Reporting live from the Berlin Wall NBC's Tom Brokaw, on Monday's "Today" show, never once mentioned Ronald Reagan's name and his role in helping to end the Cold War, but did find time to praise Mikhail Gorbachev and "Today" co-anchor Matt Lauer even wondered if it was "a little egocentric" to look at the fall of the Wall as an "American victory," as seen in the following exchange:
MATT LAUER: I know, I think it may be a little egocentric but I think most Americans look at that event and they think of it as an American victory. When you talk to Germans today, do they view it that way?
TOM BROKAW: Well, they certainly think that the United States played a major role. But the real payoff came later when Germany was peacefully re-united. I said at a dinner last night, the remarkable thing is that no tanks rolled that day, no shots were fired, no East German leaders were hanged in the streets of East Berlin. And you have to give Mikhail Gorbachev a great deal of credit for that, Matt. Because he was in Moscow and he didn't send in the troops and he said to the East Germans, "You need to learn how to reform."[audio available here]
The following is the full segment as it was aired on the November 9, "Today" show:
MATT LAUER: Now to the fall of the Berlin Wall two decades later. Exactly 20 years ago today, the world watched as one of the most iconic symbols of the Cold War came crumbling down. And NBC's Tom Brokaw was the only network anchor there to witness it firsthand. This morning he's back in Berlin in front of the Brandenburg Gate. Tom, good morning. Nice to see you.
TOM BROKAW: Good morning, Matt. Well I'm 20 years older, a little grayer, a little heavier but very happy to be back here. And there will be ceremonies throughout the day, then tonight a real gala with Angela Merkel, who was born in East Germany, now the first woman chancellor of this country, presiding with Mikhail Gorbachev, Lech Walesa of Poland, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Sarkozy of France, a gathering of leaders past and present to acknowledge what was effectively the end of the Cold War, Matt.
LAUER: What's your most vivid memory from that day or those days?
BROKAW: Well, that it was so unexpected. I was at the news conference late the afternoon of that day when the announcement was made, almost inadvertently, by Gunther Shabowski. There was a lot of confusion. I ran upstairs where I had an interview with him and got him to spill it out again. It was broadcast throughout the GDR as East Germany was known in those days. And by about midnight that night, East Germans didn't wait for a visa. They just started pouring through the wall. And you really did have the very strong impression that we were witness to not just a historic moment but the collapse of the Soviet empire which came not too long after that. Really one of the most historic events not just of the 20th century but of the last 400 or 500 years. I also remember that the West German people were so welcoming. East Germans whose came across had so little. West Germans met them and gave sweets to the children, handed out German marks so that they could go buy things. And it was like people from Venus arriving in Mars. The worlds were so different.
LAUER: I know, I think it may be a little egocentric but I think most Americans look at that event and they think of it as an American victory. When you talk to Germans today, do they view it that way?
BROKAW: Well, they certainly think that the United States played a major role. But
the real payoff came later when Germany was peacefully re-united. I said at a dinner last night, the remarkable thing is that no tanks rolled that day, no shots were fired, no East German leaders were hanged in the streets of East Berlin. And you have to give Mikhail Gorbachev a great deal of credit for that, Matt. Because he was in Moscow and he didn't send in the troops and he said to the East Germans, "You need to learn how to reform." President Bush 41 stood with Helmet Kohl, with his grand idea of uniting this country. A lot of European leaders, including Margaret Thatcher, did not want it to have re-united because in the 20th century Germany had led the world into two world wars. There were great fears that could happen again. Now Germany is still trying to heal the wounds. People still think of themselves as being from the East Sector or from the West Sector. The Eastern Germans feel like they're the poor cousins here. They still have a long way to go in terms of getting this country fully pulled together again.
LAUER: Fascinating look back, Tom. Thank you very much. It's good to see you again.
BROKAW: Okay, Matt. Good to be here.
LAUER: Alright and Tom's gonna have much more from Germany tonight on NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams.
—Geoffrey Dickens is the senior news analyst at the Media Research Center.





the real payoff came later when Germany was peacefully re-united. I said at a dinner last night, the remarkable thing is that no tanks rolled that day, no shots were fired, no East German leaders were hanged in the streets of East Berlin. And you have to give Mikhail Gorbachev a great deal of credit for that, Matt. Because he was in Moscow and he didn't send in the troops and he said to the East Germans, "You need to learn how to reform." President Bush 41 stood with Helmet Kohl, with his grand idea of uniting this country. A lot of European leaders, including Margaret Thatcher, did not want it to have re-united because in the 20th century Germany had led the world into two world wars. There were great fears that could happen again. Now Germany is still trying to heal the wounds. People still think of themselves as being from the East Sector or from the West Sector. The Eastern Germans feel like they're the poor cousins here. They still have a long way to go in terms of getting this country fully pulled together again. 














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No, but it's egocentric
November 9, 2009 - 12:08 ET by Chris NormanNo, but it's egocentric for Lauer to ask if the US is "egocentric" - like he and the media see themselves as the "conscience" of the nation...
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
"give Mikhail Gorbachev a
November 9, 2009 - 12:11 ET by notonmywatch"give Mikhail Gorbachev a great deal of credit [because] he didn't send in the troops"
That's the foreign funded enemedia for you. Virtually no one in the country agrees with their crap, but they just keep banging it out, hoping it will stick.
The only thing that sticks is the impression of their propagandist nature.
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Freedom is a wonderful thing..
November 9, 2009 - 12:17 ET by upcountrywaterThe tanks did not roll in because the Soviet Union was BANKRUPT...
And it's a sad day for vain hussein, he loved the Soviet union...
That is why he did not show up.
State controlled health care ! music video.
Pardon my lack of elegance
November 9, 2009 - 12:23 ET by MPayneLauer = Ass
'Nuff said.
" Courage - a perfect sensibility of the measure of danger, and a mental willingness to endure it. " - William T. Sherman
Another Wacky Spin
November 9, 2009 - 12:23 ET by slickwillie2001Some loons claiming that the 'grass-roots peace movement' (although funded by the Soviet Union) brought down the wall. What next.
Who Brought Down the Berlin Wall? http://corner.nationalreview.com
Teachable Moments by Barack
November 9, 2009 - 12:27 ET by Jack BauerImagine, if you can, how the dear leader el Presidenee-for-Lfe Papa Doc Obama would have faced the implacable commies:
And let's not forget to
November 9, 2009 - 12:30 ET by Radical1979And let's not forget to throw in an apology for the U.S. for being mean to communists and people like Stalin...
US Apology
November 9, 2009 - 14:29 ET by Patrick MichaelAbsolutely right. That's why I am not upset with Obama for missing the ceremony, the apology would have probably sickened me for the rest of the week. And he probably would have botched the apology.
Stay Free!!!
A few things from this clip
November 9, 2009 - 12:38 ET by fitzfongA few things from this clip stand out to me:
1) Brokaw's self-reference. Nobody cares how gray his Aqua-Net hair has turned, no one is interested in how much weight he has gained. The fall of the Berlin Wall was not about Tom Brokaw.
2) Lauer's "ego-centric" comment. That's rich coming from a guy most notable for fetching Katie Couric's coffee and drycleaning...a guy who seems to think the sun rises and sets for his own personal glorification.
3) The obvious disrespect and resentment shown for Nicolas Sarkozy, the President of France. In listing the dignitaries, the blow-dried phony gave the courtesy of at least a first and last name (if not a full title) to everyone but Mr. Sarkozy, who he disrespectfully passes off as "Sarkozy of France". The arrogance and condescension is dripping from NBC's empty suit emeritus.
4) The suggestion that Gorbachev was due equal praise to Reagan for the fall of the Berlin Wall. Sorry, but that's like suggesting that Sonny Liston was due an equal share of the Heavy Weight Title with Muhammad Ali for getting his ass handed to him.
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Histor yhas a different ideal as to who did what where...
November 9, 2009 - 12:45 ET by AnkharanHistory says different Mr. Matt L.
This speech by President Ronald Reagan to the people of West Berlin contains one of the most memorable lines spoken during his president.
"General Secretary Gorbachev, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, if you seek liberalization: Come here to this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"
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Gorby had issued orders to
November 9, 2009 - 14:24 ET by celatorGorby had issued orders to the East German government to keep East Germans away from the Wall while Reagan made his speech. This was a few days before Reagan actually spoke at the Wall.
But on the day of the speech, East Germans gathered by the thousands at the Wall to hear and see Reagan. The East German police and Army began to beat up the East Germans gathered at the Wall, arresting some of them, etc.
Reagan was made aware of these actions and it infuriated him. His "advisers" cautioned him not to say anything that would make the East Germans angry, but he would have none of it.
And so he did the right thing, and said the words that championed liberty and have since echoed through history, and gave great courage to the East Berliners.
That's what a real President of the United States does.
No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.
Bastards
November 9, 2009 - 12:51 ET by sergeant stogieHow laughable. Gorbachev? Like he had a choice. How dare they not mention Reagan. As the saying goes, the silence was deafening.
The rise of Ronald
November 9, 2009 - 12:58 ET by MidAmericaThe rise of Ronald Reagan and the fall of the Soviet Union were sad events for the Left in this country. ....including the mentors of obama. I wonder why he is not attending.
Where's obama?
November 9, 2009 - 13:05 ET by ThisnThatI think Brokaw made a major gaffe here. "Gathering of Leaders". No mention of obama and his "much more important agenda". And is Brokaw explicitely pointing out that obama is not much of a leader because he didn't show up?
Just another example of obama voting "present". Even when he's not even present.
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What???????
November 9, 2009 - 13:05 ET by GeneralAlTOM BROKAW: Well, they certainly think that the United States played a major role. But the real payoff came later when Germany was peacefully re-united. I said at a dinner last night, the remarkable thing is that no tanks rolled that day, no shots were fired, no East German leaders were hanged in the streets of East Berlin. And you have to give Mikhail Gorbachev a great deal of credit for that, Matt. Because he was in Moscow and he didn't send in the troops and he said to the East Germans, "You need to learn how to reform."
We don't have to give this Commie credit for anything! If Reagan had caved to this idiot's demands, Germany would still be divided and the Soviet Union would still exist! I can't believe how these so called journalists can't even get a smigeon of the truth correct when it entails credit for someone they disdain!
Really, Mr. Brokaw?
November 9, 2009 - 16:22 ET by UnsaneFrom Frederick Taylor's Berlin Wall:
"Informed of the growing unrest in Saxony, on Sunday 8 October Mielke (Stasi Minister) issued a 'code red' alert which, in effect, gave his forces a 'licence to kill' in the streets. 'There has, the directive declared, 'been an aggravation of the nature and associated dangers of the illegal amss gatherings of hostile, oppositional, as well as further hostile-negative and rowdy-type forces aiming to disturb the security of the state...'
The order continued chillingly:
'I hereby order:
1. A state of full-alert according to Directive 1/89, Para. II, for all units until further notice. Members of permanently armed forces are to carry their weapons with them constantly, according to the needs of the situation...
'Sufficient reserve forces are to be held ready, capable of intervention at short notice even for offensive measures for the repression and breaking up of illegal demonstrations.'
The army had been placed on alert. Orders were given for a regiment of paratroopers to be moved close to Leipzig in case of trouble. On the evening of 9 October, the security forces, armed with live ammunition, were stationed in the side streets near the Nikolaikirche. Hospitals prepared for an influx of wounded."
Really, Tom? Indeed, it IS remarkable that no one died, but this was due to the fact that a few officers and commanders of the Volkspolizei realized a nasty fact: that eventually they were going to run out of bullets and when that happened nothing would save them.
Die Mauer fell in spite of the East German government, not because of them. And Gorbachev? Just because he kept the Soviet units in the barracks tells me nothing other than the fact that he knew they were done. Even Beria held East Germany in contempt and in fact called Walter Ulbricht (SED chair in East Germany from the founding to 1970, IIRC) an "idiot".
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TOM BROKAW: And you have to
November 9, 2009 - 13:26 ET by deerjerkydaveTOM BROKAW: And you have to give Mikhail Gorbachev a great deal of credit for that, Matt. Because he was in Moscow and he didn't send in the troops and he said to the East Germans, "You need to learn how to reform."
I think also the Soviets were all out of money and Grobachev knew it. They were probably all too happy to dump the liability and cost of controlling east Germany.
Lets see, who had to face
November 9, 2009 - 14:10 ET by kengieLets see, who had to face the rest of those mad leaders? ...who had the most to lose? who went where no man has gone before??? Mikhail Gorbachev..he was the real hero!
"He (Reagan) asked me what state Berlin was in" ~ Mikhail Gorbachev
Puh-leeze. That's like
November 9, 2009 - 14:21 ET by fitzfongPuh-leeze. That's like claiming that Al Cowlings was the hero in the O.J. Simpson chase. He tried to help the Juice escape through Mexico, got caught, so he turned around, went through the motions, and surrendered at Rockingham. Gorby inherited a failure, tried to carry that failure on, then surrendered when he had no other option.
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History deficient
November 9, 2009 - 16:34 ET by UnsaneNot only are you a cowardly drive-by poster, kengie, you also prove along with the rest of your Socialist ilk that you are horribly history deficient.
The only thing Gorbachev did was to keep Soviet troops in the barracks. The orders, as I describe above, were out for the East Germans to spill as much blood as possible to keep Honecker/Krenz/Modrow/etc in power. The SED had to be shoved off a cliff.
Reagan decided to actually face down the Soviets and this severely damaged them. The Soviets, for instance, thought it would be cool to deploy the SS-20s in the western Soviet Union and directly put a gun to the head of most Europeans. Reagan decided that if they would play that game, well hey, the Americans should deploy the GLCMs and Pershing IIs to Europe to show we mean business. The Soviets backed down and Gorbachev was forced to offer terms, by way of the INF Treaty. Why? Because Soviet force was countered with American force. Pure and simple.
This (and other such events) eventually forced the Communists' hand. I will admit that as a young man that I was not impressed by the Reagan speech of 12 June 1987; but in hindsight and with the aid of history, I can see why and how that speech was HUGE, because Reagan knew something the rest of us did not: that the Soviet Union and East Germany were virtually at Chapter 7 and just needed to be pushed off the cliff. East Germany was severely in hock and was facing severe cuts to its standard of living just to tread water. The Soviet Union was burning 25% of its GDP on the military and thus cutting their own throats.
If Gorbachev could have tried, he would still prefer to be lording it over the Soviet Union even if the Eastern European satellites were coughed up. But he unwittingly released a series of forces that were beyond his control, and as badly as he wanted to hold on to power, he could not. Just as the East Germans badly did and were run over by events. As Tom Clancy put it (paraphrasing), the East German leadership was dumb enough to believe that everyone genuinely loved them because the people turned out to the parades. But they were sure shocked when a horribly written message of bureaucratese led to the fall of die Mauer in November 1989.
Study your history before flapping your gums.
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Rewriting history
November 9, 2009 - 16:39 ET by American.Patriotto fit their world view is pretty disgusting but typical
Reagan gets credit for the downfall of the USSR
Let's make this clear
November 9, 2009 - 17:46 ET by talkradio55Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, and Pope John Paul II put an end to the evil empire of the Soviet Union. Gorbachev only went along with reform when Reagan said "The bombing commences in 5 minutes." He told Gorbachev to "tear down this wall." Gorbachev deserves no credit for the end of the Berlin Wall, but the same DemocRATS who wet themselves when Reagan called the Soviets evil, and who probably cried themselves to sleep when the wall came down are now handing credit to the man who was dragged kicking and screaming into ending this evil in Eastern Europe.
Liberalism is a lie unto itself.