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Ann Coulter Educates The View's Joy Behar on Reagan Tax Cuts

By Eric Ames | June 08, 2011 | 17:27

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Author Ann Coulter sparred with Joy Behar on Reaganomics on Wednesday's episode of The View.  "How are you going to solve it if you don't have any revenue coming in?" asked Joy Behar of the conservative commentator, who is currently promoting her latest book, Demonic.  "When Reagan cut taxes, each year, as the taxes went down, revenue to the treasury went up"  Coulter responded.

As The View's most ardent leftist, Behar went on to try to blame bad loans and the housing crisis on Republicans.  Coulter merely rebutted with the facts.  "You cannot blame the Republicans on that" said Coulter.  "The big banks then bundled them to the mortgage-backed securities, they got spread out into everyone's portfolio. So it was like a poison in the economy."

(video after the break)

Coulter also deflected blows delivered by Whoopi Goldberg, who trolled out the classic trope of the Clinton surpluses being annihilated by the Bush tax cuts.  "Where did that money go?  What happens?  What's happening?" the comedian asked. "Social security, Medicare, Medicaid, paying congressional salaries" Coulter shot back.  

The View's audience was audibly irritated by Coulter's suggestion that entitlements were part of the problem.  "I'd even go beyond blaming the politicians. I mean, it is the people. It's very hard to take their treats away. Once you start giving them the treats to tell them we're going to take them away is very hard."  Elisabeth Hasselbeck, who did not intervene in this discussion, tried to maneuver the conversation in the direction of Coulter's new book, but was cut off by Behar, who apparently took offense at Coulter's characterization of government entitlements.  "A lot of is it is not treats. A lot of it is necessities, let's not get on that track.   It's not treats for some people, Ann." Coulter rebutted by pointing out one of the most obvious flaws with the entitlement system.  "Ok, but how about treats being Social Security going to Donald Trump, because that's the way the system is set up right now?

Wednesday's encounter on The View provides more evidence, if any were needed, that intelligent commentary is best left to those who have some idea of what they are talking about.  Suffice it to say that the population of ABC's morning gaggle of giggles does not meet this apparently insurmountably high bar.

A transcript of the exchange, which aired at 11:26 am on the June 8 edition of The View, follows below:

JOY BEHAR: I want to know what you think a Republican would do that the Democrats can't do?

ANN COULTER: Well, I don't want to sound too wonky, but it would be-. Peter Ferrara keeps writing about -    

BEHAR: Who is he?

COULTER: -he's just a brilliant writer, economist, I think he's with CATO. And he keeps writing: "okay, this is what Reagan did to turn the Carter economy around, you know, cut regulation, cut taxes, this, that."  He says Obama looks like he studied what Reagan did and did exactly the opposite, and when I came on your show when you were sitting in for Larry King it was about a month into the Obama administration and I believe I was pessimistic about him turning the economy around because he's doing all of the things, micro managing from the top, big government, raise taxes.

BEHAR: But he hasn't been able to raise the taxes, the taxes are still in place.

COULTER: The debt's going up. Taxes are going to have to go up at some point.

BEHAR: You heard that, you heard that. That's a Republican saying that.

COULTER: Well, because the debt's going up because you're spending.

BEHAR: Well how are you going to solve it if you don't have any revenue coming in?  You've got to do something.

COULTER: Well what- well what this is, and this is counterintuitive, but you must trust me on this, it's in every Thomas Sowell book ever written. When Reagan cut taxes, each year, as the taxes went down, revenue to the treasury went up. When people say, which is disingenuous and sort of a sleight of hand, is, "yes, but the deficit grew." That's because for each additional dollar he brought in, congress would spend three more dollars. I mean, you can't overcome that, but more revenue came into the treasury the more you cut because people-

WHOOPI GOLDBERG: Then how do you explain what happened once Bush got in? Because we had money when, when Clinton left. So what has happened?  I know you have,I know you have an idea.

COULTER: It was, and this is so going to drive your viewers away, but I mean we know
    
GOLDBERG: Believe me. You can't drive them away. A lot of stuff will drive them away, but not you. Trust us.
    
COULTER: We do know it came from - thank you - we do know it came from the housing market crash, and you had the government - Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, HUD, pushing these politically correct,  suicidal loans, they were allowing unemployment benefits to be used as collateral for mortgages. Then you have the big banks.

BEHAR: And who allowed that?
    
COULTER No no no, oh, no. You cannot blame the Republicans on that. Just let me finish the train before you get to that.  The big banks -
    
BEHAR: You can't?.

COULTER: - the big banks then bundled them to the mortgage-backed securities, they got spread out into everyone's portfolio. So it was like a poison in the economy.

GOLDBERG: Not that. What happened to the money that Clinton left in the-? That's what I'm asking. What happened to the money that Clinton left -

BEHAR: A war was started.
    
GOLDBERG: - Oh god child. Clinton left when he left office? Where did that money go?  What happens?  What's happening?

COULTER: Social security, Medicare, Medicaid, paying congressional salaries.
    
GOLDBERG: So are we not all guilty, then?
    
COULTER: Sure.

GOLDBERG: Isn't it both parties that have -
    
BEHAR: Screwed up.
    
GOLDBERG: - messed this up? Messed this up?  It's not just one. So shouldn't we try to figure out how to fix it together?                

COULTER: Yes. And Not only that, I'd even go beyond blaming the politicians. I mean, it is the people. It's very hard to take their treats away. Once you start giving them the treats, -
    
GOLDBERG: That's right.
    
COULTER: - to tell them we're going to take them away is very hard.
    
GOLDBERG: That's absolutely right. So it's all of us.

BEHAR: A lot of is it is not treats. A lot of it is necessities, let's not get on that track.   It's not treats for some people, Ann. Some people need the money. I would not have survived. When I - when I got fired from my job from Good Morning America, I was a single, divorced mother. If I didn't have unemployment insurance, I would [censored].
    
COULTER: Ok. But how about treats being Social Security going to Donald Trump, because that's the way the system is set up right now?
    
BEHAR: Well, fix that part.

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I wouldn't call entitlements treats either

Submitted by optimist on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 5:38pm.

They're more like crack or heroin. You don't have to use it very long to become addicted, and once addicted it is a very painful and difficult process to break the addiction.

The revolution will be fought at the ballot box
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Id love to see a conservative woman on this show!

Submitted by NJRightWinger12 on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 5:53pm.

and I mean a REAL con-not some milquetoast RINO like Liz-cause any right-leaning woman would take these broads to LUNCH each day! Unfortuntely, that could get VERY expensive, esp if Joy uses the tern literally!

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. BEN FRANKLIN
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Why isn't there a real conservative woman

Submitted by texasborngranny on Thu, 06/09/2011 - 10:17am.

on The View? Because these ignorant [w]itches couldn't get away with their liberal lies.

This show is nothing more than a daily dose of democrat/liberal/progressive/socialist propaganda that would make Goebbels proud.

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Repay

Submitted by the mad pole on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 6:01pm.

Has Joy ever repayed her benefactors? Now that she has the money?

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Goldberg Proves Coulter's Point

Submitted by Kingfish17 on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 6:02pm.

Goldberg serves as the perfect example for Ann Coulter's new book, "Demonic: How the Liberal Mob Is Endangering America," Coulter points out how liberals form a mob mentality and when they argue a point, repeat catch phrases or slogans, and don't rely on logic.

It appears that Goldberg really believes that when Clinton left office, there was a pile of money, a surplus, just lying around.  "Where did that money go?"

You just can't get any dumber. 

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"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama

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Don't you know, Kingfish??

Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 6:43pm.

Bush and Cheney gathered it all up and "gave it" to their rich friends in the oil industry and Halliburton!!

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BULL!

Submitted by HardRightTurn on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 10:45pm.

Every individual taxpayer received a $600 tax rebate. The idea was to return overpaid taxes (surplus) to the taxpayer.
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To more fully comprehend the Left, one must read “Leftism As Psychopathy” by John Ray, M.A., Ph.D. Caution, it might scare you a little bit.
http://jonjayray.tripod.com/psycho.html

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Twas sarcasm,---

Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:14pm.

I believe.

MD

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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Coulter is wonderful...

Submitted by PJRyan on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 6:06pm.

...taking it down 12 notches so a View audience can get some of her encyclopedic knowledge has to be tough.

I would LOVE to see this conversation with no audience. Without the support of that pack of banshee-gerbils applauding anything that comes out of those 2 knuckle-draggers' mouths, removing someone for them to play to, maybe they'd STFU for 30 seconds and listen to someone SO much more knowledgable than themselves.

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Amen to that!

Submitted by Dave81 on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 6:13pm.

Coulter has done a wonderful job going around to all of these liberal shows defending her book. She's not sitting comfortably in a Fox news room somewhere surrounded by people who nod and agree with everything she says, she's going to the very people her book is about. That takes guts!

And The View absolutely proved the point of her book. Every time one of the talking heads spewed some liberal talking point, the audience (mob) would cheer in agreement. It's easy to LOOK like an eagle when you're surrounded by turkeys.

----- "A Bill of Rights is what the people are entitled to against every government, and what no just government should refuse, or rest on inference." Thomas Jefferson
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The View vs Ann Coulter

Submitted by Marat on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 6:08pm.

The View bringing a knife to a gunfight.

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Knife?! More like a wet

Submitted by HockeyKid on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 8:51pm.

Knife?! More like a wet noodle.

"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me

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Joy Behar

Submitted by Lord-come-soon-... on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 6:20pm.

The stupidest human being on Television. She used to be co-champ with Oprah, but now that Oprah has retired, Joy holds the title, and I can't see anyone taking it from her for a while.

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That would be co-chump

Submitted by pitter43 on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 6:40pm.

That would be co-chump

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Liberals

Submitted by jessieH on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 6:30pm.

I noticed that the liberal ladies on the View care more about entitlements than they do Constitutional Rights.

                                                                                                                                                                    

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It had to have been

Submitted by Marsh on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 6:31pm.

the shortest interview ever conducted on The View. I was waiting for a hook to appear front the side to drag Ann off.

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I have to think that Ann

Submitted by pitter43 on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 6:38pm.

I have to think that Ann Coulter couldn't have educated Joyless Behar. She's not smart enough to be educated on anything.

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Coulter "sparred" with Behar?

Submitted by SickofLibs on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 6:42pm.

LOL. Do gorillas spar with termites?

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Once again, Joy speaks and removes all doubt.

Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 6:41pm.

But she's not alone.

I don't think there's a liberal on that show who knows what actually caused the housing crisis. 

They're pretty sure Bush had something to do with it, though!

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Social Security and Donald Trump

Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 6:47pm.

I beg to differ with Coulter on this one. Trump paid into social security, why shouldn't he get it?

I'm with her on the entitlements thing, why are we giving welfare debit cards so that people can spend the money at casino's and strip clubs? Those aren't necessities Joy.

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But Joy was a "poor, divorced, single mother" leaving GMA

Submitted by TheHistorian on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 8:27pm.

But forgot to tell us that she was a RECEPTIONIST there. She also was a high school teacher (any wonder why the kids in Manhattan are so dumb?). But she may have been laid off, riffed, or fired, but she got unemployment. Welfare, if she got it, why?

Josephina Victoria Occhiuto needs to learn to take care of herself and her kid. She is not my responsibility.

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Dennis Prager

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Whoooopi

Submitted by jessieH on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 6:49pm.

She want's to know where the money went, when Clinton left office. She has forgotten. I'll refresh her memory. " 9/11 HAPPENED "! I doubt that she has ever heard a patriotic song. No one wanted to fight but the muslims struck us. The Japanese did the same, a few years ago, but this time, it wasn't a military base. It was New York City. Civillians. Children. Elderly. Maybe, if she reads this, she will remember.

                                                                                                                                                                    

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it wasn't just 9/11 it was

Submitted by 4rcane on Thu, 06/09/2011 - 1:35am.

it wasn't just 9/11 it was the internet bubble burst, just like the housing bubble burst

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This post needs a new title,

Submitted by lsudolemite on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 6:54pm.

because Behar isn't capable of learning anything.

"Liberalism is hideous.  It is the antithesis of being pro-human.  It looks at life as a burden in and of itself to be managed, rather than as a blessing to be explored and lived to the fullest." --Rush Limbaugh
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Joyless Blowhard still believes it was OUR fault,,

Submitted by NJRightWinger12 on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 6:55pm.

that WW2 happened, after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor! She was the only one in the Animal House audience that agreed with Bluto when he said that!

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. BEN FRANKLIN
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But the Gerrys didn't bomb Pearl Harbor

Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 8:26pm.

I mean, everybody knows it was those pesky Russians.  :-^)

-Dave

Vote for the American in November

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No, the attack on Pearl

Submitted by Beukeboom on Thu, 06/09/2011 - 9:52am.

No, the attack on Pearl Harbor was Bush's fault. Didn't you get the Dem's talking points memo on that???

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It was both Bushes AND the Russians!

Submitted by NJRightWinger12 on Thu, 06/09/2011 - 12:55pm.

But weve made peace with our Russkie allies, right?

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. BEN FRANKLIN
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Answering Whooooopie's misinformed question.

Submitted by Gary Hall on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 7:20pm.

  • WHOOPI GOLDBERG: Then how do you explain what happened once Bush got in? Because we had money when, when Clinton left. So what has happened?

Coulter missed on this one.

The dot.com (Enron) bubble crashed in March, 2000 (long before Bush won the Republican Party nomination). It was the economic fallout from that crash that was responsible for by far the largest portion  of the shift from current budget surpluses, the silly projected surpluses and what then resulted in huge deficits by 2003 ($378 billion).

The shift in fortunes (projected to realized) for the three years (2001-2003) was approximately. $1.3 Trillion.  The cost of 9/11 and the economic fallout from it added to the shift, as well.

Also, to follow up on Coulter's excellent explanation of how revenue rose while Reagan was cutting taxes and spurring economic growth, let's remember that the same was going on following the Bush tax cuts.

Following the full implementation of the Bush tax cuts, in 2003, federal tax revenue rose a record 44% thru 2007.  Annual deficits were on the decline, as well, until the crash of  2008.

(;~> gary

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There WAS no surplus

Submitted by TheHistorian on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 8:21pm.

Look at the curves at the link http://www.aaas.org/spp/rd/debt07.pdf. There was NO Clinton surplus. Total debt rose throughout Clinton's administration. It was as big a lie as "I never had sex with that woman, Monica Lewinsky". The lockbox was a political ploy to help Gore win the Presidency.

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TheHistorian.. getting debt and deficits confused a bit..

Submitted by Gary Hall on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 8:47pm.

Yes - national debt rose during the Clinton years - almost exactly as much as it rose thru the Reagan years.

There are two other items at play here (and then I'll let it revert back to my comment).

When Clinton left office, we were experiencing a brief period of budget surpluses.

The CBO projections - based upon the continued economic frenzy of the late '90's Enronesque bubble, and ever increasing tax revenue from it - did project massive "future budget surpluses for the coming ten years - in the area of some $5 Trillion; however, those are simply paper projections.

The economic crash, which began in March of 2000, put a quick end to all of those temporary (but nice) budget surpluses, and to the projected future surpluses.

One can argue that Bush's economic record does include adding much to total debt - but there is no argument which suggests that it was his administration, or policies that turned the surpluses into deficits - like they all like to play make believe with.

(;~> gary

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The View

Submitted by telecaster on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 8:15pm.

What a bunch of hen house crap.

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FDR did more to ruin this

Submitted by fatboy on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 8:47pm.

FDR did more to ruin this country than any other President in history thru GWB. Carter tried but Reagan stopped him. Who will stop Obama?

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WE

Submitted by HockeyKid on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 8:55pm.

the People!

"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me

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The Mistakes Coulter Makes...

Submitted by Tenebrous on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 9:11pm.

...is talking to these feral children as though they have mastered speech. They haven't. They still are not at the starting line, and they show this through their relying on COLLECTIVE GUILT. Liberals do not understand personal responsibility. Until they do, they will not make sense and they cannot reason. So Coulter shouldn't have bothered with talking about particulars. Principle is what the feral ones need to learn -- and chief among these is that every person is responsible for themselves. Point blank. Simple. Keep hitting the basics until they cry.

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Whatever cut and run troll.

Submitted by The Vet on Thu, 06/09/2011 - 1:10am.

I see we got your answer on my challenge after yet another one of your cut and run smears. Crickets.

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In a battle of wits, Joy

Submitted by Bhaal on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 9:29pm.

In a battle of wits, Joy Behar is unarmed.

"For evil to triumph it is enough only that good men do nothing".
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Joyless Barfer

Submitted by HardRightTurn on Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:01pm.

Ann Coulter regifts Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals".
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To more fully comprehend the Left, one must read “Leftism As Psychopathy” by John Ray, M.A., Ph.D. Caution, it might scare you a little bit.
http://jonjayray.tripod.com/psycho.html

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wish coulter answered the

Submitted by 4rcane on Thu, 06/09/2011 - 1:31am.

wish coulter answered the question on the clinton imagined surplus. It never existed,Every year Clinton was in office, the debt grew

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The fact is that it doesn't

Submitted by Beukeboom on Thu, 06/09/2011 - 9:52am.

The fact is that it doesn't take much to school the gals on The Spew...er...View. Walters, Goldberg & Behar brought pea-shooters. Coulter had a whole arsenal of high powered weaponry called "FACTS."

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Love Ann Coulter. I wonder if her audience is growing or

Submitted by Lipton on Thu, 06/09/2011 - 10:03am.

stagnant as she seems to be more vilified than even Sarah Palin. Women and men alike seem to enjoy making fun of her. She makes good points, but I wonder if her style makes her only able to speak to the converted. Any opinions.

My sister got me a talking Ann Coulter doll, and I held the doll to my stomach when I was pregnant, so that my unborn son could drink in her wisdom. This annoyed my husband.

I'd like to thank Hollywood for renewing my interest in reading.
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behar

Submitted by ph250 on Thu, 06/09/2011 - 11:00am.

joy behar was actually married at one time? shocking! someone actually impregnated her? more shocking!!!!! eeeewwwwww that thought makes me want to barf!

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I threw up a little in my mouth.

Submitted by Lipton on Thu, 06/09/2011 - 11:18am.

Whenever I think about her, I think about an annoying, nosy neighbor prancing around in stretch pants and bugging people with their pointless rants.

I'd like to thank Hollywood for renewing my interest in reading.
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Hard Right Turn

Submitted by phryingphish on Thu, 06/09/2011 - 5:36pm.

"Let them eat the cake?" - Marie Antoinette (Incredulously"

Please stop incorrectly attributing this phrase to Marie Antoinette. It rightfully belongs to history as no one can catagorically attribute it to any one. It was used well before Marie Antoinette was even born. At that time it was attributed to "A Powerfull Princess."

Yep, The internet police will get you!

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