Liberal Radio Host/Lawyer Perpetuates Slander That Dallas Schoolchildren Cheered News of JFK's Death

How do we know that grade-school students in Dallas spontaneously cheered the news that President John F. Kennedy was murdered in their city?

Because it's been repeated ad infinitum for almost half a century. Therefore it must be true, right?

It's a belief that's taken on the aura of holy writ to liberals, thanks to propapandists like radio host and lawyer Mike Papantonio in preserving its mythology for each new generation of true believers.

You'd think someone who practices law would know better. Then again, you might not.

Appearing on Ed Schultz's radio show Thursday, "Ring of Fire" radio program co-host Papantonio talked about President Obama's remarks at the Tucson memorial service and drew a parallel between current-day political rancor and the toxic divisions of the early 1960s --

PAPANTONIO: As I listened to him, I remembered something, though. I remembered that hate is like ink in water in the way it spreads. And I wish, you know, I know he had to be careful on the way that he dealt with this issue, but it's an important issue. And that is the way hate spreads. I think about the 1960s. You had right-wing billionaires fueling hatred against John F. Kennedy, the same way, I mean exactly, Ed, the same way they're doing it today. You had, crowd hatred doesn't just happen, it usually takes money to egg it on. And that's what we saw in the '60s with John F. Kennedy. When Secret Service, Ed, begged Kennedy not to go to Dallas, it's because they feared for his life. It wasn't because they expected a Lee Harvey Oswald-type of assassination.

As in, left-wing "type" of assassination. Decades later, liberals still shrink from the specifics --

PAPANTONIO: They were worried about the millions that billionaire H.L. Hunt and Fred Koch, you know, the nut doesn't fall far from the tree, even back then, Fred Koch had spent millions organizing hate groups, creating TV commercials and and even distributing hundreds of thousands of wanted posters. I want to send you one of these posters, I have one in front of me. It's like a post office poster for criminals. I have a copy of the poster and here's what it says, basically. And it was paid for, understand this, it was paid for by the same people who are fomenting hate in America today.

Pronounced by Papantonio as "formenting" --

PAPANTONIO: This just happens to be the daddy or the uncle or the granddaddy. You know, the Koch family, it just goes on. They were led by H.L. Hunt. They created this poster that had a mug shot of John F. Kennedy that says, I swear to God, it's a mug shot and underneath it says, 'Wanted for Treason.' And the only thing that was missing in that poster was Palin crosshairs on John F. Kennedy's head.

This obviously does not absolve Palin for her complicity in Kennedy's death, albeit long after the fact --

PAPANTONIO: The poster says that the president is wanted for treason against the United States. Now, understand, hundreds of thousands of these posters were distributed all over Dallas, all over Texas. They said he was a communist, that he subverted the Constitution, that he supported racial communist riots in America because of his civil rights stand. They said he was anti-Christian and promoted anti-Christian rulings by the Warren Court, that he was a despicable liar. Now, if you think about the history of what was happening then, you had H.L. Hunt and Fred Koch, who helped finance and organize, people don't realize this, they don't understand that Fred Koch helped organize and finance the John Birch Society, the same crowd that he had out in the streets in Texas weeks before John F. Kennedy shows up in  Dallas. They're flying Confederate flags, they're screaming that Kennedy should be shot because he loved African-Americans, only they were much more ignorant and hostile in the way they talked about African-Americans, you can imagine. As a matter of fact, when the P.A. system in public schools in Texas announced that Kennedy had been murdered, children as early as, as young as fourth graders applauded because they had been so brainwashed with hate. No doubt those are the same Fox News regulars we see today, age-wise it's about right. Like fathers, like son, the Koch brothers have simply relaunched the same murder and hate campaign that they had in the '60s.

One wonders if Lee Harvey Oswald enlisted in this "murder and hate campaign" after he returned from defecting to the Soviet Union and before he tried fleeing to Cuba. Both countries, needless to say, major bastions of right-wing hatred.

Moments later, Papantonio, who co-hosts "Ring of Fire" with Robert Kennedy Jr. and Sam Seder, elaborated on Dallas children's alleged exuberance in response to JFK's death --

PAPANTONIO: Along with everything that they had in the '60s, along with the Hunt brothers and the Koch brothers and the rallies and all of that knuckle-dragging stuff, they now today in America have 53 million Americans listening to talk radio. Ninety-one percent of that radio, Ed, is neo-nut hate talk, 2,500 hours of conservative radio talk every single day, compared to 250 hours of progressive talk.

SCHULTZ (in rare flash of rationality): So it has nothing to do with the (Tucson) shooting, you're not saying that. You're saying it has a lot to do with the mood ...

PAPANTONIO: Exactly.

SCHULTZ: ... and how we are at each others' throats in this country.

PAPANTONIO: Exactly. We've created this same thing. Can you imagine, fourth graders standing up and applauding that the president of the United States had been assassinated?

Wow, this tale's getting taller by the minute. Next he'll be telling us about conga lines in school cafeterias.

The suspicious assertion about Dallas schoolchildren originated with a specific journalist, one whose career was derailed decades later after another spurious claim, this time alleging that future president George W. Bush had dodged National Guard service -- an ambitious young CBS reporter named Dan Rather.

Then chief of the new CBS News bureau in New Orleans, Rather was in Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963 to cover the Kennedy visit. In his 1977 book "The Camera Never Blinks: Adventures of a TV Journalist," here's how he recounts the origins of the story about Dallas schoolchildren --

A wire service had moved a story earlier that the youngsters at a Dallas grade school had cheered when the news of the assassination was announced over the public address system. The story was written in such a way as to leave the impression that Dallas was so Right wing, so filled with meanness, that little children could celebrate the death of a liberal President.

Well, school kids applaud almost anything that comes through a loudspeaker: a fire drill, the lunch menu, notice of a lost library book. But this was a story that received heavy play around the country. (emphasis added) So on Tuesday morning Hughes Rudd and a CBS camera crew went to the school where the incident occurred and interviewed some of the teachers and students. Later we had an in-house council on whether to even use the piece. The discussion was private, but some of the KRLD (CBS television and radio affiliate in Dallas) staff, through Barker (Eddie Barker, KRLD news director), made clear their belief that the original story was unfair to Dallas and ought to be shelved, quickly.

Frankly, I agreed with them. To my recollection, Rudd was lukewarm and insisted, "Don't let whatever time we spent on it be a factor. As far as I'm concerned we can drop it." At any rate the piece did run. The call was close, but from our point of view the story was balanced. And fair. They are not always one and the same. But the KRLD people, to a soul, thought it was a gratuitous story that kept alive an impression of Dallas that was cheap and damaging.

The film appeared that night, Tuesday, on the CBS Evening News. Within minutes Barker flew into the newsroom and braced himself. His face was flushed. He was visibly irritated. Keep in mind that he had been working like a deckhand himself, had kept the same blinding hours, had been under the same and more complicated pressure.

He glared across the room and said, "Out. All of you. Out."

Whereupon Barker, for reasons that will momentarily become clear, ordered Rather and his crew to leave the KRLD newsroom immediately.

In an obscene omission, Rather neglected to mention that he was the reporter who brought the dubious story to a national audience, and did so on live television.

Rather's shabbiness in this episode was described in devastating detail by Philip Chalk in a March 14, 2005 article for The Weekly Standard, titled "Wrong from the Beginning: Even in 1963, Dan Rather was a poor excuse for a newsman" --

... Barker is widely credited with first reporting on air that the president was dead, having received word through a doctor acquaintance directly from the hospital ER. Rather, then based in Dallas as a reporter for CBS's national news broadcast and working out of Barker's newsroom, later took credit for the scoop, Barker says. The error is repeated in historical accounts often enough to annoy the now-retired Barker, though he says the falsehood was later acknowledged by Rather.

It was a different lie -- one delivered on national television, and at the expense of children -- that caused Rather trouble at the time. As reporters from around the world descended on the Texas city, Rather went on the air with a local Methodist minister who made a stunning claim: Children at Dallas's University Park Elementary School had cheered when told of the president's death.

The tale was perfect for the moment, reinforcing the notion among distant media elites that Dallas was a reactionary "City of Hate." It slyly played to a local audience, too: The school was in upper-income University Park, one of two adjacent municipal enclaves that shared a school district and a reputation for fiercely protected, lily-white privilege. Finally, for the ambitious Rather -- a native Texan and then a Dallas resident -- the account represented the very sort of revealing, local dirt that throngs of out-of-town competitors would have to work far harder to get.

Except that it wasn't true, and Rather knew it, Barker says.

Approached earlier by the same minister with what was a second-hand account, Barker himself had run the story by the school's principal and some teachers, all of whom denied it outright. Because of the shooting, which took place at 12:30 p.m., the principal had decided to close the school early, though without telling the students why. The children at the school -- including three of Barker's own -- were merely happy to be going home early, he was told. There couldn't have been any spontaneous cheering at the news of Kennedy's murder, because no such news had been announced.

Undaunted, the dogged minister -- "a very, very strong liberal and a very, very strong Kennedy supporter," Barker says -- moved on to Rather.

"Rather came to me, and I said, 'My kids are in school there, and I checked it out, and there's not a damn thing to it," says Barker. "He said, 'Well, great -- I'll just forget it.' But instead of forgetting it, he went out and did this gut job on Dallas and its conservatism," with the preacher's story at the center of his report.

With the discredited account likely to be challenged by the local affiliate's editors before being fed to New York, Rather sidestepped a customary film-editing session with Barker and arranged to file the report live instead, Barker says. "And so here's Dan with the preacher, telling this story about kids at UP cheering when told the president was dead."

Livid at being lied to, Barker laid into Rather as soon as he returned to the newsroom, expelling the reporter and all his national-news colleagues from the building on the spot. "I said 'Get the hell out of here -- you and this whole damn bunch!'  "he says.

Barker's local TV and radio crews scrambled to arrange on-air interviews with teachers to rebut the story, but the lie had already traveled halfway around the world and would become an enduring part of the JFK assassination lore.

At the end of The Weekly Standard article, Chalk is described as a "member of the University Park Elementary class of 1974" and the magazine's production director.

It is no exaggeration to point out that Rather's coverage of the Kennedy assassination made his career. Within weeks he had a new beat -- covering the White House for CBS News. That Rather accomplished this through character assassination has not passed unnoticed. Nor that Papantonio has joined the ranks of Rather's co-conspirators.

Oh boy. Ideological

Oh boy.

Ideological subversion.  Where have I seen this before.  Ahh, I remember now, Communist aholes.

 

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Yea but

This is a bit silly but....

During the Clinton aministration a movie starring Will Smith - "Independence Day" came out.  A movie about an ailen invation of the entire world,  In one scene the White House was destroyed by the ailens.  Reports were that the scene was cheered in theaters all over the country.  I know there were cheers in the theater I watched it in!

 

There was no cheering in my 7th grade class room, only young adolecent indiference.  My Mom loved the man, my Dad hated him (the country is being run by the pope) I was just happy to get a day off.

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I really think he and Ed are secretly having sex the way their heads go up and down in uni-since.

Thank you for exposing this liar

Even though the Left refuses to believe anything that exposes the lies they've been taught.  Facts are irrelevant things to people like Rather- it's the storyline that fits with the liberal meme that's important.  

"My faith in the Constitution is whole, it is complete, it is total. I am not going to sit here and be an idle spectator to the diminution, the subversion, the destruction of the Constitution." Barbara Jordan

Ever seen this loon outside of Special Ed?

Neither have I.

Late night public access channel?

2:00 AM on Sunday, right before the test pattern.

Facts don't matter

In both the Dallas and Tucson stories, the MSM offers a "narrative" wherein a highly-charged 'rightwing climate' incubates a mentally-troubled, non-conservative killer to shoot Democrats.

And despite the President's memorial speech, those like Special Ed will perpetuate that.

The story was never believable.

What ten year old has political beliefs...?  What ten year old would applaud someone's death ?  Especially if the person's portrait was no doubt on the wall next to the flag right in front of them every morning.   All school kids everywhere are taught to love the President no matter who he is. The truth is that the whole country was very scared when they heard the news.   They took it very personally as it was an attack on their freedom and even in Dallas there were  many people who loved JFK.    When somebody peddles this story it only shows what a left-wing twit they are.   It never happened.

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It Wasn't Believable...

..if you believe in an external reality. Leftists don't believe in that. Stories like this are primarily religious for them; they repeat them as a matter of faith to reassure them that THEY GOOD; CONSERVATIVES BAD. And because government is God, and they want more government, they are on the side of the angels.

Despite the left's stated hate of all things religious, they themselves have created a religion; liberalism has its own heroes of the faith, its own lore, its own works, and its own diety. The only problem is that liberalism as a religon is only achievable by the willfully blind. Thus, the need to "communicate" -- i.e. brainwash -- everyone into accepting it.  

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One more thing Tenebrous

...liberalism has its own heroes of the faith, its own lore, its own works, and its own diety.



Liberalism has it's own reality, too.
"I don't like repeat offenders, I like dead offenders". - Ted Nugent

ANOTHER JFK MYTH

.....That he was one of our greatest Presidents, perpetuated by the Liberals of course.

.....If his record is examined, except for his support of tax cuts, he was one of our worst Presidents ...he caused the liberation of Cuba to fail, brought us within an eyelash of a nuclear war, got us into Vietnam, etc ...He only suported Civil Rights to get blacks into the Democrat Party and he signed the executive order that allowed Federal worker to form unions ...

.....As an unfaithful husband and skirt chaser he made Clinton look like a piker. 

Charles

How can you insult Camelot? 

How can you insult Camelot?  You completely ignored the fact that cool Hollywood people started coming to DC and hanging out when the Dims were in the White House.  I've always wondered if one of the things that got Clinton in so much trouble was that he thought the press would ignore his indiscretions the same way they didn't report Kennedy's.  If not for Drudge, they might have.

 

"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last."  - Sir Winston Churchill

I was in elementary school at

I was in elementary school at the time.  I didn't fully understand the whole thing until later. When we heard the news the school day was just about over. We were getting washed up from recess and getting packed up to go home. All I had on my mine was the weiner roast and hay ride our Sunday School class was having that night. I'd get to hold Bobbie's hand through the whole thing. The teacher didn't really have time to talk about it and what it meant. My best memory is that we had Monday out of school and the funeral with all the miltary type things going on.

A well regulated militia being necessary to a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Rick

I was in 1st grade.  We had a small state college in town and the only President I knew was the one at the college.  When we got word that the President had been shot, I remember asking the teacher, "Why would someone shoot President Wilburn?"

I remember being in front ot the TV when Oswald got shot, but I didn't really think much of it.  Same with the funeral procession, it was something different to see but I had no concept of what it was about in the big scheme of things.

President Obama is a Muslim (from his own lips), Kenyan (read it from his publicist) a homosexual (read it on a news magazine cover) and a Socialist (I'm alive and can see it for myself)

On the day of JFK assassination..

.. I remember it rather well. Lived in NW Louisiana, a bastion of Southern Baptists, and attended segregated public school - 5th grade at the time. Hard to imagine that there was a liberal within earshot.  It was in the afternoon, and a number of teachers kept going out in the hallway talking privately. We could see something in their faces. I think that at first, many of us thought that something was going on w/ Cuba again.. as we'd just been thru the Cuban missile crisis - and 2nd SAC headquarters and a secret nuclear base was nearby.

When they announced the news, in this 5th grade classroom, there was dead silence. Period. However, when they then let out school shortly thereafter, the kids were kids. I think most of us boys were out chasing each other around playing, "I'm going to shoot you."

From that moment on, I remember nothing other than deep sorrow and a lot of silence. Everyone was fixed on the TV for days.

The story is pure slander.

(;~/ gary

PS. Hunt was not a $billionaire - in then current dollars, and Koch didn't even show up on the Fortune 500 Richest Americans list.

Then again, Joe Kennedy, Sr. did.

Funny you should mention the Cuban Missile Crisis

I remember that as well.  Being a mere 280 miles north of Cuber (as JFK called it), in my first grade class we'd been having daily disaster drills.  I remember looking out the wall of north-facing windows, before climbing under my desk, hands over the back of my neck.  Which of course, we all know was absurd.

On that fateful day, however, the news was broadcast over the intercom.  The teacher's face became deadly pale, in contrast to her bright red lipstick.  She looked like she was going to fall over...and said words we couldn't understand (a prayer in Latin).   Not long after the parents came to get us, but before the day was over, and our mom's would rush into the classroom and haul us away, rather than us marching out to the waiting area as usual.  It was frightening.  I do remember the TV, in the corner of the living room, and the announcement that JFK was dead.  The world seemed to move in black and white slow motion for a while.

So you were about the age of these apocryphal cheering children.  Can you even fathom such a story?  I can't.  How typical of the "blood libel media" to spread lie after lie....I'm beginning to get really attached to my new tag for this very reason.

Disaster drills:

My wife was a little kid in Catholic school in Baton Rouge at the time.

She always talks about how several days a week in the cafeteria all they served was red beans and rice, so the kids would become acclimated to the Cuber-an diet in case they invaded and took over.

Being 1,500 miles away, diet was not a concern; all I remember were the duck-n-cover movies. And of course the fallout shelter in the school's basement.

I am trying to remember if I

I am trying to remember if I was in the 5th or 6th grade. I would have started to school in '57 so I think that would put me in the 6th in 63.

A well regulated militia being necessary to a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Reaction to JFK assassination...

I was a junior in high school and of course the events of that awful day are permanently seared in my memory.  There was stunned silence when a visibly shaken substitute teacher came into our classroom and announced that Kennedy had been shot.  About a half hour later, the principal informed everyone that the President was dead.  We all were in a state of shock.  I wasn't aware of any reaction other than utter disbelief.

However, I was told there were some very isolated incidents of clapping by a handful of fifth grade students in the elementary school across the street.  JFK was viewed by many southerners as far too liberal with regard to civil rights--a view shared by the editors of the Memphis Commercial Appeal.  I recall the newspaper reporting scattered (but not widespread by any means) incidents of school children applauding Kennedy's death.  

Papantonio referred to Texas--not just Dallas.  It is highly likely his statement is technically correct.  But, again, the reaction he decribes was clearly the exception rather than the rule.

Jer

By the way, two or three years later a couple of college buddies and I would occasionally call up the mega-rich Hunt funded Let Freedom Ring to catch the latest recorded far-right paranoid fantasy.  Highly entertaining.

No, Jer

I'm as Texas as it gets, and I heard no jokes coming from any of the kids at my school that afternoon.

We went home in stunned silence, and watched TV for the whole weekend.

And, no, we weren't bemoaning the fact that Mr. Ed was preempted.

So, Cool...

you can flatly assure us that not a single Texas school child clapped?  That is very heartening.  Unfortunately it wasn't universally the case.

Jer

No, Jer

I cannot.

I guess that's what passes for a characterization of Texas' response to JFK's death.

You win on the merits of your strong logic.

;-)

Well, Cool..

 I would say it was a fair characterization in light of your unqualified--or illogically qualified--rejection of what I had first posted. 

Jer

Jer

Did I offer anything other than my own anecdotal experience?

Pretty narrow goalpost.

Cool.

Well, nothing other than headlining your comment "No, Jer".  But, I don't think we really are at odds on this, Cool.

Jer

not a single Texas school

not a single Texas school child clapped?

If you're going to move the goalpost to wondering if tiny pockets of people clapped over some tragedy, well then, tiny pockets of people surely clapped over any tragedy/death in this country, from every state.

- Shy Grooves

Fail, Shy...

I addressed the goalposts exactly where Cool planted them.

Jer

Jer

No Jer, you could have avoided posting on this thread entirely or posted to side with us that this was indeed slander on the state of Texas and the south.

Instead, you plopped in here in response to Gary Hall's post, and for one reason -- to advance the meme that the south was undoubtedly more Republican, and therefore racist, via you being told by someone that there might have been a "handful" of 5th graders clapping somewhere else.

- Shy Vinyl

"the south was undoubtedly more Republican"?

What the heck are you talking about?

Jer

Jer

Why do you share with us some vague tale of you, as a kid, hearing somewhere that there might have been a few kids clapping down the street?

Again, how is that significant in any way? Like someone else pointed out, this country is full of people with a variety of likes/dislikes and ideologies.

- Shy Vinyl

MrShy...

http://Why do you share with us some vague tale of you, as a kid, hearing somewhere that there might have been a few kids clapping down the street?

That's what you gleaned from my post?  Wow.

Jer

BTW...I think you should have taken my offer of 40 points on the Jets/Patriots game.  ;-)

wait till we get to the black ops claims

right.  JihadJerry?

CJ....

I don't quite understand the JihadJerry thing.  You'll need to elaborate.  In fact, I don't understand any part of your post.

Jer

Really Jer?

Looks like a push to me, and you should take note of Texas as well. 1960 was very blue in the south

Seek Truth, Defend Liberty

Yeah, really Boudin...

You seem to be a bit confused.  It was Shy who claimed I was trying to peddle the idea that the South was Republican at the time--although I had suggested no such thing [not even remotely] and was the reason I responded to his post with surprise.

Jer

Ah well,

Still a pretty cool map though.

Seek Truth, Defend Liberty

Now that I'll agree with, Boudin...

I'm storing that in my favorites.  Thanks.

Jer

More republican, in '63?

I believe it was a few years later all those evil, bigoted democrats became evil, bigoted republicans.

I wonder if they've ever been thanked properly for doing their part to advance the liberal meme of today.

/sarc.

"I don't like repeat offenders, I like dead offenders". - Ted Nugent

Never mind you cant

Assure us that any of the kids did. Good grief

No doubt there were commies in Texas also

Seek Truth, Defend Liberty

What part of "highly likely" do you not understand, Boudin?

And the "commies" reference is sheer brilliance.

Jer

Why even go here

To even entertain that this event is unique is just ridiculous.

2 words, Tony Snow, and those werent kids cheering
 

Seek Truth, Defend Liberty

I believe Mr. Coleman is the one who raised the issue.

And who suggested the event is unique?

Jer

I see your confused again

Jack has only pointed out libtards are still parading this unproven urban legend. It is in-fact, you who thinks it's note-worthy as an offense. Jer considering the libtards record as of late, I'd let it go.

Seek Truth, Defend Liberty

Agreed...

I think your letting it go would be an exceedingly wise decision.  Jack raised the issue.  I offered a different perspective based on my personal experience and recollection of the events.  I believe I'm entitled to do that.  For some reason you insist on continuing to beat the same horse however.

Jer

Motive-less?

If you say so,

Seek Truth, Defend Liberty

New year. Old Jer.

Whenever Jer lays down a longwinded post like this -- with the familiar self-congratulatory preface in the opening paragraph -- you can bet the house that he'll proceed to either defend something indefensible on the left or toss out an idiotic claim about the right.

- Shy Vinyl on the Way

Self-congratulatory?  Whose

Self-congratulatory?  Whose post are you reading?

Jer

Tell the one about the time

Hey Jer....Tell the one about the time when you were still in your mothers womb and you had that preminition there was going to be a bank robbery  downtown....... and how you tapped the story out in morse code on your mom's belly, twarted the crooks and saved the day.

One can never get enough of your miraculous, almost unbelievable stories. 

It hasn't been long, but I feel as though I've known you my entire life....maybe it was just someone very similar though.

Barack_Must_Go.....

Could be.  I always wondered

Could be.  I always wondered what happened to the little kid down the street who needed his mouth washed out with soap.

Jer

Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh

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I've noticed that whenever

I've noticed that whenever Jer lays one down, as you've referenced here.....it's always a two flush minimum.......and that just stinks.

Barack_Must_Go.....

Another self loathing ultra

Another self loathing ultra liberal, America hating douchebag on par with ( Bill Press, Karl Burnstein, Robert Reich ) who is too big of a narcissistic coward to put himself out of his misery.

They are nothing more than a malignant cancer on American society and the president of the United States of America ( Ass Clown ) must speak up, to ostracize them from society, or at the very least into silence 

Barack_Must_Go.....

Never Forget.

While on the flip side, Muslims, specifically Palestinians, actually did cheer and dance in the streets on 9-11 and most media/politicos won't dare say it out loud.

That an individual right exists requires that some policy positions be removed from the table of debate.

Grade school kids

This is like how one lib (who was it, can't remember) said her daughter asked her if she was going to get shot.

The libs LOVE to make kids into props, no matter what year it is.  They get away with it because there's no way to verify it at any time.

-Jon

It was the Pelosi clone

I was just a kid in grade

I was just a kid in grade school when Kennedy was murdered by, as it turns out, a left-wing communist nut.  At the time it was announced to us kids, I lived in southern California, there was  a saddness as if someone close to you had been killed.  We were released from school early that day.  It was Friday. That caused a bit of panic in my family's household because both my parents worked at the time.  A neighbor stepped in and saved the day. 

The next Monday and Tuesday there was no school.  When school finally reconvened, kids and teachers alike were still sad over the events that had been played out in minute detail on the TV in a template that we see replicated over and over today. 

So, even without actually having been there, I doubt very much that the kids just like myself would take the murder of anyone let alone a president in a cheerul way.  That we have the accounts of the principal of the school and the newsroom manager at how the story got out, makes it - what do they call it in the newsrooms - "a wrap." 

What is ironic, in this piece by Sgt Sheetz,  is it brings out the heinous means that Rather used to foist himself onto the national scene as a "newsman."  One can see, given these events, why he attempted the same antics on President Bush.  Fortunately, he didn't get a way with it.  What an a**hole.   

Jack Coleman, great report!

Was Johnny Cash a die-hard Liberal?

If Johnny Cash was a democrat, he was most probably a blue-dog democrat who would have NO connection with the current communist makeup of the modern Democratic Party. I wonder how he would feel about having one of his signature songs being bastardized by Mr. Ed?
 

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Yes. Children are born with fully formed political inclinations.

   I was six months old at the time of the assassination. When informed of the tragic death of the President. I calmly pulled the Binky out of my mouth, looked my mother right in the eye, with a deadpan look, said "Oh Wah", then popped the Binky back in my mouth and continued to suck away.

Vet, are your index fingers extra-long?

Because this right v. left thing at birth may be attributable to DNA/genetics. 

Prof. H. Bear had provided some scholarly links to that stuff.

Oops, nevermind, that was another subject.

/s

I was in first grade in


I was in first grade in Houston, Texas when Kennedy was assassinated.  I remember that the teacher said a bad thing had happened and we were honoring President Kennedy and the flag was flying at half staff.  I don't remember cheering but do remember the sadness of everyone around me.  I was a kid so the import did not affect me so much, in addition I was homeless at the time.

My wife was in the second grade in Dallas Texas and had pretty much the same experiences as I did.  Her family were staunch Democrats.  She told me that for years there was a stigma telling people she was from Dallas.  Not until the show Dallas came out did she feel it lifted.

Funny how the left says the right and FNC spews out falsehoods and misinformation.

Nuke em til they glow; then shoot em in the dark

Rather is an idiot

We were living in Fort Myers when he predicted we would be wiped off the face of the earth - what a tool!!! My son was 6 and terrified - I remember telling him {and my friends MIL} that it wasn't going to "take us out"

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The government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
Ronald Reagan

The practice of law relies on

The practice of law relies on preferred testimony when it has no fact.

Texas getting blame for Kennedy

I am so sick of this. I live in Austin, Texas and grew up here. I was in 8th grade math class. We were all getting out of school early as President Kennedy was to come to Austin and have a parade with Governor Connally and Vice President Lyndon Johnson (they were ALL Democrats...the whole state of TEXAS was DEMOCRAT. Kennedy needed Texas desperately). We were excited about seeing a president and were eager to get out of school. Then the vice principle came on the loudspeaker and said that the President and Governor had been shot. I remember like it was happening right now that Mrs Westbrook our teacher bowed her head and began to cry.

All of my classmates looked at each other in utter disbelief. We didn't understand what was happening or why. Mrs. Westbrook gathered herself and professionally tried her best to finish the class. Just before the bell rang, the vice principle came back on and said that school would be out at the next bell. We all ran home to our parents and watched...glued to the TV all weekend. I cried with my parents, brother and sister at all the mess.

These so called journalists trying to make a fuss about all of this is just horrible. They are a big reason that people have turned away from Democrats and stayed with their conservative roots. They are flat out liars and try to push their agenda forward anyway they can. Dispicable.

HP not allowing differing opinions

Have been trying all day to post only that there is the opinion that the children were only cheering due to the fact they were getting out early.  They won't allow it.  So surprising, since it is not accusatory or anything inciteful.  Good grief.  Is it because it is about the Kennedy's?  Who knows, but guess they want no discussion on the topic.  Usually they are at least open to civil discussion and disagreement......I mean what 4th graders pay attention to politics?  Much more plausible they were cheering for early dismissal.

Seems like another case of the left altering  the facts to "prove" how bad the right is....

mrskorn....HuffPo allows plenty of dissent.

No way your post as described is being rejected..  Not unless it was an abusive post.  Sometimes there is a backlog while comments are being reviewed.  There are numerous conservative/Repuplicans commenting at HuffPo and have been doing so for years--a higher per centage of contrarian posters than at any website I've visited, right or left.

Jer

Jer

I have posted numerous times something to the effect of:

The children were cheering about early dismissal, not about the assassination.

They have scrubbed it every time.  I know they post both sides if it is civil, that is why I am so surprised this won't go through.  I started with documentation of Rather changing the story and slowly edited down to the above sentence, a few times.  They let none of it go through.  That's why I wondered if it was due to it being about Kennedy.  See if you can post it.   I gave up.

RFK Jr. on JFK Assasination

This was premeditated and came soon after RFK Jr. published a piece about his uncle's death on the Huffington Post.

Kennedy attempted to blame JFK's assassination on what he said was right wing conservative hate speech going on at the time.

What Kennedy misses is that in 1963 the modern conservative movement was in its infancy and Republicans were run by moderates and even liberals. The attempt to lie about history is in the Kennedy tradition.

The fact is that the claims that JFK and RFK's assasinations were in retaliation by their using the mafia to get into power and then turned ont them once in power is the most logical and probably reason.

To blame what happened in Tucson on right wing rhetoric is malicious, ignorant demagoguing and a good reason why Kennedys are no longer in DC. People, even in Massachusetts, are fed up with the Kennedy sense of entitlement. Bobby Jr. and others are still lving off the the JFK legacy.

Dan Rather slandering

Dan Rather slandering children? I'm not really surprised at this point. Of course, him not immediately being fired from CBS for that story is also not a shock. Half a century later and that slanderous story is still being circulated.

Another part of the Fraudulent Narrative. This is more evidence of Rush's Undeniable truths of Life: Evidence refutes liberalism.

"There is no distinctly American criminal class - except Congress." - Mark Twain.

As the love fest with JFK

As the love fest with JFK began with his death it appears the same will apply to Giffords with her shooting.

 

I was 15 when JFK was shot.  I did not live in Texas or the South.  JFK was NOT well liked where I lived.  After his death the media generated a love fest for the Kennedy's that I was caught up in until I read more information about JFK in my late 20s.  That started by dislike of the media.  I learned how unethical and corrupt they really were.

 

But over and over I find myself surprised with people who almost universally believe he was shot by a right wing extremist when in fact he was shot by an avowed communist.

 

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