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Gainor Column: Occupy Wall Street Nothing Like Tea Party

By Dan Gainor | October 19, 2011 | 09:49

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There’s a diagram floating around the Internet that claims to show areas of agreement between Tea Party protesters and the Occupy Wall Street crowd. It’s an idea supported by some pundits and media types as well. Even the president chimed in foolishly on the issue.

According to Obama, Occupy Wall Street isn’t all that different from the Tea Party. “In some ways, they’re not that different from some of the protests that we saw coming from the Tea Party,” he told ABC’s Jake Tapper. But that’s like saying the Russian and American revolutions were the same, when one led to a Socialist dictatorship and the other led to more freedom than any nation has ever had. Ohio Democrat Rep. Dennis Kucinich told CNN “I met with Tea Party people from the Cleveland area. And frankly they have a lot in common with the people who are occupying Wall Street around the country.” Time magazine tried a similar approach, asking the question: “Occupy Wall Street: A Tea Party for the Left?” The anti-American, Russian state-sponsored RT even found one Tea Party person to draw a connection. But that doesn’t make it true.

There’s a term for saying that the two protest movements are similar or have common goals. We call that idiotic. Communists used to call those who did such nonsense “useful idiots,” but either way you slice it, “idiotic” is the operative term.

Perhaps that’s even too mild. At its heart, the Occupy Wall Street movement is a Big Government, anti-American, anti-success bunch that wants Uncle Sam to squeeze the rich and give them the results – in free college, government jobs and more. The Tea Party is its mirror opposite. Tea Party protesters are anti-Big Government, pro-American, pro-success voters who want Uncle Sam off their backs – or at least shrunk and to a manageable size so carrying the government doesn’t break their backs.

Take a look around at one of the many mottos of the protest: “We are the 99 percent.” As part of that, they bemoan the cost of everything and want government to step in. One common theme is that, to quote a protester, “college is too $$$.” A protest website features 124 pages of “99 percent” complaints, including numerous whines about college costs. “I have an English degree that costs more to pay back than a job as a writer pays.”

That fits with Occupy Wall Streets “declaration of demands” that includes this attack on corporations: “They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right.” Soros-funded Moveon.org even has a petition calling to “forgive student loan debt” that has 573,903 signatures.

Then there’s the Tea Party view, best embodied by CNBC’s Rick Santelli in his famous rant heard round the world. Santelli was upset by bailouts, complaining: “This is America! How many of you people want to pay for your neighbors' mortgage that has an extra bathroom and can't pay their bills? ... President Obama, are you listening?”

For all that Occupiers are upset with Wall Street bailouts, they want one (or several) of their own. Tea Partiers want to be left alone – especially by government.

Occupy Wall Street loves government, but hates its current American form, aiming an endless stream of vitriol at America as protesters sing “F*** the USA” or the Occupy Los Angeles speaker calls for revolution by “violent means.” Tea partiers are upset with Washington spending or the president, but love their nation.

Both groups do like to wave flags. The Occupy Wall Street crowd waves the corporate version of the American flag (where corporate logos replace the flag), the communist hammer and sickle, and even the black flag of anarchy. At the Tea Party events you can find several types of the American flag – including many sizes of the current 50-star version and some Gadsden flags. Occupiers literally walk all over the American flag. Tea Partiers treat our flag with respect.

Occupiers are also internationalists. Their protest went global with events in 82 countries including big ones in Spain, Germany and Italy. Of course, that also includes injuries to “at least 70 protesters” and “more than 30 policemen.” Tea Partiers never cared if their movement went global; they cared that it went national.

Occupiers are often law breakers. Yes, thank God we have the 1st Amendment right to protest. But keep it legal, please. Seven hundred Occupiers were arrested when they tried to seize the Brooklyn Bridge. Boston police arrested another 140 who “allegedly tried to tie up traffic and refused to leave a large section of the Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy Greenway,” according to The Boston Globe. More than 1,800 Occupiers have been arrested (according to Twitter’s Occupyarrests tracker) across the nation from Gainesville, Fla. to Portland, Ore. Tea Party people obey the law and few were ever arrested.

Right now, polling shows some support for the Occupy Wall Street protests, but that’s largely the result of heavily spun media that hides all of the bad things about these demonstrations. When ordinary Americans see the extreme leftist nature of the protests, that will change in a big way. Then, perhaps, America will be ready for a spot of tea.

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Hey Professor, give up your summer home and your 3 cars!!

Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Wed, 10/19/2011 - 10:06am.

They don't want to pay those liberal college Professors? LOL

Americans keeping their own earnings is a Civil Right! Demand your Civil Rights!
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More differences

Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 10/19/2011 - 10:09am.

Tea Partiers never camped out and made a pigsty of their surroundings.

They never sought to "occupy" anything. The arrive in orderly fashion, listen respectfully to speeches, clean up after themselves, and go home.

They don't call for the overthrow of anything, not even the government they have big gripes with.

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OWS is the Anti-Tea Party...

Submitted by JohnMcGrew on Wed, 10/19/2011 - 10:12am.

...and it's not just their ideology that makes them different:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2046586/Occupy-Wall-Street-Shock...

A large percentage of the OWS participants are everything the media falsely tried to portray the Tea Party as; classless, clueless, sloppy, rude, racist, violent, criminal, just plain crazy, or some combination thereof.

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The Difference

Submitted by Gothampc on Wed, 10/19/2011 - 10:17am.

The Tea Party's target was government, the people we elected who are supposed to be working for us. Occupy Wall Street's target is private corporations, who owe us nothing and can go out of business tomorrow.

It's not that huge of a leap to understand this.

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Kucinich full of baloney

Submitted by jon_torlin on Wed, 10/19/2011 - 10:23am.

I read that segment regarding Kucinich and his meeting the TEA party in Cleavland versus the OWS around the country, I wouldn't believe a word of that if what we've seen of the OWS is any indication.  He might as well follow Pelousy's demagogue and say the TEA party were spitting on people.

The OWS are nothing but a bunch of flaming gimmie-thats with a few innocents sprinkled in for the sympathy kicks.

-Jon

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That "diagram that's floating

Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 10/19/2011 - 10:28am.

That "diagram that's floating around the internet" that supposedly shows "overlap" of the Tea Party and OWS takes opposition to government power on one hand, and opposition to corporate power on the other, and somehow translate that into  they both oppose lobbying and government  regulations that favor corporations???

Now THAT's a stretch worthy of Joan Rivers!

Would someone please point out to me where the words "lobbying" and "corporations" appear in the Tea Party platform?

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economic liberty vs economic justice

Submitted by kata on Wed, 10/19/2011 - 10:29am.

still a no brainer!

PS. if you read the second post that "conservative blogger" ever made you can see he never was one. Never agreed with any of the basic principles such as small government. So it's like a Catholic who calls themselves Catholic except, of course, that pesky doctrine thing.

Give Peas a Chance. ☑ ABØ in 2012
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kata, what "conservative

Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 10/19/2011 - 10:48am.

kata, what "conservative blogger" are you talking about? I can't seem to find that phrase.  What did I miss?

Anyway, did you see what ELSE Kucinich said, when he expanded on the quote featured here?

commonalities [Tea Party and OWS].....If we unite people around economic issues about getting America back to work and about frankly changing our monetary system where Wall Street and the Fed isn't always calling the shot, about making it possible for our young people to go to school and assuring the America people they will have their retirement security, I think we can put everything back together again.

THAT's what the Tea Party was about??? Changing the fed, free college, and a guaranteed retirement fund?

What the ?????

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the author of the diagram in the first link

Submitted by kata on Wed, 10/19/2011 - 10:53am.

his blog is "howconservativesdrovemeaway".

This whole spin on "similarities" just shows me how badly our mainstream media educates the public on national issues and how apathetic people are about finding out the truth themselves.

Give Peas a Chance. ☑ ABØ in 2012
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Ah, thanks. Got it!

Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 10/19/2011 - 11:01am.

Ah, thanks. Got it!

Dan Gainor hit the nail on the head:

There’s a term for saying that the two protest movements are similar or have common goals. We call that idiotic.

I would have gone with "insane."

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No kidding

Submitted by jon_torlin on Wed, 10/19/2011 - 10:54am.

I thought he was smarter than that and he actually had a little bit of my respect, but not anymore.

He's fruitier than a nutcake.

-Jon

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But for a couple of exceptions....

Submitted by almostacowboy on Wed, 10/19/2011 - 10:35am.

such as the OWS being organized and backed by George Soros, the TIDES Foundation, STORM, the Communist Party of the US, the International Socialist Organization, whatever that group from Canada's name is, the American Nazi Party, and the Democrats (is that redundant with the ISO and CPUSA?), they're exactly the same.

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A popular notion on the left

Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Wed, 10/19/2011 - 10:43am.

A popular notion on the left these days is that Karl Denniger is a founder of the TEA party.  I think there are no real founders as it is a movement and an idea.  At the beginning there were people who liked the idea and formed rallies with speakers and getting emails.  I see it still as a loose confederate organization of smaller organizations each answerable to its members only.  We might be in solidarity for now but we are individual organizations.

I tell people that they are loco and calling a dog's tail a leg don't make it so.  They say he founded the TEA party and now supports the OWS people.

Nuke em til they glow; then shoot em in the dark
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