Ed Schultz Parrots Inane Harkin Idea of 50 New 'Preventative Clinics' -- One for Each State

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This is what passes for fairness from liberals.

On his radio show Friday, Ed Schultz demonstrated that he hasn't a clue as to how the principle actually works.

Take it away, Ed (click here for audio) --

SCHULTZ (talking to caller): What do we need? We need stories is what we need. We need people to stand up and tell their story in front of elected officials and demand some answers, as this lady has done. But what we also need, is we need to follow Tom Harkin on the Senate health bill and support that because it's got preventative clinics. We could set up, a one preventative clinic in every state in this country, 50 preventative clinics, that would do colonoscopies, that would do heart exams, that would do blood tests, all kinds of preventive stuff that could be done. That could be done!

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Bad enough for Sen. Harkin to propose this, assuming what Schultz says is accurate (agreed, a risky assumption). Compounding the inanity is the specter of Schultz, a college gridiron star way back when, grabbing this fumble and bolting toward the wrong end zone.

Under the proposal, the state with the fewest people, Wyoming, would get one clinic -- as would California, with 70 times as many residents.

Lemme guess, that single clinic would be situated in the geographic center of each state -- you know, to make it even more fair. Possible exception -- when the geographic center is in a body of water -- but only if Democrats in both chambers agree on the exception. Placing clinics in locales difficult to access might reduce costs and hey, isn't that the idea?

How does Schultz not just parrot a proposal like this but seize upon it with characteristic bluster? Because he's imbued with the same lofty sense of omniscience as one of his callers on Sept. 24, when guest host Norman Goldman sat in for Schultz.

The caller, identified as "Jim from Colorado," described an argument he got into with a conservative about the caller's niece, who he said is stricken with "cerebal" palsy (click here for audio) --

GOLDMAN:  Let's go to Jim in Colorado. Jim, you're on the Ed Schultz show.

CALLER: OK, I was going to tell Ed about this, but I'll tell you.

GOLDMAN: You can tell me.

CALLER: All right.

GOLDMAN: I'm a friend of Ed. C'mon, it's all right.

CALLER: This past weekend there was a (sic) end of summer type of event in the suburban Denver area and there was a Republican booth and I went up there and I said, oh so, you guys are the party of pro-life but yet, you know, my niece has cerebal palsy and, you know, it's $700 for one of her braces to keep one of her limbs straight or she ends up becoming, you know, eventually she'll wind up on some kind of social services because nobody's going to want to hire her.

GOLDMAN: A public burden, you betcha.

CALLER: Right. How long has she had it? (the conservative asking this of the caller).  I'm like, I said, uh sir, she was born with it, you know. And they, you know, so we kept going with it and kept going with it (again stating what conservative said to him). Well, you don't know what you're talking about. I said, sir, I go, sir, I'm a liberal. I always know what I'm talking about.

Give the man credit -- all liberals believe this but few ever state it so bluntly. Bravo!


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I've got a story for Ed. 

I've got a story for Ed.  My wonderful father passed away five years ago from liver cancer.  Although it's a fatal diagnosis, his insurance company paid for all of his treatment.  My mother is 82, not in good health, in a nursing home, and her insurance pays for that and paid for her to have a stent put in her leg to improve circulation so she wouldn't have her foot amputated.

 

Not what he wants to hear, but not every insurance story is a horror story. Sometimes it does work.

 

Here's another for him...

I had a heart attack about 4 months ago.  No insurance. 

I am one of those that chose to spend my money on my home, my used motorhome and used boat.  I bought a spendy woodstove.  Before that, other worldly goods that enhanced my life, allowed me to spend time with my Father before heart disease took him. His health insurance and the VA extended his life considerably.  That would not happen with Obamacare.

I could have had and should have had insurance but didn't.  I'm about 75 grand in the hole after discounts and such.  My burden...not yours.  I'll bear it.  I'll pay it all off cause I owe it.  No one else but me.

My stupidity or choice or whatever you choose to call it.  I could have afforded health insurance and chose not to.  I will now pay the piper.  THAT is the American way.  At least it used to be... 

islam is a lie and Truth is killing it.

schultz for brains speaketh

 

And the 3 people in his audience laugheth.

http://gjresult.com

 

What an asinine idea. This

What an asinine idea. This would work great here in Alaska. I can't understand why Beck gets 5x as many viewers as this tard.

Hell it wouldn't even work

in a tiny state like Rhode Island. If it ain't withing 50 to 100 miles a whole lotta people are not going to go there. In my liberal bastion of Maryland you can hardly get someone to go 30 miles before they start looking for a closer provider. Whereya gonna put it deepinaharta, TX?

Schultz is a douche bag. I was told by one of my more "progressive" friends that even he has stopped listening to Schultz because of his insane, inflammatory rhetoric. Good thing only conservatives are hatemongers.

Working in Miami

I'm working in Miami for a week and it took me two hours to drive thirty five miles back to the hotel after I finished my work for the day...mostly interstate 95. If they had a clinic in the panhandle, and you lived here; you'd have a dadgum heart attack or stroke by the time you got there. Is this Shultz guy really that stupid? (rhetorical question)

"What a revoltin' development this is!"

Chester Riley

One colonoscopy station per state?

How long will those lines be in Cahlee-forneea or Noo Yawk?

Schultzy needs a colonic of his own so he can flush his very own cogitating bucephalus out of his sphincter.

With only one clinic per

With only one clinic per State, what will the travel times to the clinic be like for Florida, Texas, California, Alaska, Hawaii ? 

Liberals are nuts !

 

"President Obama is learning on the job and it shows."  --Boris Epshteyn

Alaska has more MRI machines...

than all of Canada.  660,000 of us in Alaska...over 33 million in Canada.  That oughta tell ya somethin'...that Socialized medicine sucks.

islam is a lie and Truth is killing it.

Personal grammer pet peeve

Personal grammer pet peeve here:  It's PREVENTIVE, NOT PREVENTATIVE!!!!!

 

Who will lead the Republicans to victory in 2010 and 2012?  Why, Barack Obama, of course!

Personal spelling peeve

It's grammar, not grammer.

:)

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

Oh, good grief, you're

Oh, good grief, you're right!  My deepest apologies, and I will put in PREVENTIVE measures in the future to see that doesn't happen again. 

Who will lead the Republicans to victory in 2010 and 2012?  Why, Barack Obama, of course!

Hate to break it to you,

Hate to break it to you, BigB, but you're wrong about preventive vs. preventative, too--although the former is preferred.

Jer

Jer: In the dictionary,

Jer:

In the dictionary, preventative is presented only as a variant of preventive, which does not make it proper.  The word preventive is an extension of the word prevent.  In my experience, there is no such word as preventate, which would be the primary basis of preventative.

Also, in order for the usage of preventative to be valid, you would have to be able to apply it to such words as preventible, preventively and preventiveness, which you cannot.

My aunt (see other posts) rejected the word "preventative" as a tool of the ignorant.  I choose to do the same.

Who will lead the Republicans to victory in 2010 and 2012?  Why, Barack Obama, of course!

That it is presented as a

That it is presented as a variant hardly renders the term improper.  With all due respect to your aunt--and I have the greatest repect for her profession--her assessment of the usuage (as well as yours) is a little harsh. 

Jer

Jer,  If you've been

Jer,  If you've been reduced to arguing points like this, then you have been utterly and completely intellectually defeated.

I'd reflect on this if I were you.

BB, NL & Jer

Where's a Wordsmith Nerd Woodshed when you need one?

:) 

NL...

....And those who inaugurated the arguments?  To what or to whom have they been reduced?  Furthermore, why am I singled out for your criticism when I was merely responding to a topic which had been raised by someone else, as well as previously addressed by Blonde?  I'll await your reflections on that.

Jer

Because you are the Migs.

Because you are the Migs.

And you could have ignored such trivia as this just as I do, except for humor! 

That's right, NL, and

That's right, NL, and don't look now, but I'm at your 6 o'clock.  Better hit the afterburners.

Jer

Vertical scissors.no

Vertical scissors.

no burners. 

Kill you with guns as you overreach.

And don't tell me I don't have guns.  Before the Navy decided we should be mounted in the F-4, we had the F-8, the last of the Gunfighters.

NL...

I know...the Military Channel's "Great Planes" has been featuring the F-4 a couple of times a day since last Friday.  Interestingly, despite the controversy surrounding the lack of a gun on the early Phantoms, what really turned the tide in Nam--after a comparatively unimpressive kill ratio against the Mig--was the implementation of Top Gun training by the Navy.  There was a dramatic improvement afterwards.

Jer

No sh*t. Check out LT

No sh*t.

Check out LT Rich Shafer.

Senior staff positions with

Senior staff positions with Rand, J-5, and NATO in mid to late 50s and 60's, influential roles in strategic planning and policy....Chief of Staff USAF Europe 1967....Transferred to Vietnam July 1968. 

So is he to blame for Air Force strategy and policy screw-ups of that era?

Jer

Not the same Shafer.  I am

Not the same Shafer.  I am referring to a naval Aviator.

Shafer.  I can't remember how to spell his name.  All I can recall is that it isn't spelled 'Schaeffer'!  His call sign is 'Rich'.  IIRC, his real name is Richard.  He was a LT back then.

Shafer flew an engagement back in the '60's over Vietnam.  That fight used to be part of the curriculum at Fighter Weapons School.  He was flying an F-8 covering an A-4 light attack.  They were ambushed by 4 Mig-17.  Rich defeated them without loss and in spite of the failure of several of systems on his F-8.

 

NL...

Yeah, I thought there was a good chance I had locked on to the wrong guy.  Couldn't quite make the connection of General Schaefer to your comments, altthough his name came up when I googled Lt Rich Shafer.

I'm surprised to be unfamiliar with "Shafer's" F-8/Mig-17 dogfight.  I've heard 'Duke' Cunningham and Willie Driscoll recount their epic F-4/Mig battle numerous times.

Jer

In my opinion, Duke / Yank

In my opinion, Duke / Yank exposed himself unnecessarily in order to kill "Col. Tomb". This engagement could have easily gone the other way. While killing Tomb was a great morale booster to all of our airforces waging war againist North Vietnam, the elimination of the enemy ace by itself is not worth loss of a/c and loss of mission.

Cunningham was shot down directly after dispatching Tomb. He and Driscoll reported their aircraft was hit by an SA-2 SAM and Cunningham reported visual identification of the SAM. What official records there are and eyewitness accounts other than his+Driscoll's report do not report SAM activity in the area at the time. I have heard a good deal more about this, but these observations are not part of the official record. I will leave any comments about that to the witnesses.

That's very interesting, NL...

That's very interestng, NL...and, of course, I'm dying to hear the unofficial addenda, but I understand and appreciate your inclination to "leave it to others".

Jer

are you sure jer?

 

It's in the dictionary because some people, such as yourself, are much too important to understand and USE the proper pronunciation of a rather large, and growing, list of common, everyday words.

One fool used it on TV, and all other fools followed meekly into the foggy mindlessness of political correctness because it's so much easier than actually THINKING and LEARNING how to communicate in ENGLISH.

 

http://gjresult.com

 

Fools, Willis?

What "fools followed meekly", etc.?  You're not making any sense.

Jer

By the way, here's another "fool's" view of this compelling issue.

 

Kelsey Grammer?

what's he got to do with this?

Thank GOD!!!

 

I'm not alone in the quest for the return of intelligent discourse using proper ENGLISH language skills.

http://gjresult.com

 

My aunt taught 5th grade

My aunt taught 5th grade for over 30 years and was obsessive with the proper use of English.  While speaking with her, if you used improper grammar or other usages, she simply ignored you.  If she could see the way people mangle such things as "their/they're", "to/two/too" and "your/you're", she would be spinning in her grave.  So yes, that's the way I communicate simply because I know no other way. 

Who will lead the Republicans to victory in 2010 and 2012?  Why, Barack Obama, of course!

Agreed, BigB

I was just being silly with my spelling crack. 

Word usage is important, and carelessness creates confusion.  My own pet peeve is the use of "practical" rather than "practicable". 

As for the common errors you've listed above, I think it's because they all sound alike, and as we all type like mad, we hear it in our heads and just type the one that's easiest.  And of course, reliance upon spell-checkers, which don't catch these mistakes.  I can't proof read at all on a computer screen, I have to have that piece (peace!) of paper to catch these mistakes.  Even though I'm always aware of the common mistakes as I write, they still pop through.

And finally, last peeve....speach.   Oh, and loose for lose.

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

My pet peeve

The use of loose as in... I'm about to loose my mind. It's LOSE! I do however make my share of grammatical errors. I was asleep in English class that particular day. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it; dangling participle included!

"What a revoltin' development this is!"

Chester Riley

I think we need a Pet Peeve grammar forum

I didn't mean to derail this thread, LOL, but I just couldn't let that one slide, it was just too perfect.

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

LOL

 I'm a frayed knot!

"What a revoltin' development this is!"

Chester Riley

→ Frayed knot

"Sir, the men usually ride the camel over to the Oasis" 

wait...

I'm pretty sure that one starts out with "A string walks into a bar"

____________________________________________ 
The Emperor, he has no clothes

Which reminds me . .

Which reminds me . . .

Fred Thompson and Sarah Palin walked into a bar.

The bar was instantly destroyed because no ordinary building can contain that much awesome! 

 

Or have you heard that one before ?

two men walk into a bar

the third one ducked.

____________________________________________ 
The Emperor, he has no clothes

Fanous last words...

"What duck?"

"What a revoltin' development this is!"

Chester Riley

frayed knot

That's the way I heard it! (another dangling participle)

...or is it participal? Principal or principle? English is one hard language. I need a nap.

"What a revoltin' development this is!"

Chester Riley

Wow. All that above

made for some interesting reading if nothing else.  Entertaining at the very least.  It was good for me...was it good for anyone else?..not that it really matters.

Reminded me of someone or other and the word "is"...which was far more entertaining.

I make no excuses for my not good grammir, my speling or my sin tax...whatever that is.  Someone tole me mine was crummy.

islam is a lie and Truth is killing it.

Not alone

What up wit' dat'? ;-)))

"What a revoltin' development this is!"

Chester Riley

I'm a liberal. I always know what I'm talking about.

 Yup.  Pretty much what we are dealing with...

sir, I'm a liberal. I

sir, I'm a liberal. I always know what I'm talking about.

 

every day they are acting more like gods than even the despots they are. 

I heard the nit-wit far

I heard the nit-wit far leftist Harkin today regarding the vote that happened with the Senate Finance Committee on the Public Option getting KO'd....

What kills me is these two people who are supposed to be so informed about things do not seem to realize there are a lot of 'clinics' across this country that go by your income already, have been for years and years.

Anyway...getting late for me, these looney-leftist people are never satisfied...ever.

'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart

Here's a horror story for you...

Okay, call me a Sci-Fi nerd if you will, but are any of you familiar with a series known as Stargate SG-1? Humanity at war with a race of parasitic aliens masquerading as gods? Well, anyways, there was an episode where they encountered this race of people known as the Aschen, who come to them with the whole Star Trek Federation thing: A veritable Socialistic Paradise, where war is all but eliminated, medical technology is hyper-advanced, cures for every disease known to man cured, everyone working for the good of everyone else, and all operated by this council of theirs, to which each member race is allowed to send a deligate to represent them, though the main body is still made up of the Aschen...

Well, long story short, something terrible happens. They discover another group of people had accepted the same and gone from an early-20th Century industrial culture of Millions to an argrarian society of thousands and made slaves to grow their crops for their new masters... and were slowly being exterminated by the Aschen. See, they also slipped certain things into the population's medical supplies that caused, you guessed it, sterility over a gradual period of time. Took decades to shrink them so much, but the Aschen, much like the liberals have been, were a patient people in terms of taking over. But when the people rose up, what could they really do? Everything they had belonged to their new masters, and they were forced to resign themselves to servitude. There was no alternative. And they barely stopped it from happening to earth by rejecting their proposed ideas... even though the Aschen still tried to force it on them and even tried releasing a bio-weapon on Earth in retaliation.

Now that's science fiction, I'll admit... but is it really so hard to grasp? These same leaders in Congress are the ones talking of global initiatives to stop overpopulation, to stop global warming... heck, Planned Parenthood itself could finally realize it's genocidal dream if this goes through. I mean, face it: unless you're rich enough to afford the insurance after the price hike, everything you get for medical comes from them. I know it's a scary thought, but... it's not so far-fetched as people think.

 There, I said it. Now feel free to pick on me. :D

"In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."

-John Adams

not far-fetched at all

One of Obeyme's Czars wants to put sterility drugs in our water supply.  Holdren I think it was.

Scary thing, he's dead serious about it too.  Some of the other Czars have just as scary ideas in other areas.

-Jon

How about...

His 'Climate Czar' discussed the release of particulate matter into the atmosphere in order to interfere with the emission of UV rays from the sun, and therefore decrease the rate of rising temps. Talk about playing God!

"What a revoltin' development this is!"

Chester Riley

not a stretch

in the denial of a God, presuming yourself as one can't be far.  I like SciFi quite a bit - but I like mine to stay on the television.

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The Emperor, he has no clothes

Isn't it amazing

Some of the very people that espouse complex conspiracy theories are the very same people that deny the existence of God? Witnessing my daughter's birth was proof enough for me! That was not the result of a random series of events. She turns twenty tomorrow!

"What a revoltin' development this is!"

Chester Riley

"So, I'm like a Liberal,

"So, I'm like a Liberal, you know, and so, like, I'm really, really, really, smart, you know, and like, I've taken a class and everything.  So I said Duuude, like how can you be like, you know, pro life, and not want my neice to be treated?"   

Hey doofus, you mean to say that nobody in the whole United States has ever gotten a leg brace before?   And no one can possibly ever get a leg brace unless the freaking government takes over healthcare???    Good grief.   Does Shultz have a son?

When asked if he went to war with Iraq  to derail the impeachment vote:  “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).

wait just a second....

How would 50 clinics even make a dent in a population of 300 million plus? And if a person is too poor to visit a regular doctor, what, they're going to drive from Amarillo to Dallas?  That's about the dumbest idea I've heard.

 

Wow The govment could do

Wow

The govment could do that?

Lets see 300 million divided by fifty.....

A clinic that serves 6 million on average.  I wonder how long the wait would be?

 

15 minutes.

15 minutes.

Now serving

Now serving number 102,498.

"What a revoltin' development this is!"

Chester Riley

I thought there were 57 states?

"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"

 

Three more were added in

Three more were added in April. It's up to 60 states now.

No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.

Concussions

Sen. Harkins got a concussion flying sorties over Vietnam and Schultz got his playing football in his HOF career.

There!

Now let's get down to scheduling those uniclinics in each state.  I'm not so concerned about the 300 mile travel distances (got a good used bicycle and one good leg) as I am about the costly overnight stays (any good bridges around the area to stay under?) as I await my 15-second appointment with the government doctor from Sri Lanka or Cuba.

This idea, that idea, the

This idea, that idea, the other idea.....blah, blah, blah...

None of it can possibly work when it is controlled and directed by a central authority. Only a bottom-up, market-based system of anything can work.

Statism only works for those who control the state.

If liberals always know

If liberals always know what they are talking about, why do they have to change their positions so frequently? Didn't they know what they were talking about before they changed them? 

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Ed needs more viewers/listeners...

....the more people see and hear him, the more obvious it becomes that he is a total buffoon...

Ed Schultz-Free?

I would like to see an Ed Schultz-free month at NB. More people read these articles about him on NB than listen to him on the radio.

What a Maroon

This guy must have no concept of how big real states are. Anybody who thinks I'm driving half way across Texas to get a camera shoved up my butt needs psychiatric help.

Who told you

That the Texas clinic would be in central Texas?

They lied.

The clinic for East Texas will be located in El Paso.

Specifically 38 feet North of the border crossing so it will be more convenient for our newer voters, and English will be the third language in order of patient preference.

 

http://gjresult.com

 

Good one

This idea of one per state preventive care clinic is some moonbat's pipe dream.

In Costa Rica, a small country of about 4 million people, so small you can drive it from one end to another in one day (I know, I did it a two weeks ago) on narrow, and often mountainous 2 lane roads, there is ONE big hospital in San Jose.  This is where everyone in CR who is covered by the government system, CAHA, goes.  Of course, those in the upper classes, as well as the ex-pats, can purchase private coverage, very reasonably, so they don't use this facility.

I'd suggest we plop the nutjob down in San Jose at the CAHA hospital, and let him wait in the around-the-block line to get a hang-nail fixed.  That ought to bring the reality of this idiotic notion home in a hurry.

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

Too funny

I humbly request a spew alert next time! Now I have to clean my screen.

"What a revoltin' development this is!"

Chester Riley

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Very pithy, NL!

:)

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

And to the point (.)

"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"

 

+2

 

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

pet peeves

First: It's couldn't care less, NOT could care less. (If you think about it, could care less has the opposite meaning of what you want.)

Distant second - appostraphe use in simple plural nouns

Related: As a teacher, I've tried repeatedly to explain that by saying "I don't have NO paper," what you're really saying is you do have SOME paper -- it sinks in for one or two each year (but that's in sped.)

 

→ ozarkian

I'd add "apostraphe" instead of "apostrophe".

But my favorite, because it's impossible to explain to even the more educated is the improper use of the adverb "hopefully" instead of "I am hopeful that". 

 

Well, hopefully, that will

Well, hopefully, that will now change as a result of your splendid efforts.

Jer

double negatives

Ain't got no...

 

I remember my ninth grade algebra teacher saying, "I could care less" all the time. I sat there thinking, "How could you possibly give less of a crap than you already do?". I never did like that guy. Also a good thing he didn't teach english.

 

"What a revoltin' development this is!"

Chester Riley