Rachel Maddow Condemns Alleged Revisionism on Iraq, Engages in Actual Version Herself

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Rachel Maddow is on a mission -- to stop what she perceives as egregious revisionism when it comes to the war in Iraq. And if Maddow has to engage in the real thing to indulge her outrage, all while airbrushing away the ominous decade between the Persian Gulf war and 9/11, so be it.

The media's fave lefty mouthpiece of the moment has been in high dudgeon, her indignation initiated by Stephen Hayes of The Weekly Standard describing the so-called "Bush Legacy Project."

On her MSNBC show Dec. 3, Maddow showed a clip of Bush's interview with Charles Gibson of ABC News where Bush said "the biggest regret of all the presidency has to have been the intelligence failure in Iraq." Many people "put their reputations on the line" that Saddam Hussein's suspected possession of WMD justified an invasion, Bush said, and "it wasn't just people in my administration." This is "not a do-over," Bush added, but "I wish the intelligence had been different, I guess."

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Maddow then quotes Rove from a Rosenkranz Foundation debate the night before when Rove said that "absent the [weapons of mass destruction], I suspect the administration's course would have been to work to find more creative ways to constrain [Saddam Hussein] ... I don't think there would have been an invasion."

Here's where Maddow engages in her own brand of revisionism, distorting Rove's remarks and conflating them with Bush's --

OK, Bush Legacy Project, meet the Internets. You see, the problem with trying to rewrite history in the 21st century is that history has a way of finding its way onto the Google machine. Remember what Rove just said? Absent weapons of mass destruction, there wouldn't have been a war. Well, through the magic of the Internets and the Google and the fact that interviews with presidents tend to be preserved on tape, here's President Bush in an interview with Brit Hume in December 2005. He says this, quote, I made the right decision. Knowing what I know today, I would still have made that decision. Then Brit Hume says, so, if the weapons had been out of the equation because the intelligence did not conclude that he had them, it was still the right call? Bush's response -- absolutely.

The spinning is happening right now and history is being rewritten before our eyes. The man heading up the Bush Legacy Project says Bush would have never started the Iraq war if only he'd known. Well, Bush is on tape saying no matter what he knew and when he could have known it, he still would have started that war. They are trying to rewrite history, they're trying to do it right now. We are supposed to not let them. As of today -- history, one; Bush Legacy Project, zero. Let's try to keep that streak going.

A friend of mine describes Maddow as "slippery" and her remarks here are an example. Notice how Rove's comment that, absent WMD in Iraq, "I don't think" the US would have invaded is contorted by Maddow into "never" would have invaded. Maddow takes an opinion offered by Rove -- "I don't think" -- and props it up as an emphatic, unequivocal assertion.

While Bush, Rove, et al., engage in alleged rewriting of history, Maddow's doing her darndest to whitewash it. What Bush told Brit Hume in 2005 and Charles Gibson last week is no different than what Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry said during the 2004 campaign, as reported by The Associated Press on Aug. 10, 2004 --

Last Friday, Bush challenged Kerry to answer yes-or-no to the question of whether he would have supported the invasion of Iraq "knowing what we know now" about the failure to find weapons of mass destruction.

"I have given my answer. We did the right thing and the world is better off for it," the president said.

In response, Kerry said, "Yes, I would have voted for the authority. I believe it was the right authority for a president to have."

By Maddow's illogic, Kerry rewrote history four years ago. But her fans needn't worry. Maddow will never trouble them with this inconvenient fact.

Maddow harped away along the same lines on her Air America Radio show Friday, saying this in reference to Bush's speech that day to the Saban Forum (click here for audio) --

He said the decision to remove Saddam from power cannot be viewed in isolation from 9/11. He said this today. Bush said in a world where terrorists armed with box cutters have just killed nearly 3,000 people, America had to decide whether we could tolerate a sworn enemy that acted belligerently, that supported terror and that intelligence agencies around the world believed had weapons of mass destruction. He said it was clear to me, to members of both political parties and to many leaders around the world that after 9/11, this was a risk we could not afford to take.

Hey, in other words, this war wasn't my idea. It was the other countries around the world who didn't want to start a war, they all pushed me into it, they all believed the weapons of mass destruction thing and those Democrats, the Democrats, two-thirds of whom in the House voted against the war, they pushed me into it! I was just one among the international global consensus that believed that the war in Iraq had to happen because of 9/11, not that Iraq perpetrated 9/11 but they all but did, we all knew that. This is just incredible to me.

Maddow disparages Bush's undeniable assertion that he was not alone in believing Saddam possessed WMD -- we know that Iraqi generals believed it as well -- while giving a wide berth to Bush's remarks about how the threat from Iraq could no longer be tolerated after Sept. 11, 2001.

What is actually "incredible" is how any intelligent observer can deny the obvious connection between 9/11 and Iraq -- even in the absence of evidence that Saddam drove Mohammed Atta to Logan Airport. Put another way, al Qaeda did not conspire with Iraq on 9/11, at least not that we are aware -- al Qaeda attacked America in large part because of Iraq.

How do we know this? Because bin Laden told us so when he appeared on Al Jazeera Oct. 7, 2001, the same day the US began bombing al Qaeda and Taliban targets in Afghanistan. Mass murderers are hardly considered paragons of truth, but occasionally they do not lie, such as when boasting of plans for a Thousand Year Reich, their virulent hatred of Jews or the motivation for slaughtering innocent people with hijacked aircraft.  

Here's what bin Laden said, as reported Oct. 8, 2001 in The New York Times --

...What America is tasting now is only a copy of what we have tasted. Our Islamic nation has been tasting the same for more than 80 years, of humiliation and disgrace, its sons killed and their blood spilled, its sanctities desecrated ... A million innocent children are dying at this time as we speak, killed in Iraq without any guilt. We hear no denunciation, we hear no edict from the hereditary rulers. In these days, Israeli tanks rampage across Palestine, in Ramallah, Rafah and Beit Jala and many other parts of the land of Islam, and we do not hear anyone raising his voice or reacting ... Every Muslim must rise to defend his religion. The wind of faith is blowing and the wind of change is blowing to remove the evil from the Peninsula of Muhammad, peace be upon him.

As to America, I say to it and its people a few words: I swear to God that America will not live in peace before peace reigns in Palestine, and before all the army of infidels depart the land of Muhammad, peace be upon him.

That "army of infidels" in "the land of Muhammad"? The US military in Saudi Arabia, there to defend the kingdom from Saddam and to ensure the flow of Middle East oil to a global economy. The Iraqi children bin Laden grieved for? Victims of Saddam's preference for opulent palaces over food and medicine for his own people while he defied UN resolutions to disarm for more than a decade after the Persian Gulf war.

What's "incredible" is how people like Maddow would have responded to 9/11, not by eventually racheting up pressure on Iraq to the point of war -- but by maintaining a status quo that led directly to 9/11. By keeping American soldiers in the land of Muhammad, thereby enabling al Qaeda's greatest recruiting tool. By continuing UN sanctions -- not US sanctions -- against Iraq, measures condemned by the Left before 9/11 as responsible for killing countless Iraqis. Through the oil-for-food program that allowed Saddam to bribe government officials in France, Germany and Russia while he whittled away at sanctions.

What is also "incredible" is how observers like Maddow are boundless in their wrath  toward Bush, yet hardly ever summon any toward those deserving of it, such as Saddam.

Why is that? For the same reason liberals shrugged off Stalin's "excesses," blamed America for the Cold War and deny overwhelming evidence that archetypal leftist Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK. They know a soulmate when they see one.


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She is so far out there she

She is so far out there she doesn't deserve the time it takes to comment.

 

"Forget change, I want improvement!"

And Maddow's assertion that

And Maddow's assertion that Rove said there never would have been an invasion will be repeated by others on other shows ad nauseam, and soon will be the "conventional wisdom."

Even Karl Rove said there is no way Bush would have invaded with the WMD....

Of Course, She's Mad

The following can be applied to anything Rachel Maddow, or any other lefty in America, says:

When you're a Marxist living in a capitalist country, you're going to be frustrated and angry and will, by Das Kapital and The Communist Manifesto fiat, say and do anything (tell lies and more lies) you can to discredit the current way of life. This goes for Bush and the Iraq war, of course, and every other subject which Marxists choose to apply it.

NB and other sources (talk radio, etc.) have put the hurt on Maddow and her ilk. The left will forfeit power again when they misstep and show their true intent to the electorate.

 

Boy-like creature is arrogant

I couldn't get passed the first minute of that arrogant boy-like creature taking delight in bashing our president once again.

If Bush didn't invade Iraq, the UN would be up to:

resolution # 357 - "Saddam, you are reeeeeeallly pissing us off! Allow the inspectors in and stop shooting at the US jets in the no-fly zone or we're going to issue UN resolution #358! Take THAT!"

Besides, Maddow forgot to mention that British intelligence and Israeli intelligence said Saddam had WMD.

Get over it already, whatever you are.

Not to mention

That Maddow and all of her msm buddies would be telling us what a failure Bush is because he hasent done any thing about it.

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

exactly

If we never took out Saddam, the lefties and the MSM would be smugly pointing out how "Bush failed to do anything about Iraq and now they're a bigger threat than ever"

 If we took out Iran instead, they'd bitch about Iraq. And vice-versa.

Has anyone been to Syria?

I don't believe we had bad intelligence. When a country takes pictures, captures signals, and points out everything to the public months in advance at the UN, the dictator takes notice and moves his "stuff" to Syria. Right? Then Syria ships it to Russia. And then the Left says "See, no WMD" while they stick their head in the sand.

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If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a Soldier. - My barber

Madcow

Who is that guy?

Google.....are you kidding me

Ok, Google is a great repository of historical fact? RIGHT

"They never open their mouths without subtracting from the sum of human knowledge"

-Thomas Brackett Reed

 

You Might Be A Liberal

You might be a liberal when you find yourself tuning in get your political and world news from a bitter butch dike!

Winston Churchill ~ "Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy."

Ask her how she feels about

Ask her how she feels about Saddam hanging at the end of a rope.

struggler.... Speaking of

struggler....

Speaking of that...here's his kitty.

Couldn't help myself....

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Very funny, Bigtimer

Now that's my kind of humor!

 

I once worked at a fire hydrant factory. You couldn't park anywhere near the place. - - Steven Wright

ha ha. macabre, and catty,

ha ha. macabre, and catty, but funny!

If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And treat those two imposters just the same...
Yours is the earth and all that's in it...

News flash: "Another ...

News flash: "Another arm-chair quarterback looking for work!"

Maddow (Please don't call this person MadCow. He's a radio jock out of Chicago who appeared on Fox. He's a pretty cool guy.) {Sorry, The guy's name is ManCow. You can call Maddow whatever you want. SD 12/10/08} is another one of these folks who doesn't know the Intel World. These people can second guess all they want, but when you are dealing with closed societies like Iraq, Iran, Syria, etc. most of the intel you gather is generally not first hand from inside the country. To get this type you have to have people on the inside and they would do so at great risk.

I don't care how good your sat cameras are, a good sandstorm or heavy cloud cover will render them pretty much useless. Oh, and IR well, consider the area you are shooting. I had to redo a target package once because of hot rocks. The same goes for electronic intercepts. The word here is atmospherics. And if you want to tap a land-line you got to have people on the ground.

Did the US and other intel agencies have that? Most likely. Were that at the right place, at the right time? Probably not. Were our intel agencies hoodwinked? You bet. Could it happen again? Yep and most likely will.

The world is in for a rude awakening. IMO, I think the world, not only the US, will suffer a multiple nuclear strike within the next 3 to 5 years. Again, that's just my opinion.

Remember folks, Freedom isn't Free. It has been bought with the blood and sacrifice of the men and women who are serving and who have served in the U.S. Armed Forces.

For those who fought for it, Freedom has a flavor the protected willl never know.

bigtimer

Hey, no fair! You posted the kitty and made me LOL and wake up my hubby! I usually don't even laugh at stuff like that, but for some reason that cracked me up!

Sadam's Cat...Meow!

tbdi...

Meow!

Don't worry, I felt the same way when I first saw it, and I have had this for over two years, just didn't know how to get the link to it at the time...

Yeah, sometimes in life some things hit ya just the right way...and this did it for me too.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Bin Laden's "messages with no words"

Bin Laden in his 1997 interview with CNN actually said that al Qaeda would send Bill Clinton "messages with no words" in response to Clinton's policies vis-a-vis Iraq. CNN has removed this interview, perhaps the most important one that bin Laden's has done with a Western media outlet, from it's web site. The original URL for the CNN interview is www.cnn.com/CNN/Prog.... The complete transcript is available at http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/binladen/binladenintvw-cnn.pdf

See the last page for the "messages with no words" comment. Those messages were sent during the summer of 1998 when al Qaeda bombed two U.S. embassies in Africa (i.e., American soil), the USS Cole in 2000, and 9/11.

Bin Laden in 1997 seemed to be referring to Madeleine Albright's 1995 appearance on "60 Minutes."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaWiMDGA8wg&feature=channel_page

Clearly, 9/11 had almost everything to do with Iraq.

I have a web site at www.sinsofthehusband.com that deals with the actual record of the Clinton administration, terrorism, and Iraq. The mainstream media could find this information just as easily as I did, but, apparently, they were much more interested in bashing Bush.