On Wednesday night's "Hardball," Chris Matthews used several different animal references to depict the battle between Barack Obama and Rush Limbaugh as he likened the fight to wrestling with "a walrus," and getting into "a peeing match with a skunk," and claimed Limbaugh thinks he is Charlie Brown's dog: "He's Snoopy! He thinks he's taking on the Red Baron."
Matthews devoted several segments to the Democratic strategy of attacking Limbaugh and opened the show with the following monologue/diatribe:
CHRIS MATTHEWS: Leading off tonight. Pomposity on parade! Not since Snoopy challenged the Red Baron in the Peanuts cartoon have we witnessed an episode of such preposterous pomposity. Rush Limbaugh today challenged the President of the United States to come and debate him in his Palm Beach radio booth. What's the radio man thinking of? What were the Democratic wags thinking of when they invited themselves and the President into this walrus wrestle? Was it poll data that convinced them of the smart politics in matching themselves against the man with the mic, passing over such dashing conservatives of Congress like John Boehner and Mitch McConnell? However it started it's come to this to what happened today, to this ultimate jumping of the shark.
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And before Matthews concluded his show he had one final cheap shot at the conservative talk show host's expense:
We're gonna have an award tomorrow night, a "Hardball Award," tomorrow night. And I think everybody who's watching knows who's gonna get it for dominating the news the last week. Somebody who's never been elected to anything, has no responsibilities on this planet except talking. Who has no duties whatsoever except to talk. Has dominated the world stage. He has dominated the debate with the White House. He has made himself bigger than even he was before and I mean in every way bigger. We're gonna give a "Hardball Award," tomorrow night to somebody really big, in more ways than one.
The following are just some of the Limbaugh tidbits from the March 4, edition of "Hardball":
MATTHEWS: Leading off tonight. Pomposity on parade! Not since Snoopy challenged the Red Baron in the Peanuts cartoon have we witnessed an episode of such preposterous pomposity. Rush Limbaugh today challenged the President of the United States to come and debate him in his Palm Beach radio booth. What's the radio man thinking of? What were the Democratic wags thinking of when they invited themselves and the President into this walrus wrestle? Was it poll data that convinced them of the smart politics in matching themselves against the man with the mic, passing over such dashing conservatives of Congress like John Boehner and Mitch McConnell? However it started it's come to this to what happened today, to this ultimate jumping of the shark.
...
LAWRENCE O'DONNELL: The President is gonna encounter real opposition to his agenda among Republicans. What they want to do is spin that opposition to appear as if it's coming from nothing but the nutty Limbaugh section of this party. If they can associate it with that, then that will help them overcome that opposition.
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MATTHEWS: I tell ya it's Snoopy and the Red Baron, there's no doubt about it. Nothing like it. He's up there flying around with his goggles on and his hat. He's Snoopy! He thinks he's taking on the Red Baron. I'm not gonna stop with that one.
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MATTHEWS: Here's Rush Limbaugh, I compare him to Snoopy thinking he's fighting the Red Baron up in the skies in World War I. This pomposity, this notion that the President of the United States is really gonna come down to your radio booth, down in Palm Beach and sit there and talk to you because you invited him in this sort of macho man number is only not funny to the people who call themselves "Dittoheads." I mean they take this guy seriously, don't they? I mean they really believe this is a serious, sort of challenge. Throwing down the gauntlet or whatever.
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MATTHEWS GOING TO BREAK: I think the old line is don't get in a peeing match with a skunk, right?
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MATTHEWS CONCLUDING SHOW: We're gonna have an award tomorrow night, a "Hardball Award," tomorrow night. And I think everybody who's watching knows who's gonna get it for dominating the news the last week. Somebody who's never been elected to anything, has no responsibilities on this planet except talking. Who has no duties whatsoever except to talk. Has dominated the world stage. He has dominated the debate with the White House. He has made himself bigger than even he was before and I mean in every way bigger. We're gonna give a "Hardball Award," tomorrow night to somebody really big, in more ways than one.
—Geoffrey Dickens is the senior news analyst at the Media Research Center.




















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Chrissy is an Obama leg man!
March 4, 2009 - 18:56 ET by FastEdand he's afraid that people will begin to see that "Obama LIED". He can't bring himself to the realization that he is pushing this cowardly agenda, based on lies, and that taxpayers are, very slowly, putting two and two together. Crissy, and the others doing the water lift - what will you do, or more specifically, what will you say, when the LIES become VERY apparent? Hint: try the admin approach -say you're sorry, somebody will believe you.
Oh, and Crissy - one more thing - Snoopy's side WON! Next time try a different analogy.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
well then
March 4, 2009 - 19:05 ET by 10ksnookerI assume Obama butt boy recommends Obama ought to get it on one on one with Rush and prove butt boy right.... Right?
Obama lied, the economy died.
"Hardball Award"?
March 4, 2009 - 18:56 ET by SickofLibsDear CM's Leg: your left testicle has been doing a similar schtick for about 5 years now (WPITW).
Look upwards.
Are these brains
March 4, 2009 - 18:59 ET by FastEdor lower?
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
Chrissy and Larry
March 4, 2009 - 18:58 ET by JohnJDunbarIs there nothing more laughable than having two liberal failures discussing Rush. These people are more concerned about putting down the Republicans and Limbaugh then they are about the destructive and economically crippling the Dems and the Messiah are pushing.
There is going to be long term suffering for many Americans if this agenda continues. High un-employment, inflation, and anger. But they take White House talking points...Little Rahms Rants, and start the show with how Rush is hurting the Republican Party, and the challenge to the Messiah.
I am sure that all the mens bathrooms at MSNBC have had the urinals removed, as all the men that work there squat to pee!
"Somebody who's never
March 4, 2009 - 19:07 ET by gopsteve"Somebody who's never been elected to anything, has no responsibilities
on this planet except talking. Who has no duties whatsoever except to
talk."
I do not get it...was Chrissy referring to himself?
As Alfalfa said more than
March 4, 2009 - 19:16 ET by FranksamAs Alfalfa said more than once to Spanky, "You took the words right out of my mouth."
gopsteve
March 4, 2009 - 22:03 ET by NorthCoasterChrissy had to be referring to himself, there is no other possibility.
LAWRENCE O'DONNELL: The
March 4, 2009 - 19:10 ET by MidAmericaLAWRENCE O'DONNELL: The President is gonna encounter real opposition to his agenda among Republicans. What they want to do is spin that opposition to appear as if it's coming from nothing but the nutty Limbaugh section of this party. If they can associate it with that, then that will help them overcome that opposition.
This a big mistake by team obama. Opposition is building against the obama policies every day. If the democrats annoint Rush as the leader of the opposition that will only enhance his popularity and give a free ride to the Republicans in Congress who actually do the voting.
Not only that
March 4, 2009 - 19:23 ET by FastEdbut, if the demolibs keep pushing Rush, the republicans can always say it was Rush, and not them, that said things against the pres - fall guy works both ways, and they're too stoooopid to realize.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
Magician tricks
March 4, 2009 - 20:44 ET by KC MulvilleWhen they tell you that they're spinning it, it defeats the purpose of spinning it in the first place. "Here's how we're going to distort things."
I heard all of this jsut a
March 4, 2009 - 19:20 ET by bigtimerI heard all of this jsut a bit ago...poor Matthews, he has a case of the green-eyed monster.
I love what these talking heads are doing, this is the best there is...they are not only hurting their own pathetic lots in life, they are helping the conservative party with Rush Limbaugh leading the way!
Btw...they are helping us in more ways than one too...this will bring much attention to what the FCC will try to do with the Fairness Doctrine via Durbin's amendment...
Thank you Rush...
Miracles do happen!
You don't mean
March 4, 2009 - 19:25 ET by FastEdUnintended consequences? Sorta like when they wanted a 'special prosecutor, that came back to bite.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
bt - by focusing on physical appearances, it seems
March 4, 2009 - 19:34 ET by Cape ConservativeMr. Slim & Trim himself is nothing more than a case of 'the pot calling the kettle black' - more playground tactics - but why should we expect anything else from Mr. Tingle Up His Leg???
And---he wants to define himself as a professional?????
It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue. ~ Sam Adams
Yes, but...
March 4, 2009 - 19:34 ET by dborschjr68...I believe the "president" was told about this challenge, and now those of us who heard it live are wondering, "Will Obama really do it? Will he actually debate Mr. Limbaugh?"
I don't think Mr. Limbaugh was pissing about. I believe he was spot-on serious. This would be a golden opportunity for Obama to silence Mr. Limbaugh, provided he could actually win this debate. I mean, why not, Obama? You have nothing to lose, except your pride, and everything to gain if you did win. C'mon, take the step up to the plate, Obama. Go down to Florida and do your darnedest to silence this upstart Mr. Rush Limbaugh.
Just remember, Obama, you started this. It was you, Obama, who told Republicans in Congress to not listen to Mr. Limbaugh. You owe it to all of us to man-up and debate Mr. Limbaugh.
And to all my fellow Conservative and patriotic NB posters: If this does happen, you are invited over to my house to listen to this debate as loudly as allowed by local law, eat nachos, and then send blistering emails to all the Democrats in the House and Senate. It'll be a fun time, and you can bring the kids. (I have a big backyard and they can play outside!)
F**K Socialism.
GREAT post!!! It seems that 'the one' can't perform
March 4, 2009 - 19:41 ET by Cape Conservativecorrectly unless he has a teleprompter in front of him! Reading someone else's words! First out of the gate tasteless comment regarding a seance directed at Nancy Reagan - and I'll put a nickel on it that he wishes he'd never uttered this statement about Rush!
Love to join you for the nachos but KNOW he will never accept the challenge!
Will the libs never learn?????
It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue. ~ Sam Adams
CC... Right you are he
March 4, 2009 - 19:54 ET by bigtimerCC...
Right you are he won't debate him, Rush has asked him to come on his show before and if memory serves me correctly, offered to debate with him before about the Stimulus BS anywhere, O stated that he would be all ears to anyones views they have to offer that had a better proposal etc, Rush wrote an article about all of his ideas...he was ignored as usual..
Now this debate that Rush was talking about today was on his radio show...with the EIB studio, televised if he wanted it to be (a caller prompted some of the details that Rush was saying he would do) anyway, poor ol O wouldn't be able to use a teleprompter....heheheee!
In other words...he couldn't do it...he would be rendered useless.
our resident defender of
March 4, 2009 - 21:45 ET by TruthMongerour resident defender of the free world is too afraid to confront a TALK SHOW HOST!!!?
we can all sleep safe and soundly tonight
I tell you what
March 4, 2009 - 22:02 ET by nwahsI'll send Noel Sheppard a check for $100 if you agree to the same. If Rush debates any competent Democrat ( doesn't have to be Obama) about Obama's policy, Noel can send the money to your charity. If he doesn't debate anyone in a month, we send it to my choice of charity.
Deal? There's trust all over this. I trust you, trust Noel , and some charity gets $200.
Beware of a crazy woman throwing a hash pipe.
nwahs
March 4, 2009 - 22:26 ET by NorthCoasterObama has sent an old fellow as a surrogate to "take care of" Hannity. Hannity was kind and gentle to the bgentleman but could have cleaned his clock if he wasn't so civilized. I would think that Rush would do the same to a surrogate. If the surrogate was uncivil, he would clean his clock and wipe the floor with what was left.
P.S. Your deal hinges on a debate occuring in a month. The original for airtime on his show, has been out for a year and has Obama responded positively? It's a heads I win, tails you loose setup.
All this is an illustration of Rush's excuse today
March 4, 2009 - 23:01 ET by nwahsAfter all this saber rattling, the second caller of Rush's show asked him point blank if he would debate a prominent Democrat, be it a Cabinet member or perhaps President Clinton, on prime time television, about Obama's policy. Rush seemed a little taken aback ( which is not usual for Rush), and said he wouldn't do because he didn't want the networks to profit off of him. Well now comes the thunderous chorus for him to put up or shut up and do it for charity.
It was a tactical blunder (unless of course Rush has acquired the skill of debate). This isn't going to go away. Terms for a debate are going to come, that are going to make Rush look like a crawfish. This is a peculiar tactical error for Rush. It had him spitting today.
Beware of a crazy woman throwing a hash pipe.
nw... He wasn't taken
March 4, 2009 - 23:19 ET by bigtimernw...
He wasn't taken aback whatsoever...Rush was talking about debating O not some other cabinent member or any other leftist anywhere, he was trying to get that across to the nit-wit planted leftist that called his show, like tons of others that were flooding his lines according to Snerdly...anyway, you spin away all you want, some of us listened to the show...Rush having to explain himself and what he meant when he spoke words previously, constantly to those on the Rio Linda side of the aisle is pathetic, typical, but nevertheless pathetic.
Can you give me a list
March 4, 2009 - 23:51 ET by nwahsCan you give me a list of people that have challenged the sitting President of the United States to a debate outside of a presidential campaign? I want to see how weird the list looks. You see nothing bizarre in Rush's behavior?
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nwahs
March 5, 2009 - 00:04 ET by RESTLESS 1Rush probably figures someone should debate the 0, since McCain never seemed too interested in doing so.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
nw... Oh nice way to try
March 5, 2009 - 00:05 ET by bigtimernw...
Oh nice way to try to twist your way out of above posts between us...you were trying to portray something that happened on Rush's show that didn't happen because some of us here listen to him...so you change the subject...to now I'm supposed to provide you with some list...
...Oh how tricky...
Kind of like how wrong you were about Matthews and Rush being bestest buddies eh?
oh
March 5, 2009 - 09:30 ET by nwahsOh quit whining ;)
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Can you give me a list
March 5, 2009 - 08:21 ET by KarmaCan you give me a list of sitting Presidents who have singled out a person who challenges them? You don't see Obama's behavior as bizarre?
Healthcare...Food...Education...Housing... - What sprouted as free for some is maturing into a free-for-all.
double
March 5, 2009 - 11:03 ET by Liberalliesdouble
oops double
March 5, 2009 - 11:02 ET by Liberalliesoops double
→ futbolisgreat! LTNS
March 5, 2009 - 11:03 ET by Cool ArrowWish I could argue with you, but you seem to have hit a mountainous vein of truth.
Obama - Change you can bereave in
Cool arrow,I have
March 5, 2009 - 11:29 ET by LiberalliesCool arrow,
I have listened to Rush Limbaugh since I was a tweenager. My father used to have him on all the time. Liberals have always hated him because he speaks the truth and because he has such a huge following.
Now granted, Rush's personal life is not exactly one to be hold up to light, however, we are all sinner. Something that escapes the vast majority of Liberals.
One of the reasons I like Rush so much is because he is one of the few that brings to light what is happening in my old country. Loved it yesterday when he pointed out that Hugo Chavez is doing to Venezuela's private media what Obama is doing to him.
I thought his CPAC speech was awesome and I believe he said what needs to be done in order for Republicans to come back from the wilderness. The sad thing is that you have idiots like David Frum and other Rhinos that are more interested in poll numbers rather than principles.
Obama is out to destroy Conservatism and the Republican party. He is not looking to stand up to the opposition party, he is looking to destroy it. The sooner the Rhinos in our mists understand this, the sooner the Republicans will come back.
I have Democrat friends who worked for Rahm Emanuel, it is NOT by mistake the Obama chose him as his right hand man. Emanuel is cold, calculated, cruel and will destroy anyone that stands on his way. The man is the equivalent of a ruthless killer in politics.
→ CPAC
March 5, 2009 - 11:34 ET by Cool ArrowI sat in front of the TV spellbound for over two hours listening to Rush touch on just about everything I believe in.
Some of the best viewing I've had the privilege to experience.
Obama - Change you can bereave in
Me too
March 5, 2009 - 11:47 ET by nwahsI heard angels.
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Nwahs, You REALLY! need
March 5, 2009 - 11:01 ET by LiberalliesNwahs,
You REALLY! need to stop going into the left wing websites. I listened to Rush's full three hours yesterday. I also read later on in the day the same thing that you typed above on left wing websites.
Rush was NOT taken back by the second caller, he was frustrated at the Liberal seminar callers who want him to debate on their terms. As he explained to the caller, he only wants to debate President Obama not his butt-boys or lackeys.
Isn't Obama suppose to be this immense, incredible, super, duper genius? Why are Liberals terrified now? Additionally, Obama speaks of bipartisanship. It would give so much credibility to his bipartisanship calls if he met with someone like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, etc. Why won't he do it?
I also ask you, Nwahs, when was the last time that you saw a White House go after private citizens for the mere fact that they criticized a sitting President? eh? I know the answer...do you?
I thought you Liberals were against the government going after private citizens who had not committed a crime? For the past 8 years all I heard is how the poor, innocent citizens of America were losing their rights and being prosecuted by the Bush administration. Now we have real case proving that the Obama administration is going after a private citizen and Liberals like you are more worried about what he has said than the fact that the Obama administration is going after a private citizen.
Your hypocrisy would be laughable if it wasn't so Stalin like the actions being taken by Obama. Don't you find it weird that the Obama administration is more worried about destroying the life and character of private citizens than running our nation?
Of course what Obama wants to do is stifle all dissent. Silence the opposition, so he and his socialist pigs can do whatever they want. Liberals screamed, yelled and claimed the past 8 years that dissent was patriotic. Now somehow dissenting from Obama’s policies is unpatriotic and ludicrous? You Liberals are walking hypocrites.
by the way....did you read the story of Hugo Chavez going after the private media sector in order to silence the opposition? Looks eerily similar to what the Obama administration is doing to Rush.
I have always founded interesting that Rush Limbaugh's harshest critics do not listen to his show.
You fail to understand
March 5, 2009 - 11:45 ET by nwahsObama's administration is helping Rush. They are helping a private citizen expand his base and explain "conservatism as articulated by [him]." Consider it more reaching out across the aisle. Its an "effeminate" gesture from "ballerina" Rahm Emanuel in a bipartisan effort to help a private citizen expand his base. I don't understand what the Rush fans are whaling about. They should be thanking the White House.
Beware of a crazy woman throwing a hash pipe.
Nwahs, Very true, they
March 5, 2009 - 17:13 ET by LiberalliesNwahs,
Very true, they are helping Rush expand his base. However, they are also going after Rush Limbaugh's character. It is the old 1990s Clinton Era tactic. Let us not address the issue, let us just assasinate the individuals character. We destroy the messengers character and no one will listen to the truth that his is speaking.
Liberals like you should be the first ones screaming and yelling at the Obama administration for going after a private citizen for the mere fact that this private citizen has decided to question Obama's policies and stand up against Obama's policies.
For 8 years Liberals like you decried the Bush administration for allegedly going after poor, innocent American citizens. Now that it is truly happen, you embrace and suck up to the administration that is doing it. How do Liberals like you live with your simple minded hypocrisy?
The issue is that there are countless of Obama's lackies, public figures, private citizens, politicians, who are now claiming that it is unpatriotic to want a President's policies to fail. Funny, the past 8 years all we heard from the Liberals is that it was patriotic to dissent. That it was the moral duty of American citizens to stand up to President Bush. Let us not forget Screaming Hillary Clinton giving a speech exactly about this. Once again, how do Liberals like you live with your simple minded hypocrisy?
A true bipartisan effort would be Obama and his butt-boys to set up a real debate, an exchange of ideas with Rush Limbaugh. I ask you, Nwahs. If Obama is suppose to be this super, duper genius. Who is so incredibly eloquent, who has a complete grasp of the issue, what better way to get rid of Rush Limbaugh than to debate him and make him look like the biggest idiot on planet Earth, right?
useful fools like you believe that a bipartisan effort is Obama having THREE Republican Senators voting for his ridiculous "stimulus" packet and over ten Democrats in Congress voting against it, right?
When will you Obama worshiping fools realize that Obama is no different than the countless of politicians that reside in Washington DC?
Do you need me to point out all the campaign promises that he has already broken?
Man, you Obamabots are sad creatures.
~He's not an Obama fan
March 5, 2009 - 17:22 ET by choselife3xHe's just not a Rush fan.
Hope and Change= Despair and Socialism
fut... Great to see you
March 5, 2009 - 17:31 ET by bigtimerfut...
Great to see you here...miss your posts when your gone.
Hey, Obama was the one who
March 5, 2009 - 09:06 ET by fitzfongHey, Obama was the one who designated Limbaugh the leader of the opposition. Why should Limbaugh be required to slum it with one of Obama's low-level goons? If Obama is so damn confident in his policies, he should have the courage to accept the challenge and defend them himself. This is what you asked for, nwahs. But don't hold your breath, we all know Obama's a coward...he's never faced a real opponent in his life. Whenever he's been faced with any significant competition, he's simply sent out his assorted shysters, scribes and dumpster divers to wipe that competition out before the day of reckoning.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
Are you suggesting
March 4, 2009 - 20:37 ET by FastEd"It seems that 'the one' can't perform" that we may have presidential dysfunction? Or that 'the one' doesn't have a pair?
If he really is as smart as the media "thinks" he is, then he won't accept, and he'll tell Gibbs to NOT say another word - the more attention, the more the LIE comes to the surface. AND, the real worry for the "media" is that if this debate goes forward, Talk Radio will prove the death of the lame stream and the paper rags. Seems like a win-win - too bad there isn't a payout, my new "fees" are catching up to my promised stimuls.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
So the Big Zero will never accept the challenge?
March 4, 2009 - 20:58 ET by needleIn that case Obama’s biggest champion should come forward to do the honors.
I MEAN YOU, CHRIS MATTHEWS!!
It is way past time to put your money where your sewer of a mouth is.
Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.
~What state are you in?
March 4, 2009 - 19:44 ET by choselife3xHope and Change= Despair and Socialism
Thanks for the invitation
March 4, 2009 - 19:58 ET by jdlybrandConsider this post my RSVP. Wouldn't want to miss it.
"If you've got the time, we've got the beer"
Political calculation backfires
March 4, 2009 - 19:34 ET by richb313It was a Political Calculation to Elevate Rush Limaugh as the Voice/Leader of the Republican Party and thereby be able to move the moderates Republicans and the Center to the left. I was wondering how Rush would respond to the article in the Politico that appeared last night. Well he not only raised, but Doubled Down. He knows that Obama will never accept the Invite which Rush says he will foot the bill for so as not to use taxpayers dollars. Rush does not play by thier rules, he does not have to. He is not a politician. I imagine the next thing we will see will be full page adds calling Obama out.
It is a cheap stunt, but an effective one. The Obama team have only themselves to blame. Everyday more people are getting curious and more people are viewing the CPAC SPEECH and saying to themselves, "Hey this guy isn't the demon he is made out to be. In fact I think I kind of agree with him."
The left will never like Rush. He does not care. The recent ratings books have Rush way up. The upshot is this, what appeared just yesterday to be a smart political calculation now seems to prove it is just another dumb idea coming from the "Most Intelligent President Ever"
rich - from the "Most Intelligent President Ever" ...as long
March 4, 2009 - 19:44 ET by Cape Conservativeas he's reading someone else's words from a teleprompter ;-)
It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue. ~ Sam Adams
richb313
March 4, 2009 - 22:31 ET by NorthCoasterGood comments. I don't particularly care if the Left ever "gets" what Rush and Conservatism is really about. All I care is that so called moderates stop and listen long enough to hear that the truly have more in common with Conservatives than with Liberals. This widespread exposure of Rush can only add to the ranks of those claiming the Conservative mantel.
Chris Matthews
March 4, 2009 - 19:51 ET by sherylsimsChrissy is just jealous of Rush because Obama knows he (Rush) exists.
Chrissy
March 4, 2009 - 19:53 ET by jdlybrandYou are a pathetic excuse for a man. Go to the doctor and take care of your restless leg syndrome. And while you're on the way, take your buddy Olberscum and drop him off at the anger management seminar. The two biggest pieces of crap to hit the planet since God made man.
Since Obama was the one with
March 4, 2009 - 20:09 ET by ckc1227Since Obama was the one with the smelly campaign plane, does that mean he is the skunk?
Pulling for the Red Baron
March 4, 2009 - 20:47 ET by KC MulvilleYeah ... and if this metaphor applies, Matthews is pulling for the Red Baron. It's a metaphor gone screwy.
I think the metaphore sucks
March 4, 2009 - 22:34 ET by NorthCoasterI actually visualize Rush as Eddie Richenbacher, the American Ace blowing the Red Baron out of the sky!
ROFLMAO!!!!
Chrissy, What world are you living in?
Yeah, I just wish Rush
March 4, 2009 - 22:43 ET by JerYeah, I just wish Rush could have borrowed Eddie's scarf for his CPAC appearance.
Jer
Jer
March 4, 2009 - 22:52 ET by NorthCoasterYes, along with the goggles and leathers. Such a dashing figure .... ............. oops, I was getting too close to committing a chrisism and I needed to back off.
Hey, maybe that's a way for Rush to raise his polling numbers with women!
Too bad it wasn't Eddie
March 5, 2009 - 09:45 ET by NL207Too bad it wasn't Eddie Rickenbacher who shot down the Red Baron. Manfred von Richtofen was killed violating one of his own rules: Do not engage the enemy at low altitude over enemy lines lest you fall prey to enemy Antiaircraft fire.
Fighter Combat - tactics and maneuvering
March 5, 2009 - 10:22 ET by nwahsRobert L Shaw
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I served, roughly
March 6, 2009 - 00:30 ET by NL207I served, roughly speaking, contemporaneously with Shaw. In fact, both of us know, or should I say, knew, Chic Burlingame, who was killed by the terrorists aboard United 77. If I am not mistaken, Chic was an instructor in the Phantom when Shaw was training.
There are two 'books' on fighter combat. Shaw's and Dicta Boelcke.
The lessons we learned came very much from Dicta Boelcke. Much of what Shaw put in his book, was taught to him by those trained under Dicta Boelcke.
Oswald Boelcke was the CO of Jasta 11. He trained Manfred von Richtofen. He developed the first code of fighter tactics.
Richtofen is a special case. Most aces count an assortment of nobodies as their tote. Richtofen is a glaring exception, the reason he was so widely hated and feared. Of his 81 kills, virtually all of which were confirmed, somthing on the order of 27 were enemy aces themselves. He was the Ace killer. He killed your leader, and if you did not flee, he or his followers killed you too.
My favorite aviator? The German, Hans-Joachim Marseille. read about him and you will understand.
My familiarity with Shaw
March 6, 2009 - 01:24 ET by nwahsMy familiarity with Shaw comes from WWII air combat simulators. The simulators became so realistic, his book (Fighter Combat: Tactic and Maneuvering) became the help guide :) I remember in the early 90's he was interviewed about his book being used as a help guide ( or bible) in these simulators. He stated he didn't really like "video games." Eventually he bacame a particpant in the *sport* He flew under the handle of Mouse.
Are you a pilot?
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OMO nwahs
March 6, 2009 - 01:28 ET by BlondeYou are so pathetic to even ask such a question!
You are a sim pilot, eh?
Happy landings, fella.
<edit> abject apologies, NL. <edit>
I hope he fails, too.
I need no defense. Thank
March 6, 2009 - 01:36 ET by NL207I need no defense. Thank you. nwahs, when he gets over his boredom might figure things out on his own.
No defense.
March 6, 2009 - 01:44 ET by BlondeDirect comment on nwahs' stupidity.
You know me rather well, NL....I hate dumb.
My apologies if I butted in where I wasn't wanted.
I hope he fails, too.
Let nwahs find his own way.
March 6, 2009 - 01:45 ET by NL207Let nwahs find his own way.
You are a crazy woman
March 6, 2009 - 01:54 ET by nwahsI say I've played WWII combat sims and you have an orgasm?
Are you like porky pig crazy? I played Air Warrior from 1992-1999 and Aces High from 2001-2005. You find that like really freaky? Iternet online games freak you out? That was a bizarre response.
You are one goofy woman.
Beware of a crazy woman throwing a hash pipe.
You are a gross pig.
March 6, 2009 - 01:57 ET by BlondeI wasn't talking to you, backward shawn.
Go away.
I hope he fails, too.
Quit whining
March 6, 2009 - 02:02 ET by nwahsQuit your whining
Beware of a crazy woman throwing a hash pipe.
*
March 6, 2009 - 02:04 ET by BlondeI hope he fails, too.
Thats the most sense you've ever made
March 6, 2009 - 02:10 ET by nwahsYou wrote " "
I see you've emptied your brain.
Beware of a crazy woman throwing a hash pipe.
Oh, ha ha ha
March 6, 2009 - 02:17 ET by BlondeYou are going to have to do alot better than that, updefucht shawn.
Totally pathetic.
BTW....do you have a clue why I did that?
Waiting.
I hope he fails, too.
I dunno
March 6, 2009 - 02:21 ET by nwahsSomething to do with you riding your big horse down the beach, your long blond hair flying in the wind, as muscle bound men drop to their knees at your magnificent beauty? That or you're just kooky with kooky fantasies?
Beware of a crazy woman throwing a hash pipe.
No...that would be you.
March 6, 2009 - 02:32 ET by BlondeI put the * there to peg your stupid post.
So you couldn't edit it.
Keep thrashing there, though.
As to the rest of your silly fantasy....sheesh....get a grip. NB is a media bias site...take your silly fantasies elsewhere, fella.
I hope he fails, too.
*
March 6, 2009 - 02:41 ET by nwahsBeware of a crazy woman throwing a hash pipe.
The von Richtofen who was
March 6, 2009 - 00:01 ET by JerThe von Richtofen who was eventually downed and killed--whether by a rifle shot from the ground or air-to-air gunnery--was neither physically nor psychologically the pilot he had been during his earlier days of aerial supremacy.
Jer
§ Ummm...Why is MSM Dismissing Debate??
March 4, 2009 - 20:20 ET by TheSterMe thinks they know Obama will get his @SS KICKED.
They know it.
Olby just said it's like The Globetrotters vs. The Washington Generals to Howard Fineman. They <snicker>.
Hmmmm....
Ster.
My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.
Ster
March 4, 2009 - 22:47 ET by JerIt ain't gonna happen. But, if it did, Rush would be left picking up the other half of his brain off the floor.
Jer
Why would Rush want to
March 5, 2009 - 08:34 ET by fitzfongWhy would Rush want to pick the other half of Obama's brain off the floor? It's highly toxic and barely functioning. Just call in HASMAT.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
Forget Matthews
March 4, 2009 - 20:20 ET by woburn828Newbusters should forget about Matthews. No one watches. A bigger concern is that millions of young HS and college age students are being feed this nonsense daily. Most kids have no idea what is happening to the economy. Their parents are working hard to put them through school only to offset by tenured leftest teachers.
The bigger concern is the money grab by the education establishment, among "other" groups.
Matthews is yesterdays news. Probably had a tax problem as well which is why he opted out of running for Spector's seat.
But wait a minute...
March 4, 2009 - 20:29 ET by jdlybrand... wouldn't that be an automatic qualification for a seat in the Obama administration?
Good Point
March 4, 2009 - 20:35 ET by woburn828I guessed I did not think that thru. Bonus points for being a tax cheat.
→ Alan Colmes
March 4, 2009 - 20:33 ET by Cool ArrowColmes (on O'Reilly) just compared Rush to the 800 lb gorilla.
Does this mean primate jokes involving Obama are fair game now?
We won the cold war! Why did we surrender?
Would that mean
March 4, 2009 - 20:43 ET by FastEdObama is the "American Tourister"? As much as he would get nocked around, the media will prop him up, 'cause he didn't get "opened up" by Rush.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
The reference to "jumping the shark" was for the Democrats
March 4, 2009 - 20:44 ET by c5thenThey have chosen to attack the keeper of the conservative flag. They have gone after the voice that rallies the core of the GOP. Do they expect to be met with apology and bowed heads?
When someone is said to have "jumped the shark" it is a reference to the 'Happy Days' episode where Fonze actually jumped a shark on his motorcycle. It was the episode that people can point to where the ratings tanked and the show was canceled. To "jump the shark" means to do something that is the beginning of the end.
What Matthews was saying, either knowingly or subconsciously, was that the Dems have just committed a major screw-up.
Hey, I got the wrong "CHANGE"!
www.loyaltoliberty.com
Jump the shark?
March 4, 2009 - 21:12 ET by ScotSeaThink water skis...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpraJYnbVtE
well he did wear the
March 5, 2009 - 08:34 ET by seaniepwell he did wear the motorcycle jacket . . .
Magnum PI never jumped the shark
Rush would care about what you say perhaps Tingles...
March 4, 2009 - 21:13 ET by Lord Erond...but no one watches Hardball so we might be hard pressed to find someone to tell him.
"Wherever there is a jackboot stomping on a human face there will be a well-heeled Western liberal to explain that the face does, after all, enjoy free health care and 100 percent literacy."
and the weiner is...
March 4, 2009 - 21:41 ET by WesenIf the Swarzfuhrer wins the debate then Rush shuts everything down and lives in silence for the rest of his life.
It's a pretty good deal actually. If Barry has the stones Sinclair says he does then he will take care of business and rule America. I will put what's left in my SEP on Rush and if Barry wins I will volunteer my retirement in servitude to the Soetoro family in Kenya.
skunk
March 4, 2009 - 21:59 ET by bknownstWho would have thunk it? This is pretty cool, Mathews has the cajones to call Obama a skunk! Never thought we'd hear the weasel with a tingle down his leg say something negative about his dream guy.
As We ALL Know ...
March 4, 2009 - 22:27 ET by God Bless the USAChrissy is an A$$ on a soap box.
You would imagine that
March 4, 2009 - 23:07 ET by LiberalliesYou would imagine that after 8 years of Chrissy and his fellow crazed out, foaming at the mouth Liberals going after Bush and his administration for supposedly violating American citizens civil rights and supposedly going after innocent American citizens, he would be outraged when the American government publicizes that it is going after a private citizen to silence him and his opposition to the President of the United States. This should terrify everyone, right or left!
You have to love the hypocrisy of Liberals who for 8 years claimed that dissent was patriotic and questioning the President was patriotic.
and imagine that...a private citizen demanding to hold accountable his President. In this age of "Hope and Change" you would think that Libtards like Chrissy boy would be joining Limbaugh in demanding accountability and debate of policies.
Liberalism=hypocrisy
Chris Matthews is right!
March 4, 2009 - 23:08 ET by Conservative VoiceSnoopy = Lovable cool fuzzball, yep fits Rush Limbaugh
Red Baron = The Bad Guy
Tweety's Glass House
March 4, 2009 - 23:28 ET by OxyConMatthews has been aptly called "Tweety" for years now, due to his uncanny resemblance to the "Tweety" bird cartoon.
Not only that, but he just described himself when he said the following:
"Somebody who's never been elected to anything, has no responsibilities on this planet except talking. Who has no duties whatsoever except to talk. " - Matthews speaking of Rush Limbaugh
I think Matthews makes...
March 5, 2009 - 03:30 ET by jawebster1stupid comments just so he can appear on NewsBusters. Smart strategy Chris, since no one watches your show, this is your way of getting your name mentioned. He is obviously of the school that believes there is no such thing as "bad" publicity because that is just about the only kind of publicity "Tingles" gets around here. Am I right? Jim Webster
Chrissy's rants are simply
March 5, 2009 - 09:16 ET by fitzfongChrissy's rants are simply littered with ironic projection. Accusing Limbaugh of shadow boxing Obama? That's rich. Meanwhile Chrissy's shadow boxing Limbaugh. Preposterous pomposity? At least Limbaugh would have a reason to be pompous...he's got a huge following...one that this Jimmy Carter retread could only dream of approaching on MSDNC. What's your excuse? And isn't it a bit funny that Chrissy would so eagerly approach the fat jokes? Last I checked, the camera only added 10 pounds...let's just say Chrissy should avoid swimming around Japan, Russia or Norway.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill