Torn by her liberal guilt of being forced to choose between a woman or an African-American man to have a shot at making history, Eleanor Clift lost it on this weekend's "McLaughlin Group" as she called the choice a "tragedy." The "Newsweek" editor claimed liberals, particularly women, were confused as to whether to dump Hillary for Obama as she blurted: "Women have waited decades to see the first woman president and it's actually something of a tragedy that a talented African-American guy comes along at the same [time.]"
The following is the full exchange as it occurred on the March 1, edition of "The McLaughlin Group":
ELEANOR CLIFT, NEWSWEEK: Women have waited decades to see the first woman president and it's actually something of a tragedy that a talented African-American guy comes along at the same--this isn't liberal guilt.
PAT BUCHANAN: Why's it a tragedy?
CLIFT: Because you have to choose between two people who you–
BUCHANAN: That's a tragedy?
CLIFT: Well maybe you, maybe you want, I call it a tragedy, yes. Because people, women, women in particular are having a very hard time deciding here. But this not liberal guilt! This is not liberal guilt! This is a very, I want to finish my thought.
JOHN MCLAUGHLIN: Alright, alright quickly.
CLIFT: I want to finish my thought. And that is that Barack Obama is a unique, once-in-a-generation figure.
MCLAUGHLIN: Ahh!
CLIFT: He has met every test!
MCLAUGHLIN: He's an ordinary pol!
CLIFT: He's not an ordinary pol! He's not an ordinary pol any more than Hillary Clinton is an ordinary pol! They have both, he is not an ordinary pol any more than Hillary Clinton is. They are both class-act people. And I am proud as a citizen to see that both of them are in contention.
—Geoffrey Dickens is the senior news analyst at the Media Research Center.
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Okay, the pin is officially
March 3, 2008 - 19:00 ET by Chris NormanOkay, the pin has officially slipped out of her hinge.
It slipped out years ago,
March 3, 2008 - 20:14 ET by Pete WilsonIt slipped out years ago, when Ms. Clift stated that she wanted to go to Nixon;s funeral just to be sure that he was dead. That was the time I stopped putting any faith in the MSM
Disturbing
March 3, 2008 - 18:55 ET by Wildcatter1980What is disturbing is that Ms Clift apparently thinks the Smartest Woman and the liberal Messiah are actually qualified to be POTUS! She should be concentrating on their qualifications or lack there of rather than fretting about gender and/or race.
Just my $0.02
love that liberal logic on parade
March 4, 2008 - 14:43 ET by TruthMongeras long as it's any woman or black - so we can "make history"
and also maybe really start to make progress against all the "evil conservative racism" and "gender gaps"
Qualification
March 5, 2008 - 09:56 ET by lotrYou mean as long as it's any left-wing woman or black... so we can make history...
Good catch lotr, TM implied
March 5, 2008 - 10:21 ET by dscottGood catch lotr, TM implied what you so well put a fine point to. There would be no such praise and hope displayed if it were Condi Rice or Alan Keyes. I can't wait until Janice Rogers Brown is nominated to the SCOTUS, their little leftist pointy heads will explode.
Lord Sidious / Darth Vader 2008 Long Live the Empire! Come to the Dark Side, it is your Destiny.
"...Barack Obama is a
March 3, 2008 - 18:51 ET by BuffNBone"...Barack Obama is a unique, once-in-a-generation figure" Yowser! Now that she's put it that way, none others need to apply for a whole generation.
Health care or a plasma TV? We all have to make choices. It ain't that though get on with it.
"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"
Health Care or a Plasma TV?
March 3, 2008 - 21:53 ET by m36b1BuffNBone - I haven't heard that before - but I must say that statement is one of the best slogans I have ever heard about the state of health care in this country. The people that I hear screaching the loudest about how terrible the cost of health insurance is, and how unfair our society is, have no problem blowing big bucks on new cars, high-def TV's (the more the better apparently), gigantic stereo systems, mortgages that they couldn't afford in the first place, and boxes and boxes of cigarettes. Yes, it's all about choices. Lots of hard-working folks have forgone many of these luxuries to pay for insurance and necessities. Certain sectors of society surely do feel entitled to everything for little or no effort - the there are plently of politicians willing to fleece our pockets to procure their votes.
Plasma TV, please
March 4, 2008 - 09:39 ET by Hero SquadWhich candidate gets me the plasma TV? Cause I already have health care, but my old tube television just doesn't cut it any more. :-)
*****
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
You should have bought the
March 4, 2008 - 09:42 ET by motherbeltYou should have bought the TV. You can get someone else to pay for your health care; you can't get someone to buy you a plasma TV.
"...Barack Obama is a
March 4, 2008 - 12:09 ET by misterbee241"...Barack Obama is a unique, once-in-a-generation figure"
That's funny - I always thought it was men like Reagan, Churchill, Washington and Jefferson that came along only once in a lifetime. I didnt know that applied to light weight political hacks like Obama.
So what exactly make him unique, Eleanor? He's a pol from the Chicago machine. He's a liberal/progressive/socialist/communist/marxist/take your pick. He's a populist that promises to make everybody's life a utopia and force somebody else to pay for it.
So tell me again, Eleanor, what makes HIM so unique? I really think, Eleanor, you should take Jonathan Swift to heart.
There is none so blind as they that won’t see. Jonathan Swift 1667-1745
Obama
March 3, 2008 - 18:52 ET by WR JonasI got a lot of great and talented black guys on my list. Starting with Sidney Bechet and Louie Armstrong all the way down to Thomas Sowell and Emmitt Smith. But I didn't see Barack Obama on that list because he hasn't achieved anything. If tooting your own feeble horn and making flowery speeches to impress people like Eleanor Clift are the criteria he is miles and miles away from impressing me.
Well, that's as close to an
March 3, 2008 - 18:55 ET by robert108Well, that's as close to an admission by a leftie is that their campaign strategy is to play the race card and the gender card, but now they can play only one. Dang!
What the left really needs
March 3, 2008 - 19:58 ET by ahusserWhat the left really needs is a black hispanic male who undergoes a sex change operation and becomes a lesbian. That would I guess be perfect.
Why not do both?
March 3, 2008 - 18:55 ET by Mica the Magnificent". . . a talented African-American guy comes along at the same [time.]"
Sounds like Eleanor is ready for a threesome.
Faint echoes of Joe
March 3, 2008 - 19:01 ET by BuffNBoneFaint echoes of Joe Biden.
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy ... I mean, that's a storybook, man."
Maybe Eleanor will have to do a thousand pushups for this one.
"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"
I'm so glad
March 3, 2008 - 19:04 ET by FastEdthat "And I am proud as a citizen to see that both of them are in contention" knowing that only "citizens" will be doing the voting! If the two of them were such class acts, why didn't either bow out to allow the other to be the true first? btw, when the pubs get around to nominating and then running a woman, or a person of color, that nominee WILL win. This November will be fun.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
This is why the GOP nominee
March 3, 2008 - 19:04 ET by mattmThis is why the GOP nominee should have been Condi. That way, vain and superficial people like Eleanor Clift would have been so conflicted over who to vote for that's they'd forget to vote at all.
No, Mattm, Eleanor would
March 3, 2008 - 19:27 ET by MikeBNo, Mattm, Eleanor would not have been the least bit conflicted. If Condi were running as a Republican, she would be neither "black enough" or "woman enough" to get Eleanor's (or most other Democratic's) vote.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
I watched this show Sunday
March 3, 2008 - 19:05 ET by JerI watched this show Sunday morning. Clift didn't "lose it" and wasn't "scream"ing--other than in the sense that all four of the panelists [two conservatives and two liberals] often raise their voices and talk over each other in an effort to be heard on a particular issue.
"Tragedy" was probably not the best word to use, but Clift's point was clear and frankly, unremarkable.
Jer
Yeah, I figured as much.
March 3, 2008 - 19:12 ET by balboaYeah, I figured as much. Sometimes the descriptions are exaggerated. Any description like that on here I usually dial back about 5 notches.
Yes, you can take your's and
March 3, 2008 - 19:15 ET by Chris NormanYes, you can take your's and his assessments to the bank.
If you are referring to my
March 3, 2008 - 19:24 ET by JerIf you are referring to my assessments, Chris, I appreciate the compliment.
Jer
Oh, don't be silly.
March 3, 2008 - 20:36 ET by Chris NormanOh, of course not. Don't be silly.
Gosh, I'm devastated...
March 3, 2008 - 20:44 ET by JerGosh, I'm devastated...bye-bye Cloud 9.
Jer
I'm still confused as to why
March 3, 2008 - 20:47 ET by balboaI'm still confused as to why we should take our assessments to the bank if they're worthless?
I just can't think about it
March 3, 2008 - 20:54 ET by JerI just can't think about it now, bal...I'm still in withdrawal.
Jer
»→ Withdrawal
March 3, 2008 - 20:59 ET by Cool ArrowI have direct deposit. Does that count?
♣ a seal
Just checking.
March 3, 2008 - 21:06 ET by JerJust checking.
What's the interest?
March 3, 2008 - 21:57 ET by balboaWhat's the interest?
Declining.
March 3, 2008 - 22:11 ET by JerDeclining.
I'm sure you have plenty in
March 3, 2008 - 21:03 ET by Chris NormanI'm sure you have plenty in your overdraft account.
I never get any credit.
March 3, 2008 - 21:09 ET by JerI never get any credit.
"I'm still confused..." Of
March 3, 2008 - 21:05 ET by Chris Norman"I'm still confused..."
Of course you are, Bal. I'll explain it all to you when I get some time.
Got plenty of time.
March 3, 2008 - 21:33 ET by balboaGot plenty of time.
http://www.youtube.c...
March 3, 2008 - 20:52 ET by MrShyhttp://www.youtube.c...
* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change
Mr Shy
March 3, 2008 - 21:06 ET by well99Good but prefer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFG1isS6ss8
Clift's point was clear
March 3, 2008 - 19:22 ET by SMGalbraithClift's point was clear and frankly, unremarkable
You have no problem with a reporter for a news magazine openly expressing such views?
If I were her editor, I'd be damned sure she didn't cover this election. She's clearly too emotionally or personally (however you want to characterize it) involved in the success of these candidates to keep her views from her reporting.
Not for the first time. After all, this is Eleanor Clift.
Clift has never tried to
March 3, 2008 - 19:36 ET by JerClift has never tried to conceal or deny her liberal bias. But I think you have a fair point with respect to her coverage of the campaign on behalf of Newsweek.
The same might be said, however, about Dick Morris--Bill O'Reilly's designated "go to" guy for political reporting on the candidates--in light of his near-pathological contempt for Hillary Clinton.
Jer
about Dick Morris--Bill
March 3, 2008 - 19:50 ET by SMGalbraithabout Dick Morris--Bill O'Reilly's designated "go to" guy for political reporting on the candidates--in light of his near-pathological contempt for Hillary Clinton.
Yes, but Morris doesn't cover the Clinton campaign or any other for a news organization. He's not reporting; he's opining.
No one (I hope) thinks he's doing anything other than giving analysis. Maybe O'Reilly needs to make that clear(er).
And I wouldn't call it "near" pathological. It's full blown pathological hatred. Wow.
SM...I tend to agree, more
March 3, 2008 - 20:14 ET by JerSM...I tend to agree, more than I disagree, with your view on this.
But O'Reilly disingenuously claims to be totally neutral about the candidates, and then continually offers up Morris as his go-to guy who both reports and opines. Also, you are right about Morris and Hillary...I was trying to be kind.
Jer
"The same might be said,
March 3, 2008 - 19:56 ET by ckc1227"The same might be said, however, about Dick Morris--Bill O'Reilly's
designated "go to" guy for political reporting on the candidates--in
light of his near-pathological contempt for Hillary Clinton."
Except that Dick Morris isn't a journalist who is supposed to be unbiased in his reporting, and "the Factor" is an opinion show, not a news show. He comes on O'reilly to give his opinion, not to report the news.
"Pig and elephant DNA just won't splice"
Doesn't Eleanor come on
March 3, 2008 - 19:58 ET by balboaDoesn't Eleanor come on McLaughlin to give her opinion?
Doesn't Eleanor come on
March 3, 2008 - 20:04 ET by SMGalbraithDoesn't Eleanor come on McLaughlin to give her opinion?
Okay, what is she? A commentator or reporter?
Second, someone with such strong and emotional attachments to a candidate or candidates probably shouldn't be covering their campaigns.
Not probably, shouldn't.
This mixing of opinion and reporting, it seems to me, is pretty reckless (David Shuster anyone?).
Here's How She's Billed:
March 4, 2008 - 14:34 ET by Del DolemonteOn The McLaughlin Group website, Eleanor Rodham Clift is billed thusly:
"Eleanor Clift is a contributing editor for Newsweek. She regularly reports on the White House, Congress and the diverse personalities who make up the Washington power structure."
http://www.mclaughlin.com/about/bio.htm?pid=13
Jer
March 3, 2008 - 19:58 ET by well99What I dont understand is why it is a tragedy for her?Isnt that what you want?To have a choice of the best candidates not the lesser of two evils.It should be a win win situation for her.For me they both are the pits as well as McCann.
Time to change:Socks 2008
I think she's saying it's a
March 3, 2008 - 20:04 ET by balboaI think she's saying it's a tragic situation in that the one year a woman runs that could win, a strong minority candidate is also running, instead of one in this election and one in the next.
It's a little overwrought.
Bal
March 3, 2008 - 20:14 ET by well99Your probably right.I think she should be thankful.I also feel it is lame about electing someone because of race or gender.You pick who you believe will do the best for the country.I doubt in my lifetime I will have the chance to pick between two candidates I really support.This year will be another choose between the lesser evil.
Well, Bal, Jer & Co.
March 3, 2008 - 20:18 ET by MrShyDon't forget that other hat in the ring.... Socks!
* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change
MrShy
March 3, 2008 - 20:21 ET by well99How could I forget!
Time to change:Socks 2008
Mr Shy
March 3, 2008 - 20:49 ET by well99I have bad news for Socks.Late breaking news.
http://www.youtube.c...
Haha... that's pretty
March 3, 2008 - 21:06 ET by MrShyHaha... that's pretty funny, Well! :)
And I saw your comment under Socks... thanks! It was really Jack's baby -- I just provided the voice.
* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change
Mr Shy Kudos to you and Jack
March 3, 2008 - 21:09 ET by well99Socks is the only viable candidate.
Time to change:Socks 2008
Well done!
March 3, 2008 - 21:18 ET by JerWell done!
Jer
»→ Cokie said it better
March 3, 2008 - 20:22 ET by Cool ArrowCokie Roberts summed up the feeling pretty well:
♣ a seal
CA
March 3, 2008 - 20:29 ET by well99Yes she worked hard at being corrupt.I will give her a A for that.
»→ agreed, well99
March 3, 2008 - 20:32 ET by Cool ArrowI'm not feeling sorry for Hillary, mind you, but I think Cokie's insight into the psyche was good.
♣ a seal
CA
March 3, 2008 - 20:36 ET by well99Yes that is true.
What if the next candidate is gay?
March 3, 2008 - 23:02 ET by KC MulvilleCan you imagine how pissed off Hillary would be? Especially if a gay guy beats her in the 2012 primaries? Barney Frank, call your office.
If I said something like
March 3, 2008 - 19:06 ET by bigpapa" I think we should have a white male president",,, I would be stoned to death on the edge of town...
but only because I'm a white male who is responsible for all the evil and down trodden of the world.
isn't it
March 3, 2008 - 22:31 ET by Wesenit's about content of character isn't it?
NOT EXACTLY...
March 4, 2008 - 10:04 ET by danybhoywesen,
Do you remember those old ads for Canon that featured Andre Agassi? Remember the tagline to those ads?
"Image is Everything"
That is what this is all about, on all sides. Neither of the Dems still standing should even be taken seriously for The White House, at least if this were about content. Instead it's about image, sizzle over the steak rather then how the steak tastes. The way I see it, the meat on offer should be part of a recall, & I'll be fair & throw McCain in there as well. I'm no fan of any of the 3 left.
"Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise" Mark Levin
No, Eleanor, the tragedy
March 3, 2008 - 19:22 ET by MikeBNo, Eleanor, the tragedy will be having to choose between Obama or Hillary and McCain. It doesn't matter whether Obama or Hillary is the Democrat nominee, they are both red socialists. And, McCain is no conservative. I will not give my stamp of approval to any one of these candidates. I will either vote for the Constitutional Party candidate or write in Duncan Hunter. I will never vote for a Democrat for a legislative office, or for a policy setting office, as most of the Democrat Party platform could have been lifted directly from the Communist Manifesto. Zell Miller was the one exception to that rule. McCain is not and will not get serious about illegal immigration or border security. He trashed the First Amendment with his "campaign reform" act. He is not real strong on Second Amendment issues. McCain is not a Republican, he is a Democrat lite.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
"I will either vote for
March 3, 2008 - 19:49 ET by ckc1227"I will either vote for the Constitutional Party candidate or write in Duncan Hunter. "
Why not just write in your own name? No one represents your Conservative values more than you, and, frankly, your chances of winning are about the same as your other 2 options.
Even better, write in Ronald Reagan's name.
"Pig and elephant DNA just won't splice"
Exactly the Same
March 3, 2008 - 19:56 ET by CGattonActually, they are exactly the same - that is to say, zero.
V/R
Clyde
"...the aspirants to tyranny are either the...men of the state, who in democracies are demagogues,... or those who hold great offices, and have a long tenure.." - Aristotle, Politics, c350BC
I am well aware that
March 3, 2008 - 20:47 ET by MikeBI am well aware that neither the Constitutional Party candidate or Duncan Hunter (or even I) have a chance of winning. However, I will not give my vote to a communist (Hillary) a socialist (Obama) or to a socialist lite who has spent much of his time in the Senate poking his finger in the eyes of conservatives, then getting irate when called on it. A pox on them all. My vote is precious and means something. It would be thrown away on any of these creatures.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
I hope you like
March 4, 2008 - 04:35 ET by ahusserI hope you like Obama/Clinton as president cause when all you "true" conservatives sit home in a "principled" snit you are in reality giving your vote to them. I'll take McCain or a toaster for that matter anyday of the week over the two lefties.
Vote McCain
March 4, 2008 - 10:04 ET by AgnosticA conservative, which I'm not completely, who votes for Senator McCain after having to vote for President Bush (twice) must feel that the Republican party will be so far left of their base by the next election that the nominee will be Chelsea Clinton.
The Base can't blame the Party for McCain
March 4, 2008 - 10:13 ET by Dee BunkThe public voted him in. The Base can only blame itself for not rallying around the same candidate. It's not the party's fault that the base split between Romney, Huckabee and Thompson.
Only Way Around This
March 4, 2008 - 10:23 ET by CGatton"...not the party's fault that the base split ..."
In general I agree , however, it is the party's fault that this method of primary selection even exists. One day, one shot primary, with a nice, lively get in your face convention to follow, if that's where it falls out. It is the only way for all states and party members to get a say - and did I forget closed primary.
An open primary accomplishes only one thing...it encourages people to sit on their hands and not join a party, so they can have the pretense of being moderate (neutral).
V/R
Clyde
"...the aspirants to tyranny are either the...men of the state, who in democracies are demagogues,... or those who hold great offices, and have a long tenure.." - Aristotle, Politics, c350BC
CGatton - I agree that the primary process stinks - but the open
March 4, 2008 - 11:08 ET by Dee Bunkprimary is not the fault of the Republican party. It's decided state by state. States that are open are open for both parties. I really don't think the open primaries make that much of a difference because those determined to cross could easily do so in a closed primary and then switch back the next election anyway.
I think the worst part about our elections in the general and the primary is how multiple candidates can split the vote. Anyone who wins with less than 51% should have a run off in my opinion. They could do it by having everyone rank the candidates in the order they prefer them.
Blame the party - Absolutely!
March 4, 2008 - 10:30 ET by AgnosticWhy not. The Republican party never created a message, it never created a plan of action (Contract with America being their last), they didn't reduce spending when they had the chance and they proved themselves to be just as incompitent and managing a budget as the Democrats.
If the Republican party created a message, a plan of action and followed that plan of action then the only candidates that would have been able to stand up for nomination would have been those that represented the Republican party and that wouldn't be Senator McCain.
I don't agree Angostic - Republicans had a message but the
March 4, 2008 - 10:47 ET by Dee Bunkmedia distorted it and demonized it.
It doesn't matter what the Republican plan of action is when it comes to the Presidential nominee. Anyone with an R next to their name can run. The media propelled John McCain and the base didn't come together around one conservative candidate. Romney could have won if the base came together.
Dee Bunk,
March 4, 2008 - 11:21 ET by AgnosticWhile agree with you about the media hype of Senator McCain the Republican Party did not have a long term plan that distinguished them as a party. They party was all over the map on spending and strategy. When the party signed the Contract with America and took over Congress it was in part because the American people believed that they new what to expect from the Republicans because they put it in writing and had a unified message. The message now seems to be wait and see what is political convenient and then we will let you know where we stand. This is not about individuals this is about party management. You show me a manager who doesn't have a stated game plan that all the participants understand and can follow and I'll show you a manager that is eventually going to fail.
Any Republican could run, of course, but if the Republican party had an identity the only ones could have truly run as Republicans would have been those that identified with the party. In this way perhaps Senator McCain is the best choice. He bows to the media, would rather work with liberal Democrats and is know for being irradic at times. Right now he does remind of the Republican Party.
Apparently you didn't read
March 4, 2008 - 15:29 ET by MikeBApparently you didn't read my post very well: I will not sit home on election day. I will cast a vote for Congress and any other office open. I will even cast a vote for President. It just won't be for McCain or Hillary, or Obama. The choice between Commie and Commie-lite is not a choice for me. I will vote for the most conservative candidates I can find for each office, especially congress, so that the legislative branch can keep the damage from whoever wins the Presidency to a minimum. Neither of my Senators are up for reelection this time, but when they are both Coburn and Inhofe will get my vote.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
Hi MikeB... My sentiments
March 4, 2008 - 15:39 ET by bigtimerHi MikeB...
My sentiments exactly.
off her meds again...
March 3, 2008 - 19:45 ET by wizardjrI stopped watching this show years ago. McLaughlin tends to bully his guests, not nice. In addition Larry, Clarence and the bottled blond ditz were too much for me.
She probably wouldn't be
March 3, 2008 - 19:53 ET by SchnikeysShe probably wouldn't be too much happier 4 or (God forbid) 8 years from now if someone like Sarah Palin or Condoleeza or Lynn Cheney decided to make a run.
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Grizzly Bear '08
I agree with Eleanor!
March 3, 2008 - 20:06 ET by JerryI agree with Eleanor! Having to choose between these 2 socialists would be a tragedy of epic proportions. Fortunately, I don't have to choose between the two. A 75 proof conservative is light years ahead of 2 hard core socialists.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
Of course Eleanor will place a high value on race and gender.
March 4, 2008 - 00:17 ET by R D HelmAfter all, in her world, qualifications are so overrated.
Be afraid -be very afraid
March 3, 2008 - 20:24 ET by docbThe hclintons have lived on the public dole their life till they carpetbagged it to New York for her Senate bid.
Get out your helmets , Texans… Strange that the process worked for bclinton twice in the 90’s but the hclinton campaign is confused by the unfairness of the process now!!! Is this a new plan to get sympathy or just a continuance of arrogant planning on their part….Think the later… A Dallas paper has some of the hclinton playbook but the MSM will probably ignore this.
Hillary herself was coaching precinct captains in these techniques this morning: http://www.suntimes.... On Saturday morning, Clinton told 200 precinct captains in San Antonio they needed to seize control of the election-night caucuses. ?We?ve got to do the Texas two-step,? Clinton told them. Texas? unusual hybrid primary election offers voters two chances to vote for their candidate: In the morning at the polls and then in the evening at caucuses in every precinct. …. To that end, Clinton backers passed out flyers urging precinct captains to request the ?envelope? full of materials at the caucus that will allow them to serve as temporary chair of the caucus. ?If there is no envelope, take out your own materials and announce the start of the convention,? the instructions say. ?Possession of the envelope allows you to serve as temporary chair and control the start of the precinct convention.? Clinton, her voice growing hoarse, urged the precinct captains to recruit their friends. ?There are 8,000 sites for these conventions and we want to be represented for each and every one of them,? she said.
Black or Female....
March 3, 2008 - 20:31 ET by EvilCon555EvilCon555
So it's not about the quality or qualifications of the candidate. It's only about whether they are black or a woman....simpletons....it's bloody scary....
I agree, it's not tragic,
March 4, 2008 - 17:05 ET by dscottI agree, it's not tragic, it's pathetic that the Dems can't even muster one qualified person to be POTUS. In fact the MSM has admitted as much by claiming experience is not a prerequisit for the POTUS position.
Lord Sidious / Darth Vader 2008 Long Live the Empire! Come to the Dark Side, it is your Destiny.
I haven't watched the
March 3, 2008 - 20:38 ET by Chris NormanI haven't watched the MCLaughlin Group since - well - cable, but as I recall, Ms. Clift screeches pretty much all the time. McLauglin bellows - Ms. Clift screeches.
It's just the type of voice
March 3, 2008 - 21:13 ET by JerIt's just the type of voice she has, Chris...nasal and whinish.
jer
Alas, it is a Tragedy of
March 3, 2008 - 21:12 ET by lotrAlas, it is a Tragedy of Shakespearean proportions!
Slave, thou hast slain me: villain, take my purse:
If ever thou wilt thrive, bury my body;
And give the letters which thou find'st about me
To Edmund earl of Gloucester; seek him out
Upon