Calm Morning Joe? Newsweek Boss Tina Brown Says GOP Are 'Suicide Bombers'
Newsweek's Tina Brown compared congressional Republicans to suicide bombers on Wednesday's Morning Joe after lamenting their refusal to agree to the tax hikes demanded by Democrats. "I think they’re the suicide bombers in all of this," said Brown. Will Tina Brown be banned indefinitely from Morning Joe? Sounds harsher than a crotch reference.
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Brown's comparison came after Willlie Geist said Pat Buchanan's "boys are holding the hostage." Buchanan had insisted that "What they’re saying is we don’t believe in tax increases. We don’t think they’ll work. They’re against our principles. They’re against our commitments. They’re off the table, Mr. President. Now be an adult and realize you’re not getting tax increases." Brown, however, insisted that it was up to Republicans to make compromises. "If the President has accommodated them, they should be accommodating him" said Brown.
The only statement anywhere near as strange as Brown's came from columnist Mike Barnicle, who insisted a tax hike is not a tax hike when you're repealing a Republican tax cut.
"The country is on the verge of being ungovernable because these people think in two year increments, and clearly never, not one of them has ever gone into a store during a sale day saying 'one day only, sneakers $19.95 instead of $29.95.' They say 'okay, going to buy the $19.95 price.' When they go back up to $29.95, instead of articulating that it's the regular price, they say "oh, that's an increase." No, it's not an increase. You know, if you - if you revert back to the to prior - before the Bush tax cuts, if you bring that back, that's not a tax increase. It's just not, but they claim it is."
Barnicle appears to think that the "real" tax rate is the magical figure agreed upon by policy wonks as a baseline. Repealing the Bush tax cut would cause Americans to pay more in taxes, but doesn't count as a tax increase in Barnicle's book because the same rate was lower before those cuts.
A transcript of the conversation, which aired at 7:04 am on Wednesday's Morning Joe, follows.
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MORNING JOE
07/06/2011
7:04 am EDT
BUCHANAN: The situation is that the President of the United States can get an increase in the debt ceiling and will get one from the Republican House. And he will get cuts in spending from the Republican House. What they’re saying is we don’t believe in tax increases. We don’t think they’ll work. They’re against our principles. They’re against our commitments. They’re off the table, Mr. President. Now be an adult and realize you’re not getting tax increases.
BRZEZINKSKI: I think that’s my answer.
BUCHANAN: You’re getting spending cuts and you’re getting your debt ceiling. And you’re going to have to veto the increase in your debt ceiling and shut down the government yourself.
BROWN: But Pat, what’s accommodating about that? I mean, if the president has accommodated them, they should be accommodating him. I mean –
BUCHANAN: They’re accommodating him on the spending cuts. They’re going to go – I’m sure Obama has got in there spending cuts that Republicans like – maybe in defense, maybe in things like that. They’ll go along with spending cuts, compromise on that. But they say this is the wrong way to go. We don’t believe in it. We’ve committed against it. We can’t do it. Mr. President, you’re asking us to break our word and do something we think is not going to work and we’re not going to do it, sir.
BROWN: I think frankly the president would have no credibility if he did not demand some –
BUCHANAN: He’s going to demand it, but he’s not going to get it.
BRZEZINSKI: How is that — so I think the, what was the answer to my question that who the hostage take is, Willie?
GEIST: Sounds like Pat’s boys. Pat’s boys are holding the hostage.
BROWN: I think they’re the suicide bombers in all of this.
BRZEZINSKI: Oh my.
BUCHANAN: I think they’re standing on principle. They’re doing what they believe is right.
BARNICLE: They are just not serious people on both sides. The country is on the verge of being ungovernable because these people think in two year increments, and clearly never, not one of them has ever gone into a store during a sale day saying "one day only, sneakers $19.95 instead of $29.95." They say "okay, going to buy the $19.95 price." When they go back up to $29.95, instead of articulating that it's the regular price, they say "oh, that's an increase." No, it's not an increase. You know, if you - if you revert back to the to prior - before the Bush tax cuts, if you bring that back, that's not a tax increase. It's just not, but they claim it is.
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Ignorance is bliss
Submitted by Herbster on Wed, 07/06/2011 - 4:14pm.
Tina (The harridan) Brown and Mike (The plagirist) Barnicle.....twio intellects for the ages. Their statements here are not only laughable, but inarticulate. Question: When is a tax hike not a tax hike? Answer: When it's a tax hike. Simple democratic logic.
The Morning Joe show has become The Morning Joke Show. No wonder Fox and Friends eats their lunch.....and breakfast.
Tax increases? What taxes?
Submitted by Galvanic on Wed, 07/06/2011 - 7:43pm.
Barnicle forgot to use the old Clintonese euphemism for tax: investment. Obama wants more investments.
Wasn't Newsweek recently
Submitted by deerjerkydave on Wed, 07/06/2011 - 4:25pm.
Wasn't Newsweek recently purchased for one dollar? I guess you get what you pay for.
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"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the Federal Government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State Governments are numerous and indefinite. -James MadisonDidn't she do the tasteless Diana at 50 cover for
Submitted by Lipton on Wed, 07/06/2011 - 5:21pm.
Newsweek?
Put her out of her misery!
Submitted by Zombie Brains on Wed, 07/06/2011 - 4:49pm.
Newsweek that is, not Brown. Although...
The recent events surrounding the boss of Newsweek are becoming increasingly disturbing. First the twisted explanation for the Princess Diana cover, and now a suicide bomber accusation applied to congressional republicans. For someone trying to sell a national magazine alienating half the country is a poor business decision. I think had she called them the Hitler Youth it would have been less offensive.
Umm, "Mr. Brain", do not try to gratuitously worm your way
Submitted by SickofLibs on Wed, 07/06/2011 - 9:55pm.
back in now with an obviously condescending post after your despicable performance here earlier today. We are not thrown off by this ploy.
My advice to you would be lay low and take the next week off, along with that tapeworm you picked up today.
Mr. of Libs
Submitted by Zombie Brains on Thu, 07/07/2011 - 10:25am.
My liberal programming has been hacked by a mischievous force. I have fallen out of lockstep with the rules of the party, left with only my own opinions on any number of matters. This wasn't a condescending post. Surprising as that may be, assholes who cheat on their wives deserve no second chances. I'm siding with God on this one.
Two questions for Barnicle
Submitted by jdlybrand on Wed, 07/06/2011 - 4:53pm.
1. If they get rid of the 'Bush' tax cuts, will I pay more taxes?
2. If I pay more taxes, is that a tax increase?
"What a revoltin' development this is!"
Chester Riley
So we could go back to before
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Wed, 07/06/2011 - 5:04pm.
So we could go back to before there were taxes?
That wouldn't hurt my feelings in the least
Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 07/06/2011 - 8:32pm.
This country made it through it's first 150 years of history just fine without a federal income tax.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Ship this Tina Brown back to
Submitted by ForeverOnTheRight on Wed, 07/06/2011 - 5:00pm.
Ship this Tina Brown back to Britain, she has gotten out into the midday sun and has gone crazy. (Mad dogs and englishmen go out in the midday sun"-Noel Coward). Too bad you can't suspend or fire a boss for this name calling conservatives "suicide bombers".
These are now the....
Submitted by bigdaddy on Wed, 07/06/2011 - 5:04pm.
..."Obama extended tax rates" that they want to change.
Don't you
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Wed, 07/06/2011 - 5:35pm.
just love the civil dialog? When you don't have an argument, just toss your feces and hope it sticks, that's all they've got.
You see, when you're an intellectual, your command of the language and study of works of the great philosophers is brought to bear as you express your views with your learned world perspective and wisdom, NOT! Intellectuals, my a&*!
tina brown
Submitted by sawing batta on Wed, 07/06/2011 - 6:28pm.
ah, "civility"
....where is DWS? Obama? Heck, John King (who ran a special apology bc a guest used the term "crosshairs").
do these fools know people are laughing AT them?
Given the history of what tax hikes do to failing economies...
Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 07/06/2011 - 8:28pm.
...I consider anyone who supports increasing them as being someone who wishes for the ultimate collapse of our economy, and the destruction of our way of life.
There is no other way to view them, other than they are too stoopid to breath.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Barny says:
Submitted by Jerry Mack on Wed, 07/06/2011 - 9:42pm.
BARNICLE: They are just not serious people on both sides.
Translation: If you do not do exactly as the Messiah says then you are a twit!
Pat Buchanan was wonderful this am
Submitted by Texndoc on Wed, 07/06/2011 - 10:05pm.
I have never seen him so animated and "in your face". He really had Barnacle, Mika, and this idiot Tina Brown really sputtering! It was glorious.
Pat Buchanan was wonderful this am
Submitted by Texndoc on Wed, 07/06/2011 - 10:05pm.
I have never seen him so animated and "in your face". He really had Barnacle, Mika, and this idiot Tina Brown really sputtering! It was glorious.
Tina Bown, That almost sounds like "Tiny Brain"! Why...
Submitted by jawebster1 on Thu, 07/07/2011 - 3:05am.
is it that Conservatives get blamed for this sort of language but it is almost always the Liberals who engage in it. I guess that is the power of the Liberal press. They can literally make up down and down up. And that explains why Obama receives praise from some quarters for the fine job he is doing on the economy. (Excuse me while I laugh or cry...I don't know which.)
All this coming from...
Submitted by Orpheus75 on Thu, 07/07/2011 - 10:20am.
the party that REFUSED to pass any budget while they had a super majority - because they were AFRAID to. Now that they're not in charge of the House, whine like the babies they keep proving they are! I am sick to death of them.
Pat held his own and clearly
Submitted by amyshulk on Thu, 07/07/2011 - 1:14pm.
Pat held his own and clearly articulated the Tea party position, while Barnicle was his usual clueless self
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