NBC's Matt Lauer opened Monday's "Today" show worrying about the possible loss of a public option in Barack Obama's health care reform as he teased viewers at the start of the show: "Reining it in. As President Obama and his family tour the wild west, signs he may drop a key part of his health plan. Is he bowing to pressure from the Republicans and those shouters at town hall meetings?" Later on in the show Lauer pressed Howard Dean from the left, as the "Today" co-host asked the former Democrat Vermont Governor "Without the public option could you support reform?" and pried Dean about his concern that Obama would "compromise further than you'd like him to compromise?"
Lauer began the interview by defining the public option in the most favorable terms possible, terms the former DNC chair found quite acceptable:
MATT LAUER: Let, let's start by making sure people understand exactly what we're talking about when we say this public option. This is a government-run insurance agency that would give people greater choice, some say break the monopoly held by the private insurers and, thus, drive down costs. Is that fair?
Story Continues Below Ad ↓HOWARD DEAN: It is fair. And the best way to think about it is to think about it, is to think of it as Medicare or the Veterans Administration. These are two very good health care programs that exist already. They've been around for a long, long time. That's what we'd like to offer the public.
LAUER: Alright so now that we've done our job and defined it and described it, is it dead?
The following segment was aired on the August 17 "Today" show:
MATT LAUER: Howard Dean is the former governor of Vermont and former head of the Democratic National Committee. He made health care the centerpiece of his 2004 presidential campaign and he's authored a book on the topic, Howard Dean's Prescription for Real Health Care Reform. Governor good to see you. Good morning.
[On screen headline: "Doctor Dean, Is Obama Altering His Health Care Plan?"]
HOWARD DEAN: Matt, thanks for having me on.
LAUER: Let, let's start by making sure people understand exactly what we're talking about when we say this public option. This is a government-run insurance agency that would give people greater choice, some say break the monopoly held by the private insurers and, thus, drive down costs. Is that fair?
DEAN: It is fair. And the best way to think about it is to think about it, is to think of it as Medicare or the Veterans Administration. These are two very good health care programs that exist already. They've been around for a long, long time. That's what we'd like to offer the public.
LAUER: Alright so now that we've done our job and defined it and described it, is it dead?
DEAN: No. In fact, you really can't do health care reform without it. The health insurance companies have really put enormous pressure on both patients and doctors over the years. People are getting, losing their health insurance, can't get it back again if they have a pre-existing condition. Sometimes they even get kicked off their health insurance because they've become sick. What's going on in the health insurance industry is very much like what was going on, in my view, on Wall Street over the last eight years. People just basically taking money out of your pockets and putting it in theirs. None of that money goes to health care. And it's one, one of the reasons our, our insurance, I mean our health insurance industry is so inefficient.
LAUER: But I say is it dead, because you're listening, your listening to what the President and administration officials are saying over the past couple of days. Let me give you a contrast. Here's the President a month ago talking about reform. He says, "As I've said before, that one of the best ways to bring down costs, provide more choices and assure quality is a public option that will force the insurance companies to compete and keep them honest." Here's the President just three days ago, Quote, "All I'm saying is, though, that the public option, whether we have it or not, we don't have it, is not the entirety of health care reform. This is just one sliver of it. One aspect of it." Boy, you disagree with that, don't you?
DEAN: It well, it is the entirety of health care reform. It's not the entirety of insurance reform. And there are some things we did up here a long time ago in Vermont that the President wants to do and should do. But we shouldn't spend $60 billion a year subsidizing the health insurance industry. They don't need it. And the public option is a way of avoiding that. And the nice thing about the public option is it gives the public a choice. It's the public option. that is, you can choose what you have if you like it, or you can choose something different that can follow you everywhere you go. You can't be turned down, it doesn't cost more if you're sick than it does if you're healthy. And that's the public option.
LAUER: Yeah but, but without the public option could you support reform, Governor, or would you tell the President it's not worth spending?
DEAN: No...
LAUER: Go ahead.
DEAN: That's right. It's not worth spending the money. Just go ahead and do the insurance reform. That doesn't cost anything. We did that here. It's very, very successful, making them, making behave better but it won't get anybody else, many people insured. You're not gonna have real reform without some kind of public option, that's pretty clear.
LAUER: And do you think the President understands that or might he compromise further than you'd like him to compromise?
DEAN: Well, you know, this is a very interesting, what they would call in Japan a kabuki dance. Everybody has their role. We got to get this thing through the Senate. A lot of agonizing. The Senate's not back in session for another three weeks. When they get back in session then I think you'll see real movement. It's, honestly, Matt it's my judgment that what's gonna happen in the end is the Republicans are gonna not vote, have a single vote for this, no matter what the Democrats try to concede. And everybody is going to understand if you're gonna do this, you might as well do it right and the public option will be in the bill when the President signs it in December.
LAUER: So all the efforts for a bipartisan bill will, will go by the wayside anyway.
DEAN: Well I don't think. Yeah, I don't think the Republicans are interested. In order to have a bipartisan bill you got to have both sides interested.
LAUER: Exactly.
DEAN: And they're clearly not, judging what's going on in the last week or so.
LAUER: Governor Howard Dean. Governor, always good to see you, thanks very much.
DEAN: Thanks for having me again.
—Geoffrey Dickens is the senior news analyst at the Media Research Center.




















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whisky tango..
August 17, 2009 - 12:01 ET by katainkent"some say break the monopoly held by the private insurers "
Monopoly \Mo*nop"o*ly\, n.; : The exclusive power, or privilege of selling a commodity; the exclusive power, right, or privilege of dealing in some article, or of trading in some market; sole command of the traffic in anything, however obtained; as, the proprietor of a patented article is given a monopoly of its sale for a limited time; chartered trading companies have sometimes had a monopoly of trade with remote regions; a combination of traders may get a monopoly of a particular product.
apparently any pie the government doesn't have its fingers in is now a monopoly.
what a maroon.
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"The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax" - HR 3200 (Health Care Bill) Pg. 203. Ln 14 & 15
The propaganda machine is quickly back to work
August 17, 2009 - 12:00 ET by DJEddleLauer: "This is a government-run insurance agency that would give people greater choice, some say break the monopoly held by the private insurers and, thus, drive down costs. Is that fair?"
No, it's a damn lie!
Really...who actually watches these clowns and believes what they hear? I'm starting to feel sorry for those incompetents that do not know the difference between truth and propaganda.
Well...maybe I don't feel sorry for them. I may just be disgusted by them. Either way, they ought to figure it out eventually, right?
Lauer...what a tool!
Rational Liberty: Where Reason and Government Collide - The best website ever!
Gnat Liar...
August 17, 2009 - 12:37 ET by Apodictic... is a drooling idiot who is annually paid millions to propagandize the American public. He's a metrosexual media fairy, and the quintessential image of New Yorkers.
Gnat Liar...
August 17, 2009 - 15:20 ET by adamsmithThey're all really hopelessly stupid and brainwashed. I mean think about Gnat. He was a jounalism major. He was a fairly decent looking guy. Got a job reading a teleprompter, which makes him a genius in his own mind. Truth is he's no expert on anything except bald spot reducing creams. Everyone looks up to these talking heads like they're experts, while they don't know jack.
What he should talk about if he had any kind of a brain in his balding head is,"Well since Social Security is a similar government entitlement and is $40 TRILLION in the red in unfunded debt, and Medicare is another similar government program that likewise is another $40 TRILLION in the red in unfunded debt, why should we believe the government will do this and not end up with another failure that threatens the national security of this country by making us financially unsound".
That's what he should be asking if he was a real journalist rather than a corporate puppet...Just my two cents.........
The problem is...
August 17, 2009 - 17:30 ET by Indiana JoeAll the idiots who believe guys like this can vote.
Witness the last election.
"Of those men who have overturned the liberties of republics, the greatest number have begun their career by paying an obsequious court to the people, commencing demagogues and ending tyrants." - Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 1
Frett not, Matt Liar, your precious "government option"
August 17, 2009 - 12:49 ET by R D Helm...(and let's be honest here, that is what it really is) is as snug as a bug in a rug.
Your fellow Marxist friends in D.C. are just going to call it some sort of public-private co-op thingy or other, to make it more palatable to the dumbMasses.
At the end of the day, it will still mean the eventual takeover of our nation's health care system by the same federal government that couldn't even run a whorehouse in Nevada.
-Dave
Been Flagged yet? If not, try harder.
LOL
August 17, 2009 - 12:55 ET by StarAZDumbMasses--I am stealing that.
"...couldn't even run a whorehouse in Nevada."
August 17, 2009 - 17:32 ET by Indiana JoeAnd I'm stealing that!
;^)
"Of those men who have overturned the liberties of republics, the greatest number have begun their career by paying an obsequious court to the people, commencing demagogues and ending tyrants." - Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 1
we already tried this concept,Matt
August 17, 2009 - 12:05 ET by candanceIt's called Freddie Mac - you know, a government safety net that would allow mortgage providers to give better service?
These people wake up every morning with amnesia.
It's not amnesia, it's
August 17, 2009 - 12:24 ET by mattmIt's not amnesia, it's dedication to socialism.
dedication to der leader
August 17, 2009 - 15:10 ET by MozillaIt's bliind dedication to der leader Obama and his teleprompter. Along with blind following of DNC talking points. They have been brainwashed into following whatever he says.They have become robots with preprogammed jargon they have to say.
Apparently, "the one" isn't ...
August 17, 2009 - 12:08 ET by SentryDanApparently, "the one" obama isn't as good a constitutional lawyer as he tries to make us believe. Otherwise, he would know that everything he has done thus far has been against the authority given to the federal government.
And the left accused President Bush of abusing his authority. What a bunch of maroons!
"We the People" need to get rid of these bums using all legal means available.
Remember folks, Freedom isn't Free. It was bought with the blood and sacrifice of the men and women who are serving and who have served in the U.S. Armed Forces.
For those who fought for it, Freedom has a flavor that the protected will never know.
Also remember folks, that the way to SUPPORT THE TROOPS is to support their mission. Anyone who says that they support the troops but don't support their mission is lying about supporting the troops. And if you want to know, yes I do have a dog in the fight, he is a United States Marine.
A rhetorical query: How hard
August 17, 2009 - 12:13 ET by Mike SargentA rhetorical query:
How hard do you have to work to get to the left of Howard Dean?
LOL Mike,
August 17, 2009 - 13:45 ET by UpNorthit would be an all day job, and you had better bring a lunch. I don't think anyone, with maybe the exception of Bernie Sanders, I-Communism, is left of Y-E-E-A-A-R-G-H Dean.
Shut up, Lauer...
August 17, 2009 - 12:24 ET by SickofLibsLauer's paycheck is $259,615 PER WEEK ($13.5 million/yr). Maybe he should start his own insurance company and subsidize a few hundred thousand people, STFU and leave the rest of us alone.
No mattie
August 17, 2009 - 12:24 ET by Willis_Leon_JohnsonThis is the best way to make 100 perent of the American People DEPENDENT on the federal government.
A persons medical records, compiled with their voter registration would give the ruling party the ability to weed out the opposition.
An ability that Hitler DID NOT HAVE.
http://gjresult.com
think of it like this.....
August 17, 2009 - 12:35 ET by CatherwoodI have good health insurance through my employer, but on occasion I have had to call my insurance company in order to straighten out some bill or erroneous fee, i.e. one time I was charged for an ambulance ride which I never took ($865). The experience was a nightmare. I spent more than 30 minutes on hold on three separate occasions before giving up and trying another day. When I finally did reach a real person, she informed me that her report indicated that I had ridden in an ambulance and that the only way to have the charge removed was to contact the ambulance service. I called the ambulance service and the people there had no record of me riding in one of their ambulances. They advised that I call the insurance company back and find out the name of the ambulance company. I did. They told me the ambulance company was, indeed, the one I had just spoken to. I called that company back......and, well, you get the idea. It was a never ending, snake eating its tail nightmare. Finally, I just refused to pay. Some nasty people called me and threatened me with all kinds of credit nightmares if I didn't pony up. I told them I never rode in the ambulance; they said I did. They did try and ruin my credit, but I owed no one else in the world any money and have plenty of money of my own, so it did not matter to me what they did. I say all this because I want you to now imagine something: throw the US government into the above picture....what do you see? Do you think the government could have made a difference, or would the government have made a bad nightmare even worse? Personally, I have never known of a government agency which really mady anything better......
Re Ambulance
August 17, 2009 - 14:19 ET by slickwillie2001Under Obamacare, desposit and withdrawal access is required to all personal bank accounts, as well as access to your financial records. They want this under the excuse that direct deposit and withdrawal will be much more efficient. So under Obamacare the $865 disappears from your bank account before you know anything has gone wrong. Then you end up arguing with a bureaucracy as evil as the IRS which might even be worse that a private company, but my point is that they get the money first.
If you argue that you can't afford it, they would look at your tax returns, your stockbroker account, your annual income and then they will tell you whether you can afford it or not.
Do we really want a government that sends stimulus checks to 8,000 dead people to have direct withdrawal access to our bank accounts?
Bank Acct. info
August 17, 2009 - 22:53 ET by merlin61And, where, pray tell do they get info from when people don't have checking accts or savings accts.
The majority of his downtrodden people don't believe in bank accounts, they only go to currency exchanges to cash their welfare checks. Oh, of course, how stupid of me. They don't have to worry, they'll get everyhing for free. (That is, from us taxpayers paying more taxes.) Silly me.
To the three above
August 17, 2009 - 23:03 ET by bigtimerTo the three above posters...
Ditto and thank you...it's late, been a long day, you all summed so much up in a nutshell, this is exactly what is going in, they think none of us know.
Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh
138 is monopoly now?
August 17, 2009 - 12:54 ET by JWFThat is the number of carriers I heard thrown around.
A search on Manta comes up with this -
We have 1,296 company profiles for Health Insurance Carriers Companies in the United States. Refine your list of companies to find free company profile information and research reports.
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Medical insurance plans from over 180 leading health insurance companies nationwide.
Answers.com has list by state. I can't count that high. I will just guesstimate - a buttload
Ad on Google.
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I don't watch the Today show
August 17, 2009 - 12:59 ET by d1carterI don't watch the Today show anymore (or any NBC shows) and this confirms my decision. Did Matt give Dean a big slobbering kiss at the end?
Me too
August 17, 2009 - 13:07 ET by SickofLibsI always try to watch the Today Show tomorrow, but it never works out.
But then again, I once put instant coffee into the microwave and almost went back in time.
Comedians
August 17, 2009 - 13:28 ET by saw the lightSomeone's a fan of Steven Wright!
Sincerely,
Bucky Goldstein
"I think that when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody." Barack Obama to "Joe the Plumber"
Correctimundo...
August 17, 2009 - 13:43 ET by SickofLibsNobody is better than Steven Wright!
One of my faves:
"My mechanic told me, "I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder."
SOL -- oh man, Wright is one
August 17, 2009 - 13:46 ET by Jack BauerSOL -- oh man, Wright is one funny dude. Made your horn louder. Hilarious.
The Fonz?
August 17, 2009 - 13:50 ET by Georgia GirlCorrectimundo -- that's "Happy Days," right? ^_^
GG:
August 17, 2009 - 13:56 ET by SickofLibsWell, to be correctimundo, I think it was exactamundo!
Thumbs up...
August 17, 2009 - 14:01 ET by Georgia GirlAaaaaaa! :)
Stephen Wright
August 17, 2009 - 17:38 ET by Indiana Joe"I used to live on a one-way dead-end street."
"I used spot remover on my dog, now I can't find him."
"I have a full-scale map of the world, maybe you've seen it."
"Of those men who have overturned the liberties of republics, the greatest number have begun their career by paying an obsequious court to the people, commencing demagogues and ending tyrants." - Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 1
"I woke up one morning, and all of my stuff had been stolen
August 17, 2009 - 17:50 ET by SickofLibs"I woke up one morning, and all of my stuff had been stolen and replaced by exact duplicates."
BTW, do not attempt to use any Wright quotes with the Troll Squad - they will only attempt to debate you on them.
Debating SW with the Troll Squad...
August 17, 2009 - 17:54 ET by Indiana JoeNow, THAT'S funny! LMAO!
"Of those men who have overturned the liberties of republics, the greatest number have begun their career by paying an obsequious court to the people, commencing demagogues and ending tyrants." - Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 1
I quit when it became
August 17, 2009 - 15:20 ET by MozillaI quit when it became obvious the show was more infotainment than anything else and issues not germaine to real news. Plus they are leftist, radical, and promote DNC talking points. And I was not surprised at all the fawining for Obama and Michelle on the show.
TV HACK
August 17, 2009 - 13:06 ET by MrShyIs he bowing to pressure from the Republicans and those shouters at town hall meetings?
Shouters? Shouters?????
Protesters, you partisan leftist Obamaboy hack of a ..... a.... whatever you are.
Protesters. Protesters. Protesters. PROTESTERS.
Got it? Not shouters. Protesters.
Monopolies
August 17, 2009 - 13:06 ET by shooterOnly a socialist like Lauer would describe a segment of our free-market capitalist system comprised of corporations as a "monopoly."
What's the next "monopoly?"
Drug stores, like Walgreens?
Retail stores, like Wal-Mart?
Building supply stores, like Home Depot?
Where would the socialists' denigration of free-market capitalism end?
Answer: It wouldn't end.
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"An armed society is a polite society" -- Robert A. Heinlein
The Dean of Stupidville College
August 17, 2009 - 13:17 ET by Jack BauerNo. It's economically illiterate though.
What frackin' monopoly? Does this dimwit understand what a monopoly is?
Private companies have a natural tendency to aggregate towards a monopoly. Adam Smith understood this, which is why he was in favor of regulation to stop the detrimental effect on a free enterprise system.
So there is competition. There is no monopoly.
However, if a "government" were to "compete" with private companies, then this would be unfair competition as the government is both a supplier and a regulator.
They would, in time, inevitably drive private companies out of the market as they aggregated towards an inevitable GOVERNMENT monopoly.
It's even more insidious than that. The government so-called "choice" would eventually be paid for out of general taxation. So it wouldn't matter whether you choose a private insyrance policy because you'll end up funding both.
Just look at the UK. Citizens have to pay a National Insurance (Pay roll tax) based on income which was supposed to fund the NHS.
This fantasy was blown decades ago, and Income Tax is used to fund ther NHS.
BUT if you wanted to arrange your own private health insurance, you can. However... you still pay your taxes, and you get NO tax breaks for private healthcare.
See how this works to the detriment of competition and "choice". The opposite of what Dean blahs.
Oh -- and Howard Dean is just an irrational ignorant tool. Glad he ain't my Doctor.
Slightly OT
August 17, 2009 - 13:34 ET by BKeyserbut I'm looking for critique on my newest photoshop. Comments?
Obama Flops? Footwear I
August 17, 2009 - 13:49 ET by Jack BauerObama Flops? Footwear I can believe in!
Keyser,
August 17, 2009 - 13:50 ET by UpNorththat one is just too good!!! Only left foot flip-flops. Gonna have to order mine through Brooks Brothers.
BKeyser~
August 17, 2009 - 13:54 ET by Georgia GirlOh my -- that's hysterical!!
Thanks Jack, Up, and GG
August 17, 2009 - 13:59 ET by BKeyserconsider it public domain- I just enjoy putting these silly things together when I've got some free time.
Excellent, BK!
August 17, 2009 - 13:58 ET by SickofLibscheck out http://www.thepeoplescube.com/
...off-the-hook photoshopping
You got that right!
August 17, 2009 - 14:01 ET by BKeysermy talents don't even come close!
As soon as.....
August 17, 2009 - 14:36 ET by pantrymananyone mentions 'government-run' , you just KNOW that it will end up being a class A bureaucratic cluster-fuc*....
As anyone who has ever used VA benefits will attest...what a dumb assed example to use.
I am so damn sick of the lying MSM.
Private Industry Monopoly?
August 17, 2009 - 15:55 ET by Al_Idaho"This is a government-run insurance agency that would give people greater choice, some say break the monopoly held by the private insurers and, thus, drive down costs. Is that fair? "
If this isn't socialist, nothing is. The MSM has been drooling over this for years, and the legislature may have arrogance enough to push it through.....
Howard Dean
August 17, 2009 - 17:17 ET by buddycI hope Lauer has him on every single morning. It marginalizes Lauer and democrats.
MATT LAUER: Let, let's
August 17, 2009 - 17:35 ET by SvenMATT LAUER: Let, let's start by making sure people understand exactly what we're talking about when we say this public option. This is a government-run insurance agency that would give people greater choice, some say break the monopoly held by the private insurers and, thus, drive down costs. Is that fair?
Matt, this denial that you and the rest of your buddies in the MSM are engaging in is not helping your cause.
Matt, there are many, many different insurance companies out there currently...people already have a choice! There is NO monopoly dipshi*!
Matt can you explain to us how having JUST the Government option will create "greater choice?" Obama and the Dems will effectively run all other insurance compnaies out of business!
What a dope!
""This is a government-run
August 17, 2009 - 22:53 ET by ckc1227""This is a government-run insurance agency that would give
people greater choice, some say break the monopoly held by the private
insurers and, thus, drive down costs. Is that fair?"
No, it's not fair, it's dumb. It's like arguing that airlines have a monopoly on air travel, or car dealers have a monopoly on cars, or fast food restaurants have a monopoly on fast food.
Hey Matt, stop using fancy words that you and Howard Dean don't understand.
Monopolies
August 17, 2009 - 23:26 ET by ReaganJrLauer is a paid wordsmith. He should recognize the use of a plural and a singular. He said "insurers" - plural - when refering to a monopoly. Mono is one, a singularity.
You cannot break a monopoly when there is a plurality of insurers. And the end result of Obamacare will in all actuality lead to a monopoly, only they are calling it "single payer" and then denying that they are calling it "single payer" all at the same time.
I guess logic never made sense to liberals and now neither does grammer.