Chris Matthews, on Monday night's "Hardball," speculated that Republicans were playing the race card, when they made fun of Barack Obama's experience as a community organizer, even going as far to say they're using the phrase like a "bullwhip." In a segment with NBC's Chuck Todd and pollster Stuart Rothenberg, Matthews suspiciously noted that Republicans like Sarah Palin and Rudy Giuliani, at last week's GOP convention, were "giggling" over the "community organizer" title as he pondered: "Is this the new 'welfare queen?'"
Then a little later in the program, in a segment with the Financial Times' Chrystia Freeland and the Independent Women's Forum's Michelle Bernard, Matthews returned to the subject as he declared: "It seems to me that the use of the word, 'community organizer,' is almost like a bullwhip."
The following exchanges occurred on the September 8 edition of "Hardball" [audio excerpts available here]:
CHRIS MATTHEWS: Yeah but also, Chuck, and this is tricky business. She's [Palin] rural, she's white, she's from out in the country. She's very conservative on rural issues. She's no where near an ethnic from a big city, she's about as far from urban as possible. Meanwhile Barack and Michelle Obama are from the Southside of Chicago. They're urban, they're ethnic, they're African-American. They're community organizers. And by the way, there's a phrase I wonder about. "Community organizers." Do Republicans think, Stu [Rothenberg], when they say that we're supposed to think Al Sharpton? What do they, what, why would they use that to toy with, this week? Rudy Giuliani got the biggest giggle out of that. And then, of course, Sarah, Sarah Palin did. They're giggling over the community organizer role as if it's, has, it carries more freight than just a job you once had. Is this the new "welfare queen?" Is this a new symbol, that we're talking about here?
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MATTHEWS: But do you think there, do you it has an ethnic piece, an urban piece even?
CHUCK TODD: I don't, I don't. I mean I'm sorry-
MATTHEWS: Well you don't have to say it, I'll say it. I think what they're getting is urban, downtown, trouble, tough neighborhoods. Community organizer is not a winning phrase for a place like Scranton....Yeah I think, I think it has Al Sharpton connotations, anyway.
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MATTHEWS: But Chrystia [Freeland] it seems to me that the use of the word, "community organizer," is almost like a bullwhip. Rudy Giuliani used it. He's not exactly light-handed when it comes to this stuff, he can be heavy-handed. He giggled about the phrase, "community organizer." Are they saying that, that Barack Obama is Al Sharpton? Is that what they're saying? Is that what the real brand they're trying to put him is?
—Geoffrey Dickens is the senior news analyst at the Media Research Center.





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Mathews seems to be putting
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 17:12 ET by Clear thinkerMathews seems to be putting forward new talking points everyday for the Dems. So of course he's being fair and impartial... right? If you believe that, I have a frozen BigFoot in a freezer I'd like to sell you.
I sure hope the DNC has been paying him massive amounts of money because after this election season is over he will probably be retired for good.
Hmmmm, just a side note. While writing this I am hearing Obama on the TV speaking at some sort of rally. I could swear I'm hearing desperation in his voice for the first time. I love it!
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what a difference a week
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 18:22 ET by TruthMongerwhat a difference a week makes, comrades
Matthews and co are feeling pretty f*cked now:)
Palin is pretty much bullet-proof - thanks basically to decades of leftard propaganda - they gave us plenty of ammunition and i will just love hanging the left bigtime this fall with their own BS:)
anyways so nice to be back on the NB board - nearly slept this whole damn weekend recouperating
damn, I even missed shrubby after a few days - how freak is that?!?
so did you get a sh*tload of NB poster points on the program or what? i relay mondo thanks so much to all you huge NB brains over the last 3 years - numerous accolades and thanks came from the floor - awesome job!!
btw - did you see me on TV?
I was the one accepting the RNC POTUS nomination
just kidding
and I still ain't voting for mc
but it's still so great to see the oblama fantasy deflate in one week like a cheap blow-up sex doll
later dudes
TM
Journalism is the opium of the liberals
Wow, TM
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 18:26 ET by BlondeDid you get another personality transplant, or what?
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
i have a wide
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 19:47 ET by TruthMongeri have a wide stance:)
Journalism is the opium of the liberals
The Rev Al O Bama
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 17:16 ET by Kuso JijiIn an attempt to put the race card into play, Chris Matthews has just drawn a parallel between two fellow community organizers; Reverand Al Sharpton and Bawacko Bama. Thanks Chris, for bringing this to our attention, the last thing America needs is another racebaiting opportunist who is in the habit of speaking for people he really doesn't represent.
He speaketh again . .
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 17:17 ET by GalvanicCHRIS MATTHEWS: Yeah but also, Chuck, and this is tricky business. . . They're giggling over the community organizer role as if it's, has, it carries more freight than just a job you once had. Is this the new "welfare queen?" Is this a new symbol, that we're talking about here?
No, Chrissy. 'MSNBC News anchor' is the new 'welfare queen.'
Congratulations on getting fired from the easiest job on TV, chump!
Why is it always a liberal
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 18:19 ET by motherbeltWhy is it always a liberal Democrat who dreams up what these new, supposed "code words" signify?
And then they accuse Republicans of using them.
And of course, "Welfare Queen" signifies "black."
Another cleverly disgused racist attack by those hateful Republicans.
It's all in the game . . .
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 21:18 ET by GalvanicIt's a Leftist dialectic developed in academia for averting facts and putting political opponents on the defensive.
In its milder state, it takes the form of what has come to be known as "PC" language. PC language certainly isn't intended to offend, but in a subtle way, it lays the foundation upon which free speech is assaulted by the Left.
As you note, the search for "code words" is the means be which they rationalize labels like "racist," "fascist," etc. It deliberately and aggressively attacks the opponent with vicious labels meant to shut off debate. It must give them some sort of sense of having defended their often flawed logic.
Doh!
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 17:18 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsGood old Barack wants to make 'Community Organizer' a nationwide 'mandatory voluntary' public service as large as the military.
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Great link... Obama & Co.
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 19:04 ET by Eileen RightGreat link... Obama & Co. want to create a whole new batch of Pony-tailed gray haired loud mouth commie loving empty headed leeches living off the guvmint idiots to pester and impede productive Americans that will be paying their union scale wages. What a lofty goal for the future of America.
And what's up with "they're ethnic, they're African-American"??? If they were, say Chinese, would they only be ethnic?
Hey, I heard all this,
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 17:24 ET by bigtimerHey, I heard all this, leave it to Chris to insert race...Todd said No Chris, I don't think it has anything to do with being white or race..the urban thing maybe blah blah blah...I mean this is left out of this conversation here, I was really going Yay Chucky T...Matthews did not like his answer, that is why he then went to good ol' reliable Stu...
Matthews made an arse of himself, as usual
By the way Matthews, the race card is old and worn out...
also in this same segment, Todd said he thought the Obama camp is probably sorry they raised the issue of community worker to use for Obama, he said after-all they started this or some such...
I know you all know I am paraphrasing here...but you get the drift.
I actually got a kick out of all it...
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
he said after-all they
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 18:42 ET by motherbelthe said after-all they started this
Evening bt.....you illustrated my favorite theorem:
Nothing infuriates a liberal more than being quoted accurately.
Yes, Tweety, Barack Obama is Al Sharpton
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 17:26 ET by SickofLibs"She [Palin] is no where near an ethnic [person]..."
ATTENTION ESKIMOS: YOU HAVE NOW BEEN FULLY ASSIMILATED INTO THE AMERICAN QUILT. Quit hunting seals and whales, and just shop at Walmart like the rest of us. And no more totem poles, either.
Chrissy just meant that
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 18:00 ET by Indiana JoeChrissy just meant that Innuits are not on the list of liberally approved ethnicities.
Therefore, they don't count. And we don't count 'em.
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
'community organizer'
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 17:25 ET by Avitar'Community organizer' is the old 'Poverty Pimp'. It goes back to the Urban League and the other community organizations that collect enormous donations from corporations and Governments on behalf of the poor but never seem to reduce poverty.
Community Organizer
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 23:27 ET by merlin61Avitar, they collect enormous donations from
corporations, and governments on behalf of the
poor, but the poor never get the donations. The
Community Organizers take it and keep it. Just
like Obama wants to tax the rich and keep that
money for himself too. That's where he
learnt it.
MATTHEWS: ......"community
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 17:27 ET by MidAmericaMATTHEWS: ......"community organizer." Are they saying Barack Obama is Al Sharpton? Is that what they're saying?
umm..... Sorry chris, looking for racial overtones is so two months ago.
Yeah but... If anyone can
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 17:33 ET by Clear thinkerYeah but... If anyone can make up some racial overtones, Chrissy is the perfect guy for the job. What a jerk!
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WHAT IS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER???
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 17:29 ET by danybhoyA "community organizer" is more or less a middle man who tries to "help" a neighborhood that has been destroyed by the policies of the gov't that the middle man tries to convince the "community" that the problem is the following...it's not our failed liberal policies that have not cleaned up the "community", it is that the gov't has not spent enough money in that part of town. A few middle men have tax money sent their way in order to take of the problems in the "community". That money almost never gets to where it should go, that money is spent on policies that almost never work, & then on election day, the "community" continues to vote for the same Dems who have controled the big cities in this country that people are fleeing, or is that "white flight"?
Obama may have been a "comminity organizer", but I have to ask. What shape is his old "community"? Chicago's southside has been a very bloody place, the murder rate is sky high, even by Chicago standards. When you go to/through Chicago, do you stay the hell away from the parts of town that might happen to have "comminty organizers"? I did, I went to Chicago this summer, & I stayed the hell away from the southside. I value my life too much to take a chance even getting lost in Obama's old hood. I guess I'm not alone in that thought.
"...it's still We The People, Right?" Megadeth
CO BO
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 17:29 ET by Lame CherryHey let's not be bashing the Community Organizer Barack Obama, he has all those little cards printed up CO BO.
Clarence Page, which Newsbusters missed stated on the McGlaughlin group defending CO BO that Obama saved Chicago's southside more than God, the Mayor and the Police Chief in how important a CO was to a community in protecting it from "evil white corporations who decend to buy up land, force people out and build evil corporations".
Ok for a Obama reality check and Page fact check.
Why in the heck would any corporation go into an area where there was no skilled work force and a massive crime problem?
The answer is it wouldn't and that is why you do not find Boeing, Microsoft and Apple in downtown Chicago........not because Obama was saving the community.
But Page apparently was correct in Barack Obama saved Chicago people from high paying jobs, futures and easy retirement by chasing away all the businesses who would have given his community jobs.
Suck on that Chris Matthews as a reality brain sprain for your mind.
IF THE WORLD WANTS TO KNOW WHAT AMERICA WILL BE LIKE, let us look at Chicago's southside, a place where gay black people like Donald Young were being murdered who were Obama's best friend and no one has solved the case.........and a place where poverty reigns.
That is what community organizer Obama was about.
Should not Newsbusters be doing research on just how many murders, rapes, robberies, white collar crimes, businesses lost etc.... that occurred under Barack Obama's stewardship of Chicago as Clarence Page has told the world messiah Obama ruled Chicago more importantly than God.
*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS
Did it take him 5 days to figure this out?
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 17:30 ET by JTPYour onto us chrissy. It is all about Al "justice brother" Sharpton. It appears we need to change stategy because you are taking way too long to figure out these subtle hints we are feeding you. You should have been spouting the racist message right after the speech so all three of your viewers could spread the word. Man, get a life will ya?
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Obama -- Organizing the Diss in the Community
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 17:32 ET by Jack BauerFrom the WSJ/Best of the Web.. the finest demolition of the rather pathetic Barack Obam's time as a "community organizer." Man is this guy lame or what.
Please God, save America from this fraud.
South Side Veterans for Truth
By JAMES TARANTO
Last week we wrote that " 'community organizer' is to Barack Obama what 'war hero' was to John Kerry." We didn't know the half of it.
Kerry staked his claim to the presidency on the pretense that he was a war hero, notwithstanding his showy repudiation decades earlier of the war and his fellow veterans. According to a new exposé in the liberal New Republic, Obama, before embarking on a career in politics, similarly, albeit quietly, repudiated "community organizing," only to re-embrace it decades later, apparently out of political expediency.
TNR's John Judis tracked down Jerry Kellman, who in 1985 "hired Obama to organize residents of Chicago's South Side." Kellman describes a conversation the two "community organizers" had at a conference on "social justice" in October 1987:
"[Obama] wanted to marry and have children, and to have a stable income," Kellman recalls.
But Obama was also worried about something else. He told Kellman that he feared community organizing would never allow him "to make major changes in poverty or discrimination." To do that, he said, "you either had to be an elected official or be influential with elected officials." In other words, Obama believed that his chosen profession was getting him nowhere, or at least not far enough. . . .
And so, Obama told Kellman, he had decided to leave community organizing and go to law school.
Another way of putting this might be that Obama left community organizing because he wanted a job in which he had actual responsibilities (and, of course, earned more money).
But Obama did not decide only that "community organizing" was not for him. Judis reports the future senator took part in a September 1989 symposium in which he "rejected the guiding principles of community organizing: the elevation of self-interest over moral vision; the disdain for charismatic leaders and their movements; and the suspicion of politics itself." Later, Obama "would begin to construct a political identity for himself that was not simply different from his identity as a community organizer--but was, in fact, its very opposite."
Judis offers the closest thing we've heard to a job description for "community organizers." What they do, he writes, is "unite people of different backgrounds around common goals and use their collective strength to wring concessions from the powers that be." To help illuminate this rather vague description, Judis also enumerates some of the tasks Obama and his colleagues undertook.
Before Obama's arrival in Chicago, Kellman and his "partner," Mike Kruglik, set out "to revive the region's manufacturing base--and preserve what remained of its steel industry--by working with unions and church groups to pressure companies and the city; but those hopes were quickly dashed." Apparently the presence of "community organizers" is not a strong selling point for companies making location decisions. Go figure.
Obama set his sights lower, but still missed the mark. He "got community members to demand a job center that would provide job referrals, but there were few jobs to distribute." Then "he tried to create what he called a 'second-level consumer economy' . . . consisting of shops, restaurants, and theaters. This, too, went nowhere."
These efforts at economic development having failed, Obama "began to focus on providing social services for Altgeld Gardens," a government-owned and -operated apartment complex:
"We didn't yet have the power to change state welfare policy, or create local jobs, or bring substantially more money into the schools," [Obama] wrote. "But what we could do was begin to improve basic services at Altgeld--get the toilets fixed, the heaters working, the windows repaired." Obama helped the residents wage a successful campaign to get the Chicago Housing Authority to promise to remove asbestos from the units; but, after an initial burst of activity, the city failed to keep its promise. (As of last year, some residences still had not been cleared of asbestos.)
t is both funny and scary that one of America's major political parties would offer this record of sheer futility as its nominee's chief qualification to be president of the United States. Even more striking, though, is how alien the world in which Obama operated was by comparison with the world in which normal Americans live.
Reader, when your toilet breaks, do you wait around for some Ivy League hotshot to show up and organize a meeting so that you can use your collective strength to wring concessions from the powers that be?
Or do you call a plumber?
As a "community organizer," Obama toiled within a subculture of such abject dependency that even home repairs were "social services," provided by government (or, in Obama's Chicago, not provided). It was an utterly bizarre intersection between the cultural elite and the underclass. By Judis's account, Obama's Columbia degree was useless. He would have been more helpful if he'd gone to vocational school instead.
Judis quotes an Altgeld resident as telling Obama, "Ain't nothing gonna change. . . . We just gonna concentrate on saving our money so we can move outta here as fast as we can." Certainly no one can fault Obama for doing the same thing. But what did Obama move outta there do to? To become a politician--specifically, an "idealistic" politician who wants "to make major changes in poverty." Guys like that created this mess in the first place.
In his political career, has Obama done or even said anything to suggest that he has a different approach to "poverty," one that would reduce dependency rather than promote it? His recent rediscovery of the glories of "community organizing" certainly isn't an encouraging sign.
Chris,
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 17:35 ET by kgChris, where is the news about why you were booted off the NEWS DESK? That is the news we are all waiting to hear.
"Forget change, I want improvement!"
Oh Yeah,
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 17:57 ET by Calypso JonesSure looks to me like Matthews has been sufficiently chastised.
Mearline, here's punishment for Chrissy boy...
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 18:20 ET by goldenthroatLock him in a room of conservatives who have just had a meal of beans and franks and let him sit it out for a couple of hours!
That room will stink almost as bad as his newscasts.
"The sun's not going down, the horizon's moving up!" - Firesign Theatre
TEN BUCKS SPITTLE SAIS:
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 18:37 ET by TheSterCHRIS: The Waco Kid:
What did you expect? "Welcome sonny," "Make yourself at home," "Marry my daughter." You've got to remember, that these are just simple farmers, these are people of the land, the common clay of the new west. You know . . . morons.
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I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.
You gotta love it
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 18:04 ET by Indiana JoeOkay, so now "community organizer" is a dirty word in the gospel according to Chrissy. Well, who's making it a dirty word? Who's suggesting all these "code words" for it? Why that bastion of liberal MSM mindslush, CHRIS MATTHEWS, that's who! Talk about transference!
This is like when liberals started asking "Who made 'liberal' a dirty word?" My answer was always, "LIBERALS did, by twisting the meaning and then running away from the label!"
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
Community shake down artists.
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 18:22 ET by KansasgirlCommunity organizers are thugs holding candlelight vigils.
I'm sure a lot of racists
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 18:35 ET by Chris NormanI'm sure a lot of racists out there are thanking Matthews for this. By over-using the "Racist!" charge about silly things, he makes the accusation move one more step towards meaninglessness and comedy. Matthews is the little boy who cried "Racist!". By the way, Chris, is "Small Town Mayor" a code phrase for "ditzy female"?
McNotObama '08
Good point, Chris!
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 20:40 ET by motherbeltMaybe the McCain camp should respond to every criticism of her by claiming that it is just that!
Just remember.....
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 18:39 ET by Barker'Chris Matthews' is a code word for 'Complete Idiot'.
NEWSBUSTERS: I'M TAKING ONE FOR THE TEAM!!!
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 18:59 ET by TheSterI registered at Kos to do "opposition" research: START FIGHTS!!
Those clowns are more deflated than Obama's tire pressure!! Chris is clearly stunned on todays HB. Olby is hiding in the bathtub. AND...WAIT FOR IT....
KOSSACKS ARE TALKING BOYCOTT OF MSNBC!!! JOY!!!
God save my soul...going back in...wish me luck...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.
TheStar
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 19:15 ET by MrShyGO GET'EM !!!!! :)
We appreciate your sacrifices! :)
Obama... a total fraud. Palin... a total hottie.
KOSSACKS ARE TALKING
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 20:42 ET by motherbeltKOSSACKS ARE TALKING BOYCOTT OF MSNBC!!! JOY!!!
Well, there goes their entire audience!!
I think "rabble rouser"
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 19:03 ET by JWFMaybe I need to go to a "community camp" once Obama takes over to have my thinking reworked.
Isn't that how it goes down?
Chris Matthews
Mon, 09/08/2008 - 20:46 ET by nandrelliThis is Chris Matthews, one of the FORMER anchors at MSNBC we're discussing, right? I'd hate to say anything negative about a DIFFERENT Chris Matthews that I don't even know.
Crooked to the bone.
Tue, 09/09/2008 - 02:38 ET by john5750$630,000 In Nigerian Stock Exchange Money Earmarked To Influence USA Election–Seized
This from BBC News, of course.
Let’s start a daily count of how long it takes for the USA Main Stream Media to pick up on this obvious effort on the part of the Nigerian Stock Exchange to illegally influence an American Presidential election.
Nigerian anti-graft investigators have seized money raised by the head of the Nigerian Stock Exchange to support US presidential candidate Barack Obama.
The Economic and Financial Crimes Commission said it would give the money back to those who attended a gala dinner in Lagos last month.
The EFCC said it had seized 74m naira ($630,000, £314,000), but said no Nigerian laws had been broken.
US political parties are not allowed to receive contributions from abroad.
Stock exchange chairwoman Ndi Okereke-Onyuike is also the head of Africans for Obama, a Nigeria-based support group.
She was interviewed by the EFCC after media reports that the Obama campaign had disassociated itself from the group.
There is not one Nigerian who doesn’t have a relative or friend in America.
Ndi Okereke-Onyuike Africans for Obama.
Mrs Okereke-Onyiuke said in August there had been a misunderstanding in the press regarding the event.
The money was going to be spent on adverts encouraging Nigerians in the US to vote for Mr Obama, she said.
Tickets to the lavish event in Lagos on 11 August cost more than $21,000 (£11,000) for an eight-person table.
“We never said we were going to donate money for the campaign,” she said.
“We paid for the hall and the entertainers and the surplus, we said would be spent on advertisements aimed at persuading Nigerians to tell their relatives in America to register to vote.
“There is not one Nigerian who doesn’t have a relative or friend in America. Our aim was to encourage those people to tell their family who have the right to vote in America to vote for Obama.”
Full-page adverts in major newspapers publicising the event did not mention what the organisers were planning to do with the money.
Tickets to the gala dinner at the Muson Centre, usually used for conferences and trade shows, were split into two price ranges: “gold” and “platinum”.
Individual tickets for the more expensive platinum range cost $2,754 (£1,300) with an option to buy a “corporate” table sitting eight for more than $21,000.
She said the press was trying to attack her because they were jealous of her success.
A statement form the EFCC said they had ordered Mrs Okereke-Onyuike to “steer clear of such activities in future”.
McCAIN-PALIN 2008 and HILLARY-ANYBODY 2012