Wrong again! It must stink being a network global warming alarmist. They just can't seem to get their stories straight.
It's only been a couple months when the networks were screaming about Arctic ice disappearing this summer. And, no surprise, they were entirely wrong. By 1.74 million square miles.
As Maxwell Smart used to say: "Missed it by that much."
Less than three months ago, NBC's Anne Thompson was warning ominously of ice loss. "But this summer, some scientists say that ice could retreat so dramatically that open water covers the North Pole, so much so that you could sail across it."
Or not. According to a September 16 National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) report, such predictions were off. Way off.
NSIDC reported ice loss was less than in 2007. "On September 12, 2008, sea ice extent dropped to 4.52 million square kilometers (1.74 million square miles). This appears to have been the lowest point of the year, as sea has now begun its annual cycle of growth in response to autumn cooling," according to the organization.
Two days after Thompson's report, on July 30, ABC weatherman Sam Champion told the "Good Morning America" audience that Arctic ice loss was on a record pace. "Every summer we're on a record pace for losing it last summer and this summer we're at the exact same pace."
The NSIDC assessment makes it clear that claim was also wrong, calling it "above the record minimum set on September 16, 2007." "The Arctic sea ice cover appears to have reached its minimum extent for the year, the second-lowest extent recorded since the dawn of the satellite era. "
Earlier in the summer, media outlets warned ominously that the ice could melt away. "Today" host Lester Holt described the story as "surprising and, frankly, alarming news from the scientific community, a new report that says the North Pole could soon be ice-free."
This fits an ongoing pattern of media hype about climate change where networks no longer report the issue with any sense of objectivity. A study published by the Business & Media Institute earlier this year showed how rarely dissenting voices were included in the climate debate. The study found that global warming proponents overwhelmingly outnumbered those with dissenting opinions. On average for every skeptic there were nearly 13 proponents featured. ABC did a slightly better job with a 7-to-1 ratio, while CBS's ratio was abysmal at nearly 38-to-1.
—Dan Gainor is director of the Business and Media Institute.
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Sam and Lester's special
September 18, 2008 - 07:53 ET by Mica the MagnificentLester and Sam should host and star in a 'special' showing them merrily sailing across the North Pole.
Sam: Uh oh. Looks like we hit solid ice.
Lester: And look at all the endangered polar bears surrounding us.
Sam: I called the states to send an ice breaker up here, but they told me they were all melted down and turned into wind mill blades.
Lester: Oh, the humanity. Back to you in the studio.
I have stopped looking at
September 18, 2008 - 07:59 ET by HermanoI have stopped looking at acticles of this tripe. I know from experience that the "data" they will use is bogus and that their anecdotal evidence will be highly questionable. This week I saw two headlines that I just had to pass on: one about arctic ice and the other about the summer temps being above the 30 year average. It is all BS.
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which 30 year average?
September 18, 2008 - 11:15 ET by mbuelCan you imagine if they used a 30 year average from the little ice age? We have warmed significantly sense then.
The whole notion of "an average" Temperature on Earth is absolutely tantamount to the largest hubris mankind has ever committed concerning knowledge of the world around us.
Palin has accomplished great things, while Obama has continued to make empty promises that the world owes you a living.
Pay Attention Now
September 18, 2008 - 08:16 ET by jaywlReally, you global warming deniers just don't pay attention to details. Both Anne "Pug-Nose" Thompson and Lester "Da Man" Holt said that the sea ice could melt away this year. Turns out it didn't, but, by golly, it could have. Maybe next year.
Everything is Global Warming
September 18, 2008 - 08:49 ET by dboSilly Dan. Didn't you know the more arctic ice is a sign of global warming? :-)
Now wait a minute...
September 18, 2008 - 09:26 ET by kufir77I think you mean "climate change".
I wonder
September 18, 2008 - 13:39 ET by mbuelIf they actually will fool a large majority of people with their rapid change of global warming to climate change.
Thus impliciting that ANY change from normal is man's fault. A news article I was reading the other day was still implying that the recent "warming" we've seen is directly tied to "enhanced greenhouse effect". I wonder though if that's the case, why hasn't it continued to warm as we've continued to "pollute" the air with increased CO2 from 1998? If anything we've continued to decline in Temperature since 1998.
So I see a rapid three way split coming early next spring after this hard winter:
1) Will be the people who jump ship to reality and realize the sun is controlling our weather.
2) Will be the dogmatics still pumping man made global warming, and that this last winter is just a dip in a long term "Warming" cycle.
3) Will be the flip flopping dogmatics who have switched over to Climate Change, and call ANY deviation from "average", the fault of man.
Palin has accomplished great things, while Obama has continued to make empty promises that the world owes you a living.
mb,
September 20, 2008 - 00:37 ET by HillbillyKingthe change in nomenclature is distressing to me. I noted awhile back that the shift in terminology represents an adaption on the part of those that propagate this entire myth. That means they are adjusting their tactics to continue their efforts in implementing their socialist goals. They know AGW is bullsh!t, it just happens to be the vehicle that will take them to the land of power and money if it succeeds.
They have also begun throwing some of the more extreme AGW fanatics "under the bus" in an effort to SEEM more reasonable. That also disturbs me, because it indicates a willingness to adapt the message to a more "acceptable" tone.
Regardless of the facts about the climate or the truth about AGW, I believe most of people that "believe" will fall into #'s 2 & 3 IF they change at all.
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Don Marquis 1878-1937
change in nomenclature
September 22, 2008 - 08:15 ET by mbuelIt's seriously worrying that they are getting away with changing their message. I think that more than anything politically shows the absolute bias of the old media.
Have you ever read the William Graham Sumner essay, "the forgotten man"? In it he makes the claim that A and B get together to decide how much C should pay to help D. D used to be the people who didn't work and were non-productive members of society. Since they haven't been able to sell that very well to the American people, they started slowly shifting D over to the environment.
Who in C wants to stand against that? If we say that they are being socialist in their controls of business, they can fire back that "we don't care" about the environment. And the environment unlike the previous D they were shifting money towards, can't reject the welfare they are handing out.
I'm holding out hope that as the climate shifts a majority of people will see through their bullcrap and not support them.
Palin has accomplished great things, while Obama has continued to make empty promises that the world owes you a living.
Image the news content without ...
September 18, 2008 - 09:11 ET by MeanderingGlobal Warming scares. I mean they would actually have to report the news instead of falling back on some easy filler that hasn't been proven. Either that or start making things up ... wait they already do that.
I am hoping Carnival cruise lines refunds my money
September 18, 2008 - 09:13 ET by JTPfor the north pole cruise I signed up for. I was hoping to darken my tan a little this fall. Damn!
"I need more cowbell!" SNL
A companion post to a great article!
September 18, 2008 - 09:21 ET by Roger the ShrubberIce is actually up 9% from 2007.
Anybody hear about the
September 18, 2008 - 09:28 ET by taterAnybody hear about the overnight lows coming close to records in the Northeast this week...you know since it is so close to where the teleprompter readers live. Yeah me neither.
www.theholyrosary.org
"There is no problem, I tell you, no matter how difficult it is, that we can not resolve by the prayer of the Holy Rosary." -Sister Lucia
What I keep hearing is that
September 18, 2008 - 10:14 ET by HelenSWhat I keep hearing is that "the ice levels are the second lowest in ... however long!" Well, collective dweebs, all that means is that there was a time a few years ago when the ice was even less than it is (supposedly) this year, and it came back!
And so, class, there was more ice more recently than it was low! (an awkward thought to write but my heart's in the right place.)
Hmm... very low ice - lots and lots of ice - low ice - ice coming back... Almost seems cyclical!
(And isn't the Farmer's Almanac, according to some ads I've been hearing, warning that the Northeast is going to have a record cold winter - heating cost will be out of control? YAY!!! Another crisis to report on! We're saved!!!!!!)
So just how heck do these knuckle dragging, mouth breathers get dressed in the morning!?
"Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God." - Paul (Rom. 13:1)
great screen cap.
September 18, 2008 - 12:10 ET by dans0622Good job with the screen capture--as the picture shows ice all over the place as far as the eye can see, the caption says "No ice." Funny.
Up the ice floe without a paddle
September 18, 2008 - 12:48 ET by nkviking75Maybe the Today Show can send Michelle Kosinski out in the Arctic Ocean in a canoe. But she'd better hope a polar bear doesn't walk by.
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
AP propaganda on the subject
September 18, 2008 - 21:10 ET by DemonhunterH/L Arctic Ice Reaches Second-Lowest Seasonal Minimum
AP story - WASHINGTON — Crucial Arctic sea ice this summer shrank to its second lowest level on record, continuing an alarming trend, scientists said Tuesday.
The ice covered 1.74 million square miles on Friday, marking a low point for this summer, according to NASA and the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colo.
Last summer, the sea ice covered only 1.59 million square miles, the lowest since record-keeping began in 1979.
A more truthful headline would be: Arctic Ice Increases by 9% Over Last Year; Has Global Cooling Replaced Global Warming? And a 9% increase over last year makes the claim "continuing an alarming trend" an absolute lie. But then, what else would you expect from AP?
http://www.foxnews.c...
http://newsbusters.org/forums/latest-news/global-cooling-24452
If it's not the Crusades, it's the cartoons
Once again.
September 20, 2008 - 01:01 ET by HillbillyKingI think I will post this on every Global Warming related thread, until I'm told to stop. I do so for those guests of ours that may be "believers" in AGW. Since your reading NB, please take the time to read some of the following and then THINK FOR YOURSELVES.
I remembered this particular thread;
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/07/17/nasa-climate-alarmist-attacks-newsbusters-sheppard
Imo, one of the top 3 posts I've ever read here at NB. The following are some of PT's lists and responses from that thread.
If you have not heard about RC (RealClimate)then your knowledge on the subject
is laughable. You could have simply asked and I would have provided
some excellent websites to learn about Climate:
Climate Audit (Stephen McIntyre, B.Sc. Mathematics, Canada)
ICECAP (International Climate and Environmental Change Assessment Project, USA)
Junk Science (Steve Milloy, B.A. Natural Sciences, M.S. Health Sciences, USA)
Planet Gore (National Review Online)
The Reference Frame (Luboš Motl, Ph.D. Theoretical Physicist, Czech Republic)
Watts Up With That? (Anthony Watts, Meteorologist, USA)
- SurfaceStations.org
Scientists:
Benny Peiser (Benny Peiser, Ph.D. Professor of Social Anthropology, UK)
- Cambridge Conference Network (CCNet)
Climate Police (Joseph Conklin, M.S. Meteorology, USA)
Climate Science (Roger A. Pielke (Sr.), Ph.D. Meteorology, USA)
Climate Skeptic (Warren Meyer, B.S. Mechanical Engineering, USA)
CO2 Web (Tom V. Segalstad, Ph.D. Professor of Environmental Geology, Norway)
Comment & Information on Climate Change (Robert (Bob) M. Carter, B.Sc. Geology, Ph.D. Paleontology, Australia)
EcoMyths (Graham Smith, Associate Professor of Geography, Canada)
Global Warming Comments (Hans Erren, M.Sc. Geophysics, The Netherlands)
Global Warming Issues (John McLean, Climate Data Analyst, Australia)
Global Warming Politics (Philip Stott, Professor Emeritus of Biogeography, UK)
Greenie Watch (John J. Ray, Ph.D. Psychology, Australia)
Johnston's Archive - Environmental Topics (Wm. Robert Johnston, B.A. Astronomy, M.S. Physics, USA)
Number Watch (John Brignell, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Electronics & Computer Science, UK)
Prometheus - The Science Policy Blog (Roger A. Pielke (Jr.), Ph.D. Political Science, USA)
Ross McKitrick (Ross McKitrick, Ph.D. Economics, Canada)
Science & Environmental Policy Project (S. Fred Singer, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Environmental Sciences, USA)
ScienceBits (Nir J. Shaviv, Ph.D. Astrophysicist, Israel)
Science is Broken (Gary Novak, M.S. Microbiology, USA)
The Global Warming Challenge (J. Scott Armstrong, B.A. Applied Science, B.S. Industrial Engineering, Ph.D. MIT, USA)
The Politics and Environment Blog (Jennifer Marohasy, Ph.D. Biology, Australia)
William M. Briggs (William M. Briggs, B.S. Meteorology and Math, M.S. Atmospheric Science, Ph.D. Statistics, USA)
World Climate Report (Patrick J. Michaels, Ph.D. Ecological Climatology, USA)
Carbon Sense Coalition
Climate Change Fraud
Climate Debate Daily
Climate Resistance
CO2 Science
CO2 Skeptics
E-Team
Environmental Capital
Environmentalism is Fascism
EnvironmentNC
Facts on Energy
False Alarm
Global Warming.org
Global Warming and the Climate
Global Warming Debunking News and Views
Global Warming Petition Project
Global Warming Heartland
Global Warming Hyperbole
Global Warming Hysteria
Global Warming Information Center
Global Warming Science
Global Warming Skeptics
Models, Methods, Software
Not by Fire but by Ice
NC Media Watch
Omniclimate
Ponder the Maunder
US Senate Environment & Public Works Committee
Spiked - Environment
Still Waiting for Greenhouse
TCS Daily - Energy and Environment
- Science Roundtable
The Blackboard
The Carbon Sense Coalition
The Global Warming Hoax
Warming Scare Tactics
Warwick Hughes - Free Lance Science Research
- Errors in IPCC Climate Science Blog
Climate Audit (Stephen McIntyre, B.Sc. Mathematics, Canada)
ICECAP (International Climate and Environmental Change Assessment Project, USA)
Junk Science (Steve Milloy, B.A. Natural Sciences, M.S. Health Sciences, USA)
Planet Gore (National Review Online)
The Reference Frame (Luboš Motl, Ph.D. Theoretical Physicist, Czech Republic)
Watts Up With That? (Anthony Watts, Meteorologist, USA)
- SurfaceStations.org
Scientists:
Benny Peiser (Benny Peiser, Ph.D. Professor of Social Anthropology, UK)
- Cambridge Conference Network (CCNet)
Climate Police (Joseph Conklin, M.S. Meteorology, USA)
Climate Science (Roger A. Pielke (Sr.), Ph.D. Meteorology, USA)
Climate Skeptic (Warren Meyer, B.S. Mechanical Engineering, USA)
CO2 Web (Tom V. Segalstad, Ph.D. Professor of Environmental Geology, Norway)
Comment & Information on Climate Change (Robert (Bob) M. Carter, B.Sc. Geology, Ph.D. Paleontology, Australia)
EcoMyths (Graham Smith, Associate Professor of Geography, Canada)
Global Warming Comments (Hans Erren, M.Sc. Geophysics, The Netherlands)
Global Warming Issues (John McLean, Climate Data Analyst, Australia)
Global Warming Politics (Philip Stott, Professor Emeritus of Biogeography, UK)
Greenie Watch (John J. Ray, Ph.D. Psychology, Australia)
Johnston's Archive - Environmental Topics (Wm. Robert Johnston, B.A. Astronomy, M.S. Physics, USA)
Number Watch (John Brignell, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Electronics & Computer Science, UK)
Prometheus - The Science Policy Blog (Roger A. Pielke (Jr.), Ph.D. Political Science, USA)
Ross McKitrick (Ross McKitrick, Ph.D. Economics, Canada)
Science & Environmental Policy Project (S. Fred Singer, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Environmental Sciences, USA)
ScienceBits (Nir J. Shaviv, Ph.D. Astrophysicist, Israel)
Science is Broken (Gary Novak, M.S. Microbiology, USA)
The Global Warming Challenge (J. Scott Armstrong, B.A. Applied Science, B.S. Industrial Engineering, Ph.D. MIT, USA)
The Politics and Environment Blog (Jennifer Marohasy, Ph.D. Biology, Australia)
William M. Briggs (William M. Briggs, B.S. Meteorology and Math, M.S. Atmospheric Science, Ph.D. Statistics, USA)
World Climate Report (Patrick J. Michaels, Ph.D. Ecological Climatology, USA)
Carbon Sense Coalition
Climate Change Fraud
Climate Debate Daily
Climate Resistance
CO2 Science
CO2 Skeptics
E-Team
Environmental Capital
Environmentalism is Fascism
EnvironmentNC
Facts on Energy
False Alarm
Global Warming.org
Global Warming and the Climate
Global Warming Debunking News and Views
Global Warming Petition Project
Global Warming Heartland
Global Warming Hyperbole
Global Warming Hysteria
Global Warming Information Center
Global Warming Science
Global Warming Skeptics
Models, Methods, Software
Not by Fire but by Ice
NC Media Watch
Omniclimate
Ponder the Maunder
US Senate Environment & Public Works Committee
Spiked - Environment
Still Waiting for Greenhouse
TCS Daily - Energy and Environment
- Science Roundtable
The Blackboard
The Carbon Sense Coalition
The Global Warming Hoax
Warming Scare Tactics
Warwick Hughes - Free Lance Science Research
- Errors in IPCC Climate Science Blog
Organizations:
AccuWeather - Global Warming (USA)
American Enterprise Institute - Climate Change (USA)
American Land Rights Association (USA)
Business & Media Institute - Environment (USA)
Canada Free Press - Global Warming (Canada)
Cato Institute - Global Warming (USA)
Civil Society Coalition on Climate Change
Competitive Enterprise Institute - Climate Change (USA)
Foundation for Research on Economics and the Environment (FREE) (USA)
Friends of Science (Canada)
Frontier Center for Public Policy - Climate Change (Canada)
George C. Marshall Institute - Climate Change (USA)
Grassfire.org (USA)
Heartland Institute - Global Warming (USA)
Institute for Energy Research - Climate Change (USA)
International Climate Science Coalition (Canada)
John Locke Foundation - EnvironmentNC (USA)
National Center for Policy Analysis - E-Team (USA)
National Center for Public Policy Research - Environment (USA)
Natural Resources Stewardship Project (Canada)
New Zealand Climate Science Coalition (New Zealand)
Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine (USA)
Pacific Research Institute - Environment (USA)
Property and Environment Research Center (PERC) (USA)
Science & Public Policy Institute (USA)
The Association of British Drivers - Environment - Global Warming Links (UK)
The Australian APEC Study Centre - Environment (Australia)
The Center for Science and Public Policy (USA)
The Fraser Institute - Environment (Canada)
The Heritage Foundation - Energy and Environment (USA)
The Independent Institute - Environment (USA)
The Lavoisier Group (Australia)
The most important problem with all of this is that the temperature record is severly distorted and has been adjusted beyond the raw numbers. The stations where the records are obtained do not even meet their own quality standards and some records are just made up.
So no they are not using accurate data and no they do not include every
variable because some they do not even understand yet and no they do
not take into account chaos theory or rather a basic understanding of
computer systems. Oh sure they make alot of excuses for all of this but
they do not resolve these problems.
The fact that the land based temperature stations are this bad means everything. This is not anectodal but the whole U.S. network is currently being independently audited and the amount of stations that meet NOAA's CRN=1 rating is only 4%
out of 536 stations so far! That means the rest of the stations have a
location bias affecting the temperature reading. Adjusting temperatures
is a cruel joke and I don't believe it is possible to accurately adjust
temperatures. We need to get measurements ONLY from quality stations.
Here is what "adjustments" have been made to the temperatures so far.
Since all the computer models "proving" AGW are based on these
records that effectively debunks their results as worthless. That is
beyond the fact that it is effectively impossible to make a computer
model that can predict the Earth's climate. You would need an earth
simulator modeling every molecule on the planet and it's interactions
with space and various things we still do not understand, thus
effectively impossible.
Fundamental Computer Science - if a Computer Model includes merely
one approximation for what latter dependant calculations or data are
derived from then the output of the model is useless. This is Computer
Science 101.
Arctic Volcanoes Found Active at Unprecedented Depths (National Geographic)
Hydrothermal Vents Found in Arctic Ocean (National Geographic)
Hotbed of Volcanic Activity Found Beneath Arctic Ocean (National Geographic)
Under Icy Arctic Waters, A Fiery, Unexpected Find (The New York Times)
I encourage anyone with a few minutes to spare to read the thread. It
exposes the lengths that proponents of global warming will go to
surpress dissenting information.
(As always H/T to PT for doing the real work, I look forward to your return to this debate.)
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Don Marquis 1878-1937