Actor Ed Norton Promotes Green Propaganda on 'Today'

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As part of its celebration of Earth Day, NBC's "Today" show invited on actor/environmentalist Ed Norton to promote his National Geographic special on PBS and the "Fight Club" star actually decried America's environmental progress compared to China as he charged the U.S. had to "catch up," to them in the area of banning plastic bags.

ED NORTON: Yeah and when, and when China is ahead of us in banning these things [plastic bags], when other countries around the world are banning these things that we, we need to get in line with that and catch up.

The following is the full segment as it occurred on the April 22, "Today"

MATT LAUER: Two-time Oscar nominee Edward Norton packed a punch with his performance in the film "Fight Club," now he's fighting for a cause, planet Earth. He's narrating National Geographic's series "Strange Days On Planet Earth," which is back for its second installment premiering this week. Edward Norton, good morning, nice to see you.

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EDWARD NORTON: Good to see you again.

LAUER: Before we talk about this, this show let me talk about how you come about this because your dad was very active in environmental causes. Is this, were these discussions you guys had on a daily basis or have on a daily basis or do you kind of pick this up by osmosis?

NORTON: Very much, yeah, I sometimes say it was the family business.

LAUER: Right.

NORTON: You know what I mean? I mean some people are, you know, some people are grocers. Our family was environmental activists. My dad was the head of public policy at the Wilderness Society for many years and then founded the Grand Canyon Trust and founded the Nature Conservancy's China program and ran that program in China for many years. And so it's, I, I grew up so immersed in it that, in a lot of ways, I was just lucky. A lot of what people have been coming to realize, I think on a broader level, in the last five to 10 years my dad--

LAUER: Was part of your upbringing.

NORTON: --he, he was, he was way ahead of the curve.

LAUER: So it's a natural fit with you and this National Geographic series because basically each episode takes a look at a problem facing planet Earth but it does it in a way that is, it's, it's I think it's extremely compelling for the viewers. It presents it almost as a mystery that will be solved throughout the episode.

NORTON: Yeah the guy, the guys who make this series just did a terrific job. It was one of the first things I had seen that I felt made a real narrative out of these issues in the sense, in the same way, like if you love CSI, you'll, you'll like this series. It's, it's very much an investigation experience. It's, it's about taking mysteries, things that are actually happening in the world that seem impossibly disconnected like, that seem like they could never be connected and shows, in fact, how these scientists are tracking down the, the connections between these things that are happening. You know the way that, the way that fishing is affecting climate warming or disappearance of animals in jungles. It's, it's, it's really remarkable storytelling.

LAUER: It, it's, it's head turning material. Are you noticing, Edward, that there's a change in attitude across this country? And maybe I should ask you in the Hollywood community as well. That, that these green issues used to be seen as kind of eating your veggies. You know it was good for you. And now people are, are excited about it. And excited about the fact that in small ways they can make a difference.

NORTON: Absolutely. Yeah I think, I think it's gone way beyond the entertainment community. I don't think the entertainment community is even leading the curve any more. I think, I think this is something that, that is becoming a very broad kind of a new social consciousness. I think, I think it's way beyond politics. I don't, I think it's moved beyond being a liberal issue or a conservative issue. I think conservatives are recognizing that the economic, the economic interplay with sustainability is essential for us to grapple with. And so I think it's really, it's, it's reaching that, that level of a national mission.

LAUER: But when it comes to the entertainment community, you know for years we've lived with product placement in movies and television.

NORTON: Sure.

LAUER: You see a can of Coke here, an Apple computer here. Have we gotten to the point and are we gonna get to the point where you're gonna start to see leading actors in movies going with reusable shopping bags to the grocery store to drive home the green message?

NORTON: Hopefully. I mean I've seen a few Priuses in movies and things like that. But I think, you know, I mean I think, one of the first places that apart from in the stories I think that Hollywood or, or the film industry needs to confront is, is they need to look at the way, literally the physical footprint of the way films get made. You know there's a lot of waste in the way we make films, even.

LAUER: Is that an active discussion today?

NORTON: It is. I know a lot of people who are talking about that and I think actually the studios are being, are being pretty, you know they're doing their part. I think people, because again not, not just because it's the right thing to do but because it's cost effective.

LAUER: And we had you earlier in the show handing out our reusable shopping bags. This is based on a story that I had done a couple of months a go where you go to a supermarket and they ask you paper or plastic and the answer should be neither.

NORTON: Neither, right.

LAUER: And you made a film about this, a short film.

NORTON: Yeah we did. You know that people sometimes say like what's the, what's the one thing you could do to help and I kind of tend to say that you gotta do more than one thing. Now there's a, there's a list of things and those list of things are readily available to us but, but one thing for sure is the bags. The plastic bags are without a doubt emerging as one of the worst, stupidest things that we're doing for the environment. Those little Bodega Deli plastic bags that you use for 30 seconds and throw away actually--

LAUER: 500 billion of them around the world.

NORTON: Yeah and when, and when China is ahead of us in banning these things, when other countries around the world are banning these things that we, we need to get in line with that and catch up.

LAUER: And paper not much better, although it's somewhat biodegradable. It's just the waste of the trees and resources to make those paper bags is, is crazy.

NORTON: Yeah.

LAUER: And so it was nice to have you out there.

NORTON: Yeah, no, that's, it's great what you're doing. I think it's, that is a simple, small thing that everybody can do is, is forget about these little plastic bag.

LAUER: If you want to know more about the issues facing the planet, check out Edward's series on National Geographic. It's called "Strange Days on Planet Earth," it airs tomorrow at 9:00 pm Eastern time, that is on PBS. And Edward continued success with this.

NORTON: Thanks, great to be here as always.

LAUER: Thanks very much.

NORTON: Yeah, you're great.

 

—Geoffrey Dickens is the senior news analyst at the Media Research Center.


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Of course Edward Norton is

Of course Edward Norton is the ultimate "greeny" as the Incredible Hulk so we should listen to him.

Darth Dutch

Ed? I don't care

Ed, I know of a great place to store all your plastic bags.

Why does the MSM let these hollywood idiots express their opinion on world topics? Does anyone really care what they think?

Gee, Ed musta missed the

Gee, Ed musta missed the videos from downtown Beijing with so much air pollution that the cityscape looks like Pittsburgh, PA in 1950. Yep, we gotta lot to learn about pollution control from the Chinese...

He also says his dad was influential in the environmental movement. I guess being a longtime sewer engineer qualifies...    ;>) 

 

atheletes can' t train there

More than one of the Olympic atheletes has opted to train anywhere but China because of all the polution. A really great icon for us to emulate .

ROFL on the 'dad' thing. Great shot.

He was a guest on Opie and Anthony this morning

I had to turn off the show until he was gone, all he was doing was pushing his agenda. Love the show, can't tolerate listening to guests with a political axe to grind. Although a couple weeks ago, they did a good job demolishing ex-Governer Jesse Ventura who suddenly is a 9-11 conspiracy nut.

   NNNNOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

 

 NNNNOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I loved Ed Norton

I hate it when this happens, an actor I like turns out to be an idiot

biggest disapointment ......Harrison Ford.....he rock stupid.

 

 

 

A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
 -Thomas Jeffe

LAUER: And paper not much

LAUER: And paper not much better, although it's somewhat biodegradable. It's just the waste of the trees and resources to make those paper bags is, is crazy.

  Never mind that trees are a renewable resource and a lot of people's jobs depend on paper products.  But.... you never hear them talk about shutting down newspapers.  Some weekend delivered newspapers with all the ads, would would kill the cat if the paper landed on it.  Plus...... it's thrown into the driveway safely tucked inside a plastic bag. 

Norton doesn't sound like a

Norton doesn't sound like a nut. He sounds concerned with the environment, which I know even some of the the righties of this board care about.

Oh and some of us don't

Oh and some of us don't care about the environment boa if we disagree with the outright absolutely ridiculous stuff the greenies come up with? Some that will cost us in the end?

Gas prices ring a bell? No drilling here safely....then we have this example... First it was plastic, get rid of paper, then it is paper get rid of plastic....come on....it goes on and on...never-ending people with a never ending agenda .

$$$$$$$ for the leftists world-wide at our expense...that is all it is.

"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill

Oh and some of us don't care

Oh and some of us don't care about the environment boa if we disagree with the outright absolutely ridiculous stuff the greenies come up with? Some that will cost us in the end?

Whoa. Didn't say that. I'm saying Norton sounds pretty reasonable and that not all environmental issues are the concern of only crazy tree huggers.

Banning plastic bags is reasonable? No it is insanity!

Really? What sort of insane asylum did you break out of? Uneducated idiots like Norton should not speak about subjects they know nothing about. Sorry but there is no logical reason to ban plastic bags. This is insanity!

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

Plastic bags turn out to be

Plastic bags turn out to be godawfully bad for just about everything they come into contact with. They contain lead. We throw away the equivalent of 12 million barrels of oil's worth of the things every year. Sea turtles eat them and die. They just suck. We only manage to recycle 2% of them. Do we really need them that badly?

Plastic Bag Myths

Plastic Bag Fears Based on Misquoted Study (Bonner R. Cohen Ph.D.)
Series of blunders turned the plastic bag into global villain (The Times, UK)
The whole truth about plastic bags (Competitive Enterprise Institute)

1. Myth: Paper bags are environmentally better than Plastic Bags

"Plastic bags are 100% recyclable and for all environmental impacts related to air emissions, water emissions and solid waste those of paper bags are significantly greater than that of plastic grocery bags:

- Plastic bags use 40% less energy to produce and generate 80% less solid waste than paper.
- Paper bags generate 70% more emissions, and 50 times more water pollutants than plastic bags.
- Even paper bags made from 100% recycled fiber use more fossil fuels than plastic bags"

2. Myth: Plastic Bags use a lot of oil

"Plastic bags are extraordinarily energy-efficient to manufacture. Less than .05% of a barrel of oil goes into making all the plastic bags used in the US while 93% - 95% of every barrel of crude oil is burned for fuel and heating purposes. Although they are made from natural gas or oil, plastic bags actually consume less fossil fuels during their lifetime than do compostable plastic and paper bags."

3. Myth: Sea Turtles eat them and die

"There is no scientific evidence to show that plastic bags pose any direct threat to marine mammals."

How much or economical it is to "recycle" plastic bags is a seperate argument as it is not economical to recycle paper either.

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

I can't resist making a jab

I can't resist making a jab at the last point:

{3. Myth: Sea Turtles eat them and die

"There is no scientific evidence to show that plastic bags pose any direct threat to marine mammals."}

Okay, so the manatees, dolphins, and whales are safe. What about sea turtles? ;-)

www.rhjunior.com Great comics with a hefty dose of Christian and anti-nutjob goodness.

"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things near to you." -Miyamoto Musashi

Plastic bag threat to sea life 'exaggerated'

Plastic bag threat to sea life 'exaggerated' (News.com.au)

"Queensland Environmental Protection Agency scientist Colin Limpus said that although plastic waste was a hazard to turtles and other marine animals, the singling out of shopping bags was not justified."

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

PT

mees thinks he wast joking since turtills isn't mammals??

  i am the quixotic botg and i approved this message”   

No I got it Turtles are Reptiles

The point is they are not effected either.

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

A) Yes, it was just an

A) Yes, it was just an off-hand joke.

B) I'm not seeing the "turtles aren't affected much by plastic bags" part of the source you gave. Rather, it looks more like "what effects plastic bags have are much less than other factors". It's the difference between "A is not bad" and "A is much less bad than B".

C) Regardless, the uniquely bad rap eco-nuts have striven to give plastic bags is undeserved since the bags' negative effects on the ecosystem are vastly outweighed by other factors.

D) If people didn't dump stuff wherever they like, it would be moot point. Yet another instance of "blame the thing, not the people who make bad use of the thing", just like with guns and drugs.

E) Time for sleep, it is.

www.rhjunior.com Great comics with a hefty dose of Christian and anti-nutjob goodness.

"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things near to you." -Miyamoto Musashi

I get that plastic bags are

I get that plastic bags are recyclable. Recycling them would solve just about all of the problems they cause. Unfortunately, we don't. 2% of them get recycled in the US, 1% worldwide.

Therefore, unless you have a plan for drastically increasing the participation levels in recycling programs for plastic bags, the fact that they are recyclable isn't necessarily a strong argument for why they are not a problem.

Currently, recycling

Currently, recycling plastic bags consumes more energy and resources than it saves, but if people would just throw them away properly rather than tossing them out wherever they are, the problems they cause would be controlled. However, there are other things that have a much greater impact that we could be worrying about instead of trying to pin the blame on plastic bags.

www.rhjunior.com Great comics with a hefty dose of Christian and anti-nutjob goodness.

"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things near to you." -Miyamoto Musashi

I will give you that, he

I will give you that, he didn't sound like he was putting down anyone, BUT is he walking the walk.

When Ed Beagley Jr. wants a piece of toast he gets on a bike and generates the electicity to make it.   I have no beef at all with him.   Let him do it,

Does Ed do the same?

 

 

A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
 -Thomas Jefferson

Not everyone believes in

Not everyone believes in every facet of conservation. Some believe in just being responsible, not wasting. Some people believe in recycling or re-use their bags when they go to the grocery store. 

Ok I re-use plastic bags

Ok I re-use plastic bags all the time, because it's convientent.   banning plastic bags will not solve the problem.....Algore even said so, the problem is worse them we thought right?

and

 "I think conservatives are recognizing that the economic, the economic interplay with sustainability is essential for us to grapple with."

translation

I will use big words to sound smart.

Really just what in the hell is he trying to say here?

 

 

A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
 -Thomas Jefferson

Yeah that's a lot of Gore

Yeah that's a lot of Gore Gobbledy-gook. Sounds like he's trying to say that conservatives are realizing you can make money from sustainability. 

"Sustainability? What is "unsustainable"?

You can make money off any scam if you spread the proganda enough. But when that fails liberals can always force you to through government regulations.

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

Government Mandated Recycling is a Scam

Conservatism is about being responsible and there is nothing irresponsible about not reusing a plastic bag. Some people need to get educated, government mandated recycling is a scam and nothing more then an idiotic liberal appeal to people's emotions. Once you are educated the guilt trip can never work again.

Bullshit! - Recycling (Video) (29min)

Recycling is Garbage (The New York Times)

- Every community recycling program in America today costs more than the revenue it generates (Source)
- The market for most products manufactured from recycled materials is largely supported by government subsidies or government programs requiring recycled content in certain products (Source)
- The value of recycled materials on the open market has declined dramatically in recent years, and in many cases there is no market at all (Source)
- Manufacturing paper, glass, and plastic from recycled materials uses appreciably more energy and water and produces as much or more air pollution as manufacturing from raw materials (Source)
- We are not running out of or will we ever run out of any of the resources we recycle (Source)
- We are not cutting down “endangered forests” today to make paper. We plant far more trees than we harvest each year. Wood is in ample supply (Source)
- U.S. Forest land area increased from 747 million acres in 1997 to 749 in 2002 (U.S. Forest Service)
- Since the 1950s, timber growth has consistently exceeded harvest (U.S. Forest Service)
- We are not running out of landfill space. All the garbage we will generate in the next 10 centuries will require less than 35 square miles to a height of only 300 feet (Source)
- Landfills are no longer a threat to the environment or public health. State-of-the-art landfills, with redundant clay and plastic liners and leachate collection systems, have now replaced all of our previously unsafe dumps (Source)
- Landfills can be excellent neighbors, contributing wonderful parklands and golf courses to our communities (Source)

George Carlin can answer how I feel about plastic bags:

George Carlin - The Planet is Fine (Adults Only) (Video) (8min)

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

Uh, yeah, I've seen your

Uh, yeah, I've seen your long list o' links. Thanks, though. 

 

→ Simply astonishing

I've got a buffer full of Moby Dick if you'd like to see it.

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Now try reading them

Then when you don't understand them, read them again until you get educated thanks.

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

Actually, it's all the same

Actually, it's all the same link!

If I'd known PopTech just used the same source over and over again I might have taken the time to read one of his global warming lists ;P

Tellingly, the source he cites here provides NO links that indicate where the information actually comes from.

Government Mandated Recycling is a Scam Links

I forgot all these are the same too...

Recycling is Garbage (The New York Times)
It's OK to Throw it Away: Tell Your Kids (Roy E. Cordato, Ph.D. Economic)
Mandatory Recycling Wastes Resources, Harms Environment (The Heartland Institute)
Our Widespread Faith In Recycling Is Misplaced (Cato Institute)
Recycling is a waste of time (The Times, UK)
Recycling is Not the Answer (Cato Institute)
Recycling: It's a bad idea in New York (The Heartland Institute)
Recycling 'Like Throwing Money Away' (The Heartland Institute)
Recycling: Your Time Can Be Better Spent! (Jay Lehr, Ph.D. Ground Water Hydrology)
The Big City; Rethinking The Rites Of Recycling (The New York Times)
The Recycling Myth (The Ludwig von Mises Institute)
Wasting Resources to Reduce Waste: Recycling in New Jersey (Cato Institute)

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

Yeah, I'm still bored tonight...

It's not the one I prefer to use, but your style is fun to watch sometimes, PopTech. Kinda like watching someone get beat over the head with an encyclopedia.

www.rhjunior.com Great comics with a hefty dose of Christian and anti-nutjob goodness.

"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things near to you." -Miyamoto Musashi

I won't say he's a nut

he is however another in a long line of libtards that need to stay out of my biz. he's promoting his film, I want to ask him if he flew private or commercial or drove his Prius to do this interview????

So like many from Hollyweird

Ed, being a HISTORY major, is now a scientist?  And as is AlGore?  gimme a break.  Stick to what you do best, Ed...ACT!!!  Lecturing is not your forte'!!!  What are YOU doing Ed to "reduce your carbon footprint", flying in on your personal jet?  Yeah, that's what I thought.........do as I say.....ugh!!

"Eventually, Socialists run out of other peoples' money...." MARGARET THATCHER

Norton sounds like and educated idiot

Ban plastic bags? Why? To make morons feel better? Sorry but it has nothing to do with the environment and everything to do with liberal fascism.

George Carlin - The Planet is Fine (Adults Only) (Video) (8min)

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

Lovable landfills.

Not everyone loves landfills the way you do.

Landfills are environmentally safe

They are also much more economical not to mention recycling is actually worse for the environment.

Landfills Are Safe (Jay Lehr, Ph.D. Ground Water Hydrology)
Landfills - Developing Golf Courses on Landfills, Strip-Mines and Other Unusual Locations (The National Golf Foundation)
Landfills - Golf course opens on decontaminated Jersey landfill (ESPN)
Landfills - Florida Landfill Golf Courses

But your pathetic attempts to play with emotional arguments only work on the uneducated.

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

Yeah, I have no horse in

Yeah, I have no horse in this race. I'm just saying that I don't think Ed is the enviro-nut people want to make him out to be. Just being concerned doesn't mean you're a kook.

But I did enjoy the "pathetic" and "emotional arguments" part. 

→ I agree bal

I'm concerned about the environment as much as the next person.

I won't set a match to my burn pile unless the humidity is up and the wind is down.

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(sniff) Do I smell (sniff)

(sniff) Do I smell (sniff) mockery? Art thou mocking, foul knave? 

Nay Bal the brave.

I really do have a burn pile, and it is legal in lots of counties in Texas.

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Where I'm from, they have

Where I'm from, they have them outside city limits a lot, on farms. 

Yup

I live 100 yds outside the city limits.

Just a mile down the road, all the Network trucks are reporting from the cult procedings at the Coliseum.

I make it a point to drive by there with my granddaughter in the truck.

It's a frickin $60,000 a day daycare center.  And the state pays.

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USC?

USC?

→ No bal

San Angelo, Texas.

Home of The FLDS fiasco.

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Ah. When you said

Ah. When you said "Coliseum," I thought that was the LA Coliseum. :-)

 

Not quite

It might hold 1/10th as much as the LA open air variety.

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it is actually anti-green to do so

The bags are mostly made from waste gases that the refineries used to burn off (you've seen the burn stack at night - big honkin' flames shooting up). The bags 'sequester' the carbon and then it is buried (eventually) in a land fill. The cubic volume of all the plastic in a land fill is about 3%. Hardly worth mentioning when you work out the sub-percentage that is plastic bags, for goodness sakes.

We reuse them too for basket liners, etc.

Your first link there uses

Your first link there uses at least one very misleading statistic. Plastic bags may result in only 4% of the waste of paper, but volume is not the only consideration. Paper waste is biodegradable. It goes away. Plastic does not. So in the end, that's 4% more waste that's left behind after a plastic bag is thrown away.

Definitely not misleading

What is stated is fact and how much "waste" is left behind is irrelevant because we have effectively unlimited landfill space. But the plastic bag propaganda continues.

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

Honey Mooners

I liked him better when he was on the Honey Mooners show with Jackie Gleason.

Hey Jerry M ...I don't mean

Hey Jerry M ...I don't mean to be following ya' here but that is exactly what I thought when I first saw all of this and didn't know how to put it...now I'm laughing...thanks.

"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill

What a bummer; I love

What a bummer; I love Norton's characters in his movies.  Hard to believe he is such a dou$#3 bag in real life. :(

From this one article,

From this one article, you've deduced that he's a douchebag?

Bal

LAUER: And paper not much better, although it's somewhat biodegradable. It's just the waste of the trees and resources to make those paper bags is, is crazy.

NORTON: Yeah.

Correction: Two douchebags!

Very PUNNY, but many say

Very PUNNY,

but many say paper is actually better for the enviro'.

Very PUNNY, but many say

Very PUNNY,

but many say paper is actually better for the enviro'.

Yes, but I don't like actors

Yes, but I don't like actors and actresses that think it is their duty to become activists.  I find it offensive that just because actors and actresses have vast access to media and broadcasting that they would abuse that access with their activism.  FYI, I feel the same way about people like Bruce Willis and the late, great (actor) Charleton Heston.

Yeah, I was particularly

Yeah, I was particularly incensed by Yul Brynner and his anti-smoking activism.  What nerve he had to make a commercial lecturing us about the dangers of smoking to be aired after his death from lung cancer.  Sure it was powerful and effective and made me think twice every time I entertained a fleeting thought of resuming the habit, but still...

Jer

Bald-headed bastard..."Shall

Bald-headed bastard..."Shall We Dance" my foot...

Correct, Bal

Not only did he want to dance, he wanted etcetera, etcetera from Deborah Kerr.

BTW, Yul died in 1985. If that's the last time a hollywood activist made sense to  you . . well, that's the point, Jer.

Mica...Do you think the

Mica...Do you think the etcetera included head waxing?

Regarding Hollywood activism, I object to it being displayed at awards ceremonies and the like...otherwise it doesn't bother me.

Jer

Easy there, Jer

Head waxing? I never heard it called that before, but I like it.

Your position on useless and hypocritical hollywood activism has been noted.

There's more, Mica...

If you like that...you'd love the polishing and buffing afterwards.

Jer

We have to catch up to

We have to catch up to China on environmental policy? Tell that to the Olympic athletes who fear for their health during the upcoming Summer games.

Who?  

Who?

 

I remember

I remember working for Publix Supermarkets when plastic bags were introduced. We were told to push them on customers for two reasons: they were less expensive than paper bags, and using less paper bags was good for the environment, since less trees would be cut down.

Now we are told that the plastic bags are bad for the environment. This sounds so much like the ethanol stories I have been reading lately.

Funny you should mention

Funny you should mention shopping bags...

I have a neigbor that wants to save the planet. She only uses re-usable cloth bags when she does her grocery shopping. She owns 3 of these bags.

She has to be carefula as to how many groceries she buys when she does her weekly food shopping because she does not want to buy more stuff than will fit in her cloth bags. She wants to save the planet so badly that she will refuse either plastic or paper if offered to her. This usually means she has to make TWO trips to the grocery store each week instead of one. Anyone here see what's wrong with her intent? 

"Abstain from McCain"

Is she driving to the

Is she driving to the store, or walking?

*If you like the comments, check out the articles.

Ah.....

Never mind that trees are a renewable resource...midamerica

I told this to a kid the other day when he was commenting on saving the trees or something and he looked at me like I was nuts. I don't think anyone ever pointed out any alternative views for him; he'd just been told save the (whatever) over and over and there wasn't much else to what he'd heard.

I think Eddie is pretty mild for a green propagandist but I do think he's a little bit like the kid I spoke to despite his family history.

The beliefs of one's family are not to be questioned. 

 

 

Do as I say, not as I do

Liberals like Al Gore, Brad Pitt, George Looney, Oprah Winfey, and the like, are some of the biggest, most wasteful people on the planet.

People like Harrison Ford, Tom Cruise, John Travolta, each have 5 of more privately owned jets, needing continuous maintenance. Soaring around the world in their private jet at a moments notice. Flying back and forth to their magnificent luxurious palatial homes, burning more fuel in a month than you or I would probably use in 10 years.

These jet setter elites have nice homes everywhere in the world. A chateau in France, a mansion in Italy, houses in California, winter ski lodge in Colorado, condo in Florida, condo in New York, all with up keep, wasteful, wasteful, wasteful! ...need I continue. It's acceptable out necessity for them to use up the worlds valuable resources at their leisure, their special or more deserving than we, they paid their dues and earned it.

Let's not forget when their on a movie location/set. Actors like Ed Norton demanding in their contracts, they are provided with their own private trailer, private limousine with chauffeur, private hotel or condo. The list goes on and on.

I think most common people out of awareness do their part, it's these rich self righteous hypocrites that do not. Jay Leno with his 200 plus cars, what a joke these fake people are.

 

Methodically Debunking Norton's Propaganda

1. Fishing causes Global Warming?

This is a new one even for me, if anything the argument has been that global warming is having a negative effect on fishing, which is nonsense:

Fish growth enhanced by climate change (Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation, Australia)

2. Species are disappearing?

All these 'extinct species' is simply continued propaganda as they keep finding so called 'extinct species' to be not extinct:

Where are all the Extinct Species? (PDF) (The Marshall Institute)

Not Extinct - Almost Extinct Turtle Discovered Living In Wild In Northern Vietnam (Science Daily)
Not Extinct - Angola's rare giant sable survives civil war (The Daily Telegraph, UK)
Not Extinct - Back from the dead, the mountain mouse not seen for 40 years (The Guardian, UK)
Not Extinct - Beck's Petrel Flies Back From Presumed Extinction (Science Daily)
Not Extinct - Beetle re-emerges after 60 years (BBC)
Not Extinct - Colombian Frog Believed Extinct Found Alive (Science Daily)
Not Extinct - 'Extinct' UK bat bounces back (BBC)
Not Extinct - Harlequin Frog Rediscovered In Remote Region Of Colombia (Science Daily)
Not Extinct - Ivory-billed woodpecker not extinct (CNN)
Not Extinct - Michigan Cougars Not Extinct, Animal Droppings Indicate (Live Science)
Not Extinct - New Evidence Suggests That Monkey Thought Extinct Still Exists (Science Daily)
Not Extinct - Presumed Extinct Javan Elephants May Have Been Found Again - In Borneo (Science Daily)
Not Extinct - Rare pygmy hippos caught on film (BBC)
Not Extinct - Ryukyu Spiny Rat: Not Extinct (Japan Probe)
Not Extinct - Rat-squirrel not extinct after all (USA Today)
Not Extinct - Storm Petrel flies back from extinction after 150 years (The Daily Telegraph, UK)

3. Sustainability?

Please this is all based on socialist/communist ideology designed to play on the emotions of the uneducated:

'Sustainable development' is just dangerous nonsense (Philip Stott, Professor Emeritus of Biogeography, University of London)
Sovietizing America: How Sustainable Development Crushes the Individual (The Objectivist Center)
Sustainable Development A Dubious Solution in Search of a Problem (PDF) (The Cato Institute)

4. Banning Plastic Bags?

Again nothing more then socialist/communist ideology designed to play on the emotions of the uneducated:

Plastic Bag Fears Based on Misquoted Study (Bonner R. Cohen Ph.D.)
Series of blunders turned the plastic bag into global villain (The Times, UK)

5. Follow China's example?

Really? We should be more like China?

750,000 a year killed by Chinese pollution (Financial Times, UK)

or maybe they did not mean like this...

China plans to build 30 more Nuclear Reactors by 2020 (USA Today)

It is time for people to stop being emotionally idiotic about what is going on and start to be realistic. Environmentalists wants to take away everything you have earned, destroy capitalism and turn the US into the third world. They use your emotions to incite guilt about things you should not be guilty about.

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

Pop.Tech,

Did you see the fear peace done in the Australian this morning? The article is another piece of climate crossed with emotional crap but this time it is a bit of nostalgia (for those that remember the 70s) as it pertains to the Next Great Ice Age and it is coming soon. Fun to read if only for the irony.

http://www.theaustra...

There is truth to the cooling

The Antarctic deep sea gets colder (AAAS EurekAlert!)

The MSM seems to ignore anything that does not have to do with reality and thus the cooling in the Antarctic.

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

Oh, you just stop it, PT!

you and your lists! and facts! All the time discriminating against our *emotion* based arguments! What, don't you have emotions?! Surely how you *feel* is more important than Research!

But to have all the time to come up with these facts-you *must* be in the payroll of Big Oil! I bet you've gone to church, too!

-this sarcastic, empty, waste of space rebuttal brought to you by liberal minded socialists everywhere. :)

Keep up the good work, I'm helping a co-worker's daughter get expelled from grade school with all this anti-AGW stuff from your links-plus all sorts of stuff that "offends" her former/current hippy teacher. :)

 

"to call an illegal immigrant an "undocumented alien" is the same as calling a streetcorner drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist".

It is so true

Once you get passed people's emotions and ask them to logically explain their position you realize that they have never researched it.

Your teacher story is becoming far too common. My son just recently had a substitute teacher tell his class that the temperatures in Alaska have gone up 8 degrees since 1993! Then went on to preach the prophecy of Al Gore.

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

Wow. So you conclude that

Wow. So you conclude that species are not actually going extinct because you found 16 that turned out not to be dead after all. That's out of 735 recent extinctions, just among animals, recorded by the IUCN. I found another list that had 25 rediscovered species.

So according to your estimation, the mass extinction that most scientists think we are on the verge of will be about 2% less massive than predicted. Great.

More like Mass Hysteria

I concluded and proven that many species are prematurely labeled extinct.

Most scientists most certainly do not think we are on the verge of a mass extinct, please stop lying and spreading mass hysteria.

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

According to a 1998 poll of

According to a 1998 poll of 5,000 biologists conducted by the New York Museum of Natural History, 7 out of 10 do. (Washington Post 4/21/98)

I think that fits the technical definition of "most."

another imitator of life giving advice

Norton comes across as a nice enough guy. It's just that I have problems with taking political or economic advice from a guy who makes a living pretending to be someone else. While not a show stopper, his education is a non-degree at Yale in history. Perhaps if he'd graduated in history he might be smarter about what a scam this all is.