Patti Stanger, star of BRAVO’s “Millionaire Matchmaker,” shared her tips for finding Mr. Right on Wednesday’s CBS “Early Show.” The author and relationship expert surprisingly supports abstinence, telling women, “no sexy…no spreading.” Stanger’s advice is a welcome change from CBS’ usual take on sexual abstinence.
Author of Become Your Own Matchmaker, Stanger gives women “eight simple steps for attracting your mate” and among those she includes abstaining from sexual activity. She told host Maggie Rodriguez that women should abstain until Mr. Right gives them an “exclusive, monogamous, committed relationship that is said in the sober light of day…” She says this is important because women “bond through sex,” and men “can sleep with women and not bond.”
As dating advice, the “Early Show” gave abstinence a fair hearing. When the subject is teens, however, CBS is a lot less open-minded.
The Culture & Media Institute pointed out that in March 2008, CBS hosted TV actress Kate Walsh and shamelessly gave her an opportunity to tear down abstinence-only education. On January 8, CBS correspondent Bianca Soloranzo hinted that abstinence isn’t working, saying “experts fear we've been lulled into a false sense of security. And have stopped pouring resources into prevention." Early last year CBS’ “Evening News” hyped the Midwest Teen Sex Show, an explicit, in-your-face podcast on sexuality, as a better alternative to abstinence programs.
The Early Show isn’t shy about sex on its regular broadcasts. On December 11, 2008, the morning cast displayed photos of a naked Jennifer Aniston on the cover of GQ magazine, making no apologies for sending the soft-core pornography into viewers’ homes.
So, according to CBS, women on the prowl for a husband should consider avoiding sexual activity. But abstaining isn’t an option for teen girls.
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Wed, 01/14/2009 - 17:41 ET by NorthCoasterIf you abstain from starting sexual relations, you prevent the other issues related to children raising children etc., especially young children with no income or maturity.
It's just like smoking or drinking, once you start, it's next to impossible to stop, especially if the satisfaction of the act reduces the negative feelings of life. It's better to abstain until you can financially and emotionally support the results of the activity.
Then there are the STDs related to having sex with who knows who. Avoid the sex and you avoid the need for HPV vaccination ............ You also allow the oparticipants to mature to a point where they can tell when a person is lying to them just to get sex.
abstain until you can
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 17:52 ET by Rukus"abstain until you can"
Yeah, I tried that and failed! Then I learned!!!
We can teach out kids and teach our kids and teach our kids...
Don't aways works. I learned, and I taught my kids well!
No unexpected, so far, they are great kids now. Parenting? Go figure!!
My kids have been good so far...Because we taught them well!
Good point North, I agree!!
Mine have done good so far, one is married, hoping for grand kids...
Just saying, I beleive in kids not having sex before they are married.
Gary
"Mom's ROCK!!!" -Me
I'm surprised that CBS even
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 17:45 ET by bigtimerI'm surprised that CBS even had this much of a segment on this morning.
I'm shocked...shocked I tell ya'.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Whether her advice is wise
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 18:01 ET by Chris NormanWhether her advice is wise or not, Pat Stanger, "Millionaire Matchmaker", and - for that matter - the whole line up on BRAVO - is proof to me that the Apocalypse is at hand.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
I once watched her show for
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 18:58 ET by PeskyDaneI once watched her show for about 10 minutes, and I can honestly say I that I was taken aback at just how offensive I found it to be. Given the fact that I am not a libtard, that's saying something.
Pesky, I'm waiting for
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 19:19 ET by Chris NormanPesky,
I'm waiting for Discovery Health to unveil plans for the show, "Diseases of Good-looking Single Millionaires".
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
You're killin' me... :-)
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 19:21 ET by PeskyDaneYou're killin' me...
:-)
Okay,How about "Top
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 19:25 ET by Chris NormanOkay,
How about "Top Doctor" where a bunch of young, good looking medical students perform diagnoses and surgeries and get judged by a panel of over-the-hill doctors who supply bitchy comments like, "Your sutures look like they were done by a blind palsy victim."...
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Top Chef is a fun show.
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 19:06 ET by balboaTop Chef is a fun show.
bal,I've given up on the
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 19:21 ET by Chris Normanbal,
I've given up on the "fight for the top _____" shows - on any network. Their producers all seem to encourage nastiness and back biting among the competitors and most of the judges are too bitchy for words - leaving the viewer to conclude they're bitter about up and coming younger talent. I knew the trend had been really overdone when I saw that some network - maybe Lifetime(?) - was airing a series about competing makeup artists (?!). Shows like this tend to be trend killers.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
I hear ya', CN. That's
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 20:51 ET by balboaI hear ya', CN. That's actually why I like Top Chef, because the drama is at a minimum. The judges are actually helpful (what a concept), and there's not too much silliness.
Figures...
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 18:03 ET by NavyBuckeyeI just recently discharged and moved to Connecticut. You talk about a state that supports and rewards teenage pregnancy.
Here if you are a teenage girl and your parents liberate you from thier care (or they are poor) you recieve a free life. Yep a free life. If you are a teenage girl and have a baby the state pays for:
Her apartment, her college (including your books), and they give her money for food.
And the worst part, if she graduates college and gets a job, she doens't even have to pay me back. Yep I said me, because I and a million other people are paying for this girls life. Not her parents...but me. I have my own kids to care for let alone the thousands of girls who either don't understand the word abstinence means, Jimmy Hat usage, or just the word no.
Or maybe they are smart. Shoot I wish I was a teenage girl and I could get pregnant here. Everything would be so rewarding.
What crap.
“Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter” - Thomas Jefferson
CT has about 2 million
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 21:02 ET by JasonCCT has about 2 million taxpaying citizens. What do you suppose this hypothetical pregnant girl gets? I'll go liberal and say $30,000/year. So...she personally owes you about a penny.
Keep the interest running, it'll hit a nickel one of these days.
Jason
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 21:11 ET by shawn228I will have to disagree with you here, regardless of how much it cost the government, it should be 0. It should not be governments role to pay for her schooling and room and board, that person has to live with the consequences.
He had my vote
Shawn
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 21:26 ET by choselife3xCareful, Jason will think you're a teenage motherophobe.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
I appreciate the witty
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 23:14 ET by JasonCI appreciate the witty attempt at a play on words, but that doesn't even make sense given that I'm claiming the hypothetical mother isn't really THAT much of a drain on society as what's-his-name is claiming. Besides, I haven't called teenage mother aberrant or murderous, so I'd still be far lower on the phobic-meter than some people I can think of.
And Shawn, I was more or less being facetious, playing off the way that so many economic conservatives act as though taxpaying for dubious causes is some sort of personal affront, despite the fact that their personal contribution to such things usually amounts to fractions of pennies. For instance, their usual bitching about the endowment for the arts...do you realize how incredibly little any given individual actually contributes? It's a joke, my friend.
phobic-meter
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 23:19 ET by choselife3xWatch out everyone! JasonC has a phobic-meter! If you state that you think something is morally reprehensible that means you are AFRAID.
I think stealing is wrong, therefore I must be afraid of people who habitually steal...GASP.....I'm a KLEPTOPHOBE!!!!
I'm so glad Jason is around to tell us all how afraid we are.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
Good one, Chose. Of
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 23:26 ET by JasonCGood one, Chose. Of course, you also just accused ME of being phobic of a demographic that I had just defended against a sardonic tax-resentment argument; an accusation which makes basically no sense. So I'm not entirely sure you even know what the term means. Suffice to say, it does not simply mean "fear". Haven't you seen my latest post on the Coulter thread, Miss "Gays-Are-De-Facto-Murderers"? I gave you the Webster's definition and everything.
'Miss-Gays-Are-De-Facto-Murderers'
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 23:48 ET by choselife3xCatchy. May have to change my screen name.
Take a reading comprehension class. I said homosexuals were responsible for the AIDS virus. The first man to be diagnosed with it was a homosexual man. It spread through the homosexual community. It had it's origin there. The original carriers of the disease who continued to screw around when they knew they were infected ARE culpable.
To take that statement and twist it around like ALL homosexuals past and present, are responsible for the virus is ALMOST as stupid as reading 'a man and woman are required by nature to produce offspring' as saying that there is something unnatural about an infertile heterosexual couple.
(do you read your inane drivel before you post it?)
Homosexuality IS an aberration of nature. Simple biology.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
Hey there girlie, didja miss me?
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 23:52 ET by sherylsimsWhat did you guys do? Jump over here from the other thread? And it was so quiet and peaceful over here too... ;o)
Good evening sheryl
Thu, 01/15/2009 - 00:02 ET by cocodrieI'm in a good mood tonight. Why only one copy? wHere are the other 31?
Jesus loves You
I got a new computer. I
Thu, 01/15/2009 - 00:05 ET by sherylsimsI got a new computer. I guess I will just have to figure out another way to get attention here. The old one got drunk and died so we sent it to rehab, but in the meantime hubby got me a loaner out of his office-containing-way-too-many-toys. This time I was glad that he happened to have an "extra" so I could get back to the really IMPORTANT things in life (NB)
Sheryl
Thu, 01/15/2009 - 00:10 ET by choselife3xI was ready to e-mail you. Now you show up when I'm about to turn in! Did the baby arrive all safe and sound?
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
clx
Thu, 01/15/2009 - 00:16 ET by sherylsimsNo baby! It was false labor, and I just saw her tonight and she is STILL having contractions and is super uncomfortable and now she is 4 cm dialated and 80% effaced... It is her first though, so I guess that isn't all that uncommon. But frustrating for her. (Good thing I didn't go over there the other night to deliver it for her, eh?)
Boy is she going to be tired
Thu, 01/15/2009 - 00:37 ET by choselife3xBy the time things start in earnest. I hope she is able to get some good sleep. She won't make it unassisted if she isn't rested enough.
Speaking of, I need to turn in myself. I'm up way too late navel-gazing about my newly discovered homophobia. Don't know how I'll be able to sleep through all the shame and guil.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
cl3x
Thu, 01/15/2009 - 00:55 ET by sherylsimsYep. I was thinking that too. I hope she goes in soon. Her doctor said he would strip her membrane if she doesn't have the baby by Monday. She will though. Almost impossible to stop it at some point, eh? Now get some sleep.
Yeah I noticed
Thu, 01/15/2009 - 00:14 ET by cocodrieYeah I noticed the script is so nice and crisp, smells good too. Nothing like that new computer smell.
I think you'll probably hold the multi-posting record longer than Babe Ruth held his home run record.
Jesus Loves You.
Did I miss you?!!
Thu, 01/15/2009 - 00:07 ET by choselife3xI was about to let JasonC and balboa out of their kennel and have 'em sniff yer modem!
That sounds so dirty I almost erased it! Just meant search dogs on the scent...
Hey coco! JasonC outed me tonight, I'm a homophobe! Gasp. My homosexual friends are gonna be so surprised. Richard might not give me flowers anymore, and Jesse will stop inviting me to his cookouts..... Great, my social life will spiral downwards rapidly. I'll just have to spend more time here with you guys....and JasonC. The conservaphobe.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
cl3x
Thu, 01/15/2009 - 00:13 ET by sherylsimsI can't remember if I have ever had my modem sniffed, but it DOES sound kindof dirty.
Here is how I am on the homosexual thing... I don't want to know what ANYONE is doing in private, homo or hetero. I don't think it is right, but I also don't think it is my business to change anyone. That isn't phobia, it is apathy I guess. So I am homopathetic, hows that?
I'm not gonna
Thu, 01/15/2009 - 00:20 ET by cocodrieI'm not gonns comment on modem sniffing for all the tea in China. I got in enough trouble on the porn site.
Jesus Loves You.
Very wise coco... I am
Thu, 01/15/2009 - 00:31 ET by sherylsimsVery wise coco... I am not sure what it takes to get banned, but I would probably go into withdrawal if I did... so the modem shall remain un-sniffed.
Sounds cool to me. JasonC is
Thu, 01/15/2009 - 00:31 ET by choselife3xSounds cool to me. JasonC is the one with the 'phobic-meter'.
I couldn't care less what consenting adults do to each other as long as they don't drag it out into public and try to force everyone else to legitimise it.
It's wrong and I'm not going to pretend otherwise.
Oops, that's not politically correct! Good thing I'm on a conservative website, or some moron might call me a 'homophobe'.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
Good evening chose
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 23:51 ET by cocodrieFinally got back home and what do I find? Jason spinning the facts again. It wouldn't be bad if it was only that one girl but there's millions of 'em.
Don't mind Jason, one day he'll spin himself so deep the chinese will have to deal with him.
Jesus Loves You
It's about principles Jason,
Thu, 01/15/2009 - 00:21 ET by RESTLESS 1The amount of money is not the issue, (although it keeps adding up, read the post, it isn't just about paying for ONE girl), it is the fact that govt. keeps rewarding irresponsible behavior. It doesn't matter if the cost per is one cent or one million dollars. The fact that we are forced to pay for others bullshit decisions are an affront to our principles.
Typical liberal to make it about money though. I guess your side just doesn't principles.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
It's about principles Jason,
Thu, 01/15/2009 - 00:22 ET by RESTLESS 1The amount of money is not the issue, (although it keeps adding up, read the post, it isn't just about paying for ONE girl), it is the fact that govt. keeps rewarding irresponsible behavior. It doesn't matter if the cost per is one cent or one million dollars. The fact that we are forced to pay for others bullshit decisions are an affront to our principles.
Typical liberal to make it about money though. I guess your side just doesn't understand principles.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
I understand, Restless, I
Thu, 01/15/2009 - 08:04 ET by JasonCI understand, Restless, I was just putting things in perspective.
Yes, let's put things into
Thu, 01/15/2009 - 10:28 ET by Roger the ShrubberYes, let's put things into perspective.
Let's assume, based on your numbers, the cost to the state is a mere $30,000 per pregnant teen.
The teen birth rate in CT is 24 per 1,000. There are about 150,000 girls betwen 14 and 18 in CT. That means about 3,600 teen prenancies per year. At $30,000, that totals a measly $108,000,000 if every teen mom-to-be takes advantage of this government handout.
Chump change, indeed.
Good evening Shawn
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 23:55 ET by cocodrie100% correct
Jesus Loves You
Oh
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 21:20 ET by Roger the ShrubberI'll go liberal...
Now THAT's a shocker.
Pesky Lib....
Thu, 01/15/2009 - 11:31 ET by NavyBuckeyeYou missed the entire point.
I shouldnt have to pay a penny. And teen pregnancy shouldn't be rewarded.
Plus if you want to take the lib view: what do the fathers get? I mean its not fair that this poor girl gets to have a life handed to her. The teen father gets zip. Unless you count the fact he now will also be giving this girl free money.
“Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter” - Thomas Jefferson
SCREENCAP
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 18:35 ET by the strugglerIs that Joey Ramone?
The media and liberals say
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 18:42 ET by ForeverOnTheRightThe media and liberals say that abstinence message doesn't work. Well if they didn't sabotage the message about abstinence to impressionable teen age and pre-teen age minds, it would work. How often do they show people having sex on TV and movies without any negative consequences, and it’s shown as “normal activity”? There are consequences to having sex, if not pregnancy, STDs. If they sent out the message that becoming pregnant outside of marriage was wrong and a lot more trouble than they think, then just maybe teenagers would not experiment and engage in sex. DUH! It’s not a given that a teenager will have sex, I didn’t as a teenager. When I was a teenager sex on the big and small screen we not there, you’d have to sneak into a X rated movie to see sex on the screen, now that’s changed. I blame the medias lust for money for the rise in teenage pregnancy. I am sure they will pass the buck to the parents, but gee then they turn around and sabotage even what the parents may be teaching them. They are even forcing parents to have to actively teach that sex outside of marriage is wrong and trouble.
abstinence works!
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 19:08 ET by UndercoverConservativeI didn't 'score" till I was 25, finished with schooling and able to support a family....
of course it could be I was a terribly shy nerd, from a less than affluent family in an area where most people made 2 or 3 times what mine did annually. having to work full time and school full time to get my degree didn't do much for the ol' social life either.
Course after that, I found that the whole "women bond thru sex" is complete utter BS. Plenty of women in the dating pool I'd stepped into, sex was a means to an end, or a method of escape, or even a scorecard. I'd believed the BS beforehand, but my ex wife taught me different. I also learned that women can easily lie and say "I love you" as much or more so than men.
I "blame" all this on my mother (she finds it amusing of course), and my grandmother: hard working, honest, loyal wives who sacrificed to raise us, did the "boring" chores, stood by their husbands and loved their families. I thought all women were like them...reality sure demonstrated how rather uncommon that is anymore.
"to call an illegal immigrant an "undocumented alien" is the same as calling a streetcorner drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist".
"You spend your money anyway you want and respect other's rights to do the same"
Wow, UC
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 19:15 ET by choselife3xHope you've got a happy ending to all that.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
Reminds Me
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 20:47 ET by deerjerkydaveI saw a good bumper sticker today on this subject. It said, "Smile! Your mother chose life!"
djd.... Now that
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 20:57 ET by bigtimerdjd....
Now that does really say it all. ;-)
"You've gone beyond the law"... Sen. Kerry~ Head of Foreign Relations Committee to Hillary at Sec.of State confirmation hearings~1-13-09
deerjerkydave
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 20:59 ET by choselife3xThey musta stole it from me.....;-)
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
Abstaining doesn't work?? I
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 20:05 ET by TN MomAbstaining doesn't work?? I am confused. If you do NOT have sex you CANNOT get pregnant!
Reading Ann Coulter's new book, Guilty, she says 'our schools are awash with condoms' yet single mothers are at an all-time high.
Abstaining doesn't work?? Tell that to the untold millions who attend AA.
It Worked For Me
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 20:56 ET by deerjerkydaveAbstinence education worked for me. Except it was from my parents and not the schools here in California. The schools here in California taught me about "safe sex." That a condom or birth control would provide "safe sex." What they didn't tell me or didn't emphasize is that there are plenty of STDs that are transmitted even when a condom is used. And today as many as 25% of women have an STD in America according to the CDC. The HPV virus being a major culprit which targets women and causes cervical cancer.
I guess a society awash in STDs is the price we must pay to have an enlightened liberal generation.
No one is saying abstinence does not work
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 20:51 ET by shawn228There is no doubt that abstinence is the best choice, but if a teen decides to not listen to their parents "that never happens right?" I do not find anything wrong with teaching about condoms and birth control.
If you don't have sex, you cannot get pregnant or a sexually tranmitted disease.....fair enough, just like if you don't drive, you will not get into a accident or speeding ticket.
If you warn your children to put on their seatbelt does not mean that they are going to be in accident, you are just trying to encourage them be safe.
I also did not find the pics of Jennifer Aniston soft porn, I thought she looked great.
He had my vote
Abstinance works every time
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 21:02 ET by Free StinkerAbstinance works every time it is tried. ;-)
You right free it is
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 21:08 ET by shawn228Unfortunately we cannot be with our kids 24/7. I would hate the thought of my kid having sex in her teens when the time comes, but I would hope if she make that mistake which many young kids do, she will have the common sense to use a condom.
I will take 98 percent chance of not getting a disease or pregnancy over 0 anyday.
Again your right abstinence works every time, but you are not the one that controls what your children do, you can teach them all the right things, but it is no guarantee they will do the right thing.
He had my vot/e
→ Bingo Shawn
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 21:42 ET by Cool ArrowYou just stepped into the Ann Coulter scenario.
If the father is present in the home, the child is less likely to engage in risky behavior.
Less likely Cool Arrow
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 21:48 ET by shawn228..but certainly no guarantee.
He had my vote
No guarantee
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 22:01 ET by choselife3xNothing's certain but death and taxes.
Just so you know, as long as your little girl knows she's the apple of your eye, she won't be near as vulnerable to jerks who try to manipulate girls into bed. She'll be measuring those guys against her Daddy, and they'll fall short. ;-)
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
Thx Choselife3x :-)
Thu, 01/15/2009 - 00:04 ET by shawn228I'm not sure if this is on topic or not, but I kept my promise and watched the video you ask me to in its entirety.
I believe there are many far left whack jobs out there, but I would say at least half of libs have the common sense to know Sadamm Hussein is the bad guy and not George Washington.
They know he was a horrible dictator. Yes some libs are very wacky people, but both parties have people they are ashamed of right? I have seen my fair share of conservative wack jobs on NB, who shall remain nameless ;-)
He had my vote
Conservative whack job
Thu, 01/15/2009 - 00:20 ET by choselife3xUh oh. Now SHAWN outed me. What's a girl to do.....;-)
Let me know when you've got some links for me. I'm good for five. :)
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
Shawn
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 23:32 ET by sherylsimsWhile I am not with my kids 24/7, I can't think of any time while they were living at home that they were unsupervised. They went to friends' homes, but more often their friends came here, and they socialized in groups (like the youth group of the church and Boy Scouts, etc.) and there wasn't even a time when they snuck around. When our son was 18 and went into the Army he had already developed the morals that kept him from being sexually active until marriage, and our daughter waited until she was almost done with college to even DATE. Both of them are very well-adjusted parents now and I plan to have the same policy for the two who are still living at home. Nobody said it was easy, but it isn't impossible to keep track of your kids and follow up on the whole "abstinance" thing.
sheryl
Thu, 01/15/2009 - 00:18 ET by shawn228Sounds like you did a great job as a parent. This is no way a cheap shot against Sarah Palin, but i am sure she taught her daughter good morals as well.
I do not blame Sarah Palin, because even though she wanted to protect her daughter, she cannot be there all the time. On the other hand If Bristol used protection this might not have happened.
Is it possible she used protection and it failed?. Yes it is, but 97 percent unlikely.
He had my vote
Shawn,
Thu, 01/15/2009 - 00:26 ET by sherylsimsI may be wrong, but I think that usually when kids have sex it is unplanned. It is just a matter of getting carried away with the moment. Of course it doesn't help that almost ALL the cultural 'advice' given to kids is that they will probably do it... so be prepared. I tried to teach my kids to avoid situations where they would be tempted to do it, and that seemed to work for them.
I don't want to be judgemental toward parents whose kids did fool around. There are so many factors, and bad/good parenting is only one.
"I think that usually when kids have sex it is unplanned."
Thu, 01/15/2009 - 00:31 ET by shawn228"I think that usually when kids have sex it is unplanned."
Agreed, that is why a condom in your purse or wallet is a good idea if this unplanned situation came up.
He had my vote
'there is no try there is
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 21:09 ET by botg'there is no try there is only not do'
----------------------------------------yoda-sorta
Bruce
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 21:12 ET by shawn228I believe your having delusions of grandeur
Han Solo...sorta
He had my vote
shawn
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 21:16 ET by botg"dammit shawn it's that green blood of yours"
-----------------------------Dr McCoy sorta
bruce
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 21:34 ET by shawn228"Well double dumb ass on you"
Captain Kirk sorta
He had my vote
shawn
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 21:42 ET by botgillogical
--------------spock
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts
Bruce
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 21:47 ET by shawn228"I suppose you're about to remind me that logic alone dictates your actions?"
Captain Kirk
He had my vote
shawn
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 21:57 ET by botgand now for something completely different
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts
Bruce
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 23:14 ET by shawn228back in my high school days, when I really enjoyed.....ummm my herbal suppements, this was one of my favorite scenes
He had my vote
Comprehensive Education Fine
Wed, 01/14/2009 - 21:04 ET by deerjerkydaveI have no problem with a good comprehensive sex ed which stresses abstinence, gives all the reasons not to have sex until marriage (and there are plenty of strong reasons to wait), and then say that if you're going to be stupid and have sex you should use protection.
But I've argued enough with libs and read enough articles to recognize that there are plenty of individuals and organized forces out there who do not want abstinence taught at all. Or they want to reverse the emphasis such that abstinence is only an afterthought.