On Monday night's "Hardball," Chris Matthews feared Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius, in her nomination fight to head HHS, would be a target of "the terrorism of the, of the anti-abortion people." Then perhaps realizing he called all pro-lifers terrorists, Matthews feebly attempted to amend the statement, as he tried to clarify, "I mean verbal terrorism."[audio excerpt available here]
The following exchange was aired during the March 2, edition of "Hardball":
CHRIS MATTHEWS: Let's talk about, let’s get to something really tough.
JONATHAN MARTIN, POLITICO: Sure.
MATTHEWS: Kathleen Sebelius, very likeable, very impressive. I think of the woman who becomes the governor in Mr. Holland’s Opus, remember the one who comes back?
LOIS ROMANO, WASHINGTON POST: Right.
MATTHEWS: Who becomes the governor, the woman governor. She looks like her, in fact. Is she gonna get through the, the terrorism of the, of the anti-abortion people?
ROMANO: Yeah I think she’s gonna do that and I think they’ve got a clear shot.
MATTHEWS: I mean verbal terrorism.
ROMANO: Yeah they’re, she’ll get through that.
MARTIN: I think she will, for one important reason. Sam Brownback, her home state senator, an ardent Catholic pro-lifer, Chris, has said kind things about her, signaling that he will not stand in her way. So if that’s any, sort of indication I think that bodes well for Sebelius.
MATTHEWS: But are we gonna have days and days of hearings about what she did about this guy who was a late-term abortion doctor?
MARTIN: I’m sure it’ll come up.
—Geoffrey Dickens is the senior news analyst at the Media Research Center.
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March 2, 2009 - 18:33 ET by RpeggioHe's so brilliant, pro-lifers are verbal terrorists...ok, stupid extreme statement, but using his logic, then pro-abortionists are actual terrorists, because they're for the beheading and tearing apart of fetuses/unborn babies.
How about being pro-adoption a-hole! Matthews is done, old news, even liberal friends of mine make fun of him and Olbermann.
Hmmm
March 2, 2009 - 19:49 ET by klchadwickHmmm, why doesn't it surprise me that your liberal friends make fun of Tingles and Bathtub Boy? I mean the fact that the two go after each other enough and make fun of each other often enough, basically shows how much they can't even really stand each other!
Seriously, what do you think it is like on set with the two of them when the cameras aren't rolling? Either dueling banjos or *cricket cricket cricket* is my guess. ;0)
Terrorism is now defined as opposing Obama
March 2, 2009 - 23:14 ET by bpjamMatthews still calls himself a Catholic - but the Catholic Church disavows him because of his advocacy for abortion.
From a network who thought it was okay for Obama to vote for post-birth abortion in Illinois, they will probably spin Sebelius as being 'to the right of Obama on abortion' and wonder if she is to 'moderate' a choice.
§ ALERT!! Sheister Corners Republican Senator!!
March 2, 2009 - 18:39 ET by TheSterSHOCKING!!!
Sen. John Barrasso (R) Min. was on Sheister's first segment and he tries no less then FOUR times to get Barrasso to say RUSH IS WRONG!!!
Give Sen. Barrasso KUDOS for NOT giving Sheister the sound byte he was looking for!!
...Then....
Sheisturd actually asks "How does lowering Taxes help Businesses hire new workers" ?!?!?
MSNBC will be on FIRE Tonight....
YES...I will watch Olby so YOU GUYS don't have to...I'll report back on how many times Keithy falls out of his chair...
Ster.
My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.
Ster...I caught it, Shyster
March 2, 2009 - 18:46 ET by bigtimerSter...I caught it, Shyster must have interrupted him umpteen times trying to get Barasso to say Rush was wrong...I wished they, the repubs would boycott msnbc...but I have been wishing that for years now...to no avail.
Btw...I am pretty sure he is from Wyoming.
Yeah, but
March 2, 2009 - 19:51 ET by klchadwickYeah, but then the Republicans would be as bad as the Dems refusing to appear in debates hosted by FOX. Do we really wan to do ANYTHING that equates us with the libs?
appreciate your sacrifice...
March 2, 2009 - 23:18 ET by bpjamI can't watch MSNBC for fear that I will do something bad to my wonderful Mitsubishi 65" HDTV.
My dogs also can't handle me watching MSNBC cuz they can't tell if I'm yelling at them and they all want to hide under the furniture.
Hey pissy
March 2, 2009 - 18:56 ET by 10ksnookerAre all liberals tax cheats, or does it just seem that way?
Not all, no. Just the supposed "best and brightest" who . . .
March 2, 2009 - 22:04 ET by CKA in Red State USA. . . His Hope-and-Change-ness wants to be part of his drive-America-into-the-ground-and-bury-it administration.
They're certainly showing that they're not patriots, aren't they, Mr. Vice President Biden?
No tingle for unborn...
March 2, 2009 - 19:03 ET by acumenIn all fairness to Chrissy, he does seem to know quite a bit about verbal terrorism.....the perfect balance to his spittle terrorism.
Ahhh, can't you just feel the change in civility/unity the chosen one has gifted to his peeps?
Who says elitist liberals
March 2, 2009 - 19:13 ET by ThisnThatWho says elitist liberals can't find a use for the word "Terrorism". All it takes is to play the oldest card in the liberal deck -- redefine any word you want, at the moment, to suit your needs. Logic be damned. It's the liberal way.
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The challenge is to follow a consistent plan despite inconsistent prices - Sarah Palin, State of the State of Alaska speech
Verbal terrorist?
March 2, 2009 - 19:38 ET by jackie3Chris, you do know you are the "pot" calling the kettle black? You excel at verbal terrorism.
Alexander Hamilton: "We are a Republican government. Real liberty is
never found in the despotism or in the extremes of a Democracy."
As someone who has had
March 2, 2009 - 19:48 ET by BDAs someone who has had contact with more than a couple terrorists, I gotta say Mathew is NUTS!
Telling someone they are either evil or just plain wrong on an issue pales in comparison to using a Barong to hack a persons head off their neck.
I guess I am now a terrorist for pointing out to Mathews he is a nut????
fair is fair
March 2, 2009 - 19:56 ET by candanceIf we are now to be called anti abortion I will call lefties anti life.
But acts of kindness and generosity must be free and voluntary; no man has a right to compel another to follow his conscience. This is a concern which lies between a man and his God.
-Richard Fuhrman, pro slave advocate, 1823
They can call me anything they wish. I'm proud to be pro-life...
March 2, 2009 - 22:01 ET by CKA in Red State USAThese haters of life are afraid of anyone who stands for life.
They hate us, too.
Indeed, they are anti-life.
And evil.
Hairball
March 2, 2009 - 20:00 ET by Lakewood BobIf Sam Brownback is an "ardent" Catholic, how could he in good conscience not stand in the way of a pro-abortionist? I suppose getting her out of Kansas is worth the hypocrisy!
I'd be happy
March 3, 2009 - 23:28 ET by Jack Hermanto get her out of my state, but I don't want the United States to be screwed because of it....
What does HHS stand for?
March 2, 2009 - 20:09 ET by MaytagI hope they challange her for supporting a doctor that KILLS babies by ripping thier heads off or sucking thier brains out. No wonder the arch bishop has denied her communion...
so trying to preserve human
March 2, 2009 - 20:21 ET by JAJTso trying to preserve human life is considered terrorism.
the things that Matthews/MSNBC and liberals can say just gets more and more ridiculous day by day.
More ridiculous? Respectfully, no. More evil and perverse.
March 2, 2009 - 21:59 ET by CKA in Red State USAWhat they are doing is waging war against life itself.
And what they say and do has the stench of hell and death all around and through it.
→ Kathleen Sebaceous
March 2, 2009 - 20:24 ET by Cool ArrowSebelius is the personal champion of Tiller the Baby Killer.
HHS? Makes perfect sense to Obama and his group of tax cheats.
He added another today. Ron Kirk.
We won the cold war! Why did we surrender?
"Kill, baby, kill"
March 2, 2009 - 21:36 ET by BarkerThat is the battle cry of the late-term butcher George Tiller.
**Columnist Robert Novak has called Sebelius "the national pro-choice poster girl."**
And why has that bigot Chris Matthews declared a jihad on innocent human life?
Too strong? Okay: A journalistic jihad.
Okay.
March 2, 2009 - 20:26 ET by moderncommentaries83So now defending life is "terrorism", but advocating the tearing apart of unborn children in the womb, at any stage of development, is noble work?
Heaven forgive us. Lord have Mercy, because we're all going to answer for this evil...
Aut viam inveniam aut faciam
We are already reaping the rot of this evil...
March 2, 2009 - 21:57 ET by CKA in Red State USAIf God is one of judgment -- and I believe that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, including Christ Jesus, the Son, is -- then He's removing His hand of mercy from America.
How can he not?
Through Roe v. Wade, we've now killed approximately the same number of humans that died or were killed as soldiers and civilians around the globe during World War II.
We've become a much more efficient, long-term killing machine than Hitler was. It took him about 12 years to kill six or so million Jews and other innocents. In the first four or five years of Roe v. Wade, we did that.
That the majority of the voting electorate elevated an infanticidist to power was a no-return turning point in America, I believe.
And given how abortionist-in-chief Obama's moved to advance abortion, remove protections from doctors and others who refuse to perform them and now selecting abortion-on-demand-supporter infanticidist Sebelius--Obama has become the merchant of death in anti-Christian America's culture of death.
We all have the blood of millions on our hands.
And it got worse on Nov. 4, 2008, and then formally on Jan. 20, 2009.
We are a spiritually perverse nation--and I cannot imagine that God will tolerate our behavior a lot longer.
We elected an evil man, a pretend Christian who does not even know that the Savior in which he claims to believe was a bringer of life.
And that evil man does only what's natural to him: He begets more evil on his staff.
To him and his cohorts in and out of his administration, including the advocacy/adversary media, life has no meaning.
But they are real men and women, aren't they? They plot against and speak against the most vulnerable of all humans. They make a mother's womb a battleground.
They have turned on life itself.
That's spiritually perverse and evil, IMO.
I don't disagree. Which
March 3, 2009 - 07:18 ET by moderncommentaries83I don't disagree.
Which is why, now during Lent and always, it's imperative to fast and pray for the salvation of our nation.
Anyone who thinks abortion is the "solution" to a woman's problems is, as you say, spiritually perverse and evil.
What's worse is what they do to women after an abortion. If a woman suffers mentally or physically, she's swept under the rug. I've had abortion advocates tell me any women who suffer ill mental effects from abortion were "crazy" to begin with and the abortion only triggered whatever mental problems were all ready there. That's really "compassionate" toward women and their health care, isn't it?
If she dies after an abortion, well, that's too bad for her. Sweep her corpse under the rug, too, and keep marching on with blather about how things were worse before Roe.
While I believe on this issue my conscience is clear, America chose to put the economy (which Obama will destroy anyway) above protecting life. Retribution will come and even those of us who oppose all abortion will suffer for the sinful ways of others.
Aut viam inveniam aut faciam
Kathleen Sebelius has a lot
March 2, 2009 - 20:38 ET by fitzfongKathleen Sebelius has a lot more to worry about than how she is perceived by those who oppose abortion (classy touch, Matthews). She has been a wretched Governor who's so incompetent at running the budget in her own state that she considered going delinquent on income tax refunds to her constituents. It is amazing how eagerly Obama embraces failure. He better hope that the whole of his appointments is a hell of a lot better than the sum of its parts.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
To Obama, failure is success . . .
March 2, 2009 - 21:41 ET by CKA in Red State USAWhen he destroys America and capitalism, he will have succeeded.
Given what I see, I don't think he cares whether his appointments, collectively or singly, are of any quality.
Remember: He won.
And the rest of us be damned.
Wow. I peacefully pray the
March 2, 2009 - 21:02 ET by EugeniaWow. I peacefully pray the holy rosary in front
of
abortion clinics and I'm a terrorist. Do such
thoughtless names
fall as easily from your lips regarding radical
Islamists? No.
But you're not a devout Catholic. The Church's
teachings are
anathema to you. You defend death of the innocent,
not life.
I'm not surprised but I am saddened by your
irresponsibility
that my praying for the conversion of
women seeking to have
their babies torn apart is terroristic, not the
abortionist.
The support
March 2, 2009 - 21:27 ET by RD Kingof the obamaone that I knew she had is enough for me to say no. I hadn't heard until now that she shared in the sadistic murderous practice of infanticide with the rad muslim. As Iv'e heard tell it's ironic that had his communist mother and grand parents shared his ideology we may not be suffering him now.
Sebelius, like Obama, needs to fear . . .
March 2, 2009 - 21:42 ET by CKA in Red State USA. . .not the anti-abortion people, but the Creator of life.
As for Brownback, he, like all Catholic and Protestant Christians, had better understand that there is no compromise regarding life: You're either for it, as the Christ was, or you aren't.
And if you aren't and you're a Catholic, well, then may the admonition of Pope to Nancy Pelosi deafen you.
It's disappointing to hear that yet another politician calling himself Christian and pro-life will yield to abortionist-in-chief Obama and his culture of death and administrators of death including, it appears, Sebelius.
As for the "verbal terrorism" of the anti-abortion folks?
Honestly, do Mathews and his ilk have any shred of common sense, decency and conscience left?
Rhetorical question.
Another so called Catholic
March 2, 2009 - 23:19 ET by Southern voterChris Matthews is also Catholic ....what a waste...to have as much visability and opportunities to speak out for life and he always chooses the opposite...just as the Kennedy's, Kerry's, Pelosi,Biden, and the rest of the Catholic politicians who appear to have sold their soul in order to be in the forefront to be able to have power and to protect 'choice ' ...
P.S. we didn't see ashes on Pelosis' forehead last week on Ash Weds....appears that little visit with the Pope helped her redefine the real meaning of 'choice'....
And thus another so-called Catholic scandal....
March 3, 2009 - 09:46 ET by lotrLet's be clear, though: He's CINO. Period. One cannot claim to love the Creator of Life above all things (as a Christian must) and simultaneously advocate the permissibility of killing the human person in utero. Christ Himself summed it up when He said "No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other."
And one by one dropped the revellers in the blood-bedewed halls of their revel, and died each in the despairing posture of his fall. -- Edgar Allan Poe
"abortion-doctor"?
March 2, 2009 - 22:19 ET by lotrThere's that pro-abortion euphemism appearing again. Margaret Sanger couldn't have put it better -- attah girl, Chris! So it's George Tiller, D.D. (Doctor of Death)?
And one by one dropped the revellers in the blood-bedewed halls of their revel, and died each in the despairing posture of his fall. -- Edgar Allan Poe
Matthews should be fired.
March 2, 2009 - 22:40 ET by TN MomMatthews should be fired. Where can I find a list of MSNBC advertisers/sponsors?
This time they've gone too far!
yes, he should be "terminated" from employment
March 3, 2009 - 09:34 ET by lotrBut don't worry, he, like other elitists in power, have positioned themselves to be rather bulletproof. This guy ain't about to give up his left-wing mass-media television terrorism posing for "objective analysis."
And one by one dropped the revellers in the blood-bedewed halls of their revel, and died each in the despairing posture of his fall. -- Edgar Allan Poe
btw, did Matthews bring up
March 2, 2009 - 22:43 ET by TN Mombtw, did Matthews bring up Gov Sebelius's son? The one who created the "Don't Drop the Soap" prison game?
TN MOM...
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You really want to hit MSNBC? Boycott General Electric, they own NBC/MSNBC/CNBC, & in the end, that is where the rubber meets the road. Don't buy GE light bulbs, don't buy GE dishwashers or ovens. Don't use GE Finance when buying big ticket items, like cars or major household items. If you are buying a jet aircraft, order Rolls Royce engines instead of GE. GE's share price is under $10, it used to be about $60, at some point, GE shareholders will demand changes.
Until then, SCREW GENERAL ELECTRIC. They don't deserve your buisiness.
"The Fairness Doctrine = Jim Crow laws for Conservatives". Jim Quinn from "Quinn & Rose"
danybohy
March 3, 2009 - 00:09 ET by TN Momthanks. You are right: GE is soley responsible! I NEVER buy GE lightbulbs, appliances and have posted on this subject of GE before.
A few months ago, I made an instant credit purchase and was furious when the bill came it was payable to GE. I paid in full so they wouldn't get one extra dime from me. I will not make that mistake again.
The real terrorism happens
March 3, 2009 - 00:46 ET by rbosqueThe real terrorism happens inside the abortion clinic.
How yanking a fetus out in
March 3, 2009 - 02:33 ET by RR GOPHow yanking a fetus out in pieces is not on the same level of real terrorism is beyond me.
What would an abortion doctor have to do to outrage these idiots, waterboard fetuses?
One of the 24% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 89% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
One More Nail In His "Objective" Coffin!
March 3, 2009 - 07:20 ET by GeneralAlChris Matthews reminds me somewhat of the Scarecrow in The Wizard of Oz. I'm anxiously awaiting his rendition of "If I Only Had A Brain!" As a matter fact, as the Obamessiah steers America down the road to Communism, I believe that many of the elitist media snobs will eventually be singing the same tune. As I observe the complaints and comments from these Phony Baloney Commie Cronies of the DNCP [Democratic National Communist Party], I can't help but think of my boyhood and a kid named Walt. A couple of kids and I got into a stone throwing fight on opposite sides of the creek by my house. Walt was supposedly my friend and was fishing beside me when the fight broke out. He asked to get out of there saying "Please leave me out of it!" He then crossed the bridge to the other side and proceeded to join the others in throwing stones at me. When his MOMMY appeared, he proceeded to lay all the blame at my feet and his Mommy called my Mom to complain. To me this is the illustration of the MSM and the DNCP in a nutshell. In the meantime, they're having a cow over at the NY Times, aka Pravda about our use of the term "Socialist." The truth hurts, doesn't it NYT and Chrissy?
WOW
March 3, 2009 - 07:30 ET by AJBCertainly it's those stupid right-wing fanatics that are just wrong wrong wrong. We need to come around to the new way of thinking. Being racist and trying to eliminate inner city babies is THE agenda of the liberal democrats. What's wrong with that? Just because they don't wear white robes, they're considered mainstream. Back in the day, they used to call people who killed blacks racist. Now, they're enlightened. I'm certainly in awe when I see who stands up to fight for the african-american genocide--funded by YOUR tax dollars.
Liberals -- funding and promoting the elimination of inner city babies since 1973
Matthews' Catholicsim
March 3, 2009 - 07:40 ET by kiwikitWhen will his Bishop give him a lecture on the tenets of his Church? His behaviror on the airwaves is scandalous to all the members of his Church who are real Catholics and not just 'pick and choose' pretenders. I assume Sibellius is the Matthews variety and think this is an opportunity for the American Church to set the record straight. If these anti-Catholics want to pretend to be something, they should start their own pretenders group where they can follow whatever cultural evils they choose. I'd like someone with more technical ability than I to send a copy of this guy's ranting about how being 'pro-live' is terrible, to his bishop. He certainly deserves public excommunication!
"He certainly deserves
March 3, 2009 - 10:11 ET by Texasteacher"He certainly deserves public excommunication!"
Screw that, how bout a good burning at the stake? We need a good Inquisition in this country. And I'm not even Catholic...
obama's notion of bi-partisanship is telling conservatives to shut up and do what he wants.
Marten: "I'm sure it will
March 3, 2009 - 07:41 ET by nadadhimmiMarten: "I'm sure it will come up". If Obama is in the subject, the only thing that will come "up" is Chrissy's little Chrissy. Obama is so dreamy, Chris just gets these adorable little tingles, it's just so CUTE.
The question Matthews should be asking...
March 3, 2009 - 09:05 ET by c5thenWill Hardball survive being at the bottom of the ratings for the 5pm time slot? Chrisy is getting destroyed by Glenn Beck.
For February Cable News (Jan 26-Feb20) Glenn Beck ranks 3rd with 2.173 mil viewers (right behind O'Reilly and Hannity) while Hardball ranks 25th with 740,000 viewers.
Hey, I got the wrong "CHANGE"!
www.loyaltoliberty.com
Yea rumor is Tingle is getting a cohost
March 3, 2009 - 10:18 ET by dark_dsYea rumor is Tingle is getting a cohost to pump his ratings up ... Vince from Spam Wow
"America is on the Short Bus to Socialism"
Hey little
March 3, 2009 - 10:09 ET by TexasteacherHey little crissy:
You want to talk about verbal terrorism? How 'bout your wet-dream of a president who makes the stock market tank EVERY TIME HE OPENS HIS MOUTH??? Any time that amateur opens his pie hole it's another 400 points lost. When are people going to wake up to this? 6000? 5000? 1000? You've either got to be a special kind of genius or a special kind of idiot to be able to destroy the stock market just by talking. That stupid SOB needs to be impeached and removed from office.
And let's discuss YOUR verbal terrorism. You are aiding the destruction of the American way of life. You think it's the media's job to help your savior? You would much rather dear obama run everything about everyone's life, wouldn't you? You are nothing but a detestable socialist pig just like your dear leader.
obama's notion of bi-partisanship is telling conservatives to shut up and do what he wants.
Didn't she just get "spanked"
March 3, 2009 - 10:10 ET by katiejaneby her local ArchBishop for her pro-abortion position? Maybe Chrissie's head guy should give that some thought.
The real terrorism goes on
March 3, 2009 - 10:24 ET by misterbee241The real terrorism goes on in the abortion mills, Chris. Pro-lifers are not terrorists.
"I dont need to read a newspaper to know the world's been shaved by a drunken barber."
Walter Brennan, The Colonel, Meet John Doe, 1941
good marketing
March 3, 2009 - 11:27 ET by AJBThey've sold it as 'choice' when its purely right out of the KKK's playbook. Eliminate inner city babies. Where are their white robes? Where is the indignation?
KKK
March 17, 2009 - 00:08 ET by UgottaBkiddinMeDid you know the KKK was founded by DEMOCRATS?
Yep. The KKK...
March 17, 2009 - 00:34 ET by Mother...was indeed founded by Dems.
Here's so more Dem racism food for thunk-ker-plunk:
http://www.scaruffi....
http://cghs.dadescho...
Tiller Sebelious combo special
March 3, 2009 - 10:40 ET by sevenTiller owns Sebelious. He has killed a good number of mothers during abortion. I wonder if that is terrorism?
Tiller is famous for protecting child mollestors and Sebelious is famous for vetos of laws to regulate abortuaries.
matthews
March 3, 2009 - 13:34 ET by east tennessee johnThe "terrorism" of the anti-abortion crowd. You think the fetus feels "terrorised" Mr. Tingly? It's almost to the point where if I turn on MSDNC anymore, for any reason, I just might have to end it all. This station is completely beyond rational comprehension with their purposeful distortions, unabashed cheerleading and misrepresentations. Save me. Why am I drawn to this train wreck?
Well Chrissy, you dumb-ass,
March 3, 2009 - 16:54 ET by Clear thinkerWell Chrissy, you dumb-ass, when are you going to stop terrorizing your viewers?
Yes We Can
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I have the answer, Clear thinker....
March 17, 2009 - 00:36 ET by Mother...When the 'tingle' turns into a 'wallet ache'. They always tuck tail and whimper at that point.
Awwwwwww.
Tingler
March 17, 2009 - 00:05 ET by UgottaBkiddinMeHow did this guy get this job? He has no clue what he talks about. He just seems to me to be someone who likes to stir up controversy with his demeaning banter.....if you can call it that, he's always talking over his guests....likes to hear himself talk I guess. I just wanna punch him when he does that.
As for the tingle that went up his leg, sounds like he may be in the closet....would someone please lock the door?
He must be an unusually miserable creature because you do reap what you sow.....he sows discord and alot of it.
I wonder how he'll react when Resident oblahblah is taken out of the White House in handcuffs and shackles when he is found guilty of fraud, treason, etc. See DefendOurFreedoms.us and check out all the evidence the Supreme Court now has in its possession. More than enuf to send that usurper, his wife, many members of the senate and congress, and anyone else who had a part in his crimes to the FEMA prison camps. You can be sure he'll take down with him, anybody he can as he tries to talk his way out of this mess. He is a liar, thief, and enemy of the US Constitution. To deport him would be a mistake since he is collaborating with the enemy even now....
I hope he get the gas chamber.