Matthews Links Palin&Bachmann to Giffords Shooting, Portrays U.S. as Gun Crazed Nation
Chris Matthews, on Monday's Hardball, used the attempt on Gabrielle Giffords' life, to not only portray America as some sort of gun crazed country, but also to blame the likes of Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann for political violence as he blurted: "Sarah Palin using gun play language. What is she talking about crosshairs and reloading...and Bachmann out there with her kind of talk. I mean it seems like the way people talk now has, has gotten more ballistic...Why are guns talked about so much, especially on the right? Why?"
First up, Matthews depicted the United States as a uniquely gun crazed nation, especially in regards to political violence, as he told asked Arizona Democratic Congressman Raul Grijalva "In Mexico I don't see their leaders getting knocked off every couple of years....This country has a particular, historic problem with assassination of public officials." Apparently Matthews missed the news that just this last summer, in Mexico, a candidate for governor, Rodolfo Torre, was killed.
Then later on in the show, Matthews, along with the Huffington Post's Howard Fineman, went after a couple of his favorite targets, Palin and Bachmann, as seen in this exchange:
(video after the jump)
CHRIS MATTHEWS: Here's part of Palin's email to Glenn Beck which he read on his radio show. Quote, "I hate violence, I hate war. Our children will not have peace if politicos just capitalize on this to succeed in portraying anyone as inciting terror and violence." Well that sounds horribly defensive, Howard, and too broad in its defense to mean anything.
HOWARD FINEMAN, HUFFINGTON POST: Yeah. I, I - having seen her play with the, with the gun analogy, I'm not going to cut her that much slack here.
MATTHEWS: Yeah.
FINEMAN: I saw her last spring in New Orleans, and she did the - in front of a Republican audience of grassroots hardcore people saying, "We're not gonna retreat, we're gonna reload."
MATTHEWS: What's that mean?
FINEMAN: Okay, now, I know she said, "Hey, that doesn't mean anything." To those people, that was dog whistle politics to those people.
MATTHEWS: Yeah, yeah.
FINEMAN: And it involves Second Amendment rights, it involves the whole mythology and reality of guns. She knew exactly what she was playing with here. That doesn't mean she's in any way responsible for this. To underscore that, okay? But that's the thing that she's playing around with here, and she darn well knows what she's doing.
The following teasers and exchanges were aired on the January 10 Hardball:
CHRIS MATTHEWS: Well Congressman [Raul] Grijalva this is the idiot conversation we're having right now, in this country. I don't know where in Europe or Africa, or Asia they go to political events carrying guns. I don't - in Mexico I don't see their leaders getting knocked off every couple of years. I don't see it in Canada. This country has a particular, historic problem with assassination of public officials. And I just wonder how we can countenance this in public life.
REP. RAUL GRIJALVA, AZ-D: Well you know in, in the state of Arizona, right now there, legislation is gonna be pending to allow students at universities and faculty to carry concealed weapons. It's that crazy. And so when you feed the environment of a tolerance and impunity for, for guns and particularly in a public event dealing with people coming to deal with issues that are important to them, it's unbelievable. And, and, and creates an atmosphere not only of fear. Right after the aftermath of this tragedy somebody posted, someone who is famous for their anti-immigrant and gun issues, posted a comment said, "It's too bad that it wasn't Grijalva." So you feed that ugliness.
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MATTHEWS: Sarah Palin using gun play language. What is she talking about crosshairs and reloading? And Sharron Angle talking about Second Amendment remedies and, and Bachmann out there with her kind of talk. I mean it seems like the way people talk now has, has gotten more ballistic. It's gotten to do with guns, when it has nothing to do with Second Amendment issues. I understand the right to bear arms. It's in our Constitution. It's protected in our Bill of Rights. I understand that, but people bring it up, totally irregardless of the topic, they bring up guns. Why are guns talked about so much, especially on the right? Why?
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MATTHEWS: Up next the attempted assassination of Congresswoman Giffords. Will that temper the red hot vitriol we're getting from both sides?...Well let's talk about Sarah Palin. She is definitely a focus tonight. This is Hardball, only on MSNBC.
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MATTHEWS: Welcome back to Hardball, we're back with Howard Fineman of the Huffington Post and Melinda Henneberger of PolitcsDaily or DailyPolitics rather. I think it's PoliticsDaily. This, this map appeared, by the way, on Palin's, Sarah Palin's Facebook page to mark the Democrats her political action committee, SarahPac, that's nice name, wanted to defeat. Well in March of last year Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, who was shot this week, reacted to Palin's map. Let's listen.
REP. GABRIELLE GIFFORDS: We're on Sarah Palin's targeted list, but the thing is the way that she has it depicted has the crosshairs a gun site over our district. When people do that, they've got to realize there's consequences to that action.
MATTHEWS: Well, there are consequences. Here's part of Palin's email to Glenn Beck which he read on his radio show. Quote, "I hate violence, I hate war. Our children will not have peace if politicos just capitalize on this to succeed in portraying anyone as inciting terror and violence." Well that sounds horribly defensive, Howard, and too broad in its defense to mean anything.
HOWARD FINEMAN, HUFFINGTON POST: Yeah. I, I - having seen her play with the, with the gun analogy, I'm not going to cut her that much slack here.
MATTHEWS: Yeah.
FINEMAN: I saw her last spring in New Orleans, and she did the - in front of a Republican audience of grassroots hardcore people saying, "We're not gonna retreat, we're gonna reload."
MATTHEWS: What's that mean?
FINEMAN: Okay, now, I know she said, "Hey, that doesn't mean anything." To those people, that was dog whistle politics to those people.
MATTHEWS: Yeah, yeah.
FINEMAN: And it involves Second Amendment rights, it involves the whole mythology and reality of guns. She knew exactly what she was playing with here. That doesn't mean she's in any way responsible for this. To underscore that, okay? But that's the thing that she's playing around with here, and she darn well knows what she's doing.
MATTHEWS: You know, her, her wanna-be like, Michele Bachmann, who imitates her as much as she can, talked about she wants the people of Minnesota to be armed and dangerous. She's also talking constantly about this Second Amendment thing and guns. It's an obsession with these people. And it's my main focus tonight, bringing guns - not the Second Amendment right to bear arms, that's in our Constitution - but to keep talking about how you're gonna use this right in politics.
MELINDA HENNEBERGER, POLITICSDAILY.COM: Well, back to you, what you said about when she said, "Don't retreat, reload." Specifically, she wasn't speaking about gun rights in that moment.
MATTHEWS: Right.
HENNEBERGER: You know she was, she was actually defending Laura Schlesinger's right to make unfortunate racial remarks in that instance. But-
FINEMAN: No, I'm sorry. No.
—Geoffrey Dickens is the Senior News Analyst at the Media Research Center. You can follow him on Twitter here
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We are dangerous, Chrissy.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 8:31pm.
Be afraid. Be very afraid!
What a wussie.
Oh no!!!
Submitted by GregE on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 9:29pm.
Golly gee Beave!!! Are you threatening Chrissy? You don't have to be so sore at 'em Wally.
Threaten? Me threaten?
Submitted by Newsbubba on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:44am.
Naw. I just love Lumpy, especially when he's is in a full "vapors" attack.
Can we still say "attack" or is that too militant and prone to incite violence?
Can't say "militant" and
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:57am.
Can't say "militant" and "incite violence" anymore. "Prone" is debatable. :-)
Not sure I understand
Submitted by octavioj on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 8:46pm.
If indeed the country is so gun crazy, should we not see one of these every week? Why is it that they happen so infrequently if it is because of the guns and not the people who hold them? Why do they never explore that question?
octavioj
Submitted by well99 on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 9:31pm.
Chrissy forgot this quote by Palin "They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun" .Oh wait that was by The Chosen One.Maybe he can explain this from his buddy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCP0HD3I_wM&feature=player_embedded#!
Be prepare for a lie fest.
I somebody would have had a
Submitted by mostlymoderate on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 8:46pm.
If somebody would have had a GUN that day then they could have taken out that failed-abortion that had time to reload! Where is the security at these functions?
I mean if the government is going to always be there to protect us, where the hell were they on that day? That's RIGHT! They are NOT always going to be there and that's why people carry their Glock's around.
"When seconds count,
Submitted by Clutch1956 on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 9:35pm.
the police are only minutes away." Remember that.
A friend of mine says he
Submitted by stratman on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 12:21am.
A friend of mine says he carries a (legally) concealed pistol because a policeman is too heavy.
That's funny. I never heard
Submitted by mostlymoderate on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 12:39am.
That's funny. I never heard that :) So true, if I could have an armed police officer guarding me 24/7 then maybe I wouldn't need my trusty Smith & Wesson. Until that happens, I am carrying the gun when I drive through strange places.
There was a guy there with a concealed weapon.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:52am.
They interviewed him on Fox, but you won't hear it anywhere else.
He heard the shots, and came running out of the store with him hand on the gun and the safety off. He ran toward the sound of shots!
When he got there someone else had already tackled the shooter, another man had picked up the weapon, and this guy didn't know who the shooter was. He never showed his weapon, but ordered the guy with the gun to drop it, noting that the gun was empty. No over reaction.
He then grabbed the free arm of the shooter while the other person help him down.
The concealed carrier was coming to help, not ducking for cover. Police are great, but they can't be everywhere.
Let me know if you hear this anywhere in the MSM unless they can figure out how to paint him as a right-wing loon.
Riiiiight. There hasn't been
Submitted by bkeyser on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 8:37pm.
Riiiiight. There hasn't been a Mexican Mayor beheaded in what? Two weeks?
Chrissy Matthews
Submitted by RightRealDeal on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 8:41pm.
Wait, this is the clown that has the leg thing going with OBozo, right?
More guns less crime..
Submitted by upcountrywater on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 8:44pm.
Understanding Crime and Gun Control Laws (Studies in Law and Economics)For each additional year that a concealed handgun law is in effect the murder rate declines by 3 percent, rape by 2 percent, and robberies by over 2 percent.
You Didn't Build That.
Sage advice
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 8:49pm.
Tell me, Chrissy, why is it that the gun-crazed nation of Switzerland, where every able bodied male is required by law to own a gun, doesn't have mass shootings every day?
"The law is far, the fist is near." - Korean proverb
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Because they are not a
Submitted by mostlymoderate on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 8:51pm.
Because they are not a melting pot for the World. People are less stressed.
Hmmm...
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 9:03pm.
That has been changing in recent years in Switzerland.
People there may be less stressed, but I am also going to take a wild stab and think to myself that it would be a very bad idea to break into someone's home there.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Two kinds of Men, those with guns, and those who dig.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 9:04pm.
Seems a guy cruises thru a stop sign, or whatever, and gets pulled over by a local policeman.
Guy hands the cop his driver's license, insurance verification, plus his concealed carry permit.
"Okay, Mr. Smith," the cop says, "I see your CHL permit. Are you carrying today?"
"Yes, I am."
"Well then, better tell me what you got."
Smith says, "Well, I got a .357 revolver in my inside coat pocket. There's a 9mm semi-auto in the glove box.
And, I've got a ...22 magnum derringer in my right boot."
"Okay," the cop says, "Anything else?"
"Yeah, back in the trunk, there's an AR15 and a shotgun. That's about it."
"Mr. Smith, are you on your way to or from a gun range...?"
"Nope."
"Well then, what are you afraid of...?"
"Not a damn thing...."
You Didn't Build That.
Comrade Prissy is just pissed off that we have guns and can stop
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 8:56pm.
...he and his fellow-traveling elitest snob commies from turning this nation into the Marxist/statist hell-hole the left has been aiming for for well over a hundred years now.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
If anyone ever needed a
Submitted by Captain Repus on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 8:57pm.
If anyone ever needed a perfect example of what is wrong with political discourse, hatred and hate-mongering in this country today, all they have to do is watch todays airing of Manlove Matthews show.
God speed Comcast.
If Palin was/is so good at
Submitted by Nortonalec on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 9:03pm.
"mind control", why didn't she just get herself and McCain elected? Sheesh!!
What about the segment with David Corn at 7:20 to 7:30?
Submitted by djwolf12 on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 9:08pm.
The guy who told these 2 asshats that the guy who pulled the trigger acted psychotically, NOT IDEOLOGICALLY. You could really hear Matthews bellow, whine and sound depressed when that guy gave his answer and Matthews didn't like it.
Pfffft
Submitted by jdlybrand on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 9:06pm.
How's that gun control working out in DC? Dumbasses!!
"What a revoltin' development this is!"
Chester Riley
Chrissy Needs to Come out Of the Closet!
Submitted by gruyere cheese on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 9:28pm.
Chris Matthews has such hatred for Palin & Bachman, he will take any opportunity to demonize them.
This was a very sad day in our history and Matthews continues to spew vile comments about these two women because they are Conservative not Liberal? Shame on him and his management peers at MSNBC.
Matthews needs to hang the towel and take an early retirement. I actually feel sorry for him; every time he is on his show he portrays the image of a sad, angry, intolerant man who cannot live in the 21st Century -- yes Chrissy it is 2010 not 1969.
Times have changed. We now have the internet and too many cable channels offering so many different point of views about our political system. At least we live in a country where we can have a point of view regardless of your party affiliation.
It is time for MSNBC to change management and its staff. Their crap is simply getting old!
actually
Submitted by djwolf12 on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 9:45pm.
it is 2011
Anyone see Howard Fineman's
Submitted by GregE on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 9:30pm.
Anyone see Howard Fineman's description of Obama while talking with Chrissy? Something about how he's always been about civility. Do these people hear themselves?
If anyone has a clip of that exchange, PLEASE POST!
Something BHO said...
Submitted by bigdaddy on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 9:33pm.
...about "Bringing a Knife to a Gun Fight". I guess that's just mild, meaningless, rhetoric.
Pretty much. I've probably
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 9:41pm.
Pretty much. I've probably encounterd the cliche` at this website alone about a couple hundred times.
Jer
Yes, it is mild and means
Submitted by GregE on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 9:52pm.
Yes, it is mild and means nothing. Just like all the other nonsense the media has dug up and put out there as if all of us - you, me, everyone - are morons. I don't give a rats arse about Obama saying that, or much else in the world of metaphors. The media has shown themselves incapable of the same, regarding anyone not to their liking.
Gee I sure hope no one incites any violence during the upcoming presidential campaign when they inevitably mention "battleground states." Oh the horror!
GregE, remember Carlin's routine
Submitted by Agnostic on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 10:00pm.
Ever see Carlin's routine about the difference between baseball and football? I think that is what goes on in the heads of the media when the left attack they are just trying to go home and when the right do anything it is a tactical assult.
I agree, Greg...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 10:03pm.
But I bet it's been cited at least a dozen times here in just the past two days as a prime example of Obama's violent rhetoric.
Jer
If that's been considered
Submitted by GregE on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 10:07pm.
If that's been considered violent, I disagree. It's not.
More likely, it's been cited as something the media, in their dangerous game they started playing the moment they heard about the shots being fired, should include if they're going to play the nonsense they've been playing. I think I may have cited it yesterday, for that very reason, not because I didn't understand the metaphor.
Actually,Jer
Submitted by ant on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 1:27am.
I'm kinda partial to Obama's response on ACORN mobs; "I don't want to quell the anger. I think people are right to be angry! I'm angry!"
Gotta love the great post-racial unifier. I'm not trying to say both sides don't get angry but the media knows damn well they're complicit in vitriol just as they know the truth about the shooter and his issues but they insist on running with this narrative, not because it's true, but because it's an opportunity to get some of their desires accomplished.
Seriously, Jer
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 1:34am.
I'm kinda partial to Obama's direct appeal to Hispanics to treat Conservatives as "enemies".
That wasn't idle banter or cliche'. It was pure racist hatred.
Of course Liberals will see it differently.
ant..
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 1:45am.
Yes, I would have to concede it [post-racial unifying] is one of his failings so far--and a major disappointment. I'm not sure the prospects for success were ever particularly bright when the leader of the opposition party welcomes you into office by hoping for your failure. [I know--policies not personally. But it certainly didn't cultivate a collegial environment.]
But clearly Obama could and should have done a better job in this area. Maybe we'll see more effort in the future.
Jer
Perhaps
Submitted by panzerakc on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 2:02am.
his prospects for success would have been brighter if he hadn't started off by talking about "fundamentally transforming America".
Jer. in all honesty
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 2:04am.
In all honesty, Jer, can you not think of any political figure whom you hoped would fail?
I have to tell you, two years into this Presidency, I'm bothered by the absolute success this President has enjoyed thus far.
That's the difference between Jimmy Carter and Barack Obama. One was an unparalleled loser and the other is an absolute success.
A President? Two
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 2:20am.
A President? Two days before his inauguration? Not really.
For example, I was no Nixon fan by a long shot He never disclosed his 'secret plan' to end the Vietnam war prior to taking office. But, do you think I would hope for his failure and announce that hope to millions immediately before his inauguration? Of course I wouldn't.
Jer
OK, Jer
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 2:30am.
So you applaud the success of Hugo Chavez in Venezuela? Was it wrong for his constituents to hope he failed?
Not everybody agrees with your measure of success. Some of us measure in terms of the good of the people.
But I can in no way characterize Obama as a loser, given his policies are producing the effect he envisioned. He's found ways to force single payer, higher energy bills, increased government dependency.
I know these are lofty goals to the left, but they aren't things most of us want.
Good grief. It's the return
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 3:01am.
Good grief. It's the return of the Coolistic method: So you agree with Stalin murdering 20 million. Fair enough. But some of us think the mass slaughter of humans is wrong.
Too tired to play tonite. Maybe another time.
Jer
Call it a night, Jer---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 3:14am.
and get some rest. Cool's post didn't even come close to approximating your interpretation. MDOh yes it did. I've known
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 3:30am.
Oh yes it did. I've known Cool for a long time.
Jer
Oh no it didn't---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 4:10am.
and I don't "know" Cool outside of his posts. I am an open minded, fair, articulate, well bred, and boyishly charming individual who just may, might, possibly, have a trace, tinge, soupcon, or wisp of disdain for liberals; but anyone with the username Cool Arrow, must, by law, be a straight shooter. :o) MDEvidently you have mistaken
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 4:35am.
Evidently you have mistaken Cool for his brother, Straight Arrow. Cool is the master of the oblique. Clever and calculating. A riddler, but solvable.
Jer
Jeez, Jer!
Submitted by Newsbubba on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 12:01pm.
You might be less grumpy if you got more sleep. 3:35am?
bubba...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 1:57pm.
Tired, yes. Grumpy, no.
But I'll get plenty of sleep. We're iced in here. Can't go anywhere.
Jer
Don't sleep -- hibernate.
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 2:53pm.
Don't sleep -- hibernate.
Classic Howard Fineman statement:
Submitted by djwolf12 on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 2:03am.
Pickup trucks are racists.
Chrissy's Obsession with Bachmann...
Submitted by bigdaddy on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 9:30pm.
...is frightening. I wonder if it will ultimately lead to violence?
What's he going to do?
Submitted by GregE on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 9:40pm.
Rip off a piece o' tingle and whip her with it?
Ack, ack!
Submitted by panzerakc on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 11:50pm.
Somebody, quick, where can I sign up for a brainwashing to get that image out of my head??
(Actually I laughed until I cried. Thanks, Greg.)
"This is my rifle; this is my gun..."
Submitted by KyWriter on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 9:43pm.
"This is for fighting; this is for fun." Anyone who's ever served in the Corps knows what that means. Chrissy would never make it there; he would have only a rifle for comparison.
Chrissy has a pistol
Submitted by GregE on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 9:46pm.
......then when Obama speaks, Chrissy has a rifle.
Actually he was in the Corps......
Submitted by djwolf12 on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 9:51pm.
The Peace Corps
Was he a...
Submitted by bigdaddy on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 10:13pm.
"Corpseman"???
Clarification
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:58am.
Served in the Corps or seen the movie "Platoon."
Or went through Army basic
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 2:00pm.
Or went through Army basic training. At least that was the case at Ft. Campbell.
Jer
This story is eclipsing..
Submitted by Toast of the Town on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 10:32pm.
Who killed Ashley Turton and why?
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47367.html
Don't know Toast,
Submitted by rockyracoon on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 6:27am.
but I'm a might curious about this mystery as well. First it was John Wheeler, now it's Ashley Turton, both meeting a strange violent end. I sure am interested in more of the details surrounding this recent development. Something smells in the District of Columbia.
Facts are like kryptonite to the liberal.
Keep talking Chris...your
Submitted by Red Bill on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 10:35pm.
Keep talking Chris...your logic is but one more reason Republican roles are gaining and Democratic roles are losing.
I find it hilarious
Submitted by panzerakc on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 11:53pm.
that after all his bleating about "all this gun rhetoric", then Chris says people are going ballistic.
Lucky for Chris he is wrong
Submitted by ckc1227 on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 12:45am.
If Republicans were as gun-crazed and unbalanced as he implies, he would have been taken out a long time ago, and his little dog olberdouche too. Hey Chris, you do know it was one of YOUR colleagues that threatened to burn down the building you work in, don't you?
Here is another example where
Submitted by Ashrak on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 12:54am.
Here is another example where the situation in Illinois must be brought into the discussion. If bans and other regulations are the answer, then how do these folks proclaiming it to be the answer explain Chicago's shootings?
Illinois is stand alone as the only state where carrying is outright banned. It should be a model for the gun grabbers to champion, right? SO why don't they? Why aren't they checked on this point at every turn? I think it is because people don't know that carrying is totally illegal here. TIme to tell them, huh?
Isn't gun ownership highly
Submitted by Cowboy on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 1:16am.
Isn't gun ownership highly restricted in Mexico where they are constantly finding bodies?
Guns are restricted in Mexico...
Submitted by bigdaddy on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 2:23am.
...however, everyone has a machete...
Somebody , somewhere wrote, "
Submitted by ant on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 1:34am.
Somebody , somewhere wrote, " I wish it was Rep. Grijvala.."? Oh,no...what's..happening?...I......I can't...control....myself...no...I...must fight...it...I....the media....they...were right...oh..no.. can't stop..must go to.......Arizona....find....Grijvala.
banning weapons wont end ignorance
Submitted by TerryWest on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 3:15am.
The major factor they seem either afraid or refuse to deal with and confront is the lack of proper intervention even when the right flags were raised.
NYPD
Submitted by dbz77 on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 4:31am.
The NYPD is certainly gun-crazed.
they gunned down Amadou Diallo, Patrick Dorismond, and Sean Bell.
Tingles
Submitted by Scottyb4292 on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 6:18am.
Tingles famously used some language about Rush Limbaugh on his show in relation to a James Bond movie whereby Rush would have a CO2 gun shot in his face and he would blow up.
Tingles....What's up with that?
"Why are guns talked about so
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 8:46am.
"Why are guns talked about so much, especially on the right? Why?""
Because those on the left talk so much about eliminating the right for law abiding citizens to bear arms. You know that, Tingles.
The more they ( left wingers
Submitted by Barack_must_go..... on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 9:02am.
The more they ( left wingers ) lie.....the more they lose.
They still haven't ( even after the mid term election ) been able to accepted the fact that the American people aren't dumb even though they tell us we are.
Barack_Must_Go.....
He's right... We have more guns now than ever...
Submitted by DaveInNM on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 9:10am.
... and the result IS???
"FBI report murders down record 10% as gun & ammo sales reach record highs.
FBI Reports Huge Decrease In Murders As Firearm, Ammunition And “Large” Magazine Sales Soar Tuesday, December 29, 2009 Last week, the FBI issued its preliminary 2009 crime report, showing that the number of murders in the first half of 2009 decreased 10 percent compared to the first half of 2008.If the trend holds for the remainder of 2009, it will be the single greatest one-year decrease in the number of murders since at least 1960, the earliest year for which national data are available through the Bureau of Justice Statistics. Also, the per capita murder rate for 2009 will be 51 percent lower than the all-time high recorded in 1991, and it will be the lowest rate since 1963—a 46-year low. Final figures for 2009 will be released by the FBI next year.
According to gun control supporter dogma—“more guns means more crime”—the number of privately owned firearms must have decreased 10 percent in 2009. To the contrary, however, the number rose between 1.5 and 2 percent, to an all-time high. For the better part of the last 15 months, firearms, ammunition, and “large” ammunition magazines have been sold in what appear to be record quantities. And, the firearms that were most commonly purchased in 2009 are those that gun control supporters most want to be banned—AR-15s, similar semi-automatic rifles, and handguns designed for defense. The National Shooting Sports Foundation already estimates record ammunition sales in 2009, dominated by .223 Remington, 7.62x39mm, 9mm and other calibers widely favored for defensive purposes. Also indicative of the upward trend in firearm sales, the number of national instant check transactions rose 24.5 percent in the first six months of 2009 compared to the first six months in 2008, the greatest increase since NICS’ inception in 1998. Through the end of October, NICS transactions rose18 percent, compared to the same period in 2008." http://tinyurl.com/46njnc9 HOLY COW! Could this mean our Founding Father's were RIGHT to entrust the population with guns, and that this assassination attempt by a psychotic freak ISN'T the start of some growing trend towards greater gun violence in America? Could it be that MAYBE these hard left blowhards, now that their whole "blame the right" rhretoric has proven to be false, are USING this tragedy to try to further yet another part of their agenda? Naw... They would NEVER do something like THAT!
Sheriff Dupnik is the bad guy here.
Submitted by NL207 on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 10:17am.
Numerous accounts hold that Jared Loughner was well known Pima County Sheriff Dupnik and his deputies. He had made numerous telephone death threats to bloggers and school officals in the Tuscon area. These threats were reported and the Sheriff failed to file charges against Loughner. Loughner's mother is a Pima County employee, holding some sort of environmental administrative post with that government.
If this worthless Sheriff had been doing his job, Jared Loughner would have been either in jail or a psyche ward somewhere, prohibited from owning firearms, and not busy assassinating attendees at a political rally.
The MSM malpractice in this case is absolutely breathtaking.
Dupnik needs to be sued for negligence by the victims and their families and driven from office.
If mother Loughner can be shown to have influenced the Sheriff's or DA's offices from her perch within the Pima County Government, she should be removed and jailed.
He is so, so right!
Submitted by wizardjr on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 10:34am.
Come Friday night I can hardly wait to load up on guns and ammo and go rob a seven-eleven and then ride around pumping random rounds into houses in the ghetto. Yeah man, now that's so sweet I can get off on it!
Geez, what an asshat Chrissy is!
If you take out the gang bangers and suicides there is just not that much gun death in America. More kids die in swimming pools than from gun shots for instance. I can't think of a non-accidental gun death that isn't breaking several laws already on the books.
What's Chrissy going to say when someone gets offed with a frozen cow patty? How about all the knife deaths? What a crock.
We're all gun crazed, but you
Submitted by jdhawk on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:06am.
We're all gun crazed, but you can bet that Crissy has a bodyguard and he is packing.
Just like the hypocrite and gun control advocate Rosie O'Donnell. In this article it tells of her bodyguard not only packing but applying for a concealed gun permit. http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=1999
Would anyone dare ask Crissy about him being a hypocrite? Not from the lamestream media.
Assassins
Submitted by Andrew731984 on Wed, 01/12/2011 - 11:02pm.
If the US is a gun crazy nation, it's guns in the hands of liberals that scare me.