Maddow and Guest Indignant That Bush Dares Not Speak Glowingly of Dear Leader

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This must be what it's like to listen to pundits in a country with state-run media.

Former president George W. Bush offers what barely passes as criticism of his successor and Obama's media apologists rush to his defense, as if to stanch a wound.

Here's Rachel Maddow and Dallas Morning News political reporter Wayne Slater on Maddow's MSNBC show June 18. In the first portion transcribed below, Maddow teases her discussion with Slater coming later in the show --

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MADDOW: Back in March,  George W. Bush graciously said that President Obama "deserved his silence," that he wouldn't criticize President Obama because he didn't like it when former presidents criticized him while he was in office. It was very classy. Also, it's over. It was very over very quickly.  Gabby McYapperton last night slammed Obama about Guantanamo, about health care, he kind of implied he thought he was a commie (sigh). That's all coming up.

Yes --  Gabby McYapperton. Your guess is as good as mine. Onto the segment with Maddow and Slater --

MADDOW: Back in March, former president George W. Bush said of President Obama, "he deserves my silence." It was sort of that nanosecond or series of nanoseconds of feeling, you know what, good for him. He was the worst president ever but at least he's a mensch now. Remember that feeling? You can forget it. Mr. Bush gave a speech last night to the Manufacturers (sic) & Business Association in Erie, Pa. Try as he clearly has been, he could not resist going after the current president. The Washington Times reports that during the period of prepared questions, Bush was asked if he finds Obama's policies to be socialist. Mr. Bush reportedly started to answer and then stopped. He's quoted as saying, "I hear a lot of those words but it depends on ... we'll see."

That sort of makes the other line that he is reported to have uttered last night, "I told you I'm not going to criticize my successor," feel slightly less gracious than it felt out of context. On closing Guantanamo, the former president said, "I'll just tell you that there are people at Gitmo that will kill American people at a drop of a hat and I don't believe that persuasion isn't going to work. Therapy isn't going to cause terrorists to change their mind."

This is probably an awkward time to bring up the fact that it was Mr. Bush who actually did send Guantanamo prisoners to a Saudi jihadi therapy program called the Prince Mohammed bin Naif Center for Care and Counseling.  Not kidding.

Joining us now is Wayne Slater, he's the senior political reporter at the Dallas Morning News. Mr. Slater, thanks as always for joining us.

SLATER:  Great to be with you, Rachel.

MADDOW: What happened to gracious-in-exile George W. Bush?

SLATER: Hey, five months, five months here or there, you know. Look, this is about the legacy. This is about redeeming the message and who his candidacy was, what his presidency was all about. This is what this is all about. And he's finding it, I think, difficult now that he has several hours alone or with the former first lady in North Dallas to think about this.

Immediately after Reagan left office, you had a thousand people who were burnishing the Reagan legacy before the first brick was laid on the Reagan Library. And I think George Bush looks around and he's got three horses of the apocalypse -- Rove, Cheney and Rush Limbaugh -- and Limbaugh really isn't, it doesn't really look like his heart is in burnishing the Bush legacy. So I think he's decided it's time to get out there and begin talking about his administration.
MADDOW: Well, in all the time that you have reported on him, based on what you know of his career, of his personality, what you know about how he's spending his time now, if he didn't feel that necessity to burnish his legacy, do you think that he would otherwise want to wade back into these political fights? It seems like when president, when Vice President Cheney is doing it, you get the sense that he has a real relish to be back into it. He doesn't quite know how to be out of public life.

SLATER: I think you're right. My instinct, and I've known George Bush for 15 years, my instinct is that he really would not like to do this. I think he would not like to criticize Barack Obama. I think he sees some value in the same thing that you said in the uptake on this, that he was a mensch there for briefly by not wanting to attack his predecessor. But at the same time, I think there is a sense in his heart, in his mind, right now, I need to do something and begin actively working. Because my legacy doesn't look very good right now and we only have a few people talking about it, I need to talk about it. And because the Barack Obama administration is so diametrically opposed on these key issues, so starkly different that anything Bush says to defend his own legacy is implicitly and directly a criticism of the president.

MADDOW: We all know, and I think that George W. Bush seems to be self-aware about the fact that he's not great off the cuff when he's making stuff up on his feet. It sometimes comes out wrong. Even just reading the quotes from this speech last night, it's hard for me to read them without sounding like I'm making fun of them because he's obviously speaking extemperaneously and sometimes, stuff comes out wrong when it's George W. Bush.

Hey, give the man credit. At least Bush knows the difference between "successor" and "predecessor," a distinction lost on Slater.

Notice how Maddow led into the discussion, teasing it earlier by claiming Bush "slammed" Obama on Guantanamo, health care and "kind of implied he thought he was a commie." As in, sorta maybe, to borrow from Maddow parlance.

Then just before her discussion with Slater (aka, "preceding" it), Maddow regurgitated what Bush said, as reported by the Washington Times --

Bush was asked if he finds Obama's policies to be socialist. Mr. Bush reportedly started to answer, then stopped. He's quoted as saying, "I hear a lot of those words but it depends on ... we'll see."

... On closing Guantanamo, the former president said, "I'll just tell you that there are people at Gitmo that will kill American people at a drop of a hat and I don't believe that persuasion isn't going to work. Therapy isn't going to cause terrorists to change their mind.

This constitutes Obama being "slammed"? Imagine how nasty it would have been had Bush "lambasted" Obama. You've worked with liberals this thin-skinned too, haven't you? At least their widdle cars don't take up as much space in the parking lot. 

Most entertaining part of the segment? This assertion from Slater -- 

Immediately after Reagan left office, you had a thousand people who were burnishing the Reagan legacy before the first brick was laid on the Reagan Library.

Yes, and the burnishing began with a thousand people dancing on the Berlin Wall. As legacies go, one could do worse.


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Wayne Slater is...

an arrogant ass...He and President Bush go way back...Slater has covered Bush since he was governor in Texas, and has made it clear through his writings (and TV appearances), that he can't stand Bush. Slater found a political soul mate in Maddow...These two are ideologically perfect for each other... 

"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan

After eight years

Eight years of relentless ridicule and attack. They called Bush a murderer, treasonous, moron, and everything else. And yet the slightest criticism drives them into hysteria.

Sensitive, aren't they?

15 million unemployed

He promised to save jobs and grow the economy.  Looks like he fooled enough people to get elected.

seven...He sure did...

A new poll out says that Obama's approval numbers with Independents (45%) have fallen 15pts. in a matter of weeks, and the top 3 reasons they gave were: Concerns over Obama running up the deficit, Worries over what Obama will do to medical insurance, and (this one just killed me...) Obama's turned out to be much more liberal than they thought he was...That last one made me laugh out loud...Weren't any of these people paying any attention during the campaign? Didn't any of them know anything about the way he voted in the Senate and when he was in the Illinois state legislature? I'm glad that some of these misguided people are finally waking up, but it's a little late now... 

"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan

THIS particular independent

THIS particular independent who DIDN'T vote for Obama knew him for the political stooge and buffoon he is.  What this neophyte politician doesn't understand is that it was the independent crowd that got him elected by a very slim majority over the oldest candidate ever whose campaign was in disarray and beset with internal strife and was outspent 7 to 1. 

His mandate was small even given his extraordinary advantages and he's WAY overplaying his hand.  All Republicans have to do is field a DECENT candidate in 2012 and Obama is toast by about the same percentage he won by.

Nonsense

I've read the article a couple times and I don't see what President George W. Bush said about the Bamster that is in any way derogatory or different from what he said last week. Maybe Maddow was just desperate for material, or she had one of those recurring fits of BDS that requires an on-air rant to exorcise. There's nothing there. Hope she feels better.

Thats all MSLSD has these

Thats all MSLSD has these days...OMG, Bush is in the news, he said something! Time to attack.

MY theory about all of this is...

is that if Bush hadn't have said anything, they would have made SOMETHING up, just to deflect attention AWAY from Ozbama and his plans to destroy America from within.  

I remember my father, who is a democrat, talking to his brother, my uncle, who's a republican, on the phone saying during the election campaign, that he's afraid Ozbama is going to win the election.  Since my father looked BEYOND Ozbama's words and instead looked at his work and voting history, said that since the socialist and communists COULDN'T conquer or destroy the USA from without, they HAD to do it from within.  

Well, now that Ozbama and the liberals/progressives in congress are now in charge of the government, this is becoming PAINFULLY CLEAR.  During the 1940's and '50's a LOT of people CONDEMNED McCarthy and his "McCarthyism" about socialist and communist "witch hunts".  Now HISTORY has PROVEN McCarthy was absolutely CORRECT about the socialist/communist infiltration of America.  OZBAMA to this date is the EPITOME of McCarthy's fears and realizations. 

So to those who condemn Bush, saying that he's the worst president ever, should take a look at the VERY recent history and see what Ozbama is doing.  But WILL they do that?  HIGHLY unlikely.

MY theory about all of this is...

is that if Bush hadn't have said anything, they would have made SOMETHING up, just to deflect attention AWAY from Ozbama and his plans to destroy America from within.  

I remember my father, who is a democrat, talking to his brother, my uncle, who's a republican, on the phone saying during the election campaign, that he's afraid Ozbama is going to win the election.  Since my father looked BEYOND Ozbama's words and instead looked at his work and voting history, said that since the socialist and communists COULDN'T conquer or destroy the USA from without, they HAD to do it from within.  

Well, now that Ozbama and the liberals/progressives in congress are now in charge of the government, this is becoming PAINFULLY CLEAR.  During the 1940's and '50's a LOT of people CONDEMNED McCarthy and his "McCarthyism" about socialist and communist "witch hunts".  Now HISTORY has PROVEN McCarthy was absolutely CORRECT about the socialist/communist infiltration of America.  OZBAMA to this date is the EPITOME of McCarthy's fears and realizations. 

So to those who condemn Bush, saying that he's the worst president ever, should take a look at the VERY recent history and see what Ozbama is doing.  But WILL they do that?  HIGHLY unlikely.

Sorry.

Sorry about the double post everyone. :o(

you didn't get the memo???

"This must be what its like?"

Did you not get the memo? Our main stream media is officially now State Run Media. Their job is to ensure the success of Comrade Glorious Supreme Leader for Life Obama's agenda. If they don't, the Truth Squad takes action! Get with it man.

Bush's damnation by Madcow

T.R. Huggins    Not by opinion, but by REAL standards, I would personally accept statements aired by this media entity against anyone as a plus for one's integrity . Remember "opinions are as numerous as rectums, and as such all generally smell."

I don't know the origin of this adage, but it surely fits in today's version of perceived idiocy.

jessieH     If Bush can

jessieH     If Bush can see the stupidity of obama, then anyone with a brain can too. That says a lot about Maddow & Slater, doesn't it?

"My instinct, and I've

"My instinct, and I've known George Bush for 15 years, my instinct is that he really would not like to do this."

 

I think Slater is correct at least about this. Not knowing GWB personally, but at least he seems to be a decent man. He is kind of reluctant to criticize the O, but I think he needs to do so with all his guns a blazing. Was he perfect? No, but you know he did some things right and quite frankly its time to say so. A good man who proves he can rise above the crap thrown at him.

President Bush vs. Barry Obama

History will prove that President Bush did a wonderful job. Above all, he protected the America he loves. It's all about character and decency. Barry Obama is not a person of good character. He's a charlatan, indocrinated in radical left idology. His knowledge and understanding of America in all aspects is flawed and his love for the nation is certainly not obvious. His words and actions are anithetical to the American ideals so many millions have known. Just go to almost any American university to see that it is replete with the Obama type -- immature,ignorant,closed-minded, intolerant, arrogant, not too bright academic "elites" who couldn't run a candy store, much less a nation. But they are dangerous due to their socialist ideology and their influence on the young and the ignorant. Any American who trusts this Barry Obama fellow does so at his/her own peril.

 

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

ivseenitall

Too late, they mustered enough votes to put this Socialist in office. The government is now looking like a copy of the Third World dictatorships such as Venezuela. Just wait until the failing news organizations are taken over in the name of saving them and we'll see All Barack News all of the time!

Dear Leader

You have the spelling and pronunciation wrong, it's not "Dear Leader" it's "Der Furher".  YMaddow and the other usefull idiots just haven't realized it yet...