Washington Post Writer 'Cringes' at Sight of 'Vulgar' Americans Celebrating Bin Laden's Death
For the Washington Post's Petula Dvorak the sight of American college kids celebrating the death of Osama Bin Laden outside of the White House gates, on Sunday night, was "almost vulgar." In a May 2 story Dvorak described the scenes of joy as "one part Mardi Gras and two parts Bon Jovi concert" but then went on to say "It felt a little crazy, a bit much. Almost vulgar" and admitted: "my first reaction was a cringe."
Dvorak, then doubled-down on her hand-wringing, saying the U.S. students reminded her of "those al Qaeda-guys dancing on Sept. 11th," before pondering: "Are we simply creating star-spangled recruitment tapes for a new generation of terrorists killing in the name of their new martyr?"
Dvorak even proudly tweeted her article saying the "Giddiness over bloody military op might leave some queasy."
The following excerpts from the article headlined: "Complications After A Night of Jubliation" were published in the May 2 online edition of the Washington Post:
A generation of young Americans slammed the door Monday on the great, big boogeyman of their childhoods with an epic woot-woot and rounds and rounds of "U.S.A.!"
At the news of Osama bin Laden’s death, thousands of people - most of them college-aged and in requisite flip-floppy collegiate gear — whipped up a raucous celebration right outside the White House gates that was one part Mardi Gras and two parts Bon Jovi concert.
There were cigars, a few beers, a lacrosse stick turned flagpole waved by a kid who just climbed a statue, joining others aloft in trees and atop lamp posts. Well past midnight, cars zipped up and down the streets of downtown Washington with women standing up through sunroofs waving ginormous American flags and guys blowing vuvuzelas, spring break style.
It felt a little crazy, a bit much. Almost vulgar.
...
When I saw that folks were celebrating in the streets at the news of bin Laden’s death, my first reaction was a cringe. Remember how we all felt watching videos of those al-Qaeda guys dancing on Sept. 11?
Are we simply creating star-spangled recruitment tapes for a new generation of terrorists killing in the name of their new martyr?
h/t: Stephen Gutowski
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Mixed feelings on this
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 11:12am.
I do not feel it is appropriate, but then again I did not live in NYC in 2001 or have a family member killed. Maybe it would be different if that were the case. In 2001 when we saw Islamic countries & even USA Muslims celebrating, they were celebrating the death of people who caused them no harm what so ever. That shows what we are dealing with.
With Osama, there is indeed reason be relieved at his death & even be happy.
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
I was completely disgusted
Submitted by StarAZ on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 11:18am.
I turned to Geraldo in a commercial on another channel--and he was gloating, grinning, high-fiving himself, fisting the air, over the death of this guy. Bin Laden brought enough death--this was a party? I will never watch Geraldo At Large again or his segs on O'Reilly. As for everyone saying oh, now Obama is a lock for re-election--what is the new slogan? I FIND, I KILL, REVENGE, ME ME. The WH crowds--I think this was some FB meetup deal. I don't even know what this country has become anymore..
It was definitely astroturf.
Submitted by povertypimpin on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:43pm.
It was definitely astroturf. I saw numerous Obama signs, even a "Latinos for Obama" sign. I'm glad we killed him, but I'm not celebrating like my favorite team just won the superbowl. It was the same crowd that "spontaneously" showed up and was admitted to the Giffords "memorial".
Everything this
Submitted by Diesel on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 2:25pm.
Everything this administration does is a sham.
The majority of the youth in this country is 100% WORTHLESS! We (soon to be seniors) need to forget about them. We're on our own in our "golden years."
Disgusted as Well
Submitted by jjstoledo on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 1:06pm.
I was flipping the channels and happened to catch Fox, Geraldo, and as I watched I couldn't believe my ears, you're absolutely correct, he was making this sound like it was bigger than the 10 Commandments. Don't get me wrong, I think our Delta Force deserves all the credit for the missions success but Geraldo made it sound like this was the biggest accomplishment of Obama's presidency, I even heard him say this will probably be one of Obamas best speeches. I guess it dioesn't take much. The problem for me are all the mis-steps along the way and a foriegn policy that still lacks any substance other than to send in the drones. A big accomplishment, yes, but something that the President should make a special annouincement for, I don't think so. I fear it's more about politics rather than actually the mission itself, but, maybe it wasn't. I think that Fox needs some new blood and even listening to Bret Bauer, sometimes he goes over the top as well. I think they, sometimes, waste too much time with their own opinions.
I feel the same way about this
Submitted by nonncom on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 1:45pm.
that I do when some NFL jock does some stupid end zone celebration......come on, asshole, just hand the ball to the ref and go back to your sideline with some dignity.....act like you've been there before....these people that are celebrating in the streets act like it's the first time they've seen America accomplish something they set out to do.....get a clue, is how I feel....
Yeah, I agree
Submitted by StarAZ on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:28pm.
Chris Wallace was embarrassing trying to "trap" Bachmann Sunday--even Brit called him on it. Baier does not bother me too much, but Shep, ack, and some of the other Obama apologists (don't even on Colmes and Miller) are irritating. But Geraldo last nite was like some evil gremlin, cackling and waving his arms in glee.
would have been better had
Submitted by Rowane on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 5:30pm.
would have been better had Fox cut his video feed than to let this moronic crap out in their name.
You've got to stand for something, or you'll fall for anything. (Aaron Tippin)
Oh, get over yourself
Submitted by Lgbpop on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 8:40pm.
We are what we always have been, despite the best efforts of you and your kind to convince us we should be hand-wringing wimps afraid of our shadows. Funny, though, that you find that fool Rivera to be representative of real Americans - he's just another leftist reporter. And killing bin Laden won't make coffee or bread or gas any less expensive or jobs any more plentiful. Just more blather from those leftist fools in the media, trying to convince themselves and us that Obama's invincible.
We are Americans, baby; you don't mess with the U.S. Do that, and we will get the last laugh no matter how long it takes.
Well stated MaximusBraveheart!
Submitted by Red Jeep on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 11:23am.
I feel some unease too at the street celebrations. Bad as he was Bin Laden was no Hitler or Stalin.
Ditto what you wrote.
Have to disagree. Hitler and
Submitted by Ken Shepherd on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 11:57am.
Have to disagree. Hitler and Stalin led murderous nation-states. Bin Laden is the figurehead of a murderous trans-national Islamic extremist ideology. In sheer numbers, Hitler and Stalin were bloodier, but bin Laden is in their league when it comes to evil.
It's appropriate to rejoice in his demise.
Ditto.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:01pm.
.
No, it's not right for everyone to "rejoice in his demise."
Submitted by Mike Bratton on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 6:42pm.
Proverbs 24:17-18, "Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth: Lest the LORD see it, and it displease him, and he turn away his wrath from him."
Ezekiel 18:23, 32, "Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live? ... For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye."
The man is currently, irrevocably, in Hell. Who would wish that on someone, or celebrate it when it happens?
--Mike
Agree
Submitted by Cyborg 0427 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 8:07pm.
Mike I agree with you 100%. He was our enemy and I thank God for this victory, but I get no pleasure from it . I fought in Viet Nam and to me these middle east conflicts are like Viet Nam without the jungle. I rather morn the deaths of our young men who are giving their lives needlessly in a war that will never end. I know that 1984 was a work of fiction but remember the chapter "War is peace"? Tell me, when will we know when we win this so called war on terror? Was it just a man hunt for OBL? Is there a clear objective?
Obama will no doubt take credit for this but remember that he did not kill OBL. A member of our military did which is one of the people who Obama only a few weeks ago debated on not paying if the republicans did not give him his way.
Who would wish it and celebrate it?
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 8:18pm.
Well, given that the alternative is his still being alive and well and plotting to kill me, I would.
Jer
Jer
Submitted by 26CX on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 9:08pm.
Well said.
CX...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 9:11pm.
Thanks.
Jer
But you think he's just ceased to exist.
Submitted by Mike Bratton on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 2:20am.
Correct?
--Mike
I wished it but will not celebrate.
Submitted by NL207 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 9:42pm.
bin Laden's death is something of a disappointment for me.
I would prefer he had been taken alive and publicly executed at the scene of his crime, much as was done with Rudolph Hoess, former Kommandant of Auschwitz, who was hanged at Auschwitz for his crimes.
As it is, at least justice has been served. One of the principal authors of this hideous act has paid the ultimate price.
No one should expect that we are any safer or that we have defeated Fundamentalist Islam by this. That is a theo-political movement that has been waging war upon the non-muslim world for over 1,400 years. Killing one man is not going to deter it one bit. We will not be free of assault by these people until the last Muslim Jihadi has drawn his last breath.
You got that right.
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 9:52pm.
Amen to that, that is damn straight.
We are not fighting against one man. We are fighting against an enemy centuries older than our own history. One thing we have that is that we can have the will to do it. Thomas Jefferson proved that.
-Jon
It is anything but a disappointment for me.
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 3:03am.
I am neither naive enough to believe the final battle in the war against Islamist terrorism has been won leaving only the ticker tape parades to adorn our victory; nor am I cynical enough to dismiss the elimination of the pre-eminent ideological force influencing and propelling much of the more violent expressions of that radicalism--with Americans its most desirable targets--as somehow being inconsequential to our safety.
With each subtraction of a malignant mind from the senior command of Al Qaeda, whether by the capture and imprisonment of Kahlid sheikh Mohammed or by a bullet to the head of Osama bin Laden, the level of our security is added to, if only incrementally.
Furthermore, bin Laden's death means I need no longer picture the smug visage of that monstrous slaughterer of innocents casually raising a corresponding number of fingers to signify another horrific attack on our country and our citizens on 9/11. The very thought of it sickens and disgusts.. His current expression, I am quite certain, is suggestive of anything but arrogance.
So to the extent bin Laden's disposal represented at least a small measure of justice for all of those he robbed of life--and at least to some degree avenged their deaths--I do indeed celebrate his involuntary and very permanent relocation.
Jer
I'm with Jer
Submitted by panzerakc on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 10:22pm.
I won't be "celebrating" (I'd scare my dogs) his death, but I am thankful that he can't hurt anyone else, or make plans for other people to hurt anyone else.
If you aren't celebrating ...
Submitted by NL207 on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 1:29pm.
then you are not with Jer, are you?
You agree with me : The serving of Justice upon a mass murderer, a necessary and right action, is not a cause for celebration.
U S A! U S A! U S A!
Submitted by MadRat on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 1:26pm.
I hate to see people die, even Bin Laden, I'd much rather see them just go away. Sadly, the path of violent death is the one Bin Laden chose not only for himself but for others as well. As leader of the movement that killed so many innocent people there was no chance for him to be captured and imprisoned, his violent death was inevitable.
As far as Dvorak, she's exposed the side she's on whether she knows it or not. There are few things Liberals hate than anyone chanting "U-S-A" in support of America. In a related item, CNN International on Twitter,, "cnni: Web abuzz with killing http://goo.gl/fb/4sAXa" making it sound like cold blooded murder.
Geez... and I thought I was the only one...
Submitted by DumbCanuck on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:09pm.
...who felt this way.
Personally, I'm not celebrating his death. I would have preferred that he had been taken alive, and brought to (military) trial, then presumably found guilty and spend the rest of his life in a maximum security cell -- never to see daylight again!
This way, we now have a martyr, and who knows what the crazies will do as a result. The whole planet is now on heightened security alert, but I suppose there was no choice. He was given his chance to surrender, but chose to resist instead. So be it, then. I will not mourn his death, but is this an outcome actually worth celebrating?
I can understand the need for some to celebrate something like this, but please ask yourselves how have things improved? We're still fighting a war against these crazies, but now we have to deal with the reaction -- at least in the short term.
Oh, and how about Owe-bummer taking credit for this? Very unpresidential-like, if you ask me. I'm wondering if GWB would have patted himself on the back like this? Well, at least he owned up for his part of the plan, which I'm sure is going to drive the left nuts, but I'm wondering if he would have been so quick to claim responsibility if things had not gone so well.
BTW -- Kudos for those involved in this take-down. I shouldn't have to remind everyone how these brave men and women risked their lives on this mission. I'm relieved to find out that there were no casualties amond them.
"There... Are... Four... Lights!"
FYI onsite pics
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 1:37pm.
Here are some compound pics. Inside the rooms you can see blood on the ground. I have a king size water bed that was very similar to his (updated mine so not 1980's). No cave for him! Living the "good life" it seems.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/slideshow/photos-inside-osama-bin-la...
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
Mixed Feelings
Submitted by m1xram on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 4:54am.
Sure, decent people will be torn in both directions. We all remember the thousands of Palestinians celebrating in the streets because innocent American women and children were murdered. The celebrations today made me feel bad till I remembered the difference, that being, the celebration of murder VS the celebration of the execution of the murderer.
And even so, it is still difficult to celebrate. Here is another soul, claimed by satan, destined to burn forever in a lake of fire. Then there's all the people he led astray who will eventually join Osama there. It is a horrible waste of life.
We must remain vigilant against this evil as we wait for them to try to murder us again.
The opposite of Left is Freedom.
Celebration certainly can entail,
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 5:54am.
but doesn't necessarily require, public whooping and shooting off fireworks. When Ted Bundy was finally captured, did you rejoice in the fact that a mass murderer was taken off the streets and would rape and kill no more young women, or did you mourn the fact that he was one step closer to burning forever in the lake of fire?
I celebrate the irrefutable reality that Osama bin Laden will never again play an active role in the slaughter of thousands of innocent human beings. I celebrate the lives which may be saved by the loss of his. I'll leave it to God to dispose of his soul as He sees fit.
Jer
saved
Submitted by m1xram on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 4:41pm.
People were definitely saved.
The opposite of Left is Freedom.
flag down
Submitted by MidAmerica on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 11:27am.
Dancing in the end zone and spiking the ball is not allowed.
When it goes well with the
Submitted by Ken Shepherd on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 11:37am.
When it goes well with the righteous, the city rejoices, And when the wicked perish, there is joyful shouting. -- Prov. 11:10
Amen, brother.
Submitted by almostacowboy on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 11:56am.
Amen!
Amen.
Submitted by Soldat44 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 11:58am.
Amen.
well yeah but.....
Submitted by MidAmerica on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:07pm.
But only one of the wicked perished. Lot's more of them are waiting and watching. The more we celebrate the more the remaining wicked MUST retaliate to avenge the death. We have a blood feud like the Hatfields and McCoys. Killing one of them only intensifies the feud. We will have to be on guard waiting for their response. The more we celebrate the bigger the response the other side must make.
You won't be rid of the
Submitted by Ken Shepherd on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:20pm.
You won't be rid of the wicked until Judgment Day. If you're waiting for then to celebrate, you're waiting an indefinite amount of time.
I'm not say the war is over and all is right with the world. The fight against Islamic terrorism continues and will for the foreseeable future. But today, it's okay to be jubilant that OBL is dead.
Low key kinda guy
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:30pm.
I'm a low key kind of guy. I'm glad that someone as evil as this scumbag got wasted. Will I be jubilant? It'll go as far as this:
"Next!"
Hopefully it'll be al-Zawahiri. Keep killing the heads of the snakes. Even Hydras can be killed.
-Jon
Something to be jubilant about
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 2:03pm.
That the SeALs and their support crews got in and out unscathed.
This will be THE epic takedown in the annals of Special Operations. Something for the Teams to be extremely proud of. If you've not read Lone Survivor, read it in order to understand what being a member of the SeAL teams is all about.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Well, it's not vulgar
Submitted by bkeyser on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 11:29am.
What it is --and it's no surprise given that the majority of the late-night celebrants were young, college-aged people-- is premature. The war is not over.
I'm not too surprised about the DC and NYC gatherings but as I mentioned on another thread, it'll be interesting to see how those same people are reacting a year from now. My guess is that most of the people spontaneously celebrating aren't all that knowledgeable about what we've faced, what is likely to come from this episode, and what we're really dealing with in the Taliban and Al Qaeda.
I am surprised about the military academies though- unless they're merely celebrating a victory pulled off by their own. Some of the interviews I've seen seem to suggest otherwise, however.
Neutral about it myself
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 11:45am.
Because of the uncertainty behind it and more details coming out, not to mention having a very strong distaste(to put it mildly) of the person delivering the message(meaning the Chairman who is a liar no matter what), I'm ambivalent about the whole situation.
It seems like the celebrations are a bit more exuberant than really called for, and it feels like something's missing about the whole situation.
Plus, there's that warning that KSM gave that if UBL was killed, a nuke would get set off in Europe somewhere,(as noted on Drudge) what if that does happen?
I don't know, there's something not RIGHT about all this. Am I the only one that feels like that? It's not because of how much I want the Chairman gone, it has nothing to do with that.(and believe me, I don't care how much involvment he has in UBL's demise, he deserves to be tossed out for what he's done to this country)
I keep thinking about what happened to Saddam Hussein, how he was captured, the soldiers could have easily done the same, put a bullet into his head and no one would care. This situation, well, the guy is a warlord and like Hussein, has killed thousands.
I'm not "cringing" but my instincts are screaming about this. This doesn't feel right. What am I missing here? And by the way, I'm glad UBL is dead, but the circumstances? Don't know.
-Jon
REALLY?
Submitted by Order270 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:14pm.
Anyone who feels queasy about this needs to check their mental environment for the contamination of political fodder. Do not allow our culture of propaganda to affect your thinking in matters of life threatening situations.
We are just trying to raise our children, make a living, and pursue happiness with liberty and justice for all. This guy comes along and wants take all that away by using fear as a weapon. I feel no remorse for the death of true evil and if a little celebration occurs along the way, so be it.
If you will
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:39pm.
If you will, I have not begrudged anyone of celebrating the death of this animal. I have not said "we shouldn't celebrate." I'm only stating MY position about MY feelings about the situation which is to say, I don't trust the whole picture, especially when the information is coming from the Chairman. Even during the press briefing at lunch, there were more questions than answers.
But that's my hangup. Whether or not those questions get answered later remains to be seen.
I even asked a few questions hoping that someone might shed a little light on this because right now, the picture I see out of this puzzle is missing not just a corner piece, but a couple of other pieces as well, out of a 1000-piece puzzle.
Time will tell what happens.
-Jon
Fair enough, dude
Submitted by Order270 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 6:02pm.
I was turning into a bubbling cauldron and I just happened to pop on your post. I was getting the feeling everyone was getting too sympathetic about this mad man getting killed. I am drowning in this economy and we finally get some good news and it felt like everyone was trying to rain on this parade (as though we need any more rain here in Missouri).
Suffice to say, I went a little overboard. I withdraw my confrontations and apologize.
You are right about the questions and this being a big puzzle. It's just I can't trust this administration even more than Clinton's (and that's saying a LOT). Not that I trust any politician, but I just have more faith in the motives of the Conservatives because they are rooted in sound principles whereas Liberals fly by the seat of their pants and can't make a decision until they figure out which way the wind is blowing.
Your right
Submitted by Redrowan2000 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 8:05pm.
What, are we not to celebrate the death of a man that murdered 3000 Americans and thousands maybe more world wide? This isn't the end but lets not be pc about this. It was a great day for the navy seals and the country. Wave the flag if you want or say a prayer for the dead, but this was good news and it was good to see our youth taking pride in their country. I was beginning to lose hope.
Hey I'm not an Obama fan by any stretch, but if GWB was in the White House, he'd be getting the kudos here. Getting Bin Laden wasn't done by one man but they got him on his watch.
Tomorrow it's back to going at you. Today we remember the dead and celebrate the long time coming justice he received yesterday.
God Bless the USA
"Don't let the bastards grind you down."
Definitely not PC
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 8:28pm.
Anyone who knows me on here knows I'm nowhere even a hint close to being PC. Hell, I'm anti-PC.
That said, I already stated my kudos about that animal being taken down. That said too, if people want to rejoice about it, that's fine. I try to live by those two verses that Mike Bratton mentioned on this thread. I'm not judging anyone about this occasion, please do not judge me about how I chose to observe it. There are things I'll say "hell yeah!" about, but that ain't one of them.
All I said was that it seems like something's missing out of the picture, didn't say anything about stopping the celebrations. And it's already been shown that some of those crowds, especially over by the White House last night might have been some "staged celebrations."
I shouldn't have to be defending myself on this, for God's sake!
Go after the real enemy!
-Jon
Wrong reply
Submitted by Redrowan2000 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 9:05pm.
Jon,
My reply was to order270 who I agreed with. Had nothing to do with you or your statement.
"Don't let the bastards grind you down."
Sorry
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 9:18pm.
My bad, had a rough couple of weeks at work, made me kinda defensive.
My team was working with another team(another section in different department) and something went wrong with a dbase and for some stupid reason, my team got blamed for it instead of the other one who was responsible. I spent the last few days putting together records to prove it which is a real pain in the butt(time consuming) and because I spent the time, it was enough for the boss to determine what happened in a couple of minutes. Presentation is everything.
I need a vacation. Can't afford one at these damn prices these days. Best I can do is take a few days off work and watch blu-ray movies.
Sorry.
-Jon
I will simply say
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 9:20pm.
I feel better OBL is dead, then alive. I talked to a few buds who served in both Iraq and Afghanistan. They were beaming, thats all I needed.
Those Al-Qaeda Guys Dancing on 9/11
Submitted by Ben Hur on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 11:37am.
Were not Al-Qaeda.
They were your beloved Palestinians.
Once again, they don't need our help
Submitted by mustango on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 11:39am.
If Bin Laden's death is going to be a recruitment tool for terrorists, it's not going to matter how or if we celebrated it.
If millions of Muslims are going to be as personally outraged over the death of a man most of them probably never met, as thousands of American families who ACTUALLY LOST ONE OR MORE OF THEIR OWN LOVED ONES almost ten years ago were and are, that's something we can't help.
Some of them will come for revenge regardless of what we do now. There is no point in thinking that if we had celebrated more mutely that their bloodthirst would be lessened one bit.
Recruitment tool*
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:17pm.
Agree mustango. Bin Laden's death is not just A recruitment tool. If so, what was the cause of these other attacks. Most people pay no attention but there has been over 17,000 radical Islamic terrorists attacks world wide since 9-11.
Here in the US we have been fortunate or should I say lucky.
How is celebrating the murder
Submitted by forest on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 11:39am.
How is celebrating the murder of 3000 innocent people vaguely the same as celebrating the death of the mass murderer? And it's not just any random mass murderer. The guy is on record over and over again saying he wants to kill or convert the rest of us. He was a perpetual death threat.
bin Laden has issued death threats against me, my family, and everyone else in "the west" including Dvorak.
He's dead and I'm celebrating.
I wonder if Ms Dvorak was as upset watching
Submitted by no tingly legs on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 11:43am.
innocent people on 9/11, in flames, leaping to their deaths from the burning WTC towers? The monster responsible for those deaths was killed yesterday and celebrations by Americans are perfectly understandable. Personally, my good feelings at his killing wouldn't be demonstrated in such an obvious manner, but I have no problem with those celebrants.
To be fair, I am sure she
Submitted by Ruths husband Ben on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:18pm.
To be fair, I am sure she thought that 911 was almost vulgar also. She is so continental, don't you know?
Me personally? Happy dancing like Snoopy around his dog-bowl. Shameless and unapologetic. A bad guy got what he deserved.
Where is CAIR
Submitted by okie-pastor on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 11:46am.
I wonder what CAIR's response is?
Has anyone heard?
→ CAIR's response
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 11:53am.
"We join our fellow citizens in welcoming the announcement that Osama bin Laden has been eliminated as a threat to our nation and the world through the actions of American military personnel. As we have stated repeatedly since the 9/11 terror attacks, bin Laden never represented Muslims or Islam. In fact, in addition to the killing of thousands of Americans, he and Al Qaeda caused the deaths of countless Muslims worldwide. We also reiterate President Obama's clear statement tonight that the United States is not at war with Islam."
They responded last night
Never trust CAIR
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:25pm.
I wouldn't trust CAIR any further than I could throw them.
Funny though, the Islamic Jihadists are fighting in accordance with the Koran, they are yelling "Allahu Akbar" when things happen, who are we at war with? Jihad means holy war.
There's an awful lot of misdirection about all this.
-Jon
Yes they are encouraged to
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:41pm.
Yes they are encouraged to lie to help Islam spread. That is how they have their apologists in Western suits saying one thing in public, but in private they still have radical family ties.
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
Nevermind they are saying
Submitted by okie-pastor on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 11:51am.
Nevermind they are saying they are welcoming usama bin ladens death
Glad to hear it!
A foreign-born colleague....
Submitted by almostacowboy on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 11:59am.
at work asked me if I was "excited". I said, "No. It's like collecting a debt that you've been owed for 10 years.......finally."
I think Petula....
Submitted by almostacowboy on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:05pm.
is being petulant.
"I had an irresistible urge."
- Lorena Bobbit
This is a great victory for
Submitted by rbosque on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:11pm.
This is a great victory for all who've died from terrorism as well as those who've died trying to find this SOB. Celebrations are always welcomed when we rid the world of truly evil people who take pleasure in killing innocent men, women and children.
They say he's being buried at sea and in accordance to Islamic law. It's too bad many people on 9-11 weren't given the courtesy of a proper burial.
May he rot in hell.
Had these people been in the
Submitted by rwesley2.0 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:12pm.
Had these people been in the streets burning a U.S. flag or defacating on it, I'm sure the writer would have deemed it "revolutionary" or "striking".
To those of you who 'cringe'
Submitted by Soldat44 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 1:23pm.
To those of you who 'cringe' about the celebratory response that some Americans are exhibiting:
Osama Bin Laden was the proverbial 'Boogeyman Under the Bed' for most Americans and others. He was the face of pure evil and as long as he lived we were threatened. A face that the MSM had no problem whatsoever promoting.
Most of you need to go and look at old newsreels of people's reactions to the news of Hitler's death. We had been burning effigies of Hitler and Tojo every other weekend.
This is a natural response to an end of a very stressful 10 years. This isn't the last madman that the world will have to endure...there will be others. But for now, we need to celebrate in the death of the 'Boogeyman'.
May God have mercy on his soul.
Saying we can't celebrate the
Submitted by Iron Zerg on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:18pm.
Saying we can't celebrate the culmination of a 10 year man hunt for the most notorious killer of our generation? That's BS.
Let's celebrate this one, and not lament the fact that he wasn't captured alive. In fact, I'm glad our Navy SEALs smoked this guy. Now we don't have to deal with all the hand-wrining, politically correct BS that would have surrounded putting this guy on the trial.
Mission accomplished! And anyone who says anything less should be ashamed of themselves.
YES!!!!
Submitted by rickbren on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:37pm.
YES!!!!
Nope--not in the least ashamed
Submitted by StarAZ on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 1:06pm.
Another death--this man has already been replaced, we are have been told all along it moved beyond him...now this is some solution? I remember 9-11 very well, I wrote about it for CBS HealthWatch, as a matter of fact (how to talk to your kids, how to take down a hijacker with a ballpoint, etc.). This is too blood-thirsty and at the same time, not enough--there could never be enough to compensate for the horror of that day. So, no high fives for me. Mileage may vary depending on your philosophy of life and death, I guess.
Capturing him alive would have been horrible!
Submitted by no tingly legs on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 1:07pm.
I can just picture the platoons of ACLU lawyers petitioning for, and winning, his release because of failure to read him his Miranda rights upon his capture. The only bad thing in all this was his "proper Muslim burial". Better that his body be put through a meat grinder and used for pig feed. Come to think of it, that might constitute cruelty to animals.
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Submitted by no tingly legs on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 1:11pm.
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I don't really get the
Submitted by balboa on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:23pm.
I don't really get the celebration part of it. I'm glad he's dead, because he was evil and a constant threat to America and other nations. But I'm not partying about it. It took us 10+ years to find him. Not sure that's worth celebrating. It's more of "finally." It's closure.
Someone else will take his place.
Bal
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:28pm.
"Finally", though somewhat subdued, is still a measure of celebration.
True. I guess I prefer
Submitted by balboa on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:29pm.
True. I guess I prefer subdued.
How about "about high damn
Submitted by Rowane on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 5:45pm.
How about "about high damn time"?
You've got to stand for something, or you'll fall for anything. (Aaron Tippin)
I hope they laid him. . .
Submitted by rickbren on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:37pm.
to rest with a pig's heart on his chest. . .
Does the libtard press robot
Submitted by mattm on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:38pm.
Does the libtard press robot from the Washingbrain Post cringe at Obama arrogantly taking credit for this?
Meanwhile, April was the bloodiest month in Iraq since 2009...where are the protesters?
Funny how April 09 was the last yardstick point - since Obama's election was supposed to mollify the terrorists who were only upset with us because Bush was president....or some other self-contradictory libtard nonsense.
I'm glad he's dead, but there are still 90 million other bib ladens out there and many of them are coming into our country through the Mexican border.
Gee, wouldn't it have been nice if Clinton would have captured this guy when he had the chance....
...and more Americans have
Submitted by povertypimpin on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:49pm.
...and more Americans have died in Afghanistan in the last 2+ years then in the entire war.
I'm so glad they got Bin Laden
Submitted by MissMinPhx on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 1:06pm.
But do think the dancing in the streets is in poor taste. We are a Christian nation. We forgive and pray for our enemies, as our faith instructs us to do. We don't dance in the streets when we kill a guy (no matter how evil that guy is). We should be praying for Bin Laden's soul - it's what we as Christians are taught to do. As well, the dancing in the streets is a bit premature. Bin Laden has been the most hunted man in the world for 10 years. It's pretty safe to say Al Queda has a plan in place to pick up the pieces following his death.
That said, kudos to the brave men who carried this mission out.
I caught Kathy Lee Gifford
Submitted by rogue operator on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 1:29pm.
I caught Kathy Lee Gifford chiding Americans for celebrating in the street over UBL's death. She said it would only "fuel" more terrorism. The difference between the right and left is that the right thinks peace comes through defeating enemies who want to kill you, the left thinks it means thinking happy thoughts and if you leave them alone, they'll leave you alone. If you love them enough, then eventually they'll see the light. If you remedy their poverty, they'll have no more reasons to fight. It's a utopian vision impervious to facts and reason.
Do you not think, reasonably
Submitted by balboa on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 1:49pm.
Do you not think, reasonably and looking at facts, that celebrating in the streets might give terrorists a little more giddyup? Did KLG say she thought we should love OBL and the terrorists?
No, Bal
Submitted by CobraMan on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:11pm.
A little more "giddyup?" Please! When it comes to how the terrorists view Americans, we're damned if we do, damned if we don't. Had Americas not displayed any type of jubilation, those terrorists would claim that we are weak and insignificant, let alone unable to support our government and the sanctioned killing of bin Laden..
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
But when that Koran was
Submitted by balboa on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:18pm.
But when that Koran was burned, it resulted in a ton of additional violence. I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility to say that dancing in the streets because Osama's dead might do the same.
Yes, it's possible,
Submitted by Phryj1 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 8:33pm.
...but that doesn't mean we should be let ourselves be intimidated.
I still remember how angry I was when I found out people in Muslim countries were celebrating and dancing in the streets in the wake of 9/11. Now that we got the guy responsible, it's our turn to celebrate. We've earned it.
Besides, it's just as possible that knowing we were able to get Bin Laden and we aren't afraid to celebrate that fact will demoralize would-be terrorists. It would show them we aren't going to let them beat us.
Progressives seem to be completely averse to facts and logic. Apparently, reality has a conservative bias.
Delete double post.
Submitted by panzerakc on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 10:33pm.
Delete double post.
Yes, when that copy of the Koran was burned, it set off violence
Submitted by panzerakc on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 10:31pm.
There was also violence following the FALSE rumor that a Koran had been flushed down a toilet.
They CHOOSE to react this way.
Any excuse to react in violence will set them off. Double coupon day at the local Albertson's will more than suffice.
Muslims are already on the
Submitted by rbosque on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 2:18pm.
Muslims are already on the warpath against us no matter what we do, they've been at war with us way before 9-11. Piss on Islam.
Rush Limbaugh made a good point. He wanted to know
Submitted by VanPastorMan on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 1:48pm.
how these college students got a bunch of flags in the middle of the night. Did anyone else thing that this crowd at the WH looked a little staged?
I would almost be surprised
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 1:56pm.
I would almost be surprised if it was NOT staged. Better than 50/50 chance that was arranged.
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
I'm glad Rush said it ....
Submitted by MissMinPhx on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 1:58pm.
I had the same thought too, when watching the news reports of the "spontaneous" street celebrations. I got a little suspcious when Rachel Maddow just found herself in the middle of the celebrations and was able to call in to the news station to talk about what it felt like to be among the crowd. I thought, geez, I just found out about Bin Laden's death and there are already thousands of people celebrating in front of the Whilte House, with flags and signs. Yes, it did seem staged (like these things normally are) and I'm glad Rush pointed that out.
That was the first thing I thought too.
Submitted by Order270 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 2:23pm.
Also notice how there has been no estimates in the number of people. Just a generic "crowds". (I wonder how many people it takes to make a crowd?)
Proud of Penn State
Submitted by Redrowan2000 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 8:14pm.
May have been staged, but at Penn State last night this was the scene:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42853955
great bunch of kids.
Made me feel proud.
"Don't let the bastards grind you down."
IF
Submitted by The Irishman on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 2:14pm.
If Americans built a 5000 foot tall voodoo doll of bin Laden and gave each citizen a thousand flaming spears to fire off, and even if the world jubilated like the Star Wars universe did after the Emperor was killed and the 2nd Death Star destroyed...
Still wouldn't be vulgar.
liberal turd
Submitted by MrShy on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 2:25pm.
What are you still doing here?
- Shy Vinyl
Join Mr. Shy and The 1* Percent
Such passion
Submitted by The Irishman on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 2:47pm.
With sparkle and splendor, acuity and brilliance.
Irishman...
Submitted by Phryj1 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 6:27pm.
For once, we're in complete agreement on something. That's a first.
Also, wins for Star Wars reference.
Progressives seem to be completely averse to facts and logic. Apparently, reality has a conservative bias.
Any chance you're Irish?
Submitted by The Irishman on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 6:34pm.
That would make 2 : - }
The Star Wars reference was the only party I could think of that reflects the way I believe most Americans feel right now. And Star Wars ALWAYS relates to something.
I'm at least one-quarter Irish on my mom's side.
Submitted by Phryj1 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 6:53pm.
And I'm pretty sure my paternal grandmother's part-Irish, too.
And I love me some Star Wars.
America needs SOMETHING to cheer about right now, and if a clear victory over an absolute evil isn't something to celebrate, I don't know what is.
Progressives seem to be completely averse to facts and logic. Apparently, reality has a conservative bias.
Not to be sappy
Submitted by The Irishman on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 7:30pm.
But there hasn't been an occasion in a very long time that has had Americans cheering in unison.
And kudos - you've got the best line of the day:
America needs SOMETHING to cheer about right now, and if a clear victory over an absolute evil isn't something to celebrate, I don't know what is.
Irish, Star Wars, if you weren't a conservative...
Stop defaming the Irish, liar.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 10:38pm.
;) :-) <***> tee hee hee.
Whack fol la de rah
Submitted by The Irishman on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 9:27am.
I see you've mastered keyboard sanscrit.
Did anyone cringe when...
Submitted by Order270 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 2:15pm.
...a commercial airliner loaded with passengers was kamikazed into the World Trade Center. I have no problem with a little celebration. It's the only good news we've had in years. Oh, and BTW, Osama's death does not rise to the dignity of a murder. He was killed and that's it.
And another thing, let it be known if they want to keep up their cowardly attacks, they will be killed, too. The only weapon of terrorism is fear and WE ARE NOT AFRAID!!! PERIOD.
NEVER FORGET!
I wonder if Dvorak cringed when those people were jumping...
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 2:27pm.
...to their deaths from the upper floors of the WTC to escape being roasted alive?
Had she been around, Dvorak probably would have complained about the street celebrations that followed our clobbering of Japan and our victory over Germany in WWII.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
I have wondered if Dvorak
Submitted by ForeverOnTheRight on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 6:42pm.
I have wondered if Dvorak "cringed" and thought it "vulgar" when muslims danced in our streets after 9/11?
I am not celebrating his death. On the other hand I am relieved that he is dead. But I am "cringing" at the thought of Obama taking more credit than he deserves. If for no other reason than not stopping the man hunt, he deserves that much credit. He could have stopped the hunt for some hair brained PC reason, of which I could not think of a good one.
All of these are bad
Submitted by StarAZ on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:11pm.
Can't you see that? Any person with sensibility, at least in my opinion, does not celebrate atrocities. Am I heartbroken this man is dead? No. I can honestly say I never thought about him more than a couple of times a week the past few yrs. They told us AQ had moved on--that he was not relevant. Guess that was a lie.
Atrocities?
Submitted by Order270 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:27pm.
Osama's death is an atrocity? Really? Do you consider a threat to your way of life an atrocity? Do you think living in fear is an atrocity? Do you believe losing your rights to be an atrocity? Is it better to surrender than to fight? What value do you place on life?
These are bad? What freaking planet are you from?
Submitted by QMCS on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 5:23pm.
Did you have to attend any funerals after 9/11? This scumbag got off easy with a bullet in the head, and no it wont bring any of his victums back but it sure as hell gives closure to a lot of people that have spent the last 12 years hunting this scumbag down, while we see our friends get shot and blown up.
And if you want to talk about atrocities, how about the victums of the african embassies, the twin towers, the pentagon, all four airplanes, the USS Cole, and list goes on and on and on.
Party in the streets no, but i'll damn sure be buying the drinks at the base club tonight, and if anyone thinks thats vulgur then i have only one thing to say to em.....
Kiss my a**.
Sorry
Submitted by Bob K on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 2:40pm.
to hear that the celebration caused his delicate lace panties to bunch up.
Actually, Dvorak is a she.
Submitted by no tingly legs on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:41pm.
Probably goes commando, so no panties to bunch up.
Petula, who?
Submitted by NVRAT on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:42pm.
Well Petula, when OBL brought down the twin towers he celebrated with hundreds/thousands of other Muslims, so I don`t see any reason why we can`t celebrate his death. Sounds like fun to me. What I do find disgusting is the news media babbling on and on about it and, that includes FOX (my favorite). What I think the media should be doing is showing past news clips of the Democrats berating Bush for the Patriot Act and his trying to hunt down Ben Laden, their disgust for Gitmo and, wanting to provide ACLU lawyers for all detainees. Now they are running around claiming victory and how astute Obama was in hunting OBL down and killing him. This whole thing is funny when BHO runs out to the public and say "I SIGNED THE ORDER TO HAVE HIM KILLED" Hello...I think the order was a standing order and, this incident just happened to be on BHO`s watch he knew he had to sign it because there were to many people knew about it and would have leaked the info. Since his ratings are in the tank he was forced to issue the order you know...anything for the Socialist Party so, BHO you get no credit from me.
If.,.....
Submitted by Chicagoray40 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:45pm.
...all of what happened yesterday happened 7 years ago, you ALL know what would be the headline story today: "evil blood lust Bush Cheney conservatives celebrate massacre" and the likely "what about his RIGHT TO LIFE" and "drunken Bush lackeys celebrate like Palestinians they despised so much after 911"..
With That being said:
.. after accidentally stumbling into being one of @ReallyVirtual's 14,000 twitter followers of his happenstance live feed from Paki yesterday afternoon, I'm damn glad and proud that Oslima is dead, have absolutely no problem with how it was done, believe it was done, but was turned off by the mostly college DC pep rally for it's Super Bowl exuberance, and Geraldo's appearance didn't help matters, but I will say he's close to those soldiers and has been there dozens of times so I can see his happiness..
However not disappointed by the New York Times Square and Ground Zero more dignified remembrances of the mostly friends and families of the here and both gone firefighters and such who were THERE, yet weren't there with that what seemed to be johnny on the spot signage and propaganda, which a skeptical cynic like myself would say was supplied by a white house staff that perhaps MIGHT encourage delaying a presser for an hour to "Trump Trump" I would bet anything in DC.
They just reminded me a little too much of the well seen you tube by us all of those celebrating Palestinians on 911, that's all.
It was a young Howard college and a little Georgetown Facebook flash mob with many relieved and proud adults scattered amongst them VERY PROUD of our finest of military both here and gone, also saluting the 2996 who left us all so wickedly that morning on 911 and celebrating the country itself. After all, the kids and none of us really have much to cheer about under this astro turf community organizer, although I'll give him this one.
At least he pulled the trigger on Navy SEAL Team 6 and that's where it ends for him with me. I wouldn't vote for him if he pulled Osama's sack out with his teeth.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe. –Albert Einstein My Twitter
Now now - don't be Petulant.
Submitted by TheReal_mojo on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 4:20pm.
Now now - don't be Petulant.
Double Standard
Submitted by RealVet on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 4:57pm.
... and did we hear from this particular left-wing jerk when liberals across the internet celebrated the death of Ronald Reagan, and yahoo permitted a user created chat room titled "Ding Dong Ronnie's Dead" for over a month?
Personally, I didn't celebrate, but I took quiet pleasure in the realization that this headchopper gets to smoke a turd in hell.
Amen to that
Submitted by QMCS on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 5:25pm.
.
Would the liberal media please make up their minds?
Submitted by Phryj1 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 6:17pm.
Are we supposed to be heaping praise on Obama for Bin Laden's death, or are we supposed to feel bad because Bin Laden is dead? Which is it?
Because if they're going to presume to tell everyone what to think and feel, they could at least be consistent about it.
Then again, it IS something of a relief to see they aren't all marching in lockstep with the "Obama killed Bin Laden" parade, even if it's only because their elitist "Americans are stupid" mentality gets in the way.
Progressives seem to be completely averse to facts and logic. Apparently, reality has a conservative bias.
OT Overloaded, posted here instead
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 7:42pm.
I figured this would be ok here, but if not, sorry.
But they say a picture is worth a thousand words.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/whitehouse/5680724572/in/photostream
Look at Biden, Hillary, a few others, and then look at the Chairman. Hillary's reaction, I can understand, but DuhOne looks angry. Everyone else appears to be in a "wait and see" posture, but I don't see that in the Chairman at all. His face is the only one that looks that way out of everyone else.
-Jon
Without commenting on the
Submitted by Chris Norman on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 8:39pm.
Without commenting on the "spontaneity" of the "street celebrations", Ms. Dvorak is probably one of those sophisticates who think the American flag is "gaudy"....
The Post writer likely can't stomach watching...
Submitted by thescoots on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 8:10am.
The Wizard of Oz either......You know, the part where the Munchkins are dancing and singing: "Ding Dong, the witch is dead....The wicked, wicked witch is dead....Ding Dong, the wicked witch is dead!".......gotta love these liberals....
I bet Dvorak is one of those America-haters who gets nauseated
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 8:36am.
...when she pulls up behind a car with an American flag on it.
If she is ashamed to live in this country, then she can move her worthless communist ass to someone else's country.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
I am confused...
Submitted by JLin on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 10:11am.
I thought Petula was in jail for shooting Spider Sabich with a .22?