On this morning's Today show, NBC's Meredith Vieira and Dr. Nancy Snyderman became born-again libertarians in their opposition to New York City's ban on bottle feeding babies. Vieira called the measure "drastic" and Snyderman urged, "not so fast." The ban even inspired "Today" to coin a new series segment called "Nanny State." However, back in 2006, when New York City infringed on another right - the right to eat fatty foods, Snyderman struck a different tone, as she gravely warned about the dangers of trans fats.
First up Vieira opened the bottle feeding ban segment on the August 2, "Today" this way:
Meredith Vieira: "And now we're gonna move on to something we call 'Nanny State.' First there was smoking and then trans fats and now baby formula? New York City health officials recently took what many see as a drastic step. Dr. Nancy Snyderman is NBC's chief medical editor. Good morning, Nancy. What is going on?"
Dr. Nancy Snyderman: "Well, hi Meredith. This is one that I think is going to cause a lot of conversation today because it's always been a divisive topic among parents, whether to give the breast or bottle. But in New York it may be the government that's stepping in to make the choice for new mothers. It's one of the touchiest turf battles in parenting, bottle versus breast. And it's gaining new steam."
Then Vieira and Snyderman, offended at the infringement of a woman's right to breast feed, concluded the segment, quite exasperated:
Snyderman: "Yeah, you know breast feeding sounds so easy but for any of us who've done it, it's a little bit tougher than people give it credit for. And I really resent the fact that there are men telling women what to do and that it's the government and it's going way beyond just health. This is gonna be controversial but I think it makes a lot of us go, uhh, just take a breath. Maybe not so fast."
Vieira: "Yeah, take a step back..."
Snyderman: "Yeah."
However, back in 2006, when it came to regulating the restaurant industry in New York, Snyderman was singing a different tune. NBC's chief medical correspondent seemed to endorse the trans fat ban, as seen in the following excerpts from her October 30, 2006 "Today" report.
[On screen graphic: "Health Alert, Trans Fats: The New Tobacco?"]
Snyderman: "Hey Matt when it comes to your health and you and I talk about this a lot, it's very important to remember that what you eat is what you are. And if you eat foods that are high in trans fat well you better pay attention because the harm they do is very real. Want a donut, a French fry, potato chips? They are all popular American foods but they may not be for long. Trans fat, a critical ingredient in all of them has suddenly become public health target number one. California attorney Steven Joseph launched the crusade in 2003 filing the Oreo lawsuit, which resulted in Kraft Foods eliminating trans fats from Oreos and reducing it in 650 other products. Since then Tiburon, California became America's first trans fat-free city and now New York, Chicago and Boston are proposing to do the same. "
[Woman #1: "We need to have things taken off our plate because a lot of times we, we don't have the discipline to do that."]
[Woman #2:" Look around there are a lot of obese people."]
Snyderman: "Why is trans fats suddenly up there with tobacco and alcohol on the list of threats to public health? Because these man made fats, which give foods a longer shelf life, are proving deadly."
...
Snyderman: "How does trans fat take its toll? Imagine this pipe is your artery and this grease is trans fat. Over time the liquid hardens and clogs the pipe and in your arteries that means a greater risk for heart attacks and stroke. With one million Americans dying from heart disease each, heart disease each year doctors believe that removing trans fats is a no-brainer. And I think, Matt, the easiest way to think about it is that trans fats do to your insides what bacon grease does to your sink."
...
Snyderman: "Well the food, the food industry is reacting quickly and Kraft was the first to do it because the trial attorneys are circling. Fat is the new tobacco. There are going to be lawsuits. And there is some research that perhaps fat is addictive in some way. So doctors have been crying about this for a while. Now as you know the politicians involved, the lawyers are circling, the fast food industry is going to respond."
The following is the entire "Nanny State" segment as it occurred at 8:22 am on the August 2, "Today" show:
Meredith Vieira: "And now we're gonna move on to something we call Nanny State. First there was smoking and then trans fats and now baby formula? New York City health officials recently took what many see as a drastic step. Dr. Nancy Snyderman is NBC's chief medical editor. Good morning, Nancy. What is going on?"
Dr. Nancy Snyderman: "Well, hi Meredith. This is one that I think is going to cause a lot of conversation today because it's always been a divisive topic among parents, whether to give the breast or bottle. But in New York it may be the government that's stepping in to make the choice for new mothers. It's one of the touchiest turf battles in parenting, bottle versus breast. And it's gaining new steam."
Alan Aviles, NYC Health and Hospitals Corporation: "We're trying to do everything we can to promote breast feeding."
Snyderman: "On Tuesday, New York City health officials announced a ban on the use and promotion of baby formula in all 11 of its public hospitals in favor of an across-the-board breast-feeding initiative."
Aviles: "Because the evidence is so clear that there are significant health benefits to mother and child."
Snyderman: "A spokeswoman for the formula industry argues it's good intent, gone wrong."
Mardi Mountford, International Formula Council: "We don't believe that it's appropriate for the government to make this decision for moms. It, it should be the moms who are making the decision based on the best available information that is out there."
Snyderman: "Currently about 24 percent of women who deliver at New York City public hospitals breast feed, exclusively. Officials want to triple that number by the year 2010, putting what many view as a personal decision on to a very public stage."
Nisha Bhandari, new mother: "Well I think it has to be a choice but it has to be like an educated choice."
Vieira: "You know, Nancy, breast feeding is obviously healthier for the baby and, and cheaper, then what is the controversy?"
Snyderman: "I think the controversy is not lifestyle but maternal choices. I mean you and I know there's so much pressure to be sort of, the perfect mom, and I'm not taking anyway, anything away from breast feeding. We all know that it's healthier. But if you start to strip formula out of the city hospitals where women of color go, they may not have the support system. You don't allow moms to stay in the hospital very long and you say breast feeding is it, I think it's gonna be harder."
Vieira: "Putting them in a bad situation, yeah."
Snyderman: "Yeah, you know breast feeding sounds so easy but for any of us who've done it, it's a little bit tougher than people give it credit for. And I really resent the fact that there are men telling women what to do and that it's the government and it's going way beyond just health. This is gonna be controversial but I think it makes a lot of us go, uhh, just take a breath. Maybe not so fast."
Vieira: "Yeah, take a step back..."
Snyderman: "Yeah."
Vieira: "Dr. Nancy Snyderman, thanks so much for joining us."
Snyderman: "You're welcome."
—Geoffrey Dickens is the senior news analyst at the Media Research Center.




















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The ban on bottle feeding
August 2, 2007 - 16:18 ET by Mean Gene Dr. LoveThe ban on bottle feeding invades the left's ideals, especially the "it's all about me" mentality. It means that it is good for mothers to nurse their children rather than wean them at 6 weeks (if they even did nurse) from their mother's milk and put them on formula so momma can go back to focusing on her career rather than her children.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." --Thomas Jefferson
Hilarious
August 2, 2007 - 16:20 ET by RJIt's hilarious to see these liberals whining about a "nanny state."
I see job opportunities
August 2, 2007 - 16:32 ET by RJBut I see job opportunities.
Since there will be moms who can't (or won't) breast-feed, "wet nurses" will be in demand again....
Yeah, but come the federal
August 2, 2007 - 16:37 ET by dervishYeah, but come the federal health care system, they'll be government employees, so roughly half will have to be men.
Oh no! Not the Hooters case
August 2, 2007 - 16:39 ET by MightyMouthOh no! Not the Hooters case again!!!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Sadly, Hooters new owners
August 2, 2007 - 16:44 ET by sarcasmoSadly, Hooters new owners settled with the EEOC, but before they did I used to hold Dade County Libertarian Party meetings there, to support 'em against big government's anti-boob depradations. And I bought their classic "Hooters Guys???" protest shirt with the ugly dude in a Hooters Girl uniform, too. :)
JMR -- who knows way too much about that case...
Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul.
volunteers
August 2, 2007 - 16:57 ET by LionKingSome politicians will volunteer.
Men don't have the temperment
August 2, 2007 - 16:53 ET by RJMen don't have the temperment or patience for it. The little buggers bite!
'Today' Double Standard: Ban On Trans Fats - Good, Ban On Bottle
August 2, 2007 - 16:54 ET by PamTo ban either, imo, is unconstitional. Her analysis of transfats was correct, but heart and stroke are only a part of the complications...diabetes has been on the rise since the introduction of transfats. Not everyone is affected negatively by transfats. Regardless of the damage it does to one's body, NYC doesn't have the right to dictate to the people what they can eat..Nor do they have the right to dictate breast feeding. this passage is the most troubling:
What about the women that have their babies in daycare for 8-10 hours a day? Just how much does NYC think a woman is going to pump to cover that?
their babies in daycare for 8-10 hours a day?
August 2, 2007 - 17:02 ET by vrwc13Maybe NYC will pass a law for paid maternity leave so mama's can stay home with their babies!
I know this will raise a lot of hackles, but....
August 2, 2007 - 17:32 ET by RJI know this will raise a lot of hackles, but I see nothing wrong with a banning of trans-fats. It is admitted to be dangerous, and our government regularly bans dangerous substances from our food. In this case, anyone who looks into it will find that trans-fat has become ubiquitous and difficult to avoid.
For those who advocate a hands-off attitude, a look at the food practices and standards in China shows the other (extreme) end of the spectrum.
Some things just don't belong in our food, and, sometimes, banning is appropriate.
well...
August 2, 2007 - 17:41 ET by LionKingWhen enough nuts get in place, then the ban on meat will come.
Chicago banned fois gras. Quite a few cities have banned smoking in restaurants. We pay so much in taxes now, what if they decided to raise taxes to 50%. The point is, the government does not need to meddle so much...it is called personal responsibility. I hate this nanny-state mentality.
[btw...I am no fan of fois gras or smoking, but I respect an individuals right as long as it does not impose on me or my family. As if it needed stating, I am not a fan of the 50% tax either!!!]
LK
August 2, 2007 - 17:47 ET by RJAnd I would fight and argue against ALL those bans. Just because government does ridiculous things, it doesn't mean everything it does is wrong.
Again, my point is that some substances in our foods are rightfully banned. Wanna put the cocaine back in Coke?
RJ...yummm...
August 2, 2007 - 17:51 ET by LionKingI understand your point. Are you saying that trans-fats are purposely being put into foods. Cocaine was added as an ingredient...this is referring to banning foods that contain trans-fats. I see a difference, I hope you do too.
Trans-fats are the result of a process
August 2, 2007 - 17:54 ET by RJTrans-fats are the undesirable result of a specific process (partial hydrogenation) that is intended to give oil a longer shelf life.
All trans-fats
August 2, 2007 - 17:58 ET by LionKingThis would make margarine a banned substance...I can see it now...black market margarine.
I kinda grow weary of all of this health-food stuff because in the end, we are gonna die...no matter what.
I don't see this as a "health-food" issue, LK
August 2, 2007 - 18:04 ET by RJI don't see this as a "health-food" issue, LK. Trans fats are the result of a deliberate alteration of oils. It's done for mainly economic reasons. Causing it to be in our food is no different than adding any other dangerous ingredient.
Trans-fat free
August 2, 2007 - 20:52 ET by LionKingI just finished dinner with the family at Souper Salads...they have a sign on there tables...Our Menu is Completely Trans-Fat Free.
Funny coincidence
LK, To balance you,
August 2, 2007 - 20:54 ET by Chris NormanLK,
To balance you, tonight I'm going to eat at Lardisus.
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
Cooked in Crisco, I hope
August 2, 2007 - 20:59 ET by RJCooked in Crisco, I hope, for old time's sake. It was the first trans-fat product, introduced almost a century ago.
Evening RJ... That is
August 2, 2007 - 21:06 ET by bigtimerEvening RJ...
That is what I fried my chicken up in this late afternoon...
The best!
evenin BT
August 2, 2007 - 21:12 ET by RJevenin BT.
It's good that you still like it....because it's been reformulated to have no trans fats. :^>
I know RJ... My husband
August 2, 2007 - 21:26 ET by bigtimerI know RJ...
My husband has diabetes...he just found out about a year ago.
I learned quite a bit about some things I did not know.
On the other hand, he is the one that almost always has had to had everything fried...nothing I could do about it...
Well, I can now...
It is seldom....lol!..which by the way is more to my taste...
What's funny is trans
August 2, 2007 - 18:57 ET by ckc1227What's funny is trans fat(margarine) was supposed to replace the deadly killer known as butter, lol.
"Land of the free" is becoming more and more nothing but a bumper sticker slogan for America.
My bad cholesterol numbers
August 2, 2007 - 19:29 ET by drillanwrMy bad cholesterol numbers were higher when I used marg. than with real butter.
I am no fan of fois gras or smoking, but I respect an individual
August 2, 2007 - 19:39 ET by PamWhat NYC is finding, with that ban on smoking, is that the smokers are congregating outside, and those that live near these bars/restaurant can not have their windows open at night because of noise/smoke!
You must be a leftist
August 2, 2007 - 19:44 ET by Pambanning is so leftist
Way to go, Pam
August 2, 2007 - 20:46 ET by RJGreat argument. Especially love the way you dissected my arguments, point by point. :^>
trans fat
August 2, 2007 - 23:55 ET by longriderO, my…If we could only tax it like that nasty ole tobacco. I
wonder which causes more deaths. Trans fat or tobacco. Damn…I am so overjoyed
that my government is so concerned about my health.
The ONLY choice a woman has
August 2, 2007 - 18:04 ET by drillanwrThe ONLY choice a woman has the right to is to abort her baby ...
NOT:
1) what/how to feed it or
2) what schools she wants her tax dollars used on for her child to attend
Its alternately (hilarious,
August 2, 2007 - 18:29 ET by Chris NormanIts alternately (hilarious, maddening, sad, unbelievable or totally believable) to see liberals profess dismay at the kind of things that result from policies and ideas that they have applauded all along. I've watched my liberal brother get upset at political correctness and when I point out it comes from people he normally supports, he tries to deny it...
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
The Nanny State, Full Disclosure and Choices
August 3, 2007 - 00:25 ET by HeikiHi, I'm new here but this is an issue that I feel fairly strongly about, so here goes:
The banning of trans-fats is not about going after the evil purveyors of "unsafe" (read as: delicious) foods. It is about using the power of government to COERCE people into modifying their habits in ways that liberals deem beneficial. I'm all for indicating clearly that trans-fat is being used and letting the consumer decide whether or not to partake. Same thing applies with the smoking bans. There is no good reason why sufficient air conditioning/filtering systems cannot be installed to make clubs close to smoke-free as a general environment. Catching a whiff of someone's cigarette walking past a booth can calling it Secondhand Smoke exposure borders on the ridiculous IMO. What about the last time you sat for an hour behind a dumptruck in traffic, breathing the black clouds of exhaust being spewed from the tailpipe? But that's not the ultimate point of the ban. The ultimate point is to discourage smoking by making it as much of a hassle as possible for the smokers to indulge, with the aim of inducing them to give up the habit. I don't know how many smokers have quit because they can't light up in the club, but I do know that many of the clubs that I've been to where smoking has been banned have ended up having, as was cited earlier, loud congregations throwing litter onto the streets and in effect, bringing the club out onto the sidewalk, where people who didn't sign up for club activity are exposed to it without their consultation. Ban margarine, anyone?
Heiki - Welcome to NB !
August 3, 2007 - 00:47 ET by Free StinkerWelcome to Newsbusters!
Ban margarine, anyone?
If Hillary gets elected and gets a Democrat congress, Margarine would just be the begining.
My favortive - Diet Coke would be gone. These Stalinist control freaks can't have that nutrisweet out there. Then Splenda & Sacharin would have to go.
Nanny State
August 3, 2007 - 12:13 ET by misterbee241So, can anybody tell me why it's anybody's business, government or otherwise, whether nor not a mom bottle feeds or breast feeds her child? Does bottle feeding cause global warming or something?
Liberals like this bunch want a nanny state so they should not be kicking over this.