Lauer Fearmongers On Stimulus: 'Draconian Cuts' In 'Jobs, Teachers, Cops, Firemen'

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Matt Lauer invited on two Senate supporters and no opponents of Barack Obama's stimulus bill, on Monday's "Today" show and asked pro-stimulus bill questions to his guests, even chiding those who opposed it, when he asked Republican Senator Susan Collins about two of her GOP colleagues who are against it: "So what do you get that those two are not getting?" Lauer, also depicted a gloomy picture for the states because of "draconian cuts," made in the bill as he ominously asked: "Senator [Ben] Nelson, to get the support from even these moderate Republicans, cuts had to be made...You lose $40 billion in aid to the states, that means states are gonna have to make draconian cuts in jobs, teachers, cops, firemen. You lose the $16 billion in school construction money. So is it still a real stimulus package? Will it have clout?"

The only voices of opposition came in a Chuck Todd set-up piece, where a soundbite from John McCain saying the negotiations were not "bipartisan," was aired. A soundbite of stimulus opponent Sen. John Ensign was also aired but it only highlighted him admitting the bill will pass.

Lauer, in the interview segment, did cite concerns from Senators Richard Shelby and McCain, as he noted: "Richard Shelby the ranking Republican on the Senate Banking committee said Sunday, 'This bill could put our country on the road to financial disaster.' And John McCain said, 'It was generational theft,'" but then added the, "So what do you get that those two are not getting?" line he asked Collins.

The following is a complete transcript of Lauer's interview segment with Republican Senator Susan Collins and Democratic Senator Ben Nelson as it occurred on the February 9, "Today" show:

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MATT LAUER: Senators Susan Collins, a Republican from Maine and Ben Nelson, a Democrat from Nebraska played instrumental roles in crafting the Senate's version of the stimulus bill. Senators, good morning to both of you.

[On screen headline: "Stumping For Stimulus, Will Senate Back Obama Plan?"]

SUSAN COLLINS: Good morning.

BEN NELSON: Good morning.

LAUER: Senator Collins, let me start with you. Some of your Republican colleagues have expressed outrage over the spending in this bill. Richard Shelby the ranking Republican on the Senate Banking committee said Sunday, "This bill could put our country on the road to financial disaster." And John McCain said, "It was generational theft." He called for a bill about half its size. So what do you get that those two are not getting?

COLLINS: Well, first of all, we worked very hard to reduce the unnecessary spending in this bill. We cut more than $110 billion. But in fact, we need a stimulus package. And it has to be robust enough to do the job. We've made the infrastructure investments, we provided more than $200 billion in aid to the states. We have put together tax relief. I think it's a good package and one that our country really needs.

LAUER: Senator Nelson, to get the support from even these moderate Republicans, cuts had to be made. Senator Collins just alluded to some of those. You lose $40 billion in aid to the states, that means states are gonna have to make draconian cuts in jobs, teachers, cops, firemen. You lose the $16 billion in school construction money. So is it still a real stimulus package? Will it have clout?

NELSON: Absolutely. The infrastructure spending is outstanding. We, that'll create jobs. And we're not looking to, to try to make sure that we take care of everything. It's impossible. There isn't enough money. But I think the things we have focused on will help turn this economy around. Joblessness continues to increase. If you look at the job loss numbers, $3.5 billion this last year, and 50 percent of that in the last three months. So there isn't any way that you can ignore what's going on. But we're still providing, I think in total aid to the states, around $200 billion, when you add the aid to the schools for special education, and all the other programs. There's a lot of money going back out across America.

LAUER: Right. Senator Collins let me just make sure I understand this. Are you, are you gonna vote for this stimulus package, the Senate version, because you think it is the right bill at the right time? Or did you and some other people just get scared to death by those jobless numbers that came out last week, showing almost 600,000 jobs disappearing in the month of, of January?

COLLINS: This bill is not perfect. We're not claiming that. But in fact, I think this bill will help to create three to four million jobs. And is that important to me? You bet it is. The American people want us to work together on this. We're facing a crisis. And it makes no sense to have a partisan divide on the most important issue facing our country. This bill is not the bill that Ben or I would have drafted if only we were making the decisions.

LAUER: Right.

COLLINS: But on balance, it is a good bill. It's needed and I think it will make a difference.

LAUER: Senator Nelson, I'm gonna give you the last word here, obviously there are some key differences between the Senate's version and the House version. Where's the major area of compromise gonna be?

NELSON: Well I don't know that there has to be a compromise. What we've done is we've put together something that will, will attract some Republican votes and essentially all the Democratic votes. As it goes to conference, I hope that the conference will not get into an auction or a bidding war. There were 20 individuals involved in this, these discussions this past week. About 12 Democrats and six Republicans. Three of them are not gonna participate in this bill. This was broadly viewed by a large number, almost 20 percent of the Senate.

LAUER: Right.

NELSON: So it's bipartisan, and I hope that it will pass through the House as well.

LAUER: Senator Ben Nelson and Senator Susan Collins, thank you both very much for your time this morning.

COLLINS: Thank you.

NELSON: Thank you.

LAUER: And just a reminder, you can see President Obama's first news conference tonight at 8:00 p.m. Eastern time, right here on NBC.

—Geoffrey Dickens is the senior news analyst at the Media Research Center.


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Obama Not The Agent of Change

J.B.White, Rattler Gator,

Obama "A return to not a change from"

http://rattlergator.typepad.com/rattlergator/2009/02/weve-seen-this-all-before.html

Translation

Condoms are an important part of teaching and fighting fires.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

Bolton/KEYES 2012 

Heartstring cuts...

Its damn typical really.  They always cut the stuff that's going to cause people to start screaming bloody murder.

My question is... what happens when the offices are done and the last piece of bad art has been hung and the pavement has been laid.  These are jobs with a definitive end date... these are not careers.  Two years from now where will we be?  Besides a trillion more dollars in debt and all those 'saved' jobs back on the block.

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.  -Edmund Burke

Nah, they never cut the

Nah, they never cut the police/fire/nurses/teachers...they just threaten to.  It's an illusionist tactic.  This is all about protecting the nameless desk jockeys who managed to negotiate budget busting contracts with bloated pensions and benefits...we're paying a lot of money to compensate people who don't work. 

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill

Four or five years ago in my county

they actually did cut fire & medic in the lower income districts - basically in a game of chicken with the taxpayers.  It didn't take long for people to 'blink'.

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.  -Edmund Burke

I can picture the....

the brain matter melting away in the sheep watching this crap. Just like the Alec Baldwin Super Bowl commercial. The brains becoming piles of mush with the sheep reciting to themselves "This plan good, take my money. Give me nothing. Matt Lauer believes, the One knows best,........(tongue hangs out of mouth and blank stare commences)." 

So sad. I hope the states these RHINOs represent smack them down next election cycle....if there is one.

“Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter”  - Thomas Jefferson

Yep, no surprise.  Matt

Yep, no surprise.  Matt Loser trots out the typical goonion red herring by dishonestly leading with the teachers/police/fire cliche.  Whenever the public employees' goonions want to protect their highly overcompensated administrative members (you know, the ones nobody will miss), they exploit the poor, earnest little teacher, the put-upon nurse and the cop to soften the public to tax increases.  Nothing like scaring the public by claiming safety and childrens' futures are in the balance to encourage people to throw more of their money into the government rat hole.  Unfortunately, as these attempts target the average idiot, they usually work. 

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill

The cheapest spin

"Well, if you won't support my plan, you must not believe in God and you want everyone to die." Over the last couple of days, all I've been hearing is how anyone who opposes this package obviously :

  • hates America,
  • doesn't understand the scale of the problem, and
  • must be a stooge of Snidely Whiplash-type villains wearing capes and top hats.

Well, if they've been reduced to this ...

Obama the neomarx

Thats right, he is a neomarxist, nothing more,

but I will call them neomarx for short.

vicis pro insurgo est propinquus

People worry more about

People worry more about what can happen, then what actually happens.  For once, just freaking once, cut spending to the damn bone.  Some folks will cry "ain't it awful", let them. 

Pretty soon they'll figure that the well has gone dry and finally stand up on their own two feet and not look to government for help. 

Wait....what?? Oh man, this was all a dream...back to the real world where they give away one trillion dollars and only want votes in return.  Imagine that!

 

The fact that this has not

The fact that this has not gone to the Senate floor for a vote, should tell you that your phone calls, e-mails and letters are having an effect.  The dimocrats are not sure that they have the three RHINOs in their pocket.  They are Collins and Snowe from ME and Specter from PA. 

Please write, e-mail, or call the above three senators and tell them why they should vote no on this stimulus bill.

Thank you.

Liberal Playbook

Liberals know this script, they have practiced it for decades. When cuts might be necessary, identify the most visible essential services as possible victims. Police, firefighters first. They will never talk about the latest Robert Byrd Civic Center, or the money for midnight basketball or doing away with work requirements for welfare, etc. It works every time they try it.

Liberals Like Lauer

This country needs to make a major lurch to the right if we are to last as a nation.  I think we got to the edge back in the 70's.  After 50+ years of FDR socialism this country was on life support.  Reagan injected fresh air into the nation which has been all but knocked out by the Bush administrations.  We are quickly returning to the Carter years in many ways.  Who will lead our nation now?  Will it take another 50+ years to find our next Ronald Reagan?  By then will it be too late? 

Socialists like Lauer don't view a government of the people, by the people, and for the people.  They view a people of the government, by the government, and for the government.

They think: "The economy is down?  Well we can't cut government jobs, that's draconian.  So let's cut private jobs instead."

Liberals don't seem to comprehend that the government gets ALL of its money from the private sector.  The government is a leech on the economy.  If you shrink the leech the host will recover.  If you protect the leech it continues to be a drag and can even kill the host.

What I love about Socialism is that it has been proven over and over and over to not work.  What I love about Socialists is that they never give up on making excuses like, "it just hasn't been done right" or, "if it had proper funding it would have worked."  Have you noticed that to liberals we're always one tax hike away from success and prosperity?

 

draconian cuts -- well that's because..

..states are gonna have to make draconian cuts in jobs, teachers, cops, firemen.

Well, I'm on the left coast. It's simple. The LA Times may argue (and they did again today) that it's because they can't pass a budget in time. Ha! I'd argue that's it's because this bunch of leftists nut cases (in the state legislature) have been passing budgets for years.  This is not rocket science; the states first responsibility is to provide police protection, a judicial system, fire protection, build and maintain transportation infrastructure, and education -- everthing else they do should be subject to the budget cutting axe. (;~> gary

right on

Kenneth J Roberts

 

Nellson said it all "there isn't enough money" and that is the real truth .