Thom Hartmann Derides 'Sarah bin Palin' For Not Coming 'Out of Her Cave'
Agreed, the parallels between Palin and bin Laden are uncanny. To say nothing of women appearing so frequently to speak on behalf of al Qaeda.
If liberals have a strong case against Palin, why do they say such stupid things about her? (audio) --
HARTMANN: (After music at start of segment, "Give Peace a Chance," from bellicose pacifist John Lennon): Sarah Palin. She hasn't come out of her cave up there in Alaska. Sarah bin Palin, should we call her? But she has issued a video!
What makes Hartmann's criticism on his radio show Wednesday all the more peculiar is that it came after Palin released her seven-minute video statement on liberals' unhinged reaction in according blame for the rampage in Tucson.
Regardless of what Palin did, critics like Hartmann would be churlish. If she didn't make a statement, they'd say Palin was laying low, a sure sign of guilt. If she did, her remarks would fall short. OK, Palin released the video -- why wasn't she on the "Today" show? Had Palin appeared on "Today," they'd ask why she wasn't on "60 Minutes" -- for the entire hour. Were Palin to go on "60 Minutes," they'd complain she wasn't sufficiently choked up. The demands would never end, until Palin was suitably repentant in the eyes of the MSNBC's tag team.
In describing Palin as living in a "cave up there in Alaska," it's almost as if Hartmann implied Alaska isn't part of America. You know, like Hawaii, for example.
More of Hartmann's take on Palin's remarks (audio)--
HARTMANN: But here's Sarah Palin, basically quoting Ronald Reagan saying society has no role in this.
PALIN: President Reagan said we must reject the idea that every time a law is broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions. Acts of monstrous criminality stand on their own. They begin and end with the criminals who commit them, not collectively with all the citizens of a state. Not with those who listen to talk radio. Not with maps of swing districts used by both sides of the aisle. Not with law-abiding citizens who respectfully exercise their First Amendment rights at campaign rallies. And not with those who proudly voted in the last election.
HARTMANN: So in this she's dismissing a), that the society has anything to do with this, and b), she's dismissing the notion that people using violent rhetoric, people showing up at campaign rallies with semi-automatic weapons thrown over their shoulders, that her using the language of violence, the rhetorical language of violence, had anything to do with this.
Whereas Hartmann is quite sure that it did, yet like so many other liberals he'd rather insinuate this repeatedly -- all the better to perpetuate its buzz -- than say so outright --
HARTMANN: She's dismissing that. She's saying no. This is a lone gunman. Don't look behind the curtain. There is no society, there is no larger culture. There is no societal responsibility for crime, because it's always the individual. Blame the individual. If somebody is poor, it's their fault. If somebody's homeless, it's their fault. If somebody's mentally ill or mentally retarded, it's their fault. ... And the implicit second part of that is, if somebody's born rich, they must be virtuous, they must be wonderful. This is Calvinism on steroid. But this is nothing compared to blood libel.
Palin isn't saying "there is no society," as Hartmann claims, making the common liberal error of conflating anarchy with conservatism. Palin is rejecting the inherently problematic notion that "society" is responsible for the heinous actions of a single person. As for Palin's alleged belief that "if somebody's mentally ill or mentally retarded, it's their fault," Hartmann is grasping at straws, suggesting that Palin looks at her toddler son with Down syndrome and says, it's all your fault, kid. Next we'll be hearing she's not the mother. Make that, hearing again.
Hartmann is also indignant that Palin has the gall -- the chutzpah -- to allege "blood libel" in describing the eerily uniform reaction of liberals blaming conservative discourse and campaign images for a gunman going berserk in Tucson. (Slap hand to forehead here) How could anyone miss the correlation?
Here's Hartmann weighing in on Palin's "blood libel" allegation, after describing the historical origins of the term (audio) --
HARTMANN: There's a long history to it and there's a very specific meaning. And anybody who has any knowledge of politics, which I guarantee you are the speechwriters of Sarah Palin's speech, know about this. And so here is Sarah Palin ...
PALIN: If you don't like a person's vision for the country, you're free to debate that vision. If you don't like their ideas, you're free to propose better ideas. But, especially within hours of a tragedy unfolding, journalists and pundits should not manufacture a blood libel that serves only to incite the very hatred and violence that they purport to condemn. That is reprehensible.
HARTMANN: This is the trick, this is the artifice, that conservatives have used for centuries, to turn themselves into the victims of their own behavior. Here is Sarah Palin saying that she, like Jews for a thousand years, have been the vict-, is the victim of, well, I'll just leave it at that, is the victim, and using the phrase 'blood libel.' I mean, even on the right, even Jonah Goldberg is calling her out on this, who has been on this program and debated me. Andrew Breitbart used this phrase in a tweet last night before Palin's video went, came out. It was used by Pajamas TV host Glenn Reynolds. He says, where's the decency in blood libel? What?! This was on Monday. The very first use apparently in the wake of the Tucson massacre came from a political consultant, John Henke, who used the phrase on Twitter the very same day of the shooting. This is based on a Google search.
But this, you know, talk about making your head explode. Here is Sarah Palin trying to conflate her own situation of being criticized for putting crosshairs on Gabby Giffords' district, on her, and then the congresswoman goes on TV and says, you know, I'm very uncomfortable about this, I'm concerned, this is beyond the pale, this could lead to bad consequences. And Sarah Palin is trying to conflate her being accused of this crime as being some kind of an incredible victim, as if for a thousand years, well, I mean, I don't want to get into hyperbole here, but I just, I find this astounding.
How dare Palin respond to being "accused of this crime" when anyone so inclined can see her obvious complicity. Palin is defensive, Hartmann claims, about being criticized "for putting crosshairs on Gabby Giffords' district, on her" -- just as surely as Palin put crosshairs on that caribou she shot on TV.
It's as if Palin used the word "ghetto" not while specifically referring a close-knit Jewish enclave -- which has always been its only definition, and will be in perpetuity.
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Comments
Keep it up, liberals. The
Submitted by Newsbusterbrown on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 8:47am.
Keep it up, liberals/progressives.. The more you do this, the sillier you appear.
“There are no easy answers, but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
Yes NBB
Submitted by Seashell on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 9:05am.
and the more they do this, the stronger the teaparty will become.
Bingo
Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 9:12am.
I know lots of dimwits coming out of their slumber.
They will
Submitted by jdlybrand on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 9:07am.
It's a hard wire thing. Just cannot help themselves.
"What a revoltin' development this is!"
Chester Riley
The more they spew....the
Submitted by Barack_must_go..... on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 9:17am.
The more they spew....the more they lose. I only hope they keep it up till the 2012 election rolls around.
If the past is any indication, the collective level of undeniable mental illness exhibited by the left makes the chances of this sobering reality being a distinct possibility.
Barack_Must_Go.....
Agenda
Submitted by Deskpilot on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 9:15am.
MEDIA
item #1 - Use ANY and ALL voices ,methods, and tactics, based soley on the meme of the day to discredit Sarah Palin. Provide her no quarter of defense,
Item #2 - Use ANY and ALL voices ,methods, and tactics, based soley on the meme of the day to discredit Sarah Palins suppoters. Provide them no quarter of defense,
Item #3 - We the media have worn out of ability to "Blame Bush," We must rededicate ourselves to ensuring that Sarah Palin Stays out of the spotlight for the public. It is only us who are allowed to shine a blinding light upon her.
Item #4 - Write and distribuiste the meme of the week. Get everone talking about it rather than the sustence of issues
SARAH PALIN
Item #1 - Protect and defend all that is Great about America.
Item #2 - Speak boldly and proudly about that which I believe. Speak around the filters which seek to neuter me.
Item #3 - Protect and defend MYSELF, MY FAMILY, my Alaska, and my America, by all means necessary.
Suggested counter meme:
Remind America that despite the current hands of power that want to control America, Americans are the Captain of the ship and that we merely hire a crew, and when that crew violate the Charter of the ship, they shall be REPLACED at OUR WILL.
SPHD
Submitted by Cactus Kurt on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 9:21am.
I don't want to get into hyperbole here, but Thom Hartmann needs a double-dose of Ritalin for his Sarah Palin hyperactivity disorder (SPHD).
Liberals have mental malfunctions!
Submitted by Just4thefax on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 9:57am.
Fact: Hartman shows that liberals thinking is in a lower form than many other mammals and that the true liberals did in fact come from the trogodyte clan!
I give up.......
Submitted by almostacowboy on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 12:48pm.
Who's Thom Hartman?
Who is this turd?
Submitted by Master-of-Disaster on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 2:14pm.
Never heard of him. Why is "This has nothing whatsoever to do with Sarah Palin" so hard for these retards to understand? Is this crapweasle trying to say that this is societies fault? OK Can we please go back to the days of civil commitment and removing the mentally ill to places where they can't huirt others instead of excusing their behavior (and oh by the way their horribly debilitating conditions) and placing everyone else at risk? Oh an thereby greatly diminishing the homeless population as a residual benefit. I'm good with that. I wish I had as nice a cave as Sarah by the way. I would be up there hunting and fishing with Todd in a heartbeat, as I suspect most other real Americans woudl be. Hellen Keller and stevie Wonder could see the analogy she was using with the blood libel term. If she just said libel it would not have had the effect she was going for. Ugghhh! I am so bored with these so called intellectuals. I hereby designate myself as the voice of the "blue collar common sense" crowd. The simple son of a steel worker and dress maker who worked through school (Penn State not Harvard), served in the military and works three jobs and then some to pay my mortgage and taxes and donate to my church! Oh and it's my Birthday today too:)
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!! And God
Submitted by ProudAmerican58 on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 3:29pm.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!
And God Bless you.
TY
Submitted by Master-of-Disaster on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 3:48pm.
Right back at you! :)
Sarah Bin Laden?! Only the rich are virtuous?!
Submitted by ProudAmerican58 on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 4:35pm.
Well no wonder that mentally deranged killer shot all those people.
Such incoherent drivel!
Thom Hartmann has always been a shallow liberal thinker; however, I always thought he at least conducted himself like a gentleman. It appears that even he is now feeling that the jig is up and is now resorting to the same desperate cheap shots that the rest his mentally disordered cohorts are engaging in.
Just wondering?
Submitted by mandrake on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 3:50pm.
"Can we please go back to the days of civil commitment and removing the mentally ill to places where they can't huirt others instead of excusing their behavior (and oh by the way their horribly debilitating conditions) and placing everyone else at risk?"
How old are you? Are you aware that Ronald Reagan initiatied the release of many of the mentally ill in his first term..and I use the word 'many' in a poilte sense.
http://lsmitty.wordpress.com/2010/06/17/unkind-cuts-the-stigma-of-mental-illness/
I remember -- so what?
Submitted by ProudAmerican58 on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 4:38pm.
How's that relevant to wanting to return to the days of civil commitment of the dangerously mentally ill?
It's not, rather it's a great
Submitted by Barack_must_go..... on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 4:50pm.
It's not, rather it's a great way to take a cheap shot at a past Republican president.
I'm going to guess you're 52 years old....give or take a year.
Barack_Must_Go.....
conservatives just brought rhetoric to politics
Submitted by Agnostic on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 6:42pm.
From an article on CNN illustrating just how modern day conservatives started violent rhetoric:
Negative campaigning in America was sired by two lifelong friends, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson. Back in 1776, the dynamic duo combined powers to help claim America's independence, and they had nothing but love and respect for one another. But by 1800, party politics had so distanced the pair that, for the first and last time in U.S. history, a president found himself running against his vice president.
Things got ugly fast. Jefferson's camp accused President Adams of having a "hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman."
In return, Adams' men called Vice President Jefferson "a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father."
As the slurs piled on, Adams was labeled a fool, a hypocrite, a criminal, and a tyrant, while Jefferson was branded a weakling, an atheist, a libertine, and a coward.
Even Martha Washington succumbed to the propaganda, telling a clergyman that Jefferson was "one of the most detestable of mankind."
I can't decide if this was Bush's or Palin's fault.