Hollywood Celebrities Perform Fake PSA Encouraging Casual Sex Facebook Status
It’s no secret that Hollywood and its ‘values’ are contributing mightily to the moral decay of American culture, and 2011 romantic comedies have been some of the raunchiest to date. But the stars of the summer 2011 sleazy hookup film “Friends with Benefits” have involved Facebook in promoting their flick.
Justin Timberlake and Mila Kunis star in “Friends with Benefits,” a movie that glorifies a casual and strictly sexual relationship among friends with no emotional strings attached. Kunis and Timberlake have taken to dramatically mocking Public Service Announcements by participating in a 60 second video asking viewers to “support a friends with benefits status option,” to appear alongside the traditional statuses of single, engaged, married, etc.
The actors, dressed conservatively and against a plain backdrop, donned stoic faces and pleaded with viewers and Facebook users to talk about a “very serious issue.”
“Social networks are failing to meet the needs of an underserved population,” Timberlake said, while a tragic piano solo played in the background. “Why are we denying a voice to those who are in a casual, sexual relationship with a friend!?” Kunis rhetorically wondered. “But now there’s hope. A growing movement of people, united. So donate your status today for this very, very important cause,” she continued. “Just remember, every click counts,” Kunis dramatically implored.
The video ended with Timberlake, facing Kunis, casually dropping to his knees to perform, what viewers can only infer, is oral sex on his costar.
Perhaps not surprisingly, Timberlake and Kunis have taken to performing their on-screen groping during live television. At the MTV Movie Awards on June 5, 2011, the pair casually grabbed each other's genitals as they presented the first golden popcorn award.
But inappropriately touching a woman’s chest on stage is not new for Timberlake. He shocked the nation when he exposed Janet Jackson’s nipple during the 2004 Super bowl halftime show in an incident that became known as “Nipplegate.”
Timberlake’s movie is only one in a string of lewd “romantic comedies” about the hookup culture to hit theaters this year. Tinseltown gave us “No Strings Attached” and “Love and Other Drugs,” two movies that purport the same f**k buddies theme as “Friends with Benefits.” “Hall Pass,” released in February, followed the adventures of a few white, suburban, middle-aged husbands given a “pass” by their wives to do whatever and whomever they wanted for one week, consequence-free. As one might expect, the men spent their week chasing skirts and partying like frat boys.
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Friends with benefits =
Submitted by almostacowboy on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 10:39am.
chlamydia, syphilis, AIDS, gonorrhea, bacterial vaginosis, genital herpes, crabs, scabies, just to name a few "benefits".
Love social media
Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 10:43am.
Wish FaceBook was around when I was still 19. I could have found somebody from the comfort of my own home instead of spending thousands of accumulated dollars buying women drinks and meals
Good for FaceBook and their innovation. Man what most men would not give for Timberlakes life. Young, good looking , talented And pretty much his pick of any starlett he wants.
Our resident...
Submitted by DumbCanuck on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 10:52am.
...sexaholic has chimed in.
TMI, shawn... TMI.
"There... Are... Four... Lights!"
TMI?
Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 11:02am.
That i wish this was around when I was a kid and many men are jealous of Timberlake?
Wow can't get more graphic than that :-)
Sad
Submitted by iveseenitall on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 10:58am.
What immature, ignorant "libralism" has wrought.
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal" (progressive)
It's too late for me
Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 11:03am.
I am married and faithful. I am just saying I wish this was available when I was younger.
Well
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 11:15am.
at least it's available for your daughters & granddaughters.
Nice try
Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 11:18am.
I never said this was for kids many can't adults enjoy this?
I wasn't trying for anything
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 11:32am.
This is just another step downward that our kids will come to know as "normal" life.
This is why we need to protect our kids
Submitted by shawn. on Tue, 06/28/2011 - 10:45am.
......and have this available for adults.
well Shawn
Submitted by Hoosier Conservative on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 12:02pm.
When/if you have a daughter closing in on being 16 or 17, one of those 19 year olds will be checking her out. You're naive if you think otherwise. Yep, some sleezbag boy will be sexting her from the comfort of his bedroom, where he doesn't have to spend money on dinner, and before she gets around to meeting him face-to-face, she'll already be halfway in love with him.
Have fun telling her she's not allowed to drive across the state line to meet a boy from the internet that she's practically in love with.
Sometimes you are like a cartoon character from a video game.
I see your point
Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 3:16pm.
I am just saying this a good way for adults to meet each other. I remember when i was younger we had to out to clubs, pay the cover fee and spend hours listening to crappy music to only have a 20 percent chance of meeting someone
With FaceBook, you don need to go out and if the person you meet is not interesting, the next person is just a few clicks away
I am also saying I understand your point about trying to protect children from predators and I agree this should not be for anyone under 18. Timberlake is very much an adult. Would i want a relative to hook up with somebody? Probably not, but if a person is 18, they can make tha choice on their own
I also love video games very much. Thank you for your post.
shawn*
Submitted by cajun2 on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 3:38pm.
A "victim" doesn't have to be a minor. People brought up with this new techonology as a method of socialization may feel safe under the guise of anonymity. But that is not the only threat.
Please read my post at the bottom of this thread.
Thx Cajun
Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 3:58pm.
FB hookups are not for everyone. I just do not believe it is mostly bad.
Facebook relationships
Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 3:46pm.
My hairdresser is 23, and has "met" guys on facebook and online dating sites. The stories she tells are something else, and I don't envy her singleness at all.
Meeting someone online provides both parties the opportunity to lie and misrepresent themselves. The person may be interesting online, but that doesn't mean that is who the person truly is.
A relationship, like everything else in life, requires an investment of time, effort, and yes, some capital. Cutting corners through facebook can lead to dangerous situations, for people of both sexes.
shawn*
Submitted by cajun2 on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 11:21am.
Look up the real definition of faithful.
I did Cajun
Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 3:22pm.
Thanks
1. steady in allegiance or affection
2. reliable
3. true to fact or standard
shawn*
Submitted by cajun2 on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 3:30pm.
It also means. loyal and conscientious. Think about that shawn.
I did Cajun
Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 3:45pm.
I clean the house, I cook dinner, I buy her flowers and tell her how beaufiful she looks every day. I am honest about what I view online and who my online friends are
The only thing I don't tell her is how brutal some of my exchanges are with certain NB members and I am ashamed of some of the things I say in response to flaming
So I have a clear conscience............most of the time :-)
You are right shawn*
Submitted by cajun2 on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 4:02pm.
I agree not to discuss this issue with you any further. You still fail to grasp my meaning in my posts to you. If we continue, you will end of calling me the High and Mighty Lord Voldajun and I will respond with something like "arrested adolescence"...
Have a nice evening.
Cajun I made those comments
Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 8:52pm.
........before Christmas of last year. I will never flame anyone that does not insult me first or falsely accuse me of something I did not say. You have a nice evening as well.
Hyuk
Submitted by the mad pole on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 11:00am.
"And pretty much his pick of any starlett he wants"
And pretty scabs to pick where he doesn't want!
Yes I am sure
Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 3:25pm.
.........every single hookup will result in STD or unwanted pregnancy
And that type of thinking...
Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 3:26pm.
is why a preventable disease like AIDs is still around.
Well Rad
Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 3:32pm.
The fact people do not use protection which is 98 percent effective against the HIV virus is a reason too
Yes I know abstinence is 100 percent effective but some people just want sample other dishes before marriage and if that is what they want to do, then use protection.
that was my point about AID's
Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 3:38pm.
Every "hook up" outside of a monogamous relationship should be looked at as an opening for all sorts of nasty and deadly diseases.
Your right
Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 3:54pm.
Just like every time you get in your car there could be a chance of something happening. However most folks wear a seatbelt and hope for the best
I think anyone that wants to remain faithful is a great thing, I am just saying I find nothing wrong with folks that want to experiment to choose the right person
Another Shawnado in the forecast..
Submitted by The Vet on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 12:40pm.
Ah good, Shawn and friends loves what the Facebook can offer -
PNP warns of Facebook predators
Social network predators: Psychopaths let loose on the Net
New Scrutiny for Facebook Over Predators
Thousands Of MySpace Sex Offender Refugees Found On Facebook
Predators On Facebook Tough To Track
How Online Predators Make Use of Your Facebook Profile
Someone Stop Facebook’s Creepy Predators, Facebook Executive Implores
Sexual Predators on Facebook
Oh sorry Shawn, what was it you were saying about picking up the young chicks on Facebook?
Huh?
Submitted by CobraMan on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 4:21pm.
"Wish FaceBook was around when I was still 19. I could have found somebody from the comfort of my own home instead of spending thousands of accumulated dollars buying women drinks and meals"
Talk about being anti-social! What's the matter, are you afraid of actual social contact or something? Why didn't you just try mail-order brides? That's about as social as Facebook is.
That attitude is also very self-centered. YOUR comfort and convenience is far more important than anther's, apparently, especially for your prospective mate. After all, social contact is too expensive for you, correct?
As for admiring Timberlake, well, as he has a LOT of actual, physical, social contact on a daily basis. Facebook should be the LAST venue for meeting the "right" woman that anyone should try. Do as Timberlake does, GO OUT AND MEET PEOPLE.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Not at all
Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 8:56pm.
I have nothing against going out to meet people and I never said my comfort is more important than anyone elses. I said it would have nice to have around when I was younger. Going out is expensive.
Meh
Submitted by Unsane on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 6:40pm.
Who's this Timberlake? And why should I be jealous of him?
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Not saying you should be jealous
Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 8:05pm.
Just lots of men are. Be is young, rich and has dated some of most beautiful women in Hollywood
Madness of crowds?
Submitted by Unsane on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 8:21pm.
Well, I'm not and none of the guys I hang out with are. I guess it depends on who your roll with...
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Your right it depends
Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 8:41pm.
Don't forget about the rich thing. You could afford to buy as many history books as you can handle and set up your library any way you want. Not mention the funds to watch any "Rush" concert anywhere in the world ;-)
Meh (2)
Submitted by Unsane on Fri, 06/24/2011 - 7:38pm.
I can pretty much do that now on a more meager income. Not impressed.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Really?
Submitted by shawn. on Fri, 06/24/2011 - 8:46pm.
Wow Rush front row seats in New York City on your salary. Wow you must be doing very well for yourself.
I know would love to have some of his money.
Hmmmmm....
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 06/27/2011 - 8:26pm.
It's not really any of your business what my salary is. I didn't get front row Rush tickets in New York. I got floor seats in Austin.
Some of us are just easily contented. I'm sorry I don't look at how other people live all the time, because I am too busy going about how I live mine.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
I never asked your salary
Submitted by shawn. on Mon, 06/27/2011 - 11:06pm.
I said I was impressed you could do those things on your salary. You might not be jealous, but I know I would love to have tens of millions to spend any way I want.
Hitting the like button
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 06/27/2011 - 11:11pm.
LIKE!
He's talented, funny, can
Submitted by balboa on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 8:43pm.
He's talented, funny, can sing, but most of all...
Jessica Biel.
Not really
Submitted by Unsane on Fri, 06/24/2011 - 7:41pm.
Talented? Hardly.
Funny? Can't say I have been exposed to his humor, so I'll leave that to you...
Can sing? No.
Mr. Timberlake is yet another in a long line of manufactured, boiler-plate "musicians".
Jessica Biel? Meh...
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Lolol. Yes, I get it, only
Submitted by balboa on Fri, 06/24/2011 - 8:36pm.
Lolol. Yes, I get it, only Charlie Daniels has talent, etc., etc.
Nice try
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 06/27/2011 - 8:29pm.
Sorry bal, wrong genre.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
"Liberal" Cancer
Submitted by iveseenitall on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 10:53am.
Modern liberalism is a cancer which has been eating away at our nation for decades. And it is no more evident than the corruption of our young people. The media and the "educational" system have used the immaturity and ignorance of youth to push their disgusting agenda-- an agenda which, slowly but surely, is bringing death to our once-great nation. Being a "liberal" is easy --- no rules , no values, no dignity. Everything is "relative". Act on your emotions, and don't think about the consequences. In fact, don't "think" at all. Blindly do what feels good at the moment. The modern "liberal" is a hypocrite who has played upon the most vulnerable in our society for years. They've created true "victims" of smut and violence, many of whom will suffer because they've never been shown the truth. Quite ironic, since the hypocrites preach just the opposite about preying on our children. Sad.
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal" ( progressive)
Erin, have you seen No
Submitted by balboa on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 10:51am.
Erin, have you seen No Strings Attached or Hall Pass?
No Strings Attached
Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 3:39pm.
That was one foul and unfunny movie IMHO. Crude for crudeness's sake, and I'm talking about the language most of all.
Rad1979
Submitted by balboa on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 4:05pm.
It wasn't very good, other than my Natalie. (sigh)
But my point was more that, if the author HAD seen those two movies, she would have seen that in the end of No Strings Attached, the characters found out that they couldn't have meaningless sex, that actually they had fallen in love.
And in Hall Pass, the leads discover that it's actual family that they care most about.
bal
Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 06/24/2011 - 7:51pm.
All I can say is that when I see Natalie all I can think of is Padmae.
I'm less confused than the kids
Submitted by the mad pole on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 10:58am.
First they wanna-be black, now they wanna-be porn stars, will there be a time when these adolescents wanna-be taken seriously? Their viagra commercials should be a hoot.
It always amazes me that so
Submitted by Free Stinker on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 11:19am.
It always amazes me that so many Liberal women will tolerate being treated as a sex object.
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
Maybe they see it as them
Submitted by balboa on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 11:25am.
Maybe they see it as them treating the guy like a sex object?
Right
Submitted by iveseenitall on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 11:38am.
Right on, Bal. For years women have been treated as sex objects, so why not do the same they've purported to hate. It's like affirmative action, the way to fight prejudice is to do the same thing.--- Typical "liberal" "logic". (sad).
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal" ( progressive
These are not purely liberal
Submitted by balboa on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 11:40am.
These are not purely liberal or conservative traits.
Bal
Submitted by Free Stinker on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 11:48am.
You may be right, but that doesn't mean the women aren't also being treated the same way.
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
Free, haven't you seen what
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 11:28am.
Free, haven't you seen what liberal women look like?
Just take a look at the difference between liberal and conservative women.
Libs will tolerate it because they have no other choice!!!! LOL
You make a good point Scoob.
Submitted by Free Stinker on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 11:46am.
You make a good point Scoob.
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
Incremental steps*
Submitted by cajun2 on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 1:00pm.
As most of you know, I have posted many times about "freedom" fighters efforts to change the moral boundaries of our society. They are perverts and need no boundaries, no consequences, and approval for their behavior. They start by changing societies taboos to acceptable behavior in incremental steps.
It is called "grooming". It is the same action a sexual predator uses to "set up" a victim for his particular perversion.
There are many websites and documented studies to show exactly how this is done if you care to read, NAMBLA has its own "guide" as to "grooming" and avoiding arrest.
If you care to read, this is but a single example
ScubaDude
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 8:12pm.
Dana Perino! 'Nuff said.
Cool Arrow
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 8:37pm.
I concur!!!!!!
Lost bennifits
Submitted by CobraMan on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 4:11pm.
The "friends with benefits" moniker should be changed to "lost benefits.,' for this type of "causal' relationship diminishes, and, in many cases, eliminates, the fulfilling, and physiologically necessary, benefit of sustained, emotional relationships.
We are very emotional creatures. One of our biggest "emotion" is attachment. We NEED those long-term relationships. Our mental, emotional, and even physical, health is dependent upon them, for it is a survival tactic, one that is VERY effective. This "casual" attitude is antithetical to that strategy, that survival tactic. It has lead to the downfall of over far to many societies, and their citizens within that society, to list. Just look at the Romans for an example. There's the perfect example of what "casual" relationships can do for societies.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
So....
Submitted by IRQ Conflict on Thu, 06/23/2011 - 8:34pm.
they want a slut option eh?
Nobody's perfect, but Justin Timberlake should be
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 06/24/2011 - 8:08pm.
saluted instead of slammed. His charity work, direct financial contributions, and continuing commitment to children's causes are remarkable testaments to a truly selfless young man.
Perhaps Ms. Brown should briefly suspend her indignance and reflect on the number of young lives which have been saved by the tens of millions of dollars Timberlake has raised for the Shriners Children's Hospital.
Jer
Jer
Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 06/24/2011 - 8:18pm.
What you're talking about is like the way the Catholic Church used to sell indulgences. Bad behavior can be forgiven, if you buy your way out of it.
Good Point Ms Rad*
Submitted by cajun2 on Fri, 06/24/2011 - 8:44pm.
If Anthony Weiner had donated millions to organizations for Child Sexual Abuse Victims then following Jer's logic, Weiner should have been saluted not slammed, right?
When was the last time you read or heard about Timberlake
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 06/24/2011 - 9:19pm.
trashing a hotel room, beating up a girlfriend, busted for drugs, involved in a club brawl, arrested for DUI, caught on tape screaming obscenities, etc.--you haven't.
He has given hundreds of thousands of dollars back to his community, to Katrina victims, to various children's causes, and, as noted, has raised tens of millions for the Shriners Children's Hospital. [A sister died during childhood.]
This world would be a better place with more Justin Timberlakes.
Jer
Yeah Jer
Submitted by shawn. on Fri, 06/24/2011 - 9:27pm.
..........but it does not excuse his inexcusable dastardly deed of trying to have folks have a little fun before marriage. What's next? Promoting birth control?
Jer
Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 06/24/2011 - 9:29pm.
But perhaps the world would be a better place if Timberlake wasn't encouraging indiscriminate sex between strangers.
He isn't.
Submitted by balboa on Fri, 06/24/2011 - 9:35pm.
He isn't.
Jer*
Submitted by cajun2 on Fri, 06/24/2011 - 9:39pm.
If you travel down the wrong road, does it matter how far down that road you go before you crash?
Well, if you're mowing down a few pedestrians
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 06/24/2011 - 9:51pm.
at each intersection you drive through, then, yes, I suppose it does.
Jer
cajun...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 06/24/2011 - 10:05pm.
To be clear, I'm not endorsing Timberlake's character or the plot of the movie.
I can't stand the inane teenager-targeted flicks. If it promotes casual sex between adolescent pals, then bad for him. Maybe his next role will be Thomas Aquinas.
But with respect to Timberlake--the individual, not the actor--well, there are far worse role models.
Jer
Yes Jer*
Submitted by cajun2 on Fri, 06/24/2011 - 10:12pm.
LOL, You knew very well what my reference was in "wrong road" post.
We cannot "settle for " somethings involving our convictions. Isn't that how we elected Obama?
Well good for him, his music
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Fri, 06/24/2011 - 9:40pm.
Well good for him, his music still sucks. Nuff said.
Yeah, but he plays to a 6
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 06/24/2011 - 9:53pm.
Yeah, but he plays to a 6 handicap. Nuff said.
Jer
Grrrrrrrrrr, last I checked
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Sat, 06/25/2011 - 3:57pm.
Grrrrrrrrrr,
last I checked I had a 24 handicap. Then again I have to work for a living and play on public courses. Then again Bethpage is a wonderful public course. :-)
Lots of liberals say Fox News sucks
Submitted by shawn. on Fri, 06/24/2011 - 9:56pm.
Unfortunately they can't deny Fox News gets more viewers than their choice of network. Nuff said :-)
Apples and Oranges if you ask
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Sat, 06/25/2011 - 3:59pm.
Apples and Oranges if you ask me. There are far more talented musicians out there that do not get the recognition that Timberlake receives. Then again pop music sells by how well you look and not how talented you are.
Not really
Submitted by shawn. on Sat, 06/25/2011 - 4:56pm.
I think Chris Mathews sucks and Chris Wallace blows him away. A liberal can tell me all he wants Matthews is better because Wallace is a racist homophobe, but bottom line is Wallace has 3 times Matthews viewers. Opinions on who is more talented is subjective and not an absolute.
Timberlake makes alot of money doing what be does because enough people buy his records. Regardless if somebody thinks an artist is more talented than Timberlake, if that artist cannot afford to pay the bills, then they can't claim to be a success.
Weak
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 06/27/2011 - 8:35pm.
You sound like a friend of mine who simply refuses to listen to any music not validated by radio stations or MTV because his standard is "It's good because it's POPULAR!!!!" You adhere to the very same weak philosophy.
The BEST music gets passed around by word of mouth. It is just about to the point where it's a case of "the more obscure, the better".
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Good music
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 06/27/2011 - 9:35pm.
People like Timberlake are groomed by the music industry to appeal to the largest segment of the population. Someone like him becomes popular because of the young girls who love his looks and image first, music second.
I used to hate Oprah's book club because all the sheep would read her books and love them because Oprah said to. Music is the same way.
I would definitely agree in
Submitted by balboa on Mon, 06/27/2011 - 9:47pm.
I would definitely agree in regards to Timberlake's early career, but his solo stuff is way less pre-fab.
Ehhhhhhhhh.....
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 06/27/2011 - 10:53pm.
I gotta disagree. I can't escape his music at work; they play nothing but pop, hip-hop (interchangeable terms?), country, and Tejano at work. Timberlake sounds just as pre-fabricated and groomed to please the hoi polloi as anything he did early on.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Egads Uns
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 06/27/2011 - 11:02pm.
Don't your ears ever bleed? You should compensated for that.
No bleeding ears but...
Submitted by Unsane on Tue, 06/28/2011 - 7:26am.
No, but my brain is thoroughly numbed at work. Which, I think, is the objective behund their music selection.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Interesting point
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 06/27/2011 - 10:50pm.
Rad, this is why I am very leery of reading books that are "popular". Why did I never read Dan Brown and refuse to read him? Because during my frequent visits to airports in the English speaking (and reading) worlds, I would see at least 50 people reading his books on the plane. This to me raised a major red flag.
I can't understand the herd mentality. Never have, never will. Why can't people like what they like?
That's really why, in some ways, I am so vocal about bands I like, such as Rush, Dream Theater, Symphony X, Stream of Passion, and Porcupine Tree (etc). I know that someone, somewhere out there, just might stumble upon the links or the references, investigate further, and find something worth listening to, all without the help or hindrance of radio or television or other media.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Unsane
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 06/27/2011 - 11:09pm.
My SIL used to read everything Oprah read, and scour the NYT best seller list for books to read. What fun is that? No wonder Obama was elected, people are to lazy to take the time to find books and music that suits them, not the masses. Same way BO got in.
I know that who I read probably
Submitted by UpNorth on Tue, 06/28/2011 - 12:00am.
won't show up on Oprah's lists, W.E.B. Griffin, Randy Wayne White, Vince Flynn, Robert Tannenbaum, Tom Clancy, although he's getting awfully cliche'd lately.
And, there's not a single Hip-hop "music" station on my radio, or any of the "new" rock.
But I never said it was good
Submitted by shawn. on Mon, 06/27/2011 - 11:01pm.
I said he was sucessful. There is a difference. No matter how talented you are, if nobody buys your records its hard to claim your successful.
It depends on
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 06/27/2011 - 11:04pm.
your definition of success. There are many people who aren't commercially successful but contribute in a positive way to society.
I don't disagree
Submitted by shawn. on Mon, 06/27/2011 - 11:12pm.
.....however contributing in a positive to society does not pay the bills.
Shawn
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 06/27/2011 - 11:32pm.
But you just said it's hard to claim you're successful if you don't sell records, by which I assumed you meant make money. So are you disagreeing with that comment? I'm confused about your point here.
Okay rad
Submitted by shawn. on Mon, 06/27/2011 - 11:51pm.
Let's say Somebody is great chef. that person volunteers as a cook in soup kitchen on his days off. Donates to The Red Cross and is a little league baseball coach on the weekend The quality of the food is excellent in the restaurant.
He does not charge very much for his at the beggiining and started turning a profit. Then price of gas and corn go up. He needs to pay his bills but has mismanaged the money so he is forced to raise his prices. Customers are upset and don't come back and he is forced to close his business
Can the Chef claim to be as successful as the restaurant across the street that is always crowded or can he compare himself to successful chain like the Cheesecake factory?
No he cannot, because despite his talents and positive contributions to society he could not support himself in that business
Sad
Submitted by Unsane on Tue, 06/28/2011 - 7:47am.
So what you are saying is that, no matter what, you MUST appeal to the masses at all times
That's a sad way to live. Not to mention thoroughly un-creative.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
No I did not say that
Submitted by shawn. on Tue, 06/28/2011 - 8:38am.
I said one chef regardless of how talented he is cannot claim to be more sucessful than another if he does not have as many customers
Same analogy goes to a stock broker, if you don't make as much money for your clients as the one down the street you can't claim to be as sucessful
Creativity is a great thing, but if people do not buy your records, it does not do you much good
There is an old saying
Submitted by Boudin on Tue, 06/28/2011 - 9:03am.
"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder", also "success is not always measured by fortune or fame"
Sure Boudin
Submitted by shawn. on Tue, 06/28/2011 - 10:13am.
...... people that say Rachel Maddow is every bit as pretty and sucessful as Megyn Kelly are credible too.
Popularity trumps creativity
Submitted by Unsane on Tue, 06/28/2011 - 10:35am.
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart is regarded today as perhaps the greatest musical genius of all time. Yet, when he showed up in Paris in the late 1770s, they turned up their noses at him. Vienna, of all places, was not impressed with him after he made it big for a short period. The only major European city that fully embraced his music and did so consistently throughout his short life was Prague. Yet, today his genius is almost universally recognized.
You very clearly place being popular over being creative. There is lots of good stuff out there, but as Radical pointed out, there are a lot of lazy people out there (yourself included) waiting for your marching orders to buy what music "they" tell you to buy, what movies to go see, etc.
By the way, being creative has its own rewards. Dream Theater has sold 10 million records over the last 20 or so years. Doesn't seem like a lot, does it? Yet the guys in that band are far from starving. As their former drummer put it, "We are the biggest band you never heard of."
(Can't wait til July 5 when I and thousands of others contribute to the "Marcela Bovio needs a life-saving meal" fund!)
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
There is a difference between popularity and financial success
Submitted by shawn. on Tue, 06/28/2011 - 10:41am.
Unsane if you and I were both in the same profession and in my opinion I was more talented than you. Good for me, however if you made three times my salary. I would concede you are more sucessful. Good for you.
Sponge
Submitted by Unsane on Tue, 06/28/2011 - 11:39am.
Look, I like money as much as the next guy. But money is not the only measure of success, ESPECIALLY in the world of the arts.
Unless you are a pop-culture sponge, that is.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
shawn
Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 06/28/2011 - 2:56pm.
We all define success in our own way. If that chef's goal was to serve others and create great meals, he could justifiably consider himself a success. If his goal was to make a fortune, he was a failure.
Mother Teresa's goal was to serve God and the poor. She died penniless, but a complete success.
The point with musicians is that some want material and popular success, others want to create music they are proud of. Look at U2, they made no secret that their goal was to be the number one rock band in the world. Other bands eschew such a goal for the purity of what they do. The value of each of these goals is evaluated by us as onlookers.
It says a lot about us as individuals in what we value. Which band would you value more, the band trying to be most popular in the world, or the one trying to create the best music they possibly can?
The thing about these..."musicians"...
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 06/27/2011 - 10:56pm.
This world would be a better place with real musicians.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
So who are these "real"
Submitted by balboa on Mon, 06/27/2011 - 11:02pm.
So who are these "real" musicians?
Real musicians
Submitted by Unsane on Tue, 06/28/2011 - 7:45am.
If the links worked, I'd show you...but unfortunately every time I click on links, it doesn't work.
I CAN tell you Stream of Passion comes out with an album on 5 July. The album is called Darker Days. They aren't your typical metal band; they strive to create artwork. And their lead vocalist is as beautiful as her voice is powerful. But will it get any run in the United States whatsoever? Nah. They are TOO good and besides they do not "fit the demographic". So they will stupidly be ignored, awaiting discovery by those brave enough to wander off the beaten path...
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Here is a small list, go to
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Tue, 06/28/2011 - 8:49am.
Here is a small list, go to YouTube and bring up some of their work:
Porcupine Tree
Dream Theater
Ayreon
Blackfield
Joe Satriani
Allman Brothers
The Blasters
The Pogues
Flogging Molly
Eric Johnson
Liquid Tension Experiment
Sample some of their songs and tell us what you think.
I can see I am getting left behind
Submitted by Boudin on Tue, 06/28/2011 - 9:09am.
As I only recognize about 4 on your list. I have actually backed up, and started listening to all of the Blues and Jazz I missed as a kid.
Yes!
Submitted by Unsane on Tue, 06/28/2011 - 10:37am.
Where the hell is the "like" button on NB???
And why, oh why am I not surprised that you would place Porcupine Tree at the very top?
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Porcupine Tree... OK, now
Submitted by balboa on Tue, 06/28/2011 - 11:29am.
Porcupine Tree... OK, now you're just making stuff up. ;-)
I'll take a listen. Of course I know some of those, and would agree for sure that the Allman Brothers are solid musicians.
PT
Submitted by Unsane on Tue, 06/28/2011 - 11:42am.
Well, they did too (make stuff up that is). Porcupine Tree began as a completely fictional long-lost 1970s era band. When Steven Wilson saw his creation had the potential to be much greater than that, he recruited other band members and the REAL Porcupine Tree was born.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
LIKE
Submitted by Free Stinker on Tue, 06/28/2011 - 11:50am.
Indeed. A like button is long overdue.
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Scuba
Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 06/28/2011 - 2:58pm.
The Allman Brothers? With all those other bands? I love the diversity of your selection.
Rad, You should see the
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Tue, 06/28/2011 - 3:06pm.
Rad,
You should see the diversity on my Ipod. I would say a good 80% is by groups you have never heard of along with the classics like Pink Floyd, Zeppelin, Genesis, ELP, Procul Harem, Miles Davis, Sam Cooke and a myriad of others.
Scoobs, here's one for you
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 06/28/2011 - 3:11pm.
It's mislabelled as Clapton.
Mason Williams ~ Classical Gas.
All acoustic. Awesome.
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HEAR HEAR!!!! That statement
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Tue, 06/28/2011 - 8:43am.
HEAR HEAR!!!!
That statement is soooooooo true.