Salon.com Editor-in-Chief Joan Walsh, on Wednesday night's "Hardball," cited "conservatives" like Rush Limbaugh, Michelle Malkin and Bill O’Reilly for "whipping up" a climate that sparks the likes of alleged Holocaust Museum shooter James Von Brunn and "Hardball" host Chris Matthews wondered if access to guns were to blame for the tragedy as he cried, "It's easier to get your hands on a gun than to get somebody to make you a waffle." Blaming Limbaugh while insisting she was not, Walsh charged:
There is a very disturbing and disturbed element of political discourse. And I would, I would throw in Rush Limbaugh. Not blaming him, but when you say that our President is more dangerous than al-Qaeda you've gone off into crazy nut job land. You are off the charts crazy. And you are, you are whipping people up.
After her appearance from San Francisco, Walsh posted a blog item titled: "Can right-wing hate talk lead to murder?"
Audio: MP3 clip (1:50).
The following exchanges aired toward the end of the June 10 edition of MSNBC's "Hardball":
CHRIS MATTHEWS: Joan Walsh this is a political action today by a far right extremist. I just wonder what's in the water, what's in the air as we speak?
JOAN WALSH, SALON: Well I wonder too, especially in the wake of the murder of Dr. George Tiller who performed abortions, another, another really unhinged right wing nut job. And, and I want to be very careful here Chris. The only people responsible are the people who pulled the triggers. Unless we find out that these guys had help, that may be a different story. But from what we know now the people responsible are the killers. However I don't think you can deny that there is a rising climate of right wing hate, a lot of it directed at Obama. You and I go way back to the beginning of the campaign and the level of craziness. He's a secret Muslim. He hates America. He wasn't born here. Now this guy, Von Brunn, he's, he, he was one of the birthers. He didn't believe in Obama's birth certificate and he was constantly online agitating about that. There is a very disturbing and disturbed element of political discourse. And I would, I would throw in Rush Limbaugh. Not blaming him, but when you say that our President is more dangerous than al-Qaeda you've gone off into crazy nut job land. You are off the charts crazy. And you are, you are whipping people up. If he's worse than our mortal enemy -- al-Qaeda who killed thousands and thousands of Americans – I don't know where do you go after that? It's awful.
...
WALSH: Chris can I make a point-
MATTHEWS: Sure.
WALSH: -about the DHS report too, that I think is relevant. Susan [Page] hits the high points. It also says that, you know, the single biggest danger, in their view, are lone wolves and that looks prescient today too. But what, if you look back at the way Janet Napolitano, who didn't even write it, it was commissioned by the Bush, by the Bush White House, if you look back at the way she was vilified, at Rush Limbaugh, and Michelle Malkin and that whole right wing echo chamber acting as though it was now open season on conservatives, they have this incredible capacity-
MATTHEWS: Yeah.
WALSH: -to be shrill, to polarize. And I don't know what happened to that report? It got shelved until today. Susan and I read it. You know I hadn't read it, when it came out. It's very calm.
MATTHEWS: Well let me ask you Sue, we live in a country where it's easier to get your hands on a gun than to get somebody to make you a waffle. It's easy! It is totally easy in this country. We believe in the First Amendment. Our Constitution is protected. The right to bear arms is an individual right, as recently reviewed by the Supreme Court. It's a fact of life. You put together the, the prevalence of guns in this country. The easiness with which someone can engage in gunplay and gun smoke, in this case, where people can be killed it doesn't surprise me. I wonder whether if in a free society violence is always gonna be part of it, if guns are available and people are allowed to walk into places like the Holocaust Museum?
A little later in the program Matthews questioned if "conservatives" needed to change their "tone," to which USA Today's Susan Page more reasonably offered it wasn't fair "to conflate being a conservative with fringe groups." For her part Walsh tried to walk back her position, as she said she didn't blame "conservatives" or "mainstream Republicans" for the shooting but nevertheless continued to link their "rhetoric," to the tragedy.
MATTHEWS: Susan you first. You know we've grown up in a country where there's been an extreme, generally on the right, sometimes on the left. Lee Harvey Oswald clearly was fascinated and in love with, infatuated with, with Fidel Castro when he killed Kennedy. This thing here where you have a person who claims to be or is actually anti-Semitic, anti-black, anti-Catholic, I guess on the periphery, which is the big three of the KKK historically. What do we do with this? Are we gonna hear from conservatives who are gonna start saying, "Well let's stop some of this black helicopter talk. Let's stop this villainization of the government, of the establishment." Which way do you think the tone of the debate is gonna go now?
SUSAN PAGE, USA TODAY: Well I don't think it's really fair to conflate being a conservative with these fringe groups that engage in this, in this kind of violence. I mean that's, you can be a critic of the Obama administration without endorsing these, these kind of views and certainly these, these actions. But I do, yeah I do think this sparks a kind of debate and concern about, about what's happening with politics.
...
WALSH: And I will say, you know, I do hope that some conservatives do stand up. I don't blame them, I don't blame mainstream Republicans by any means for this. I want to be clear. But they could help in ratcheting down some of the rhetoric. When Bill O'Reilly goes on TV every night and calls Dr. Tiller a baby-killer and a Nazi and a Mengele and shows where he works I, why do we put up with that? Why is that entertainment in our culture? Demonizing a private citizen for doing a lawful job. Why, why, why, why are people doing that? Why is that acceptable? I would like to see a debate about that.
Incidentally, while Walsh slammed O'Reilly for "demonizing a private citizen," it was Matthews -- earlier on Wednesday night's show during a segment on the future of the GOP -- who actually compared former House Speaker Newt Gingrich to the Devil:
MATTHEWS: Doug it's not too cartoonish to describe Rush Limbaugh as sort of a walrus under water. That’s what he talks like. Whu, whu, whu. He's like a drowning walrus the way he talks. And then you've got Newt Gingrich who's clearly a, well he looks like a Mephistopheles. And then this guy, well, well Cheney is a troll. So you got a troll, a walrus and the Devil as your cartoon characters. Can't you guys find more attractive figures that the right might rally too?
—Geoffrey Dickens is the senior news analyst at the Media Research Center.
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So Democrats
June 10, 2009 - 18:11 ET by well99Are responsible for the slaying of MLK. Using their logic that must be so. Democrats the party of the KKK.
WHAT IS "ISLAM JUSTIFIED"?
June 10, 2009 - 20:06 ET by reelman46WHAT IS “ISLAM JUSTIFIED”?
Did ya notice the networks all but ignored the dimwit moslem nutcase that murdered a USA soldier recently?
This convert to the Cult of Allah said the murder was not murder because it was “islam justified”.
Who told him this? Where is this written? How many others in America subscribe to this view?
Okay, libs, jump in here, explain what this new term means. Get to it, start the research and polling.
Does it mean that the murder of Tiller the Baby Killer was really not murder because it was “Catholic justified”?
Does this mean all the murders in Ireland back when by protestants were not murder because they were “protestant justified’?
Let’s have News Specials on the secular socialist networks with panels discussing “islam justified”.
What’s the matter, cat got ya tongue?
Ohhh, liberals are too cowardly to even cover this murder…now, I get it. Murder by a domestic islamic terrorist does not rate.
This reminds us of the shallow coverage of the Unabomber’s AlGore book found in his hut and underlined.
Gee, if he would have only had the Bible or a conservative book…tough
luck, no panel discussions of the impact on a serial killer of an
AlGore book.
Bias is as bias does. Its sickening…of course modern liberalism is a mental disorder so there you go.
Doug Schexnayder, Ph.D. (theconservativecrawfish)
rm
June 10, 2009 - 20:42 ET by well99William Long doesnt count.
"Ohhh, liberals are too cowardly to even cover this murder…now, I get it. Murder by a domestic islamic terrorist does not rate."
You got that right.It is typical left wing BS.
Matthew states that it's our
June 10, 2009 - 23:59 ET by AcrosMatthew states that it's our first Amendment to bear arms. This is a reporter that doesn't know that it's our SECOND AMENDMENT right ot bear arms not our first which is freedom of speech??????
Desperation
June 11, 2009 - 01:30 ET by KC MulvilleSee how desperate they are to mix everything altogether as a "climate of hate!" No facts, no evidence, no examples ... it's just a climate, ya know? It just feels that way. And then, with the authority of her own feelings, Walsh argues that the political climate is encouraging individual whackos to kill, so that conservatives should, for the sake of making the climate warmer ... do what? Stop criticising? Make one's complaint more pleasingly?
Their free-floating associations have become so transparently self-serving that it's embarrassing. Soon they'll be connecting any criticism of Obama to ... Darfur ... or the Borg ... or Sauron ...
slander from Chris Matthews
June 10, 2009 - 18:13 ET by RousseHow long will MSNBC let Chris Matthews slander people?
As long as they keep stealing share from CNN.
June 10, 2009 - 18:17 ET by c5thenMSNBC has made a business decision to be the liberal / left-wing network. To do that they have to be as vitriolic and partisan as possible otherwise no one would notice them.
Hey, I got the wrong "CHANGE"!
www.loyaltoliberty.com
Another liberal tactic
June 10, 2009 - 18:37 ET by motherbeltAnd I would, I would throw in Rush Limbaugh. Not blaming him, but
when you say that our president is more dangerous than al-Qaeda you've
gone off into crazy nut job land. You are off the charts crazy. And you
are, you are whipping people up.
Attach someone to the crime, whatever it is.
Then say I'm not blaming him, you understand, I'm just saying that when he says the things he says, he is off the rails and whipping people up. Not that that means he's to blame, you understand, just that because of the things he says he has to take some responsibility....but I'm not blaming him.....
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
Well then
June 10, 2009 - 22:32 ET by MeowMeowI guess I'm as crazy a mofo as Rush, because I completely agree with his statement that BHO is destroying this country quicker than Al-Qaeda ever could.
And here I thought I was normal. But I'm a conservative, so I guess I must be a radical, NASCAR loving, inbred, hillbilly, racist simpleton who can barely read.
Viva la Rush!
Meow... Hear,
June 11, 2009 - 21:31 ET by bigtimerMeow...
Hear, Hear!
...and then some!!
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
hhhhmmmm... the obama
June 10, 2009 - 18:20 ET by MidAmericahhhhmmmm... the obama years are appearing to be more divisive and violent than the George Bush years.
Do tell.
June 10, 2009 - 19:51 ET by GregEDo tell.
Rush is a 9/11 "truther"
June 10, 2009 - 18:22 ET by NewsbusterbrownRush is a 9/11 "truther" like this moron von Brunn?!!
“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
Hey Joan, sweetie,
June 10, 2009 - 18:24 ET by NC Copyou might want to check out "Reverend" Wright's rant against the Jews that is posted a few posts down. Sure sounds like Wright is whipping up some anti-semitic views, huh?
The media always has been, and continues to be, in the pocket of the left. Completely disgusting, they should be ashamed of themselves.
Wouldn't it be interesting
June 10, 2009 - 18:38 ET by motherbeltWouldn't it be interesting if they found out that the guy was a Holocaust denier and that's why he went to the Holocause Museum?
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
Reverend Wright? Why
June 10, 2009 - 19:53 ET by GregEReverend Wright? Why bring him up? He's just a normal guy.
Why, you.....you...you racist!! :-)
It would be far more likely
June 10, 2009 - 18:25 ET by 10ksnookerThat the shooter was a KKK member. The KKK, remember them? The Democrat's terror wing.
Why is it that the right
June 10, 2009 - 18:26 ET by goldbarWhy is it that the right wing talking heads are always inciting people to kill. Jim Adkisson goes into a Knoxville church and kills two people. On his bookshelf are books by all the Fox talking heads and Rush Limbaugh. Scott Roeder, incited by Bill O'Reilly goes into a church and kills Dr. George Tiller. This nut that shot the guard at the Holocaust museum is a racist extremist, the kind Homeland Security warned us about and when they did, Fox News and all the right wing talking heads there and elsewhere went ballistic! Now, amazingly enough-- they're aplogizing. So is Rush Limbaugh to blame for this latest killing? Maybe. Limbaugh, along with all the others who incite violence against people who don't share their beliefs. Ann Coulter advocated taking a baseball bat to liberals. It's no different than Nazi Germany and the right wing media has blood on their collective hands.
I blame you for inciting
June 10, 2009 - 18:29 ET by NewsbusterbrownI blame you for inciting stupidity in that post, goldbar.
“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
Thanks, nbb, for replying
June 10, 2009 - 18:42 ET by motherbeltThanks, nbb, for replying to goldbar so that he can't edit or delete his comment. Let his colossal stupidity stand.
And hey, goldbar, you left out those hateful right-winger who made up a list of liberal women he'd like sexually assault with violence!
Oops. My bad.
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
No problem, MB. It was my
June 10, 2009 - 18:45 ET by NewsbusterbrownNo problem, MB. It was my pleasure. :-)
“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
Sorry NBB... I just want to make a shout out to the tard below
June 10, 2009 - 22:23 ET by pahuberyou.
"Earth control to major Golbar you've really made the grade and you're sounding like an ass....."
Uh, better start responding.... I know you want to present evidence to back up your GInormous ASSertions. The comments continue to pile up almost higher than the hot steamy mess you left on this thread... hellllloooooooooooooooooooooo GOLBAR??? are you here????
Goldbar? Goldbar?
NWAHS? NWAHS?
How about Bill O'Reilly who
June 10, 2009 - 19:57 ET by goldbarHow about Bill O'Reilly who actually sexually harassed one of his producers and paid dearly for it? Loofahs and falafils....
→ There's goldbar!
June 10, 2009 - 20:45 ET by Cool ArrowRight on cue, pleading his case with the obligatory "Yeah, but look what O'reilly did!"
Justifying bad behavior with other bad behavior
The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black - Joe Biden
LOL, yeah he is a piece of work.
June 10, 2009 - 21:11 ET by pahuberI laughed myself silly reading his first post on this thread...
"Asked if he had spoken to
June 10, 2009 - 18:46 ET by NC Cop"Asked if he had spoken to the President, Wright said: "Them Jews aren't going to let him talk to me. I told my baby daughter, that he'll talk to me in five years when he's a lame duck, or in eight years when he's out of office. "
Maybe the holocaust shooter was so angry at what Wright said he went to the museum to shoot it up?
Looks like Wright was whipping up anti-semitism, huh, goldbar? Anything to say about that? Or is what he said ok because he's one of Obama's whores?
"It's no different than
June 10, 2009 - 19:16 ET by MightyMouth"It's no different than Nazi Germany and the right wing media has blood on their collective hands"
So all those people you mention have nationalized industry and the nations financial system like the Nazis did?
goldbar, you are dumber than a bag-o-hammers.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
It's late, so I'll be brief
June 10, 2009 - 19:19 ET by SickofLibsYou, Sir, are an unmitigated, flaming, planet-sized asshole.
Resign, I say, and spew elsewhere.
"It's no different than
June 10, 2009 - 20:06 ET by GregE"It's no different than Nazi Germany..."
Hey, thank you for posting that line. As I've always said, a discussion just isn't a real discussion, until a liberal whips out the Nazi equivalence card.
When are we going to
June 10, 2009 - 20:12 ET by Chris NormanWhen are we going to realize (me included) that trolls, like goldbar, serve the same function as MSNBC? That is to taunt us with stupid accusations and comparisons? They don't care what they sound like - they have no dignity, no class, and absolutely no standards, whatsoever. They're all just obnoxious immature jerks, who design their taunts to get the maximum number of protests as possible in order to attract attention to themselves and derail the train of comments.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
I'm not incited ...
June 10, 2009 - 21:22 ET by Kevin HalpernFunny, I listen to O'Reilly and watch Fox News and I'm not incited to be violent. Funny, the guy who killed the guard at the Holocaust museam sounds more like Rev. Wright than a right winger. Could it be that Rev. Wright is a racist extremist?
The Catcher in the Rye
June 10, 2009 - 22:26 ET by CobraManGoldbar, what is it about literary icons that incite people to shoot celebrities? Mark David Chapman, who shot John Lennon in the back, was carrying a copy of The Catcher in the Rye!
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
Are you freakin' serious?
June 10, 2009 - 23:14 ET by mbuel"Why is it that the right wing talking heads are always inciting people to kill."
QUOTE ONE "right wing talking head" that has INCITED people to kill. The problem is you can't. You've started you're argument with a straw man.
Jim Adkisson goes into a Knoxville church and kills two people.
Jim Adkisson was a nutcase, just like the muslim shooters last week, and just like the KKK members (all lifelong democrats like the anti-semitic individual today.) I don't AUTOMATICALLY blame the entire group like democrats do. I first EXAMINE the person's idealogy and beliefs. In the case of Jim Adkisson there was nothing in Hannity or O'Reilly's writings that INCITED people to kill. If that was true, why aren't MILLIONS of conservatives out killing liberals? Both authors are on the NY TIMES BEST SELLER list. MILLIONS of Americans have read the books, and only <b>ONE</b> nutcase, makes a case against conservatives as a whole for you democrats/liberals.
Scott Roeder, incited by Bill O'Reilly
This is another strawman. AND once again, if it affected Roeder, why aren't other conservatives shooting abortion doctors? Aren't we all just "Mind numb robots"?
YOU SEE, this goes back to what I said last week.
Conservatives look at things FIRST as an individual problem, before we blame an entire group of people for a problem. YOU SIMPLY cannot turn off the group think though.
This nut that shot the guard at the Holocaust museum is a racist extremist
And from all of his writings, and from the FACT that other RACIST extremists are democrats, I think this guy was too.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT. I'm not going to say that he was incited by Randi Rhodes to kill jews, because she is ALWAYS ALWAYS bashing them. Seriously, go to ANY left wing blog, or ANY left wing radio host and they ARE ALWAYS bagging on the jews.
Does that mean that Randi is inciting Democrats to kill jews though? She's certainly inciting IGNORANCE of the right of the jewish state to defend itself, but I would NEVER say that she is brainwashing you democrats to kill people.
That's moronic.
It's no different than Nazi Germany and the right wing media has blood on their collective hands.
TWO PROBLEMS with your straw man:
1) NAtional SOcialist GERMANY was a LEFT WING idealogy.
2) NO RIGHT WING media INCITES people to kill other people. Fox News has FOUR times the ratings of CNN. If what you say is True (which it's not) MILLIONS of viewers would be chomping at the bit to hunt liberals.
NO WORRIES FOR YOU though, we just recognize the madness of socialism and will TRY TO LEGALLY (unlike your ilk who use ACORN, and other law breaking groups to win) try to get power back to Constitutional IDEALS.
The free market works, Government controls always fail.
Right wing media? AYFS?
June 11, 2009 - 11:44 ET by Six String SpiffRIGHT wing media? Care to give any evidence of such? This website has thousands of stories chronicling the LEFT wing bias?
Are you retarded? No that can't be, otherwise I'd feel bad for you.
Right wing media... please
Islamic Religious Services Will Be Held at the Firing Range At 0800 Daily.
I find it interesting
June 10, 2009 - 18:27 ET by Joe CamelInteresting in watching the coverage while working out today, Fox on one channel and the Communist News Network on the other; they both were calling the murder a "White Supremicist". Point is, the nutball "Muslim Terrorist" who killed our soldiers today is still not painted in that light. BTW, I have and never will watch Chris Mathews or any of those loony toons out there on MSNBC, CNBC or the like...won't happen. For the five people who do, God bless you.
BET YOU DID NOT HEAR THIS
June 10, 2009 - 20:25 ET by reelman46A MOST INTERESTING RIGHTWINGNEWS POST 2DAY:
Kathy
Shaidle:
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SO IS THIS NOT VERY VERY VERY INTERESTING?? Feel free to research
this guy on your own...bet you never read this before...wonder why?
Doug Schexnayder, Ph.D. (theconservativecrawfish)
Nazism
June 10, 2009 - 22:45 ET by allanfNazi stood for National Socialism. I think its views are more left wing than right wing. It's leftists who want government control.
I said earlier that the 2nd
June 10, 2009 - 18:27 ET by bigtimerI said earlier that the 2nd Amendment would come into this.
Funny coming from Matthews, who gets his gun off every time Obama opens his mouth.
As to the rest of this leftist hatred, this intentional propaganda...all of you here on this show, and others to come go to hell and eat my dust.
I despise you, you are the problems in this country, and you are all in fear with the choice you made to put your false god in office.
Live with it...until you have to answer to your maker...as far as I am concerned there are devils, evil on this earth....and you all fit the bill and have for years...we will fight you...you will be defeated.
Come hell or high water.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Radical Left Wing Lunatics
June 10, 2009 - 18:49 ET by aposematicHow could anyone call either of these two raving mad lunatics journalists.
aposematic in VA
What is faster and more
June 10, 2009 - 19:33 ET by Chris NormanWhat is faster and more certain - some whack opportunistic environmentalist blaming a tragic incident, like a plane crash, on "global warming" or some obnoxious opportunistic liberal hater blaming a murder committed by some nut on Rush Limbaugh and/or the conservative movement?
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Let not your heart be troubled
June 11, 2009 - 10:57 ET by djm159Remember the old adage - "if a tree falls in the forest and no one is around does it make a noise?" The same applies to MSNBC , NBC, CBS and ABC- who's listening?
Okay
June 10, 2009 - 19:36 ET by DoktorFrankenThese people make it way too easy -
Salon's Joan Walsh, on Wednesday night's "Hardball," cited
"conservatives" like Rush Limbaugh, Michelle Malkin and Bill O’Reilly
for "whipping up" a climate that sparks the likes of alleged
Holocaust Museum shooter James Von Brunn and "Hardball" host Chris
Matthews wondered if access to guns were to blame for the tragedy as he
cried, "It's easier to get your hands on a gun than to get somebody to make you a waffle."
As for the 'whipping up' (does that come with a happy ending?), hasn't Walsh watched Olbermann, Maddow, Matthews, The View, MSNBC . . . . . .?
And as for the gun-purchase/waffle-making comparrison, it sounds like Crissy is smoking waffles.
I wish
June 10, 2009 - 23:16 ET by mbuelI wish it was as easy to buy a gun as it is a waffle. It'd make the crime rates plummet.
The free market works, Government controls always fail.
Gun-wielding guards kept today's shooting from getting worse
June 10, 2009 - 23:40 ET by nkviking75The death of the security guard was an awful thing, but because there were other armed security guards, the situation didn't become even worse.
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
ABSOLUTELY
June 11, 2009 - 13:17 ET by mbuelThis is another "talking point" the drive by media ALWAYS forgets. Not to mention the guy had AN ASSAULT RIFLE.
(Not that the gun type matters).
I say that if EVERYONE carried openly there would BE NO MUGGINGS. if this guy KNEW that everyone within this memorial was armed and willing to defend themselves, would he still have attempted it?
The free market works, Government controls always fail.
Me too
June 11, 2009 - 11:09 ET by dvdaughtryIt takes about 7-10 days to obtain a permit to purchase (handguns) here in Mecklenberg County, NC (Long guns can be cash and carry).
However, it took me 4 weeks to get my class date for a CCHP. Then it is taking 12 weeks to get the appointment for fingerprints and background check. Finally, the sherriff has up to 12 weeks to issue the permit.
We're talking 7 months +/- to obtain the permit.
Wafflehouse is not as fast as they used to be, but they don't take that long.
You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?
Making Waffles
June 11, 2009 - 13:38 ET by unitaryexecutiveWhat are you talking about? I went to IHOP the other day, ordered a waffle, and waited forever while the waitress completed my background check.
We have so many people who can't see a fat man standing beside a thin one without coming to the conclusion that the fat man got that way by taking advantage of the thin one.
-Ronald Reagan
The scary thing
June 11, 2009 - 13:49 ET by danebramageis that this isn't very far from reality. Waffles are fattening and we know how Uncle Nanny feels about us eating fattening things.
LOL
June 11, 2009 - 16:17 ET by mbuelMaybe Chris was talking about what he wants, that he wants it to be as hard to buy waffles as it is guns!
The free market works, Government controls always fail.
There will probably
June 10, 2009 - 19:37 ET by MidAmericaThere will probably more acts of violence in this country as it spins apart. When people are experiencing hard times there will be those who will act out violently because of frustation and hopelessness.
MA... Right you are...and
June 10, 2009 - 19:48 ET by bigtimerMA...
Right you are...and the msm along with the politico's on the left will be arm in arm with them as usual, blame this on anyone on the right that they fear...or feared as in Pres. Bush to deflect from their own guilt...
Nothing changes.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Mid
June 11, 2009 - 01:57 ET by DoktorFrankenExactly. And as an example of the folks initiating the violence, can someone describe the folks outside a Philly voting location last November? Their political and racial (actually, racist) leanings?
Here's a hint - Hussein's top law guy let them go recently - without due process - after they lost their intimidation case with the government (by default - they did not show up to court).
Expect A LOT more of the same with pretty much the same results - the intimidators get off free and clear. In fact, I'll go so far as to predict that intimidation will be sanctioned, if not initiated, by this Administration (well, they have already intimidated some folks - violence is the next logical step for thugs, is it not?). The Supremes have rolled over and the way is clear for the next election to be THE LAST election. Unless, of course, these folks are stopped somehow. We can all make 2010 an election to remember!
Cover up
June 10, 2009 - 19:46 ET by rick007I think Matthews AKA B Frank is trying to cover the fact that their views are exactly the views that the Muslim used to shoot two American heros!!!
"Crazy nutjob land?"
June 10, 2009 - 19:49 ET by GregE"Crazy nutjob land?" Golly gee, that makes me feel like throwing out "I know you are but what am I!"
LOL
Fox News
June 10, 2009 - 19:49 ET by goldbarFox News apologizes.
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200906100041
Shepard Smith belongs on CNN...
June 10, 2009 - 20:07 ET by jawebster1or that network no one watches. I avoid him when I can, but unfortunately my DVR picks up the ending of his show when I record O'Reilly. He also comes on my radio at 2pm on Fox radio during Hannity's radio show. I try my best to switch over to my computer and listen to Hannity there before he comes on at 2pm. There is only so much you can do. Mark Levin calls him "Shemp" Smith. Sounds about right. Jim Webster
goldbar, How exactly was
June 10, 2009 - 20:11 ET by hydrodynDMgoldbar,
How exactly was that an apology?
(For whatever reason, I can't get the video on the page you linked to come up, but I assume it's the same clip as this one.)
goldbar
June 10, 2009 - 20:29 ET by well99This is a crock.The guy was a WW2 vet.He was a racist.Since the Dems are the party of the KKK he belongs with them.This is one incident and your trying to turn this into a Tiller moment.It is a shame that man's life was lost but there is and will aways be people that murder out there.
Just a note:You did notice that Heidi whatever from Southern Poverty Law Center didnt mention the muslim slaying of William Long.I guess that doesnt count as domestic terrorism.
After viewing the post w/ SS I read the remarks by your cohorts.
June 10, 2009 - 22:06 ET by pahuberVery appalling.
Shep will be replaced eventually and become some irrelevent person on one of the libtard think tank channels.
Smith is a moron
June 10, 2009 - 23:20 ET by mbuelListen to Al Qaeda...
These nut jobs are NOT right wing. NOT EVEN CLOSE.
Tim McVeigh wasn't right wing and MANY witnesses saw them with an Arab man that helped setup the truck. Why didn't the Clinton Administration look into that?
Listen to what the nuts at Al Qaeda are saying today:
"We will side with White Extremists that hate America to help bring the Devil down!"
Conservatives are upset with the direction the country is headed for sure. BUT NONE OF US, HATE this country and want to see it destroyed regardless of the idiot currently in power.
The free market works, Government controls always fail.
"It's easier to get your
June 10, 2009 - 19:56 ET by GregE"It's easier to get your hands on a gun than to get somebody to make you a waffle."
Well, apparently this is just like the rest of the interview, nothing being exaggerated.
Lemmings
June 10, 2009 - 20:06 ET by JABLemmings over an F'ING cliff I tell you! These people still have not graduated from the BDS Syndrome college, they are just directing it toward ANYONE they percieve as a conservative pundit.
Keep it up you idiots, your numbers are starting to show in a big way, be it print media, hollywood, MSM, etc. Don't worry though, obami will pull you through this with my tax dollars that neither Russia nor China want any more.
And, while I'm on a rant, I double down on my tag...
"Too bad Ignorance isn't painful..."
Hey JAB... Couldn't agree
June 10, 2009 - 20:13 ET by bigtimerHey JAB...
Couldn't agree more...and I double down on your tag too!
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
I was watching
June 10, 2009 - 20:24 ET by HoosierEm...........and I had to turn it off because it was making me so angry. Joan Walsh started out with her, "Gee, I've got to be careful how I say this.................."
She's no journalist and neither is Chris Matthews.
HE...Oh I felt the same
June 10, 2009 - 20:31 ET by bigtimerHE...
Oh I felt the same with the anger...my first post above about this was an angry me.
I still am, although I've cooled off some.
Madness is all around us...the likes of which I have never seen.
Today is a perfect example with all that happened news wise...so much, so many things alone that would have been made a top news story tonight at least with the policital talking heads...things are happening at break-neck speed in this country...the likes I've never felt or seen in my life time.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
→ Wait a sec
June 10, 2009 - 20:40 ET by Cool ArrowIt's the left that regularly calls for the weakening of Israel.
As a country, as a people, the Left can turn their backs, but I know the day I turn my back on God's chosen, I go down from the presence of God.
The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black - Joe Biden
The left coddle the
June 10, 2009 - 21:26 ET by mostlymoderateThe left coddle the interests of Islamic terrorists and attack the interests of Israel on a daily basis. Many left-winger publications hate Israel, hate AIPAC, belittle the remembrance of holocaust survivors by using expressions like "Nazi" and "Hitler" when referring to Republicans and they foment code-words like "neo-con" and "zionists" etc. Just look back at the way liberals reacted to guys like Wolfowitz, Feith, and Kristol under Bush. Do a Google search for "jews under Bush" or "neoconservatives" and you are likely to end up on some Jew-hating, Republican hating conspiracy site run by a liberal democrat.
yep
June 10, 2009 - 23:23 ET by mbuelThis is exactly the point I made to goldbar above. If you read ANY of the left wing blogs, and listen (hard I know) to the left wing talk show hosts, they are ALWAYS blaming Israel and jews for the current instability in the middle east.
You should hear the left wingers at my work... They don't think Israel has a right to defend itself, and that it's ISRAEL's fault that Palestine attacks it....
It's a sickness.
The free market works, Government controls always fail.
I hate to say it, but you
June 10, 2009 - 21:08 ET by mostlymoderateI hate to say it, but you all know deep down inside that if this was a Christian church, attacked by an Islamic terrorist, the media would be oh so "ho hum".
Go ahead, think about it.
Were these libtards as outraged at the Muslim who killed
June 10, 2009 - 21:16 ET by Worriedthe military recruiter? I'm finding the threats from these hatemongers beyond outrageous. Liberals are dangerous.
Um, no. Liberals could
June 10, 2009 - 21:20 ET by mostlymoderateUm, no. Liberals could care less. Liberals are all politics and no compassion.
→ Doesn't matter
June 10, 2009 - 21:27 ET by Cool ArrowWhat's important is that we, as conservatives continue to condemn all murder.
Tiller deserved the Judgment of God. In the absence of law against his actions, nobody had the right to snuff Tiller for ideological reasons.
The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black - Joe Biden
CA
June 10, 2009 - 21:34 ET by well99Actually no matter what political view murder should not be condoned.We have rule of law and should be important to any American.
→ Ed Zackly
June 10, 2009 - 21:42 ET by Cool ArrowMy sentiments exactly. I don't think there's any wiggle room to understand my post any differently than yours.
The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black - Joe Biden
But Fellas...
June 10, 2009 - 22:21 ET by Massage_Master07Remember???? Dumbama wants EMPATHY from the courts and not RULE OF LAW!! If he wants rule of LAW, then he CAN'T be doing what he KNOWS is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. So if he gets an EMPATHETIC USSC, then they'll be MORE likely to rule for him or in favor of him and his "policies" in the future than on Rule of Law. Please, do NOT forget that.
MM_07... Until then he will
June 10, 2009 - 22:29 ET by bigtimerMM_07...
Until then he will insert and use Czars to rule.
They answer to no one but him.
People had better wake up...and soon.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Matthews ratings SUCK. I
June 10, 2009 - 21:54 ET by KevroyMatthews ratings SUCK. I wonder why...
Here we go again, folks.
June 10, 2009 - 22:25 ET by CobraManDoes this remind you of shooting years ago which led to the term "going postal?" That's when a man shot up a post office and someone noticed that he was a Vietnam Vet. Suddenly every liberal lunatic in America (that's the MSM to the thinking impaired) was claiming that this was some new Right Wing Vet Threat (my own term) and that it was indicative of the mindset of the Vietnam War Vets. Every publicity seeking "psychologist" the MSM could dredge up was claiming that this was a start of some new wave of violence that was going to sweep America. For YEARS the term "going postal" was used every time a gun went off in America.
This is just a repeat over the "going postal" claims, claims that never stood up to even a scintilla of actual scrutiny. I bet the new term will be "pulling an O'Riley" or something equally stupid. Isn't that right, goldbar?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
Most Anti Semitism in America comes from the LEFT
June 10, 2009 - 23:03 ET by yidwithlidHeres the thing that the Hardball Idiots don't understand. Most Antisemitism in America comes from the Liberal side of the aisle. Here is some proof http://tinyurl.com/n...
Sammy Benoit
Yidwithlid
Http://yidwithlid.bl...
Armed Guards, remember?
June 10, 2009 - 23:05 ET by CobraMan"I wonder whether if in a free society violence is always gonna be part of it, if guns are available and people are allowed to walk into places like the Holocaust Museum?"
Hay, idiot, people aren't "allowed" to walk in to a place like the Holocaust Museum and start shooting. The guards carry GUNS, and one of those armed guards SHOT the perp before he could kill a bunch of people in the crowded museum! If it wasn't for those armed guards, I have no doubt that a LOT of innocent people would have been hurt and killed.
"An 88-year-old gunman with a virulently anti-Semitic past fatally shot a security guard inside the crowded U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum on Wednesday before being shot himself by other officers, authorities said." Source
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
IF media hate speech was to blame for murder
June 10, 2009 - 23:19 ET by spmcintyreThen George W, Rush, Sean Hannity, Bill O, Newt and Sarah Palin would all be pushing up daisies.
oh yeah, I should add Ann Coulter to that list
this concept is a non starter with me, and I have thrown the BS flag on that play...
I mean come on libs, comparing Conservatives to Nazis is getting so old, its not even cliche anymore. I suppose I dont have to explain that they are polar opposites on this site,
The NRA is giving FREE 1-yr
June 10, 2009 - 23:19 ET by jdhawkThe NRA is giving FREE 1-yr
memberships to everyone who wants to join.
They are trying to build
up their membership to fight pending legislation that impacts our
right to keep and bear arms.
It is very important that anti-gun congressmen see how many people
they will have to fight to get their legislation through.
Keep in
mind that it is very expensive to continue the fight for our rights, so
please consider maintaining a paid membership after your free year has
expired.
> https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus
> PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU
KNOW!!!
>
> This can include spouses and children
also.
Remember,
the anti-gun, anit-freedom lobbies just won't leave us
alone
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/13/39we-want-them-registered39/
APRIL 12, 2009: DIANNE FEISNTEIN ON HER GUN CONTROL PLANS ON
CBS' "60 MINUTES": "I'll pick the time and place. No question about
that."
"But you must
remember, my fellow-citizens, that eternal vigilance by the people is the
price
of liberty, and that you must pay the price if you wish to secure the
blessing. It behooves you, therefore, to be watchful in your States as
well as in the Federal Government." -- Andrew Jackson, Farewell Address,
March
4, 1837
http://www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/0498heston.htm
jd.... Thanks for the
June 10, 2009 - 23:24 ET by bigtimerjd....
Thanks for the info you provided, I know a couple people that are interested.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Hell, Rush was also responsible for the fall of the Romans, too.
June 10, 2009 - 23:25 ET by R D HelmLOL-Hey, I'm just getting ready for the inevitable.
-Dave
Obama's health care "reform" plan is to blow up the building in order to fix a leak in the roof-Herman Cain
If Joan Walsh is a "journalist," then I am Edward R. Murrow.
June 10, 2009 - 23:32 ET by R D HelmShe is nothing more than a lefty hack
-Dave
Obama's health care "reform" plan is to blow up the building in order to fix a leak in the roof-Herman Cain
Wonder what "whips up"
June 11, 2009 - 04:02 ET by Andrew H.Wonder what "whips up" Matthews? Goofy, elitist left think we are all a bunch of ignorant people. It is projection on their part because they know how really very shallow they are and how poorly prepared intellectually.
Liberalism is a convenient lie.
100% of the anti semitism
June 11, 2009 - 08:18 ET by Willis_Leon_JohnsonComes from the democrat party. Attacking the Holocaust Museum was AntiSemitic, so it wasNOT a 'right wing' anything, but rather more closely related to the far left fringe nutcases.
http://gjresult.com
Brain-dead libs...
June 11, 2009 - 08:28 ET by Kevin JacksonI consider people who listen to Chrissy Matthews and Olberdweeb morons. You truly must be brainless to take them seriously. They are caricatures of the media at this point. http://theblackspher...
So Tingles asks "Can't you
June 11, 2009 - 08:50 ET by SickofLibsSo Tingles asks "Can't you guys find more attractive figures that the right might rally to?"
I have news for you, pal: it's not just about "rallying to", it's also about "rallying against"...
and you and the rest of the MSNBC libtards are our poster boys for that. Keep it up, it is definitely working.
Thank God more people are
June 11, 2009 - 08:58 ET by Roger the ShrubberThank God more people are becoming aware of the evil proliferation of wanton waffle-making.
leftist looney accusations
June 11, 2009 - 09:25 ET by charlietexasWe're stupid I guess. We should embrace the notion that "bad boy" Rush Limbaugh is causing all of these "right wing assaults". their target audience is to weaken the GOP by making centrists and independants leave and join the "tolerant" and "merciful" left.
What they are actually doing in my humble opinion is to GALVANIZE the GOP and pushing away from the Lying Left, the party that has been responsibe for more genocide that Stalin, Hitler, and Pol Pot combined. Joseph Mengele would be proud of thes idiots.
Responsibility
June 11, 2009 - 10:14 ET by djm159The only person responsible for the shooting yesterday at the Holocaust museum and the shooting at the recruiting office in Arkansas is the apologist-in-chief, and the terrorist's ally of the People's Republic of America, aka United States, noneother than Barack Hussein Obama who preaches hatred and disdain for his own country on foreign soil to people who hate us and hate Israel. He gave them the go ahead and could not be more responsible for both killings if he, the annointed one, had pulled the trigger both times himself. Guilty, next case.
Hitler and Stalin taught the
June 11, 2009 - 10:48 ET by daveinbocaHitler and Stalin taught the elitist leftist Dems well. First, take over the media and disallow or discredit any opposition media to contradict the Party Line. GE is part of the cabal, using its subsidiary NBC & [P]MSNBC to cadge an eventual govt. bailout because it's being run by a compleat idiot named Immelt.
Much outcry about a Holocaust Museum guard being killed while the MSM is still silent about a black Islamic terrorist killing an Army recruiter in Little Rock.
And Letterman spews his perv-mouth hatred against Palin, who can go to a Yankee game and be cheered, unlike Hillary Clinton, who never went because she was aware that as a much-despised "Senator" she'd be booed out of the park.
Conan is beginning to make fun of Biden on a nightly basis, which will escalate soon to Obama. That will actually boost his ratings for the late-night crew. Wonder what Immelt will do then, the creepy degenerate!
**Unbelievable**
June 11, 2009 - 11:26 ET by sembyThis hatred was born and raised by all the liberals in this country - what about the hatred against Bush?
I will never forget how the liberals in this country treated this man - and this S^IT will be thrown in their face every chance I can.
These people are delusionals and we better start calling them as such!
Off the Charts crazy?
June 11, 2009 - 11:36 ET by Six String SpiffYou mean like when a powerful Democrat accuses the CIA of lying to her? You mean like THAT kind of crazy.
Oh? That's not crazy? Sticking up for babies is though. I see.
WOW
The media needs to have it's house burned down, and it residents thrown into the street.
Islamic Religious Services Will Be Held at the Firing Range At 0800 Daily.
How can they call him a
June 11, 2009 - 13:16 ET by NonArabOmarHow can they call him a right wing extremist?
It's our left wing president and his left wing compadres who are validating anti-Israeli and anti-american sentiment in the middle east. He's the one sending out the message that it's okay to be antisemitic. He was the one blaming america and israel for all of the middle easts problems in Cairo.
This violence is the product of Obama's openly passive aggressive stance on Israel and statements made by people formerly associated with 'em.
It's becoming less taboo to voice antisemitic sentiment.
The guy is an antireligious socialist. He's read the news. He's seen the changing foreign policy as it relates to Israel. I guess this made him feel justified in his actions... he saw it as a time to act.
Don't you think Obama's words embolden people like him? Didn't he say its okay for the enemies of Israel to continue with nuclear enrichment? Isn't he the guy that looked the other way when Iran tested their latest missiles? Isn't he the one saying it's okay for all enemies of Israel and jews to arm themselves?
this is a great post
June 11, 2009 - 13:19 ET by mbuelYou are exactly right. (and echoing sentiments I made against Goldbar above.)
It's the left wing (IE MAIN STREAM) media that is making Anti-semitic and ANTI-AMERICAN sentiments on the air.
Look at just this week, the newsweek editor on Chris Mathews stated that while Reagan was "all about America", Obama is "ABOVE THAT", he's "ABOVE US ALL, LIKE GOD".
The free market works, Government controls always fail.
Liberals think that
June 11, 2009 - 13:40 ET by RR GOPLiberals think that everybody only does what they are programmed to do by someone else. That's their modus operandi.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).
I don't know of a bigger Judaphile
June 11, 2009 - 14:03 ET by danebramageon talk radio than Rush Limbaugh. How these morons can twist his (imho) overly enthusiastic love for Israel and the Jewish people into hatred for Israel and the Jewish people is beyond me.