NBC's Matt Lauer, on Tuesday's "Today" show, invited on Robert Gibbs to preview Barack Obama's town hall meeting on health care and warned the White House press secretary that it could become a "Super Bowl for shouters." In a segment headlined: "Town Hall Tensions, Obama Battles Health Care Outrage," Lauer, given all the "tension" at the meetings, worried about the President of the United States being shouted down:
MATT LAUER: Let me start with a blunt question. Is this a good idea? I mean, you're gonna send the President out there in a town hall forum and two more later in the week. This will, in some ways, become the Super Bowl for these shouters.
ROBERT GIBBS: Yeah.
LAUER: They're gonna get a chance to shout down the President of the United States. They've got nothing to lose, but the President certainly does. Doesn't he?
A little later in the interview Lauer granted that protestors "may give voice" to "real concerns" about health care reform but noted they may do it "in an inappropriate way." Lauer then went on to comment that once "you take the shouting out of it," Obama faced opposition from within his own party but feared that, that could lead to "health care reform-lite."
LAUER: Well if you take, if you take, if you take the shouting out of it, the President still has some problems on health care reform within his own party. There are a lot of Democrats who think this is too big and too costly. Is he going to, he's already had to put off the vote. Is he gonna have to make so many concessions over the coming weeks and months perhaps that we're gonna get something akin to health care reform-lite?
Before the Gibbs interview NBC's Chuck Todd played up the "rage" theme as he intoned: "And now with rage, all the rage, at town hall meetings, President Obama's health care forum today could be one interesting spectacle."
The following are Todd's set-up piece followed by Lauer's interview with Gibbs as they were aired on the August 11, "Today" show:
MEREDITH VIEIRA: President Obama comes face-to-face today with both supporters and opponents of his plan to revamp the nation's health care system. NBC's chief White House correspondent Chuck Todd is in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, where the President is holding a town hall forum. Good morning to you, Chuck
[On screen headline: "Town Hall Tensions, Obama Battles Health Care Outrage."]
CHUCK TODD: Well good morning, Meredith. Well, as you know, New Englanders take the town hall meeting very seriously, and here in New Hampshire, they're almost professionals at dealing with town halls. And now with rage, all the rage, at town hall meetings, President Obama's health care forum today could be one interesting spectacle. The often rancorous debate over the health care debate followed the President all the way to Guadalajara, Mexico, where Mr. Obama tried to stay above the fray.
BARACK OBAMA: We are having a vigorous debate in the United States, and I think that's a healthy thing.
TODD: Vigorous may be an understatement. Many members of Congress have seen their local town hall meetings turn into shouting matches.
UNIDENTIFIED MAN: This is not health reform! This is control! Control over our lives!
TODD: At his town hall Georgia Democrat David Scott shot back.
REP. DAVID SCOTT: Not a single one of you had the decency to call my office and set up for a meeting. Okay? Then do that!
TODD: New York Democrat Scott Murphy took the high ground.
REP. SCOTT MURPHY: This is what's great about our community is that we have different opinions.
TODD: While South Carolina Republican Bob Inglis placed the blame on cable news, specifically Fox News channel personality Glenn Beck.
UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: I'm afraid of Obama.
REP. BOB INGLIS: Why are you afraid?
UNIDENTIFIED MAN: He's a socialist!
INGLIS: A good suggestion up here, the suggestion was Glenn Beck, here's what I'd suggest. Turn that television off when he comes on.
TODD: And as the President prepares for his own town hall today there is at least one local New Hampshire Republican group putting out a Facebook invitation to a protest against what they call President Obama's, quote, "plan for a government takeover of your healthcare decisions." The White House is pushing back offering a quote, "reality check" on its own Web site, whitehouse.gov. And the President on Monday joked about one of the myths he's been fighting, turning American health care into something like Canada's single-payer system.
OBAMA: I don't find Canadians particularly scary, but I guess some of the opponents of reform think that they make a good boogeyman.
TODD: Meanwhile Congressional Democrats have set up their own town hall war room in House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer's office. Hoyer's Monday USA Today op-ed, written with Speaker Nancy Pelosi, has drawn fire for calling come of these protests un-American. Now, Matt, the President today is gonna tailor his remarks, and you're gonna hear the phrase "health insurance reform" a lot. And he's gonna emphasize how his plan is designed to prevent insurance companies from dropping folks with pre-existing conditions. Also, don't be surprised if the President reaches out and tries to, to deal with this rage that we've been seeing today at today's town hall.
MATT LAUER: Alright Chuck thanks very much. Chuck Todd in New Hampshire for us this morning. Robert Gibbs is the White House press secretary. Robert, good to see you.
ROBERT GIBBS, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: Matt, how are you?
LAUER: I'm doing well. Thanks very much. Let me start with a blunt question. Is this a good idea? I mean, you're gonna send the President out there in a town hall forum and two more later in the week. This will, in some ways, become the Super Bowl for these shouters.
GIBBS: Yeah.
LAUER: They're gonna get a chance to shout down the President of the United States. They've got nothing to lose, but the President certainly does. Doesn't he?
GIBBS: Oh, I think we all have something to lose, Matt, if we let cable television come to town hall meetings and kill health care reform for another year, and put the special interests back in charge. Understand, Matt, I've been to probably 500 town hall meetings with Barack Obama dating back five years. I've never been to one where everybody agreed with everything he said. He's happy to engage the people that don't support this, and, and try to convince them of what he's trying to do. But more importantly, to give everybody the information they need to understand that health care reform can work for them. Specifically, as Chuck mentioned today, he'll be introduced by somebody who's been discriminated against in trying to buy insurance-
LAUER: Right.
GIBBS: -because they had a pre-existing condition.
LAUER: But-
GIBBS: 12 million Americans over the past three years have been discriminated against on that pre-existing condition alone-
LAUER: But I want to go back-
GIBBS: That's gotta stop.
LAUER: I want to go back, Robert, to what you said a second ago. You said, "You can't allow cable television to come into these things." Isn't that underestimating what you're hearing? I mean there are some people who say, yeah, these people are getting up and shouting do not represent any grassroots movement. They call them Astroturf. But don't they give voice, and maybe even in an inappropriate way, to some real concerns out there?
GIBBS: Oh look Matt, dissent is part of the American tradition. I think what is unproductive though if somebody tries to come to a town hall meeting and you can't ask your question or your mother can't ask her question, because somebody else is yelling. That's what cable TV and the food fight brings to this. I think what people want to hear are solutions for how we're gonna improve health care reform. That's what Barack Obama wants to do. How do we cut costs for families? How do we save small businesses from the crushing cost of health care? And how do we ensure that if you go to buy insurance today, you're not discriminated against by an insurance company based on a pre-existing condition.
LAUER: If you-
GIBBS: Those are questions that people want answers to. They don't want to see people yell. We can discuss these issues like civilized people. At least that's what I tell my six-year-old.
LAUER: Well if you take, if you take, if you take the shouting out of it, the President still has some problems on health care reform within his own party. There are a lot of Democrats who think this is too big and too costly. Is he going to, he's already had to put off the vote. Is he gonna have to make so many concessions over the coming weeks and months perhaps that we're gonna get something akin to health care reform-lite?
GIBBS: No, what we're going to get, what the President has said time and time again is, we have certain principles that have to be met. We're not interested in signing something and then hoping that people call it reform. We have to cut costs for people, for families. Cut costs for small businesses. Institute these common sense insurance reforms, and ensure that millions of people can have access to affordable insurance so that we're not burdening the system with millions of people that are, that don't have care but are going to the emergency rooms. And, Matt, you and I and everybody pay for that.
—Geoffrey Dickens is the senior news analyst at the Media Research Center.




















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"Going about it the wrong
August 11, 2009 - 11:52 ET by mattm"Going about it the wrong way?"
The people were INVITED to the town hall meetings. They asked questions of their representatives who told them it's pointless to read the bill and refused to answer, or deliberately lied to their constituents.
I think these hypocrites would shout if they were treated this way.
oh please
August 11, 2009 - 11:56 ET by candanceLike Obama has ever let opponents confront him in a town hall. We'll get more sob stories from little old ladies who just conveniently happen to work for his campaign committees. Then he'll take a question from Huffington Post, recount a letter he recieved from a 'concerned citizen' who is in no way connected to SEIU, and then top if off by accusing a random white person of being racist.
No kidding, candance.....as
August 11, 2009 - 12:34 ET by motherbeltNo kidding, candance.....as if he's going to get shouted down at a town hall with his Select Audience
MSNBC
August 11, 2009 - 12:38 ET by katainkentanchors were discussing this "I... I think he's going to allow... detractors into this..." (paraphrased)
allow? This transparency thing is a crock.
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this is so boring
August 11, 2009 - 12:40 ET by candanceAfter each question he's allowed to filibuster for 5-10 minutes unchallenged.
I haz no tv :)
August 11, 2009 - 12:45 ET by katainkentand I don't feel like streaming c-span. I'll pick up the lowlights off YT later.
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You took the words right out of my mouth
August 11, 2009 - 13:11 ET by kg"DumbAssity of Dope"
I couldn't even make it thru the first 10 minutes
August 11, 2009 - 12:48 ET by SickofLibsTurn off the sound and it's same old sh*t: the great orator prancing around with his hand-selected drooling peanut gallery clapping and smiling in the background behind him.
Funny, didn't see any purple shirts, though.
He made one statement that did not immediately draw instant applause, so he pauses, then says "Come on...", basically begging the crowd to clap. Which of course they did.
Candance...excellent job on
August 11, 2009 - 14:36 ET by celatorCandance...excellent job on your coverage of Obama's hootenanny in Portsmouth.
Howie Carr on WRKO in Boston is now talking to callers who attended the meeting. The callers are reporting that there were about SEVEN BUSSES of AFL-CIO and SIEU union people brought in beginning about 9 am. All were fed etc. Huge numbers of Planned Parenthood, global warming idiots and other similar groups.
People who were not part of the union group were yelled at, called names (racist, un-American, etc.) by union members. All the union people were paid.
This was staged from beginning to end, as we all know.
No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.
I noticed that subtly, celator
August 11, 2009 - 14:49 ET by candanceAs mentioned below, at least two questioners were public school employees, and my first thought was they probably belong to teachers' unions.
Even the clapping was quiet, almost demure. No one wanted to seem emotional. They wanted to give off an image of being sophisticated and intellectual. I also noticed the old guy who claimed to be a Republican seemed really nervous.
I suspect the "free tickets" were conveniently dispersed at locations where Obama supporters could grab them. And how fortunate that calling on people spontaneously would result in the perfect line of questions to address all of his points without anyone backtracking to demand a follow-up.
No way that was an honest sample of the American public.
Kabuki Town Hall
August 11, 2009 - 11:58 ET by JustAlThis should be quiet a show ala Kabuki theater, all parts; the stoic, polite union folk, and the knuckle dragging, violence prone, barely articulate conservatives. . . all played by pre-screened, hand picked Obamabots.
Of course the media will showcase it as the brave chairman staring down danger to sooth, convert, and convince the unwashed masses.
I predict something pathetic here.
"Obama stills the stormy
August 11, 2009 - 12:06 ET by Chris Norman"Obama stills the stormy waters of debate surrounding his healthcare reform"
I can just see it now...
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Storm?
August 11, 2009 - 12:50 ET by SickofLibsIt's gonna be a tsunami.
Kabuki....just(perfect))Al
August 11, 2009 - 12:08 ET by BlondeI just called it "stage-managed to a turn".
But your phrase is better.
Just once I wish the prompter would break on the very day we finally managed to sneak in some "real" people into ObamaTheatre to ask non-planted questions.
As if.
I hope he fails, too.
It's looking like it is
August 11, 2009 - 12:13 ET by Scuba DudeIt's looking like it is going to be a plant show.
Planted people with planted questions.
The Obama Administration: THE most fiscally irresponsible Administration EVER
"Is he gonna have to make
August 11, 2009 - 12:03 ET by Chris Norman"Is he gonna have to make so many concessions ... that we're gonna get something akin to health care reform-lite? "
Notice how Lauer asks questions, not from the perspective of a reporter, but from one of a supporter who will be disappointed?
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Reporter,
August 11, 2009 - 12:18 ET by motherbeltReporter, supporter....what's the difference? LOL
Lauer is Like Processed Cheese
August 11, 2009 - 12:14 ET by allanf.. packaged, homogenized, Pasturized and predictable. No point in watching, we already know the Matts act.
But, unlike
August 11, 2009 - 12:25 ET by Chris NormanBut, unlike Lauer, cheese can be delightful, tangy, sweet, and smooth, enhancing any sandwich it goes on. :)
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
"Superbowl for shouters?". LOL, that's funny...
August 11, 2009 - 12:29 ET by jazboin its infantility.
"Democrats; Breeding voters like farm animals since 1962"
first question
August 11, 2009 - 12:31 ET by candance-Medicare is awesome.
-Republicans are stupid.
second question
August 11, 2009 - 12:35 ET by candanceA 12 year old girl asks him why TEA partiers are so mean.
Disruption Nonsense
August 11, 2009 - 12:36 ET by slickwillie2001All of this 'shouting' and 'disruption' meme is being pushed by the liberal old media to suit the democratics. In a townhall meeting that lasts an hour or two, we are only being shown a few-second 'highlight' as selected by the old media, including Fox News. There are probably very good questions being asked, and very embarrassing answers from representatives and senators, that we are not seeing.
We are being spun.
third question
August 11, 2009 - 12:47 ET by candanceEvil insurance companies tried to stop me from getting a brand-name drug.
Obama's answer involves lowering the amount of time a drug can be patented. No mention of lowering the amount of research required or the liability of a producer if a drug ends up killing people. THAT'S the reason for long-term patents.
Once again Obama is either stupid or dishonest.
I Know!
August 11, 2009 - 12:54 ET by JustAlWe will just short cut all of that icky science stuff by using computer models like the Gorebull warming cult! If you consider that using a little over a century's worth of somewhat modern although inconsistently gathered data is enough to "settle" climate change over all of geologic time. . . then we should be able to develop, qualify, and QC a major drug by testing one pill!
I will take my Nobel now (but could I get it as a multi year pay out for tax purposes????)
fourth question
August 11, 2009 - 12:44 ET by candanceAnother Medicare lover asks for more Medicare awesomeness.
Fifth Question
August 11, 2009 - 12:47 ET by JustAlEighty year old obviously on meds, "But why can't I go on the cart????"
Obama's town hall?
August 11, 2009 - 12:48 ET by billbI've never seen a town hall with people BEHIND the speaker! I've watched for 5 minutes now, and he stated that he, "wants to be perfectly clear" at least 5 times.
I've never heard such directionless rambling!
Whenever Obama says "let me
August 11, 2009 - 12:52 ET by Scuba DudeWhenever Obama says "let me be perfectly clear" it is the moment he is going to tell a lie.
The Obama Administration: THE most fiscally irresponsible Administration EVER
Gosh, scoob
August 11, 2009 - 12:55 ET by BlondeI know he's lying even without the tell....anytime his lips move.
I hope he fails, too.
I'd love to play poker with the 0
August 11, 2009 - 12:59 ET by RESTLESS 1The 0: "Let me be clear. I am not bluffing. I have the high hand."
Restless 1: "All in."
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
fifth question
August 11, 2009 - 12:50 ET by candanceAn old guy identifies himself as a Republican, gets applause. Asks Obama why he magically changed his position on single option.
Obama answers by *lying* and saying he never supported one. The guy gets no chance for a follow-up.
Never supported single-payer, huh?
August 11, 2009 - 13:10 ET by Barker“I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer, universal health care plan.” - Obama
Yeah, that's the ticket.
unbelievable run around
August 11, 2009 - 12:53 ET by candanceObama just said the public "option" will not be subsidized, but will be funded through copays and deductibles.
Un-frickin-believable.
holy crap
August 11, 2009 - 12:55 ET by katainkenthas HE read any of these bills ↓
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he lies within a five minute stretch
August 11, 2009 - 13:01 ET by candanceHe just said that taxes on the wealth should be used. So apparently it does need a subsidy.
He seems to think the
August 11, 2009 - 13:11 ET by Radical1979He seems to think the American people are all stupid. He should have been in Lebanon this morning.
He's talking about foot amputation. My mom was in that exact situation and wanted her foot amputated by the DOCTORS wouldn't until they tried other options and they saved her foot.
That man is such a LIAR
sixth question
August 11, 2009 - 12:54 ET by candanceA public school teacher begs him to save those with mental health problems.
Synergy
August 11, 2009 - 12:56 ET by JustAlThis could be combined with Dan Rather's program to save the media!
A public school teacher begs him --
August 11, 2009 - 13:06 ET by misterbill"A public school teacher begs him to save those with mental health problems"
That's a given--in his case it's self preservation!! What a maroon he is!
seventh question
August 11, 2009 - 12:59 ET by candanceA guy asks how this will happen without raising taxes or deficits.
Obama repeats numbers and discounts the CBO already debunked. He then proposes raising taxes on the wealthy to pay for the rest.
Another brilliant Naked
August 11, 2009 - 13:01 ET by BKeyserAnother brilliant Naked Emperor News video.
eight question
August 11, 2009 - 13:06 ET by candanceObama asks for a critic. A woman who works for the public school is picked. She begins to ask how he wants to dump 50 million into the system. He interrupts her to say it's only 30 million.
She asks how new doctors will *poof* appear to serve the new people. Then she asks about the "death panel."
Obama admits that a panel of "experts" will make sure you don't recieve extra treatment. Repeats the lie that specialists don't have access to your family doctor's records.
Excellent work, candance
August 11, 2009 - 13:08 ET by BlondeAnd thank you....I am having too nice of a day to listen to the Bamster to ruin it.
I hope he fails, too.
its actually 80 million
August 11, 2009 - 13:09 ET by katainkentits actually 80 million... but hey who's counting.
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wow. just wow.
August 11, 2009 - 13:10 ET by candanceObama plans to address the immediate shortage of doctors by saying he will "invest' in certain career paths in college. Apparently that will get more doctors into the system in just six months.
Reminds me of a saying we
August 11, 2009 - 14:02 ET by BuffNBoneReminds me of a saying we had in the AF, "You want it bad, you get it bad."
"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"
last question
August 11, 2009 - 13:12 ET by candanceA critic tells Obama that he gladly flagged himself as an enemy.
Obama gets visibly angry and snaps at him.
The critic asks why Congress lives by double standards.
...and Obama doesn't anwer
August 11, 2009 - 13:13 ET by Radical1979...and Obama doesn't anwer the question. The simple answer is Congress and I will GO ON THE NEW PLAN.
exactly, radical
August 11, 2009 - 13:14 ET by candanceHe's trying his darndest to imply that we will have exactly the same gig as Congress. No mention of the critters who have publicly admitted they will *not* use the same plan.
Re Bamster TH
August 11, 2009 - 13:21 ET by slickwillie2001Thanks for the blow by blow. I can't stand to watch the man any longer. Rush is also providing running commentary.
It appears to me that the Bamster is so desperate that he is simply lying outright. Either that or he is completely disconnected and clueless as to what Congress is doing. I suspect the former because of the monsters he has hired to advise him on healthcare, ie Holdren and Emanuel. He repeated the lie that he is not a fan of single payer.
This is blatant lying yet I expect the old media will let him off as they have been.
Off with his head?
August 11, 2009 - 13:24 ET by Barker"You're one of those skeptics, aren't you?" - Obama
well *that* screener is fired
August 11, 2009 - 13:26 ET by katainkentlol
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"The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax" - HR 3200 (Health Care Bill) Pg. 203. Ln 14 & 15
He talked about insurance
August 11, 2009 - 13:14 ET by Radical1979He talked about insurance companies not being able to refuse to cover certain people or conditions and they won't be able to put caps on coverage. He will kill the insurance industry. Which is his goal.
the rousing finale
August 11, 2009 - 13:17 ET by candanceHe ends by saying anything is better than status qou so we should all just go along with it.
hmmm. Wasn't that Hitler's
August 11, 2009 - 13:19 ET by Radical1979hmmm. Wasn't that Hitler's montra?
thanks candance
August 11, 2009 - 13:23 ET by katainkentyou should get some hazard pay for enduring that :)
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MSNBC just admitted no hard
August 11, 2009 - 13:18 ET by Radical1979MSNBC just admitted no hard questions and Mitchell's guest said it was not a town hall meeting it was a campaign event.
I don't like Spector but at least he had the guts to face real citizens and concerns.
Exactly
August 11, 2009 - 13:26 ET by BlondeThe only thing Obama is remotely good at is (1) campaigning and (2) apologizing.
I have had quite enough of this losing loser. I hope the "tracking" of dissidents will rise to the level of impeachability, I for one am truly over this jackass.
I hope he fails, too.
Does that make him a
August 11, 2009 - 13:40 ET by Jack BauerDoes that make him a CAMPOLOGIST? No -- that's Barney Frank.
And not to be mistaken for a camponologist (church bell ringer)
Perhaps he is a
August 11, 2009 - 13:58 ET by celatorPerhaps he is a suicamponologist, one who uses his own head as the clanger in a church bell to announce vespers.
Just wondering. ;+}
No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.
What a JOKE!
August 11, 2009 - 13:35 ET by DelsaTickets handed out by the White House?
Scripted Questions including a little girl asking about "mean signs"?
Shouters?
You've got to be kidding!
What a F'n SHAM!
And the president did not even answer his last question which was a simple, "Why are we not all, including congress, going to have the same plan"?
Never answered it.
OMG!
tickets
August 11, 2009 - 15:38 ET by katainkentfor Obama's town hall have always been handed out via the White House website. You fill out the form and wait for a phone call if you've been selected.
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"The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax" - HR 3200 (Health Care Bill) Pg. 203. Ln 14 & 15
The Obama machine will be
August 11, 2009 - 13:46 ET by NonArabOmarThe Obama machine will be putting on this production. The audience is going to be stacked with ACORN/Democrat activists and operatives.
Expect another youtube debate with softball questions. No one but handpicked democrats are going to get in.
dude, I just noticed something.
August 11, 2009 - 15:31 ET by candanceThe next time you see footage of the forum on TV, look for the wide shot of the stage looking at the crowd. The whole floor around the stage was laid with purple carpet - a particular shade of purple.
Have scoured the web for a photo and can't find one.
candance those little things
August 11, 2009 - 21:27 ET by Radical1979candance those little things are so telling. Purple, once the color reserved for royals...Exactly what obama thinks he is.
Re Rush
August 11, 2009 - 16:41 ET by slickwillie2001BTW, I noticed today during Rush Limbaugh's coverage of the Bamster's townhall meeting that his imitation of the Bamster continues to improve to the point where it is really quite good. So few real comedians dare to imitate the speaking style of The One that it stand out when one person nails it as he does.
Hannity pulled an MSNBC-type unfair video edit
August 11, 2009 - 21:24 ET by RR GOPWas really disappointed to see on Hannity's show that incident with Specter and the citizen. Specter was telling that one guy (whoever he was) and then the two police officers to let the man go, and he was very passionate about that and letting the man have his say if he wanted.
The loudest shouting from Specter was when he was yelling "wait a minute!" at the men who looked like they were trying to manhandle that gentleman out of the place.
At any rate, Specter made sure the man had his say and stood there and took whatever the guy threw at him, to his credit.
In the Hannity clip they tried to make it look like Specter was shouting at the man rather than at the other guy and the police officers who were interfering. They also cut out the part where Specter told the man to state what was on his mind, and after the man was done Specter's comments concerning how that was Democracy in action or something to that effect.
I'm no fan of Specter, but I think he got a raw deal on this one, and hopefully Fox News isn't going to start emulating their MSM counterparts on the Left.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
Hannity
August 11, 2009 - 21:30 ET by Sergeant ROCKI saw the entire video on, I believe, Special Report earlier and you're right. Hannity and some 'splaining to do.
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason