The full "Today" show cast went to "The Ends of the Earth," as a part of NBC Universal's "Green Week," all in an effort to, once again, do the bidding of the likes of Al Gore, to create hysteria about global warming. With live reports from Matt Lauer worrying about reefs off the coast of Belize, Meredith Vieira fearful about drought conditions in Australia, Ann Curry watching the snow caps melt on Mt. Kilimanjaro and Al Roker troubled by glacier extinction in Iceland, the cast pushed the green agenda throughout Monday's "Today" show. Co-anchor Vieira, near the top of the show, set the table for her cast mates this way:
And so, we venture to the most breathtaking sights, threatened by a changing, warming planet, chilling beauty on the verge of vanishing. The depths of a remote ocean paradise. Belize's great Blue Hole, a reef in peril. Down under, the Australian continent dangerously dry. The frigid north, Iceland's vast glaciers melting. And up Africa's highest summit, where the snows of Kilimanjaro are disappearing. The warnings are stark. A vortex of trash twice the size of Texas, toxins bleeding into the ocean, rivers that can not reach the sea, species lost forever. Clouds, rain, storm's fury borne of the ocean, slowly drown distant nations. Islands disappearing and in their wake, a new kind of refugee, so far away and so close to home. Throughout our planet and within our bodies, water flows. We cannot survive without it. Yet, 1 billion people don't have enough. Our new thirst may fuel wars. Is water the oil of tomorrow?
The following are just some of the scarier, introductory teasers from the "Today" cast as they occurred on the November 17, edition of the "Today" show:
ANN CURRY: We're coming to you now from the first, we're told, is the first live network broadcast from Mt. Kilimanjaro, it's the world's largest standing, free standing mountain. It's at more than 19,000 feet. Mt. Kilimanjaro's majestic, snow capped peaks are increasingly becoming a symbol of climate change. Scientists predict the glaciers could completely disappear by the year 2020. So we've been climbing this mountain since Friday. Our goal is to take you to go up there and see with us the glaciers. We've chosen the hardest route because it will take us closest to the glaciers. We'll have a report on this effort to get there, to get closest up there and also on this issue of climate change and what the melting of these glaciers mean.
...
AL ROKER: Iceland is the worldwide leader in clean energy. Iceland does face a big problem though. The glaciers are melting and that's causing a problem. By the end of the century the glaciers could be all gone. But in the meantime we're gonna be examining that and taking a look at how this country is a leader in hydro-electric power and it could be an example for the rest of the world. We'll have more on that a little bit later.
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MEREDITH VIEIRA: This is year two of our "Ends of the Earth" series, at least, we hope it will be a yearly series. Last year, we focused, big picture, climate change. This year we decided to focus on the one resource that we cannot live without, the building block of life, water. To the ends of the Earth and into the blue. It's our first fuel and most essential. Mesmerizing, precious, powerful water. It covers 70 percent of the planet, provides half of our oxygen, and yet, we've only reached about 5 percent of the sea floor. In these oceans barely explored, creatures unknown hold the key to life on Earth and life beyond. Yet, we know more about the surface of distant planets than we do about our own. And so, we venture to the most breathtaking sights, threatened by a changing, warming planet, chilling beauty on the verge of vanishing. The depths of a remote ocean paradise. Belize's great Blue Hole, a reef in peril. Down under, the Australian continent dangerously dry. The frigid north, Iceland's vast glaciers melting. And up Africa's highest summit, where the snows of Kilimanjaro are disappearing. The warnings are stark. A vortex of trash twice the size of Texas, toxins bleeding into the ocean, rivers that can not reach the sea, species lost forever. Clouds, rain, storm's fury borne of the ocean, slowly drown distant nations. Islands disappearing and in their wake, a new kind of refugee, so far away and so close to home. Throughout our planet and within our bodies, water flows. We cannot survive without it. Yet, 1 billion people don't have enough. Our new thirst may fuel wars. Is water the oil of tomorrow? But there is hope. What man has undone nature can replenish, if we allow it. At the ends of the Earth, "Today" takes you live to destinations profoundly majestic and desperately fragile. Sounding a call to save our precious waters as we dive deep into the blue. And now let's head about 7,400 miles away from here to Ann Curry on Mt. Kilimanjaro. Ann?
ANN CURRY: Hey, Meredith, good morning. You know, Mt. Kilimanjaro's comprised not of one, but actually three volcanoes. Its name said to mean, "Mountain of Greatness, but it's becoming known locally as the "Mountain of Defeat." At 19,340 feet, Mt. Kilimanjaro is the roof of Africa, described by Ernest Hemingway as "as wide as all the world." Great, high, and unbelievably white in the sun. But the snows of Kilimanjaro are vanishing. 84 percent of her glaciers have disappeared in less than 100 years. To get a close look at this change, our NBC News team is taking the hard route up this mountain, as it will get us nearest to the glaciers. Dramatic NASA images reveal how fast Kilimanjaro's ice has retreated in just seven years. Climate change is the lead suspect, as ice is vanishing on mountain glaciers all over the world. Glaciologist Lonnie Thompson says this represents the permanent loss of ancient evidence that could tell us about future climate change, and it could all be gone as early as 2020.
LONNIE THOMPSON: Certainly, the glaciers on the summit are dying. I think their sentence has already been passed. We're just waiting for it to be carried out.
CURRY: This run-off from Mt. Kilimanjaro's melting glaciers has come down through here for thousands of years, may within a lifetime, be completely gone. That, and Kilimanjaro's shrinking rainforests, due to deforestation, are already threatening water supplies for the tribes people living below, including the Masai. They say their mountain is dying. So, tomorrow we're going to be showing you exactly how people living below this mountain are being affected by the diminishing water, and we're also gonna, a little bit later this morning show you what it's been like to take this big climb so far up this great mountain.
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MATT LAUER: And we've been talking, throughout the weekend Fabien, about the person who doesn't think when they throw a plastic bag into a river, or a plastic cup or a plastic water bottle, even though this seems like a pristine environment, we've seen those things washing up on shore around here.
FABIEN COUSTEAU, JACQUES COUSTEAU'S SON: We are in some of the most pristine areas here in this area, and I've seen debris floating around, plastic bags and cups and everything else. That washes out from way up in the mountains. You don't have to be on the oceanside to affect the oceans, and in turn, the cycle will come back to us and pollute our bodies.
LAUER: Yeah and you know we talk about things like global climate change and pollution and, and increasing acidity levels in the ocean. Just a couple of degree increase in the temperature of the waters here along this enormous barrier reef, the largest in the western hemisphere, can have a substantially negative impact on the coral, can't it?
COUSTEAU: That's correct. Coral reefs are like little underwater cities. Over 70 percent of the oceans depend on what's happening in the coral reefs. The coral reefs die, the fish go away. Fish go away, we have no more food. And the, the cycle keeps going like that.
LAUER: Not to mention, if these coral reefs here off the coast of Belize were to die, it would leave no barrier between the low-lying mainland and the ravages of the ocean. People, and this is happening all around the world, people in low-lying areas, if they're surrounded by reefs and those reefs die, they're in big trouble.
COUSTEAU: That's absolutely correct.
LAUER: Alright. We're gonna get to talk much more throughout the next day and a half, Fabien. Thanks very much. It's a pleasure and honor to be here with you.
COUSTEAU: Thank you.
—Geoffrey Dickens is the senior news analyst at the Media Research Center.















Comments Policy
It seems to me that Ann
November 17, 2008 - 12:48 ET by SeashellIt seems to me that Ann Curry always gets the short end of the stick when it comes to these type of assignments.
Leave her there:
November 17, 2008 - 13:07 ET by Red JeepCurry can file daily reports on ice movement.
The receding Killimanjaro
November 17, 2008 - 15:30 ET by winston smithThe receding Killimanjaro snow caps story is pure b.s. Every year the media trot out this long-debunked story about the MMGW being responsible for the receding snow caps. It was discovered back in the 50s during a relatively much cooler period that the snowcaps were receding. In fact the snow caps of Killimanjaro follow a 120-year cycle. The warmists are using this to distort known facts to their advantage. And there's enough "sheeple" out there in overwhelming numbers that will believe them.
winston smith, This link explains what is happening to the snow
November 17, 2008 - 15:38 ET by upcountrywaterSoot
The people around the area, have cooking fires .
Now then if they could build nuclear powerplants then the soot problem would go away.
First Mutt's Viet Nam 2
IranianUranium
The truth about Killimanjaro
November 19, 2008 - 22:01 ET by PopularTechDeforestation behind loss of Mt Kili snow (IPP Media)
Kilimanjaro, On Africa’s Roof, Still Crowned With Snow (The New York Times)
Kilimanjaro, The Woes Of Kilimanjaro: Don't Blame Global Warming (Science Daily)
Kilimanjaro's ice set to linger (BBC)
Censored Global Warming Videos
Matt, Al, Ann and Meredith Didn't get the Word?
November 17, 2008 - 12:49 ET by allanfIt's getting colder guys...
allan... LOL... Oh they
November 17, 2008 - 13:00 ET by bigtimerallan...
LOL...
Oh they got the word, but they're leftists with an agenda, facts matter not...something like facts don't get in their way.
I wonder if they know how unattractive all this green BS in the backgrounds everywhere is....oops, they probably know that too, another little thing that matters not.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
LOL
November 17, 2008 - 16:09 ET by 10ksnookerWith the current solar trends, it will soon be so cold that even the leftists amongst us will realize Al Gore is a kook. Looks like this winter is going to put them over the top.
The main alarmisnt cheerleader, Hansen was caught making it up a few days back. That's all the reality the hoax has left, make it up and lie.
*Sigh* Another idiotic sweeps month stunt
November 17, 2008 - 12:51 ET by Mary Louise TurnerThis is a "sweeps" month, so this is not unusual for a ratings-starved nutwork. NBC, the Nuttiest Broadcasting Company, has been doing this particular idiocy for some time now. So when you see such over-hyped hysteria as this on a nutwork this time of year, remember: it's sweeps time!
Oh, the humanity!
November 17, 2008 - 12:56 ET by RackieLet's measure the so called "carbon footprint" they left with all their travels.
What a joke! Save the
November 17, 2008 - 13:06 ET by nicksmith112What a joke!
Save the planet...stay in the NYC studio and allow a journalist local to the exotic location do the report.
My green proposal is to return the Hamptons and Malibu back to creatures of mother earth. OK I know thats silly. How about forgo the Friday and Sunday helicopter rides to and from the Hamptons??
I'm a refugee from the Democratic Party.
TIRED OLD SCIENCE
November 17, 2008 - 12:56 ET by upcountrywaterIt's the SUN
Solar cycle 24
Kilimanjaro 2008
Noel
First Mutt's Viet Nam 2
IranianUranium
upc...lol
November 17, 2008 - 13:01 ET by LionKingYou mean to tell me that variances in the earth's temperatures are not controlled by man, but rather, that big, fiery ball in the sky that is responsible for ALL the warmth in our solar system.
Who woulda thought that?
After seeing that is what comprises Iranian Nuke scientists
November 17, 2008 - 13:18 ET by IgnatzJFahrquarI've got a feeling that this is what to expect from their missile programs ...
Wyle E. Coyote
"All generalizations are false, including this one.” Mark Twain
Unstoppable Solar Cycles
November 19, 2008 - 22:03 ET by PopularTechUnstoppable Solar Cycles (Video) (10min)
100,000-Year Climate Pattern Linked To Sun's Magnetic Cycles (Science Daily)
Changes In Sun’s Intensity Tied To Recurrent Droughts In Maya Region (Science Daily)
Cosmic Rays Linked To Global Warming (Science Daily)
Evidence For Sun-climate Link Reported By UMaine Scientists (Science Daily)
Flares From Sun's Far Side May Affect Space Weather Of Inner Planets (Science Daily)
Greater Solar Activity May Bring United States More Gray Days (Science Daily)
Holes In Sun's Corona Linked To Atmospheric Temperature Changes On Earth (Science Daily)
NASA Study Finds Increasing Solar Trend That Can Change Climate (Science Daily)
New Analysis Shows Earth's Lower Stratosphere In Synch With Solar Cycle (Science Daily)
New Experiment To Investigate Effect Of Galactic Cosmic Rays On Clouds And Climate (Science Daily)
Northern Climate, Ecosystems Driven By Cycles Of Changing Sunlight (Science Daily)
Regional Variation In Warming From Sun During Solar Cycle Shown By Satellite (Science Daily)
Scientists Determine Biological And Ecosystem Changes In Polar Regions Linked To Solar Variability (Science Daily)
Sun's Direct Role In Global Warming May Be Underestimated, Duke Physicists Report (Science Daily)
Sun's Past Strength Took Toll On Tropical Glaciers, Worsens Today's Outlook (Science Daily)
Surface Warming And The Solar Cycle (Science Daily)
The Sun's Chilly Impact On Earth (Science Daily)
The Sun Is More Active Now Than Over The Last 8000 Years (Science Daily)
Censored Global Warming Videos
This global warming week business just burns me up...
November 17, 2008 - 13:02 ET by ThalpyThis global warming week business just burns me up. Green is good because it simply means that we are using equipment responsibly and up to its level of utmost efficiency. As for the rest of their nonsense, they can tell us what the weather is going to do on next tuesday.
"This global warming week
November 17, 2008 - 14:19 ET by Chris Norman"This global warming week business just burns me up."
Thalpy,
Was that an intended pun? :)
Speaking of getting burnt
November 17, 2008 - 15:53 ET by bigtimerSpeaking of getting burnt up...speaking of global warming which is nothing but bull...the msm goes on and on about it...they can paint any picture green all they want, I am seeing red, here we have Somalia pirates hi-jacking an oil super-tanker, one of the biggest the Saudis have, and we have the greenies here screeching at the top of their lungs about this...law-suit time again...
If we do not become self-dependent soon, it is going to be at our own peril...we thought prices were bad before with filling up our tanks, after this new administration gets in, along with the RINOs prices will go up again...and lord knows with the shape the middle east is now, depending on what O does, we may be caught so short it isn't funny...while Chavez and Russia laugh their rears off.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Ooops
November 17, 2008 - 13:03 ET by acumenDown under, the Australian continent dangerously dry.
Dangerous flooding would be more accurate as shown in this report filed on November 16, 2008 by Channel 7 News in Brisbane Australia. Bet we won't see this on GMA.
Don't they blame flooding
November 17, 2008 - 14:54 ET by zfDon't they blame flooding on GW too? You can't win with these people. Soon they will blame global warming on causing the Earths recent cooling trend!
Ahhhh, back to normal
November 17, 2008 - 13:22 ET by IgnatzJFahrquarRather than spreading manure about McCain and Conservatives I see the networks are back into the Global Warming cr@p. Nice to see that they've learned their lesson in regard to treating the public like a bunch of dolts. (okay, so there are at least 33% of the public that are dolts)
"All generalizations are false, including this one.” Mark Twain
Film-makers taking on our 'global warming hysteria'
November 17, 2008 - 13:23 ET by MaximusBraveheartI hope this movie comes here: http://noteviljustwr...
SNIP below from: http://www.irishtime...
Saturday, November 15, 2008
Film-makers taking on our 'global warming hysteria'
HARRY McGEE
A new Irish film claims that climate change guru Al Gore is an alarmist and that those who think they are saving the planet are only hurting the poor
IF THE ADVANCE publicity is anything to go by, Not Evil Just Wrong will do for Al Gore what Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11 did for George W Bush.
"This is the film Al Gore and Hollywood don't want you to see," declares the website for the latest work by film-makers Ann McElhinney and Phelim McAleer. The site even features a big picture of Gore, with his lips in the photograph seemingly digitally enhanced to make them look like Heath Ledger's Joker from the latest Batman film.
The website goes on to say that their latest film - which takes on what are described as global warming alarmists - is "the most controversial documentary of the year". Indeed, it could very well be the most controversial. And Al Gore and Hollywood may well not want you to see it. And in that respect, Gore and co are actually succeeding for the moment. Because there is no completed film. Not yet anyway.
M-B
Maximus: Great link.
November 17, 2008 - 14:59 ET by nofateMaximus: Great link. Hope this eventually makes it to U.S. screens. McElhinney and McAleer make money quote that the left will never take to heart:
The idea that we have to destroy the coal industry, severely curtail the oil industry, ignore the nuclear industry and put our entire economy in the hands of the untested, unmarketed but big government touted solar and wind idustries is mind boggling. Actually, it's not, when you take into consideration that the green movement is the new incarnation of the communist party in the world. Environmentalsm is just a means to the end, one leg of the long march. If the markets were left to themselves, we would do just fine coming up with solutions to the problems involved with climate change to the warm or cold side. Cut taxes, stop passing ridiculous regulations enforced by bureaucrats, and the markets would take off like a rocket. But hey, I'm a dreamer. The reality is we are getting farther and farther down the "road to serfdom".
"Soylent Green is People!!"
"The future is not set. There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."
michaelyon-online.com
Watch Global Warming Videos Censored by the MSM
November 19, 2008 - 22:10 ET by PopularTechNo need to wait for it to be released you can watch plenty of excellent videos that "do not exist"....
Censored Global Warming Videos
what the heck?
November 17, 2008 - 13:29 ET by katainkentI thought annual Global Warming Scare week was in April!
geez now I have to go out and buy a bunch of "sorry I missed the End of Life as we know it" cards again.
member of the Conservative Independant Witness Protection Program since Nov. 5, 2008
»→ kata
November 17, 2008 - 13:35 ET by Cool ArrowWe were passing those cards out Nov. 4th
If NBC really wants to scare
November 17, 2008 - 13:44 ET by dboIf NBC really wants to scare us all they have to do is show us the internal workings of GISS and the IPCC.
Oh the humanity
November 17, 2008 - 20:29 ET by nkviking75"If NBC really wants to scare us all they have to do is show us the internal workings of GISS and the IPCC."
That or send Al Roker somewhere warm and have him take his shirt off.
Welcome to the era of unity, you racist!
I just saw "Quantum of
November 17, 2008 - 14:03 ET by Chris NormanI just saw "Quantum of Solace" last night (don't ask), which replaced the usual Bond plot of world domination/destruction with the nefarious dealings of water rights in Bolivia (?!). There was a preview to a new eco-end-of-the-world film, "2012". Perhaps, the Today cast saw all of this too and confused it with reality...
Clive Cussler
November 17, 2008 - 15:25 ET by mom_roxI know this was the plot of a Cussler novel but I can't remember the name of the book or the protagonist (Pitt/Austin?).
Is QofS still worth seeing? I really enjoyed Casino Royale.
The Axis of Taxes: Obama, Pelosi and Reid (source unknown)
So the MSM wants to
November 17, 2008 - 14:08 ET by dscottSo the MSM wants to condescendingly lecture US viewers? Oh good, another self inflicted wound on the ratings. E-X-C-E-L-L-E-N-T.
People are tired of hearing bad news, and over hyped stuff they already heard about before, rent a movie, send off for another DVD from Netflix or just go to the internet and play your favorite show. We shall ignore the MSM like they ignored McCain.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
"We shall ignore the MSM
November 17, 2008 - 14:17 ET by Chris Norman"We shall ignore the MSM like they ignored McCain."
dscott,
This is exactly how I intend to handle all of this - with passive resistance. Instead of arguing with my Obama-supporting family, I am going to sit back, not say a word, and watch them become disillusioned on their own. In fact, their disillusionment has already begun with the ever-expanding "bail out". I noted with glee (but said not a word) that many in the GOP have lined up against it. Since it's mainly the Dems pushing including every old industry in the bail out, my brother, et al are hard pressed to place the blame on Republicans. As Noel would say, "delicious".
When they notice you aren't
November 17, 2008 - 15:13 ET by dscottWhen they notice you aren't saying anything, you might say, why are you asking my opinion, you didn't regard it when it could have made a difference? You chose the socialist path, now you should be happy when you are unemployed and given a job to dig holes just to fill them up again.
At some point as they see the magic isn't working but unemployment continues to rise, more businesses go bankrupt despite all the bailouts, you might ask the question: In retrospect, do you really think it was a good idea to use up all the available money to float businesses who made bad decisions instead of leaving the money to those who make better decisions? When they say, we had to do something, respond but why did the something have to be the WRONG thing to do?
I know you know why CN but for our reader's education, Socialism always fails because it insists on taking resources from those who are successful and misallocates it to those who fail, falsely in the name of equality and caring. Rewarding failure and penalizing success has been a recipe for failure since the French Revolution and Karl Marx just put it in German to make it sound more intelligent and dispassionate. For a simple thought experiment, if Toyota USA is profitable, making quality vehicles, fuel efficient ones and employing people, does it make sense to take money from the private sector (namely Toyota USA) in the name of a government bailout give it to GM who will continue to be unprofitable, make crappy vehicles, less efficient vehicles and continue to employ more people who shouldn't be there? Where do you think that money came from? Thin air? The government printed it? Or took it from the private sector which otherwise would have been better utilized to create jobs?
If it were a matter of expedient Socialism, why not just pay them to dig holes and fill them up again instead of wasting billions?
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
HARD DATA, WHERE ART THOU?
November 17, 2008 - 14:11 ET by PacificGatePostGLOBAL WARMING? Are you sure? The earth's temperaturemay in fact be cooling slightly.
If we are toset serious guidelines to clean up our mess in the air and water, we shouldbase decisions on sound data and not emotional hype.
http://pacificgatepost.blogspot.com/2008/03/argo-4900781s-letter-to-bickering.html
While AlGore's efforts to clean up the air and water should be applauded, his argumenton Global Warming is rooted in information now appearing to be incorrect.......
It seems we maynot really be warming, but cooling.
"While AlGore's efforts to
November 17, 2008 - 14:40 ET by zf"While AlGore's efforts to clean up the air and water should be applauded"
No, it shouldn't. "Cleaning up the air and water" is a nature worshippers codeword for "hurt the economy through regulations in the name of a mythical "pure" air and water standard." It's just an excuse for Gore and like to sieze more power in the name if the Mother Earth.
»→ I'm sick of this
November 17, 2008 - 14:21 ET by Cool ArrowHere we have California enlarging its carbon footprint, burning forests and fossil-fuel based materials.
And not a word from Al Gore about the silliness of promoting bigger and bigger bonfires every year.
Yeah, water is the new oil
November 17, 2008 - 14:46 ET by SickofLibsYeah, water is the new oil and will start wars. If only we could find a way to extract potable water from those oshun thingies.
"Zee reefs die, zee fish go away." Actually, they go elsewhere. Sam Kinison said it best: "There wouldn't be world hunger if you people would live where the food is at! You live in a f-ing desert! You see this, huh? This is sand! Know what it's gonna be a hundred years from now? Sand! Get your stuff, we'll make one trip, we'll take you to where the food is at! We have deserts in America, we just don't live in them!"
Yes
November 17, 2008 - 21:19 ET by JWFWe miss teh Sam.
Yes, we are going to fight wars over the most abundant molecule on the planet.
Also, how was water the first fuel? I coulda swore it was wood. First used as a fuel in the 1981 movie "Quest for fire" when the first cavemens learned to start a fire from Rae Dawn Chong.
I don't actually watch the morning shows. I desire to learn useful information.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
It's kinda like the Jerry
November 17, 2008 - 14:49 ET by marvlIt's kinda like the Jerry Springer Show of Scientific Thought. These folks are little more than photogenic white trash running off at the mouth about things they know nothing about. Well, maybe not Al "Give Me Two More Twinkies" Roker. He's not white, I mean.
Want to go green, NBC?
November 17, 2008 - 14:59 ET by moderncommentaries83Here's a radical suggestion for all the people that want to go green, but seem to work in industries and live lifestyles that are less than eco-friendly (limos, private jets, big houses):
YOU FIRST.
NBC should cancel its shows and do live, energy-free productions outside in the middle of Times Square for audiences who pass by.
Matt Lauer's "Where in the World" segment should be confined to locales he can reach by walking or biking.
Celebrities who make a living from shows on NBC should sell their homes and move into apartments suited to the size of their families (up to a 3-bedroom), and get jobs in sustainable eco-farming and such.
Few celebrities who promote green, eco-friendly lifestyles actually do it - like Ed Begley, Jr.
The media that cried wolf.
November 17, 2008 - 15:37 ET by jackie3While the intent is noble to save the plant, the medias reports on GW is equal to "the boy who cried wolf." After so time people get so bored and desensitized by the latest "sky is falling" projections that when the sky finally does fall no one will either believe it or care.
Never under estimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
The intent to 'save the
November 17, 2008 - 16:03 ET by zfThe intent to 'save the planet' (a very hysteric and ambigious phrase to begin with) stopped being noble a long time ago. The real intent now is to subjugate humanity under natures green thumb and remove the plague of human beings that the enviros see as contaminating the universe in the name of the bith-goddess Mother Earth.
Australia is the driest
November 17, 2008 - 15:59 ET by zfAustralia is the driest continent that is inhabitated and is no stranger to droughts, it tends to have them in cycles, actually.
So MSM, try another one.
As for glaciers they ignore that despite whether Icelands are melting or not other parts of the world have seen increases in their gacliers, New Zealand for one.
So MSM, try another one.
Also, sometimes ecological problems occur because of local factors, lots of heat isn't necessary.
Try another one, MSM.
Glaciers...
November 17, 2008 - 16:01 ET by LionKingI thought the melting of glaciers was part of their life cycle. Isn't their melting what causes them to "flow"?
True, but the media is
November 17, 2008 - 16:05 ET by zfTrue, but the media is trying to make it look like glaciers everywhere are melting at an unprecendented and unnatural pace, which is baloney.
Even better
November 17, 2008 - 16:10 ET by UnsaneAbout 10 miles north of Seward, AK is a glacier called Exit Glacier. You will notice that as you drive up to its face you will encounter a series of signs. The first one you pass is "1780". What they all indicated was where the face of the glacier was in the given year of the sign.
The way I translate this, since the Industrial Revolution had barely gotten off the ground at this time, is that there are other forces at work that have been causing the glacier to melt. If the face of that glacier had been where the 1780 marker was, say, in 1970, and suddenly retreated to where it currently is over that span of time, I could possibly - possibly - buy into the hype. Truth of the matter is (and it is there for all to see) that the glacier took 228 YEARS to shrink to its present size!
And the GW Religionists wonder why I have the audacity to merely question what they say and think on the matter.
"THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING!!! A WAR ON FREEWILL IS COMING!!!" - Nevermore, "Bittersweet Feast", from This Godless Endeavor (2005)
Question on Global Warming
November 17, 2008 - 16:05 ET by UnsaneWhy couldn't this global warming visit itself upon the participants in the Rock n Roll Marathon in San Antonio yesterday? It was in the THIRTIES (which is inhumane for Texans) at the start! There were hundreds of people huddled in the warming areas trying to heat themselves before the start.
I HATE running in the cold. I despise it.
"THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING!!! A WAR ON FREEWILL IS COMING!!!" - Nevermore, "Bittersweet Feast", from This Godless Endeavor (2005)
A cold early season
November 17, 2008 - 16:22 ET by danboA cold early season marathon is good for us southerners. (My 26er was Marine Corps.) You still have a good bit of your heat training from the summer of training.
IMHO it's a lot more humane that what I've seen friends go through with the Houston or Mardi Gras marathon in january or feb. When you've lost your heat training and the daily high gets into the upper 70's or even 80's.
Congrads! How did you do?
Limited Disclosure: I used to belong to the Sierra Club untill they went crazier. Worse of all, I was bribed by Exxon with free New Orleans Saints glasses with fill ups in the 70's.
13.1
November 17, 2008 - 19:06 ET by UnsaneNo 26.2 for me...yet. I ran the half-marathon on offer and finished it in less than two hours. Any more than two hours I consider failure. I'll see if I can shave that to a cool 1:45 at some point!
It was friggin cold. The start was delayed and I kept saying to myself "Just start this thing already!!!" :-)
"THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING!!! A WAR ON FREEWILL IS COMING!!!" - Nevermore, "Bittersweet Feast", from This Godless Endeavor (2005)
To me. Anyone that finishes
November 17, 2008 - 20:41 ET by danboTo me. Anyone that finishes a marathon, or half is a winner. Regardless of his/her time. Just finishing takes something. Those last 5 miles were he--. And the finish line was on top a hill.
If you give it a try. Consider an early season race up north. Like october-december. You have to train during the summer. Running well before dawn. But you get great heat conditioning. Even if you walk a lot the last 5 or so miles of your training runs.
If the race is on a hot day. You're used to the he--. But if you wake up to frost on the ground. You may need a throw away sweat for pre race. But once the race starts. It's so much more humane.
Unfortunately I broke my foot (stress fracture)on a training run for my second try.
Again congrads.
Limited Disclosure: I used to belong to the Sierra Club untill they went crazier. Worse of all, I was bribed by Exxon with free New Orleans Saints glasses with fill ups in the 70's.
Unsane... You could
November 17, 2008 - 17:16 ET by Clear thinkerUnsane...
You could always take up driving.
;-)
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Why drive when you can run?
November 17, 2008 - 20:03 ET by UnsaneWhy would I do that?
Driving is easy.
:-)
"THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING!!! A WAR ON FREEWILL IS COMING!!!" - Nevermore, "Bittersweet Feast", from This Godless Endeavor (2005)
I've always wanted to ask someone in Global Warming
November 17, 2008 - 17:07 ET by andophiroxia"What is the ideal surface-to-air temperature of the earth?"
I wonder what they'll answer?
“You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.” ~ Winston Churchill
How IRONIC - Tomorrow's "global warming" rally on capitol hill
November 17, 2008 - 17:24 ET by Jaykefaces UNUSUAL NOVEMBER COLD AND SNOW! Here in Maryland my Maryland we have more than our fare share of climate kooks. Led by our very own "rising star" Chris Van Hollen, D-Maryland, we are sure to hear a lot about how warm its gonna get after this "unusual" cold spell ends. IT'S THE SUN STUPID!
Mark Levin just mentioned
November 17, 2008 - 19:20 ET by bigtimerMark Levin just mentioned this blog spot on his show, he read about it and commented, he said this is from my brothers and sisters at NewsBusters...
He was also talking about watching football when this farce came on...glad he felt the same as I did when I saw this blather last night during half-time.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
NBC Bejing Olympics Set, Lest We Forget
November 17, 2008 - 19:24 ET by YahooWatcherFrom Business and Media:
http://www.businessandmedia.org/printer/2008/20080815165112.aspx
Not Green: NBC Beijing Olympic Set Air Conditioned -- Outdoors
'Green is Universal' network that dimmed set to push eco-programming gives cold shoulder to Chinese weather.
By Jeff Poor
Business & Media Institute
8/15/2008 11:39:54 PM
The NBC family of networks has no problem showing viewers how to save the planet. But if it is a muggy, smoggy 85 degrees, as is the forecast for Beijing this week, consider looking elsewhere for eco-inspiration.
WTHR, the NBC affiliate for Indianapolis, reported from Beijing and described the NBC set used for the network's two highest rated news broadcasts, “NBC Nightly News” and “Today,” as air conditioned – even though it is outdoors.
“The set is outside, but air conditioning vents make the weather bearable,” Anne Marie Tiernon wrote for WTHR Eyewitness News on August 14.
Even NBC “Today” co-host Matt Lauer remarked about the air conditioning, but said it was still uncomfortable even with it.
“The first couple of nights even with the air conditioning it was steamy in here, but we've been lucky ever since,” Lauer said to WTHR. “It’s been overcast some days, takes the temperature down. We call it fog smog.”
Last fall, the network performed a publicity stunt on its November 4 broadcast of its highly rated Sunday Night NFL Football show, “Football Night in America.” The broadcast used limited lighting for the broadcast and even went completely dark for the final moments of the program.
The effort was to raise awareness and set an example for the rest of the country, however, the same example isn’t being set for the broadcast from the world’s biggest polluter, China.
Less than two months ago, NBC was painting climate change as an issue of American national security. NBC chief environmental affairs correspondent Anne Thompson said on the June 25 “NBC Nightly News” that: “The world’s thirst for energy is creating an environmental crisis that could soon become a security crisis for the United States.”
Other media have criticized American over-dependence on air conditioning. According to Joe Klein of Time magazine, air conditioning represents an estimated 4 percent of U.S. energy use.
“But that’s still pretty egregious,” Klein wrote for Time on June 25, in a column encouraging people to “kill their air conditioner” for the sake of the environment. “We used an estimated 4 quadrillion British thermal units on air-conditioning in 2006, which is more than the total energy usage of all but 21 countries. And a fair amount of that is peak usage — the sort that sends the electric grid crackling toward brownouts and meltdowns and increases the demand for the construction of more electric power plants.”
Don't Tax Me, Bro.
End of the Earth: More Apocalyptic
November 17, 2008 - 20:34 ET by infoguy"Apocalyptic may be one of the first mythological beliefs that emerged in the Paleolithic era. Unfortunately, it was a severe distortion of the nature of the developing human brain which has a built-in orientation to hope and progress.
"Apocalyptic arose out of a serious misreading of nature by early humans who were just emerging to what was a more modern form of human consciousness. It became a central idea in the complex of myths that developed out of early humanity’s experience with the forces of nature. The Paleolithics had become aware of what they perceived to be greater invisible powers or spirits behind nature and life; behind the visible material world. As nature was often violent and appeared malevolent, so they misread natural disaster, accident, and disease as evidence of the anger of the spirits. This led them to believe that the invisible powers controlling such things needed to be placated and some innovative ancient eventually came up with the idea of placating these powers with sacrifice.
"These beliefs were most likely developed by the first power holders in ancient society- the shaman. The shaman claimed that they knew what the gods wanted, why they were angry, and what people needed to do to placate them. They eventually created the set of beliefs noted in the previous paragraph that became the basis of their authority over their fellow tribesmen. They claimed a special relationship to the spirits and special insight or knowledge of the secrets of the invisible world. And they presented the way of salvation from the anger and punishment of the spirits. In doing this they became the first specialists to manipulate the fear and guilt of others in order to thereby control them. They were the first to create differences among former equals and this led to special elite status and formal authority in human societies.
"From the very beginning there appears to have been a strong association between apocalyptic and social control by people with a salvationist program to push on others.
"To summarize: the shaman would tell people that things had been better at the original time of creation, in the original golden age or pure beginning. But now things were obviously worse and the people were responsible for angering the spirits and bringing such worsening conditions and suffering about. Hence they needed to placate the angry spirits. The shaman would then present a way of salvation where people had to submit to and obey their authority as the special mediators between the spirits and the human community.
"Apocalyptic was a central idea in this early social control. People were told that they had screwed up, punishment from the spirits was coming (evident in natural disaster, disease), and they had to subject themselves to the way of salvation that the shaman offered. Apocalyptic was an essential part of this early mythology created to promote the authority of shaman over others.
"Much environmental expression presents its vision of apocalyptic in more secular and scientific terms which then proffers the aura of scientific credibility. But despite the public facade of science, the energizing spirit of apocalyptic still manifests itself in varied ways. This may be done by emphasizing certain information over other data to create the appearance of catastrophe.
"Also, environmentalists with an apocalyptic outlook will focus on aberrations to long terms trends (downturns, setbacks, isolated situations of catastrophe) and extrapolate these out to characterize some general situation. So it is possible to express an apocalyptic outlook in a variety of ways under the canopy of science, such as focusing on isolated incidents or localized situations and short term aberrations and then claim these represent some greater whole (the state of the planet).
"But no matter how much science is employed, the shaping of environmental catastrophe scenarios expresses the same spirit of fear and despair and the same dismal way of perceiving nature and life as that of primitive apocalyptic.
"Life is not fragile and subject to collapse. To the contrary, it is resilient and durable, and progression defines its very core nature. Life has been hit with meteorites, massive changes in climate, Ice Ages, and yet it emerges after each assault to continue growing even stronger and more complex than before.
"And human civilization epitomizes the overall universe story of enduring progress toward something better. It expresses the grand story of the exodus of humanity from animal existence to discover the freedom of human existence, a more humane existence free of base animal drives. With intelligence, human civilization exhibits even more the grand drive to progress that is evident all through life and matter.
"Apocalyptic has been around for a long time and has been beaten into human consciousness endlessly over past millennia. It has infected much human perception with its dark outlook and spirit of fear and despair. But it is entirely alien to what it means to be human. It violates the very nature of our brains as wired for optimism. It also violates the very nature of reality and life as rising trajectories of progress."
From: The Human Spirit by Wendell Krossa
www.thehumanspirit.net
NBC proves again
November 17, 2008 - 21:25 ET by BobAnthonyThey are the Nazi Broacasting Company for towing the envirofascist line. You know, everytime I see that damn green peacock, I get mad, like a certain other green guy!
For the record, I am NOT RECOGNIZING BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA ODINGA AS
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES! I would like to become part of a
secession front!
I guess it could be called "sad"
November 17, 2008 - 22:07 ET by fastfoodI guess it could be called "sad" that these doom 'n gloomer's keep digging their own graves by continually spewing their biased trash, while the Internet and conservative TV and radio continue to give us more and more options from which to hear the truth.
[[I guess it could be
November 18, 2008 - 14:04 ET by Nazareth[[I guess it could be called "sad" that these doom 'n gloomer's keep digging their own graves by continually spewing their biased trash, while the Internet and conservative TV and radio continue to give us more and more options from which to hear the truth.]]
The 'fairness act' will see to it that for every report that obliterates the complete nonsense of 'man-caused' 'global change', that a 'counter' 'report' 'proving' global warming is caused by man will have to be presented alongside the science that debunks that claim. The 'man-caused' global wamring nutjobs will trot out one 'scientist' after another that 'beleives' (Read, that receives millions from the government to 'study global warming) that man is the cause, and you can bet that consevative talk radio will be FORCED to include 'scientists' that will ridicule any anti-'man-caused' global wamrign science, and the sceintists that do present the TRUTH that man is NOT to blame will be seen as fools while the garbage that that global change nutjobs that call themselves scientists present will be seen as gospel fact. Democrats are really goign to hammer conservatives with htis so called 'faiernss act'- The act should be renamed as the 'forced anti-truth act', or the 'brainwashing act' or the 'night of the living idiot act'
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