Barnicle: Suskind Book Charges Bush&Cheney with '4000 Murders'

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Ron Suskind's charge, that the Bush administration forged a letter to falsely link al-Qaeda with Saddam Hussein, landed the journalist/author not only a spot on Thursday night's "Hardball," but also the following recommendation for his book, The Way of the World, from guest host Mike Barnicle:

MIKE BARNICLE: And in reading the book, I have to tell you, in reading all your stuff, I admire all your stuff. But in reading this book and these charges that have laid out here and because of my background, covering like city stuff and everything for years, I can't help but come to the conclusion, at the end of this book, this book is basically charging the President of the United States, or the Vice President of the United States with being an accessory, before the fact, to 4000 murders and more in Iraq. They lied us into war, according to this book.

The following is an excerpt of the interview as it occurred on the August 7, "Hardball":

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MIKE BARNICLE: You never asked the DCI, the Director of Central Intelligence Agency, point blank, "George [Tenet] did you transport a cream-colored piece of paper to Langley after your meeting at the White House?"

RON SUSKIND: For a lot of reasons I went to really reliable sources and to be frank about it, at this point, George [Tenet], as reporters in town know, is not the person you call for anything in terms of memory, even a short time ago, much less five years ago. He doesn't remember wide swaths of almost anything. In this case we dealt with people handling the situation who remember, with great vividness, what George says, what they did, the moment of passage, and down the chain. And that's why the book has such strength is because you can see clearly-

BARNICLE: Oh it does!

SUSKIND: -that this was an operation and people are quoted fully, based on their personal knowledge.

BARNICLE: It, it, it does, there's no doubt it. And in reading the book, I have to tell you, in reading all your stuff, I admire all your stuff. But in reading this book and these charges that have laid out here and because of my background, covering like city stuff and everything for years, I can't help but come to the conclusion, at the end of this book, this book is basically charging the President of the United States, or the Vice President of the United States with being an accessory, before the fact, to 4000 murders and more in Iraq. They lied us into war, according to this book.

SUSKIND: Well the, the book lays out the evidence step by step, all the way to that point in early January 2003, mind you this is important, weeks before the President's State of the Union address and a month before Colin Powell goes to the UN, that we are meeting with the Iraqi intelligence chief in a secret location, a back-channel. He tells us, "Hey there are no WMD and also here's the mind of Saddam Hussein. Here's why he's not worried, he's worried about the Iranians and being shown he's a toothless tiger." All this is clear later, demonstrable to the world. We know it, well before the war. The head of British intelligence, again on the record, says, you know the U.S. was moving forward like a runaway train. This was the British version of, "Let's stop this thing." We don't stop it, we ignore the intelligence chief. We then, of course, have a real problem. We put him into hiding, Mike. We pay him $5 million, from the U.S. government. We've hidden him for five years. Of course he still remains the "Jack of Diamonds," in Bush's deck of "Most Wanted Men." There's a $1 million reward for this fellow Habbush. And it has really been the smoking gun, best kept secret of the United States government. And it's one that shows clearly a lack of faith in the basic principles of democracy, in terms of transparency and especially accountability on this most August issue of war. And that's why, of course, everyone is buying it and reading it, and everybody is, congressional investigators are lining up to say, "This is indisputable. The evidence is here. Let's get people under oath with subpoenas and let's finish this." The book is actually very hopeful. It says we need to embrace truth before this era ends, if we're gonna move forward cleanly and with vigor with a kind of moral energy that has been bled away. You talk about 4000 deaths, well the fact is, what the book is about, is how over these years America has lost its moral authority and how people are struggling to get it back, now in this year of consent.

BARNICLE: Ron Suskind, thanks very much. The book is The Way of the World. It reads like a novel.

—Geoffrey Dickens is the senior news analyst at the Media Research Center.


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Suskinds work assumes that

Suskinds work assumes that the sole reason we went to war in Iraq was WMD.

Barnicle feeds on that assumption with his statement that the administration is guilty of the deaths of 4000 US personnel.

They need to grow up and think logically, rather than emotionally.

I charge libs with 3000

I charge libs with 3000 abortion murders everyday 

but i don't have a book:(

Journalism is the opium of the liberals

"And in reading the book, I

"And in reading the book, I have to tell you, in reading all your stuff, I admire all your stuff"

Barnicles thinks, "and I just might use some of it..."

Every time one of these Bush haters comes out with a new book purporting to be "the smoking gun" that will finally prove that Bush and Cheney are dastardly villains and bring this criminal administration down, the media gets beside themselves in their excitement. Then when nothing much happens, quietly, the current dragon slayer slinks away to try again.

Not to mix metaphors, but these people remind me of Wile E. Coyote and their publisher - Acme.

McNotObama '08

Now that was a prescient comment, Mr. Barnicle.

"It reads like a novel."

That's because it's fiction.

--Mike

www.thebrattonreport.com

 

just about sums it up, i think

"It reads like a novel."

'nuff said.

In their own words (thanks, Rush, for reminding us...), "The nature of the evidence is irrelevant; it's the seriousness of the charge that matters." 

Now that you mention it, I

Now that you mention it, I think Obama has many novel ideas.

"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"

he's a professional journo,

he's a professional journo, with deep pockets, digging into things we can't possibly understand 

Journalism is the opium of the liberals

"RON SUSKIND: For a lot of

"RON SUSKIND: For a lot of reasons I went to really reliable sources"

But, of course, he will never name those "really reliable sources."

I would bet that those

I would bet that those "really reliable sources" work in a funny white building in Langley Virginia and are not so much interested in accuracy of information nor defense of the nation as they are installing "the liberal new world order."

 

Government moles...

Moles in Government used to be dangerous. Now they are simply liars and comedy writers. Doesn't he have to 'prosecute' the Clinton and all of their administration at the same time. Maybe Bush should send him a few ounces (unmarked of course) of the nuc materiel removed shortly after the invasion, wrap in in some of the Chem/Bio that was shipped to Oak Ridge Tn. You know, some of that stuff that didn't exist. What an idiot, but then he's actually smarter than the Lame Stream Media donks that have him on their shows and who know for a fact he's a liar and they are simply making the lie bigger and  passing it on.. . The sooner the Lame Stream Media dies the better. Only 9% of the population trust congress and I'll bet not over 2% trust the media. BWAHAHAHAHAHA

 

 Old, Retired and glad of it.

I'm quite sure we will get

I'm quite sure we will get another Waxman/Conyers House hearings....more for impeachment don't ya' know.

...the filthy useless idiots like Suskind and Scotty McClellan....

If this was another time, another place, men like these would of been rid of during a time of war.

More to come before Nov. 

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

<<If this was another time,

<<If this was another time, another place, men like these would of been rid of during a time of war. >>

 It's a bit of a stretch even referring to them as "men".  We have terrorists around the world and here within our mainland who, given their chance, are seriously hell-bent on destroying us, our freedom, and our way of life.

Then we have whining pansies like Suskind and McClelland who want to bring down the very people who have been protecting us from these lower life forms for 7 1/2 years!

Sorry to be so somber, but I'm so sick of these cretins.

 

Mike Badnical

 

I used to think Mike jad some sense. Now I doubt it.

Why do we always have these unnamed sorces with the left?

Soubds like the same Liberal hate Bush spin thats been going on for 7 1/2 years now unrelenting.

Lefties are a s fanaticle as Islamic Fascist. 

They will loose in Nov. Watch what I say. 

 

 

OOPS  Had 

Oh, there's a book charging Bush, one for Clinton..

Oh, there's a book charging Bush, one for Clinton.. oh, a book for just about everyone. Let's see:

Bush - 4,000

Clinton - Millions.

Genocide in the Congo (Zaire): In the Name of Bill Clinton, and of the Paris Club, and of the Mining Conglomerates, So It Is!

Hmm.

What's the problem with this?

What has always surprised me about this is the willingness, on the part of, people like Barnacle, to lose all their perspective and refuse to question anything.  I'm not an expert at anything but, just this one statement:

"The head of British intelligence, again on the record, says, you know the U.S. was moving forward like a runaway train. This was the British version of, "Let's stop this thing." We don't stop it, we ignore the intelligence chief. We then, of course, have a real problem."

If the head of British intelligence knows this thing is a joke, why did Tony Blair follow us blindly into Iraq?  Oh yes, Tony, the smart one of the 2, was just mesmerized by the dumb one, of the 2, and just had to go to war in Iraq, despite his intelligence telling him how wrong it was???  Who is kidding who? 

The press has abandoned it's responsibilities since the early 1990's. During the Clinton debacle, they couldn't figure out whether to support the lies, not report the lies, or report the lies.  Considering that all they had to do was report the facts, life could have been easy for them.  They have, since that time, gotten progressively worse, trying to figure out whether to be objective journalists or cheerleaders for a moment in history, and they only get worse.

Can anyone tell me what they're teaching in journalism schools, in the United States.  Can the media at least have a mixture of liberals and conservatives, in the hope of getting the truth out.

I can't believe no one, at MSNBC, thought it would be prudent to give this guy some tough questions to answer.  Any bets he avoids Fox News???

Democrats: Stuck on Stupid since 2000.

pbthinker...

 "Can anyone tell me what they're teaching in journalism schools, in the United States." 

From the looks of where journalism is today, I would guess that they only teach "How To Press an Agenda 101".

45 Communist Goals for America http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goals.htm

Morons One and All!

Guess they idiots need to get as many shots in on President Bush as they can in his last few months in office.  I sure hope they're ready for McCain since their Chosen One BHO is turning out to be a real loser!

Somebody get these guys a new roll of tin foil for their hats!

A review of Suskind's book

Spinning a loosely woven tale about
sinister conspiracies and elaborate deceptions that only the most
brilliant minds of the century could conceive, Suskind offers a new
frontier in the emerging genre of Reality Denial. Familiar objects are
transformed before the readers eyes into a magical panoply of extra
dimensional fetish woven into a pastiche of alternative reality. The
universe itself sits awaiting its commands from the brilliant Master of
Fact and Illusion, a wizard slyly named "Bush". This wizard evades
every trap set for him by demanding the use of "facts", which serve as
an antidote to the hordes pitted against him. Aided by an enourmous
brain named Cheney, the duo conjure up magical potions of "fact" and
"logic" and a powerful overlord known as Constitution to hold their
enemies at bay.

A merry romp through the imagination of one
of the moral lepers of the literary world. Sure to please the
constipation crowd during those long waits that have the whole family
banging on the door.

America's Moral Authority

I wonder if John Edwards has lost his Moral Authority.

Fictional Characters

What I would like to know is how any reputable book reviewer can call this a non-fiction with a clear conscience. Barnicle really looked like he was having a hard time doing the interview.

Rovin

The smearing of the president

Sometime next year I want to see a book laying out the smearing of the Bush presidency in detail.  I'm sure it will get very little MSM attention, unless it comes in the form of attacks.  It should be a well researched work that lays out leftist lies in detail

When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.

Better Sales

I'll bet that book has better sales than Nancy Pelosi's blockbuster.

I would be interested enough to buy it especially if it includes graphs and charts laying out story lines, time lines and the connections between the perpetrators and financiers of the smears.

A Dud

Yet another dud from the Bush Derangement Syndrome Left. Why no names of witnesses? That's the only way to get your case before the legal authorities. The names can be kept secret while the investigation takes place and sworn testimony is taken behind closed doors. That's not going on here - in fact Suskind told Wolf Blitzer that he'd have to think it over carefully before giving up any of his sources to the court.

Suskind's greatest skill is writing in such a way as not to be sued for libel.

MIKE BARNICLE: You never

MIKE BARNICLE: You never asked the DCI, the Director of Central
Intelligence Agency, point blank, "George [Tenet] did you transport a
cream-colored piece of paper to Langley after your meeting at the White
House?"

Why wouldn't Barnicle bring up George Tenet's statement: "The second nugget involves a supposed order from the White House to me at the CIA to have my staff fabricate a letter connecting Iraq with Al Qa'ida and the attacks of 9/11. Suskind says that CIA was directed to get an Iraqi official to copy the bogus information in his own hand - and then cause it to be leaked to the media."


"There was no such order from the White House to me nor, to the best of my knowledge, was anyone from CIA ever involved in any such effort."

I got Tenet's rebuttal from the MSNBC website dated Aug.5.

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John McCain and Barack Obama - I thought it was against the law for two Democrats to run in the general election.

 

How many murders is FDR

How many murders is FDR charged with?

The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy

How about how many murders

How about how many murders could be laid on the feet of Communist Alger Hiss. After all, many people believe Hiss was Soviet agent ALES who was at the Yalta Conference. Many people from Eastern Europe were negatively affected by the Yalta Conference, and one of the topics discussed and agreed upon at Yalta was repatriation. Many people died from Tito's forced repatriation and Stalin's forced repatriation. Do you think the media would ever want to blame Communist Hiss for any of those deaths since ALES was very instrumental in the Yalta Conference?

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/hiss/hissvenona.html

And none of Bush's supposed

And none of Bush's supposed "murders" were in committed in cold blood  at the behest of the administration.

Which is more than can be said for the previous President.

They lied us into war,

They lied us into war, according to this book.

According to this book, but not according to the facts that make up reality. 

And for what it is worth, I think people are crazy to suggest America has lost its moral authority in the world.  I hear that from the fringe left but I am never given a reason why or any evidence to support such an absurd statement.  Did we lose it because we allow abortions?

Reality

Reality? What a concept!

  • LYDSEXICS UNTIE

another one

Kenneth J Roberts

What was the other guys name who has not proved anything either oh yeah McClellan and now we have another left leaning person writes a book and all of a sudden with out so much as a what is your sources? is found and touted to be true . Why print a book why not turn it over as evidence to the congress of the United States and let the congress deal with it if it is so true.  Then we can have a sitting president shot at sunrise , come on this is getting more then ridiculous can we have a break form all this tripe and the people need to demand honest journalism not only in books and novels but more important the news should be made to scorn this until it is proven beyond a doubt. 

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