Gore Takes the Prize, Media Take the Cake

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President Theodore Roosevelt. Mother Teresa. Lech Walesa. Martin Luther King. Al Gore? The list reads like an easy SAT question, but all five are now the correct answer to: Who won the Nobel Peace Prize? The others earned the prize through hard work, self sacrifice and deeds. Al Gore won it through outlandish media support that portrayed him in almost messianic terms as "evangelist," a "preacher," or a "prophet."

I'd love to spare you the Gore-y details about his plans for higher taxes, new global regulations billions of dollars in new spending or the devastation of the American economy, but that's what he's got in store for us all.

However, the award Gore shared with the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), claimed it was "for their efforts to build up and disseminate greater knowledge about man-made climate change, and to lay the foundations for the measures that are needed to counteract such change."

The media's nearly two-year celebration of Gore's movie "An Inconvenient Truth" led us here. You couldn't escape Gore if you tried - "Larry King," the morning news shows, the nightly news programs and even "Saturday Night Live" and the Sci-Fi Channel. In just three months of summer of 2006, Gore and his movie had spent more than five hours and 38 minutes on national television. In 2007, eight networks under the umbrella of NBC set aside an incredible 93 hours to his "Live Earth" concert, including three hours in primetime on NBC.

The tidal wave of attention included many working journalists. In one of the most memorable appearances, then "Today" host Katie Couric gushed over the former vice president more like a fan than a newswoman. "I think in this movie at different turns you're funny, vulnerable, disarming, self-effacing and someone said after watching it quote, ‘if only he was like this before, maybe things would have turned out differently in 2000," she said to Gore on the May 24, 2006 "Today."

In March of this year, Gore went to Capitol Hill to argue for increased global warming regulation, government control of light bulbs and billions of dollars in taxes and eco-spending. CBS reporter Gloria Borger praised him for the appearance. "Actually, he now has a pulpit. Gore is the nation's foremost environmental evangelist, and Preacher Al was here," she told viewers.

The night before the Nobel Prize was announced, NBC was almost giddy at the prospect of a Gore victory leading to his potential presidential candidacy. "Reporter David Gregory trumpeted how Gore has supposedly ‘become both a global force tackling climate change and a celebrated figure now in the running for the Nobel Peace Prize,'" according to a report from the Media Research Center's Brent Baker.

 

—Dan Gainor is vice president for Business and Culture at the Media Research Center.


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Well, Mr. Gore probably

Well, Mr. Gore probably shouldn't get too worked up over this. It might not have been won on his own "merits." Like Jimmy Carter, he may have been chosen simply as a "kick in the leg" to the Bush administration.

<sarc> You know, since Bush pulled us out of the Kyoto treaty, and all....

Political BS

He isnt fit to lick the shoes of those others mentioned.

well here

well here goes:

Congratulations fomer-Vice President Gore! Another great American recently achieves the Nobel Peace Prize! Our nation is proud of you and your service to our country and the world! We wish you continued success regarding the cause for world peace! 

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Bush Ties Peace Prize Record

Boi From Troy:

Bush Ties Peace Prize Record

With the selection of the International Committee on Climate Change and Al Gore, Jr., for this year’s Nobel Peace Prize, President Bush has moved into the record book for most Peace Prizes awarded to Americans during their presidency.

His Presidency is tied with three others for most Americans winning the Award!

Previous American Presidents to share multiple peace prizes during
their Presidency were Ronald Reagan, Richard M. Nixon and…Herbert
Hoover.

Instapundit says: BEST. SPIN. EVER.

Excellent Bacchus! We need to use this a lot!

Excellent Bacchus! We need to use this a lot!

"Nobel Prizes" lost credibility when Carter got one

No surprises here. The Nobel prizes are no longer awarded to those that deserve them. It is just another worthless award that means nothing. Even if global warming were true, what does this have to do with peace?

No RINOs in '08

I agree that it's worthless,

I agree that it's worthless, but I think it really went into the tank long before Carter, when they gave it to Yasser Arafat.

Especially considering

Nobel's own historical intentions for the future of his explosives-windfall...This is one of the risks and ironies of great wealth, it seems, and the wealthy as a group have yet to solve the problem of socialists mishandling wealth which was obtained via capitalism.
JMR

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Political?

I heard on BBC, prior to the announcement, that the prize committee is selected by the Norwegian parliament.

How could it be (he adds sarcastically) anything but fair?  After all, totally unbiased politicians selected the committee.

It would seem that given all of the controversy Algore has stirred up, he would be the last choice for a "peace prize".

MLK was quite dispised as

MLK was quite dispised as well when he won...

Peace leaders are seldom popular...

Just look at Rush, Reagan, etc... 

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Wrong list

You listed: "President Theodore Roosevelt. Mother Teresa. Lech Walesa. Martin Luther King. Al Gore?"

You should have listed Arafat and Carter instead. Those were political appointees, and people who's creditionals included terrorism, cowardice, and destructive actions.

If Gore had to receive anything, it's fitting it would fall under Peace Prize. His pile of crap certainly isn't science, so none of the other Nobel prizes would qualify. In fact, U.K. courts have documented at least 9 specific Untruths in his InConvenient Truth propaganda piece.

What a bunch of hooey.

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Lost Respect

I lost all respect for the Nobel prize when it was given to Jimma and Yassar Airarat. Owl Gore winning it just bolsters that. GW is BS. It has nothing to do with peace.

Southern by birth, Tarheel by the grace of God!

Let's be Grateful

I for one am grateful that the non-political committee selected by politicians only gave him the peace prize. I was afraid he would also get the Physics and Chemistry Prizes.

I am also thankful that these folks are socialits up there. Otherwise would canonization in a chuch be far behind? 

All hail St. Gore.  (Note to News babes doing interviews: Kissing of ring and fawning are now de-rigeur.)

What does a movie that is

What does a movie that is packed with half-truths and lies about the climate have to do with world peace?

Hopping mad

Michael Moore must be hopping mad out there. He must be thinking "What does a citizen have to do to get the top prize around here? My movies have just as many untruths and fear-mongering ideas in them as Gore's. I'm just as deserving. I've been shafted".

Moore should now make a movie against Gore, just to get even.

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If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a Soldier. - My barber

"Moore should now make a movie against Gore, just to get even."

...maybe "The Hunt for Manbearpig"?

v

Yeah, logic, reason, facts play less of a role now in the way we make decisions in America. – Al Gore

Don't forget racism and

Don't forget racism and economism.

They want to keep the poorest people in the world poor and dying of disease so they won't increase their carbon footprint.

That's not only sick and evil, but adds to peace?

   Ignorance is bliss. It's easier to repeat a mindless slogan than to do some actual research.

The Joe

Morning Joe has been talking a lot about this (even had a mention to newsbusters). At least Joe thinks this award is outrageous (or at least he sounds sarcastic about his praise to Al Gore). Can't wait to see those glaciers make a comback.

Former VP Gore's whole

Former VP Gore's whole point is for us to live green - so he's not perfect - nobody is - just like Rumsfeld and our military in Iraq - but what is the larger issue here?

Are conservatives offering inspiring leadership on the environment like our distinguished former VP is? Or are we just complaining about any and all liberals ideas that come along?

The libs whine about Iraq. Likewise Conservatives whine about Al Gore. Can we maybe instead hear more about our environmental leadership ideas...?

Conservatives invented conservation. Nixon created the EPA. This award could have gone to a conservative who inspired action instead of just complaining about our distinguished former VP. 

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Love ya TM but tell me you are KIDDING!

"Former VP Gore's whole point is for us to live green - so he's not perfect - nobody is"

No, Al Gore's point is to line his pockets and subvert true morality by pretending to take the moral high ground on an issue that has been invented by his deliberate LIES.


Shut up and blog! If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal. Go Rudy!

Do it!  Lead, inspire. 

Do it!  Lead, inspire.  That would be fabulous!

Inventing the EPA

Stopped no pollution. It merely made another federal government agency, which slowly transmogrified (see "Superfund") into a HUGE welfare program for already-wealthy lawyers. Tricky Dick also instituted wage & price controls and did various other things to increase the size of an already-too-big government. His criminality ultimately paved the way for Carter.
JMR

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Was that intended to be tongue in cheek?

Let me get this straight...

Gore Jr lied his way through a lie-infested dorkumentary and was handed an Oscar by leftist sycophants. He publically admitted that embellishment is necessary to generate political will for unpopular causes, and you question/blame GOP leadership?

Free markets, not government interference, lead to innovation. Why we don't have neighborhood-level nuclear plants all over the country, bolstered by drilling for domestic supplies of oil in ANWAR's barren wastelends and in the Gulf of Mexico, is simply baffling.

Nothing wrong with being environment friendly

Gore isnt though.He is in it for himself.Still you can be about conservation and not be a yutt like Gore.When I was living in Oregon they use to have a 5 cents on cans and bottle.When you turned them in you got 5 cents back.Why not do that nation wide.It helps keep the area and highways clean.Create incentives in recycleing.It doesnt have to massive but every bit helps.All these college kids who want to save the earth.Do something with that.Have plant a tree day.Start a collection at colleges and schools for the tree plants and one day in the year use the money for buying the trees and planting them.It can be easily organized at the local level.No cost to the goverment and helps the environment.You have all these state and local Repub party organizations.They could help cordinate them.Schools have buses well work with them to use for transportion.Have a barbeque that day.Make it fun maybe hook up with some farmers and local buissness to get some grub.Keep it on the local level.Just a few ideas that a candidate could support and it would help.

It's a shame there's not a

It's a shame there's not a Nobel Prize for "Best Fictional Comedy About a Scientific Subject." He would have won that one hands down, and it would have been a far more relevant award.

They should drop the peace prize, it's testament to meaningless drivel.

Shame shame

Considering the recent court ruling in Great Britian one would think the Nobel Committee would understand they have just been conned. 

 

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius

This is too pathetic

This is not a good day to be a Norwegian amongst you, my esteemed and brilliant cohorts. 

On "International Talk Like a Pirate Day" I can pretend that pirates are the legitimate off-spring of the Vikings and have fun.  On "Chris the imposter Columbus Day" I can be inspired, again, to track the event back to the Vikings.

But today?  It is with a heavy heart and a sense of shame that I must acknowledge, again (whif of Carter...) that this merry band of Socialists has voted yet another jackass into the motley crew of past and current Nobel Prize winners.

I wonder if there's room in Nobel's coffin for the spinning this should generate?

What the hell, I'm on a roll here: how on earth could this wimpy crew, decended from such Nobel and noble stock - guys who sailed around huge amounts of the world with their one sail, raping pillaging burning, having a marauding good time, all made possible by the THEN warm era! - vote this bloated buffoon a medal? 

 It beggars the imagination and one's heart quails at the realization that the same land that brought us Viking terror (a furore normannorum, libera nos domine! * ) and goat cheese can now foist this bloated pig on the world as someone of note.

Gag. 

* From the fury of the northmen deliver us O God!

"Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war"  - Shakespeare

I would just like to add:

There is a wonderful little map of the world from the Viking perspective.  It shows the north pole, or somewhere up there, as the center of the map and the other areas identified from the perspective of people who sailed around in the north sea on their way to wherever the heck they wanted to go.

Couldn't have done it or drawn this amazing map to navigate by if there had been ice in the way.

It's been warm before, Al the Pig. 

This is really a shameful day in the annals of the Nobel Prize.

"Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war"  - Shakespeare

You're joking right?

You're joking right?

?

About what? 

...Oh, I get it!  All these comments about Al were obviously true (as is the map, by the way) so you found some obscure point in my post to query?

Doesn't that just confirm what all the other posts said - nothing there to debate? 

Nicely done, Leon.

"Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war"  - Shakespeare

The map is

The map is hilarious.

Thanks for your sweet 'proof'

haha.

 

Leon the Orange

I live to make you happy, Leon. 

"Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war"  - Shakespeare

"I live to make you happy, Leon."

As do we all.  Simple and plain.  ) :

v

Leon, you're not very smart,

Leon, you're not very smart, are you? Ever wonder why the Vikings named Greenland "Greenland?" Think about it. Did you know that England once had a thriving wine industry in Medieval times? Think about it. Oh wait, you're not very smart, are you? At ease, you may return to your Green Acres reruns.

Marvl,The Vikings named

Marvl,

The Vikings named Greenland, Greenland to fool people into thinking it was hospitable.  Erik the Red was trying to attract more settlers.

And guess what they named the place that was green to prevent people from flocking there...drum roooolll...Iceland.

Why did you think they named it Greenland?  Don't tell me you actually thought it was b/c it was green! haha.

And you're calling me stupid.  To rich.  You might want to be sure you're right before you attack someone as being stupid.

Ha what a joke you are. 

Leon... There is an

Leon...

There is an upside to all of this... Greenland will soon change it's name to Oil-Land.

 

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GreenWAHR

Drill, drill, drill . . . ;-)

Drill, drill,

Drill, drill, drill...

Yeah baby! 

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Big Oil

And while Big Oil is busy with that, Big Electricity can start building more Nuke plants . . .

Leon - making up his own historical facts again...

 The Vikings named Greenland, Greenland to fool people into thinking it was hospitable.  Erik the Red was trying to attract more settlers. Leon

Greenland: Main contributors to the demise of the Norse settlements appeared to have been destruction of the natural vegetation for farming, turf, and wood by the Norse and ensuing soil erosion and a decline in local temperatures during the Little Ice Age...

Even though popular history credits Erik as the founder of Greenland, earlier Norsemen both discovered and tried to settle it before him.

dolt

v

"…you are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts." -the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan.

Ok, and Leon is

Ok, and Leon is correct.

Erik the Red named Greenland.  Those before him did not.

"run as fast as you can"

proof?

v

"…you are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts." -the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan.

Pick your Source. It's

Pick your Source.

It's called Google.  Very convenient.  You should check it out.  Esp. prior to calling someone an idiot when they are right and you are wrong.

"Google works alright" Did YOU follow any links?

"The next migration came from the east, following "Erik the Red" Thorwaldsson's exploration of the southern coast of Greenland between 982 and 985 AD. In 986, he led a group of Viking families from Iceland, and settled at Brattahlid, traditionally known as Qassiarsuk (route map). The climate at this time was very warm, much wamer than it is today, and crops were able to do well. It seems likely that the name "Greenland" was given to the country, not just as wishful thinkful, but because it was a climatic fact at that time."

...the discusion was on "why" ir was named Greenland not by "who".

dolt

v

"…you are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts." -the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan.

Greenland was named

Greenland was named Greenland by Erik the Red after his expulsion from Iceland because he wanted to attract other settlers to Greenland.

Where did you get the above quote?  You don't cite your source, which is convenient considering it's dead wrong.

Greenland" was given to the country, not just as wishful thinkful, but because it was a climatic fact at that time."

This statement is catergorically false.  Where did you get it?

Furthermore, Leon's conversation was about WHY, but then you challenged him on the WHO.  Read the thread.  It's all right there.

"as-fast-as-you-can-man" why not who, you lose...

Leon, you're not very smart,October 12, 2007 - 14:19 ET by marvl

Leon, you're not very smart, are you? Ever wonder why the Vikings named Greenland "Greenland?" Think about it. Did you know that England once had a thriving wine industry in Medieval times? Think about it. Oh wait, you're not very smart, are you? At ease, you may return to your Green Acres reruns.

v

as-fast-as-you-can-man, your hero...

Yeah, logic, reason, facts play less of a role now in the way we make decisions in America. – Al Gore

And here is Leon's Direct

And here is Leon's Direct Response:

Marvl,The Vikings named

October 12, 2007 - 14:30 ET by Leon

Marvl,

The Vikings named Greenland, Greenland to fool people into thinking it was hospitable.  Erik the Red was trying to attract more settlers.

What are you getting at? 

This statement is catergorically false. Where did you get it?..

...one of your Google "links"...find it yourself.

v

Men stumble over the truth from time to time, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing happened. -Winston Churchill.

That's funny. I was using

That's funny.

I was using the google link to prove a point.  The answer you were looking for was easy to find.

It's funny that you happened to choose one of the wrong ones.  Very funny indeed.

It's funny that you happened to choose one of the wrong ones....

...you mean the ones that  don't support your opinions.  hmmm

"…you are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts." -the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan.

so as-fast-as-you-can-man:

  • Greenland was settled and farmed during a "warmer" period

  • the farming was causing GW (Greenland Warming)

  • Al the Gore (cousin of Erik the Red) demanded farming to stop as it was causing a rise in Greenlands temperature

  • the farming ceased as Al the Gore had won the Iceland Peas Prize and was thought to be an important man

  • due to the farming coming to an end, temps dropped and caused the "Little Ice Age"

v

Uh the fact that Erik the

Uh the fact that Erik the Red named Greenland, Greenland to attract settlers is not an opinion.

It's a well-known fact.  So which of the links did you pull your wrong fact from?  And how did you get through elementary school without learning this COMMON fact about Greenland?

"fast-as-you-can-man" - one of "your links!

He used the time to explore the rumored lands to the west. When his term of banishment expired, he returned to Icleand to invite his neighbors and friends to settle the new country with him. He purposely chose the pleasant name Grænland ("green land") to attract settlers, but the choice wasn't exactly misleading. Some parts of Greenland, especially the parts the Norse settled, really are green, as these pictures from the tourist board attest (www.greenland-guide.dk/outdoor_life_photo.htm). He may have been a killer, but at least he wasn't a real-estate scam-artist. He didn't have that much to gain by lying anyway, since he didn't charge anyone for the land. As in Iceland a century before, the land was free for the taking. Natives had lived in the area in the past, but at the time of Erik's voyage, only the northern part of Greenland was occupied by the Inuit (Eskimos).

Ok. So Leon was

Ok.

So Leon was right.

And yes, the southern coast of Greenland was green at the time of Erik the Red.  But just the coast.  And not much of it.

So what is  your point?  The fact of the matter is that Greenland was named as such in order to attract more settlers.

Why do you think the Greenland colonization didn't last very long? 

I know why.  Not very much green land.

Game.  Set.  Match.  Give reading a try.  You might not be as confused then.

Mar vel....concepts are key, and they are out of the grasp

Concepts of the Planet that existed in the "Vikings" times, are out of the Grasp of the normal Liberal acting like a Conservative....

Sure France had a Wine Import embargo on England as part of recorded history, Sure you can't grow Grapes in England today it's too COLD.  But it's a concept that cannot be acknowledged by Leon the Liberal Conservative .....

Seeking Knowledge detracts from pushing Agendas....

He's in a hurry to go somewhere, and doesn't want any knowledge in the form of "Baggage" slowing him down.

 

Ah Jay Tee, Uh actually

Ah Jay Tee,

Uh actually there tiger people do grow grapes in England and they do make their own wine in England.

So it appears it's actually a concept you can't grasp.

Again, you might want to make sure you know what you're talking about before attacking other posters.  Just a thought.

Enjoy learning more about England's contemporary Wine Culture.

Joker! haha.  Wow nice  try.  Thanks for the softball. 

Oh JayTee, Haha.  Still

Oh JayTee,

Haha.  Still laughing about your post.

Just wanted to let you know that vineyards are planted in all but six counties in England.

ALL but 6...

ha

Leon, Glad you enjoyed the Wine..however...Volume is the Key

What's the Tonnage/# Bottles of Wine being shipped around the World Grown in England ? 

Please find (if you can) the "English" section of your local Wine store...I see California, Italy, France, Australia, but I don't see any South England or Scottish Wine...Enlighten us...Send us a bottle of English Wine bought outside of England. 

 

What good is a Free Press, if it is a False Press ?   David Foote  GoE

I've been enjoying this

I've been enjoying this thread.  Watching with great interest.

 Why is Volume the key?

You said there are no wines made in England.  Leon showed you that there are.

You are wrong.  How does the volume somehow change what you said?

You're interested in buying English wine in America?  Then go to any wine store and ask the clerk.  English wine is easy to find in America. 

Wow.  You're hatred of Leon is really blinding you to logic.

there is plenty of

there is plenty of blindness to go round on this thread... 

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If there's English Wine, ya have to ask a clerk to find it ?

I don't hate Leon....He's gonna be a nice guy when he grows up and stops drinking that English wine...

Volume is key...because...

Just like Russia Manufactures Automobiles....but.... ya can't find 'em outside of Russia, because no one wants to buy them. They can't compete.  

Vineyards in England, yep, but the can't compete on the Wine scale of today, to short a growing season, and no sunshine.

I'm sure England has grapes, but unlike the medieval times, the "Volume" and Quality are NO THREAT to France like it was when Global warming created a BIG VOLUME Wine industry in England such that France felt threatened by English imports.

Today's English "Grape" volume/Quality is no threat to any country....and If I have to ASK A CLERK where the heck I can find English wine in his Store....it must be hard to find....and I don't want him laughing at me...asking for English wine.  

 

What good is a Free Press, if it is a False Press ?   David Foote  GoE

You don't have to ask a

You don't have to ask a clerk, I just figured you specifically might have to since you haven't been able to find English wine before.

Sure, it's not as voluminous as Italian or French wine, but most wine stores I've been to do carry an English selection.  English wines compete just fine.  You've already demonstrated your lack of wine knowledge are you sure you want to go deeper? 

This brings us back to your original point however.  You are now backpeddling. 

You never said anything about volume or threat to French wine.  Your exact claim was that there is NO wine made in England anymore.  Is this not what you said?  Because that's what I read.  And Leon showed you that you were in fact dead wrong.

English wine.

How many people does it take to drink English Wine?

Four. One victim, two to hold him down and one more to pour the wine into his mouth.

 

--Found on the Internet

OK..Here is the English Wine Volume problem..

This is from Leon's Web post connect...right off that Site...

the 2007 vintage could itself vary greatly across the vineyards of England - a lot depends on the weather from now until harvest. The quality of the 2007 vintage is likely to be good but with only around 2m bottles of English wine being produced each year and its reputation now good and growing, there may not be enough to go round this year!  

Sounds like a Volume problem to me....Missouri I think puts out this much Wine....and it's not a Country.

And the BIGGEST vineyard in England.....250 Acres....WOW, now there some big players in Wine over there....

400 Vineyards, biggest is 250 Acres.....I seem to be wrong about the "Grapes" in Britain, but as the Site says, IT's Englands Best Kept Secret.   Even the Liquor stores don't know it. 

The fact remains,  just like California, Britain could grow "real" Wine if they had the sunshine they had in Medieval Times...The Medieval GW Boom times when British Wine wasn't a SECRET, and CO2 was King...Or was it George III ? 

Ok JayTee

And here is the JayTee problem.

Your original claim is that there is NO wine production in England.

Right?  So all of this subsequent volume talk is irrelevant.

You've proven your original assertion used to attack Leon to be wrong.

What's with all this other stuff?  You weren't debating about how much wine England makes, you were debating whether or not they even made it.

Leon showed you that they did.  You were wrong.  Give it up.

Gingerman.....I didn't know about the "Secret" production

In 15 years of buying Wine, I didn't have a Clue....I will have to thank you guys for bringing this to my attention, that there is some really Bad English wine still limping along in England.

Whatever "Victorius" celebration you and Leon want to plan, I will send along some English Wine to your victory party.........if I can find it, and if I'm not too embarassed asking "Where the hell is the English Wine ?" in the Liquor Store.  

Meanwhile, you guys are going to have to come along from the Dark side, and Acknowledge that 1500 years ago, around 560 AD, we had some REAL documented, Grape growing, Greenland naming, G F Warming going on, that is documented in historical Records, Temperature recordings from Monks, Ice cores from the Artic, and there wasn't ONE SUV to be found on the Planet.

That and that the Great Lakes were caused by Retreating Glacers, during the REALLY big M F GW times. 

Anyone one know if Russia is Producing Toyota's yet ? 

What good is a Free Press, if it is a False Press ?   David Foote  GoE

JayTee, It's actually not

JayTee,

It's actually not secret at all.  Anyone that knows the first thing about wine knows that England makes wine. 

In fact, I've tasted several delicious English wines (all white, haven't found a great red yet). 

How do you know that English wine is bad?  You didn't even know that it existed.  You should probably reserve judgement until you actually try some. 

So my recommendation to you is this.  Admit you were wrong about England not producing wine (meaning Leon was RIGHT) AND actually taste some English wine before deriding its quality.

The Mandatory "Admission" on English Wine

From Leon…The Original Issue..The Vikings named Greenland, Greenland to fool people into thinking it was hospitable. 

Leon is wrong. Proof is See vrwc13’s Post above 

My Post

France had a Wine Import embargo on England as part of recorded history

JayTee is Correct (or at least un-challenged so far)

  

The side Issue......My Postyou can't grow Grapes in England today it's too COLD

JayTee is  Incorrect  (applause) 

Add the word GOOD in front of Grapes and we've got a new argument .

 We’ll ignore the Volume / Quality issue due to climatic constraints, other than it causes the “Secret” production to be kept pretty well UN-Known, as opposed to the “embargo” days………unless you want to discuss Embargoes on Secret goods ?  

And I don’t hate Leon, I just don’t want him to grow up and produce an Al Gore Documentary.

 

So now you have a lovely Post from a English Wine Infidel to frame, that and ordering some English Wine at a Restaurant will get you an "are you Crazy ?" look from any Restaurant with a Wine List, and a very Un-Impressed Girl Friend at dinner gaging on bad Grapes.....if they can find the Secret English wine Stash.

Truth Monger...is this "courteous" enough ?

What good is a Free Press, if it is a False Press ?   David Foote  GoE

Jay Tee, Good post except

Jay Tee,

Good post except for one part.

Leon is correct in his assertion that the naming of Greenland involved trickery.

Erik the Red was forced to leave his homeland.  He settled in Greenland.  In order to attract more settlers, he called it Greenland, even though it wasn't very green (only the southern coast was green).

VRWC's post was based on false information.  The fact that Greenland was named Greenland to attract unwitting settlers to an inhospitable environment is common knowledge and anyone with even a cursory understanding of the history of Greenland will know this.

So to summarize:

Leon's Greenland Claim = Correct
JayTee's Enlgish Wine Claim = Wrong

In other words, Leon 2, JayTee 0.

Serge the Chartreuse

You know there was a little known Viking called Serge the Chartreuse.  He sailed and discovered Pinkland. 

Once on shore he declared it “Fabulous!” and there he and his band of “marry” men took refuge from the other Vikings who could not understand their need to wear parachute pants and leather. 

Later their settlement was dug up out side of San Francisco.

Any questions?      

The only thing you should feel when shooting insurgents is the rifle recoil.

 

Nobel must be turning in his grave

A Peace Prize give to a man who has been one of the most devisive in our time?!?

I don't care

that the members of the left-wing echo chamber spend all their time and money cheering for each other. The problem is that, just as with his Academy award, Gore will tout this as vindication of his crackbrained ideas, as if this had something -- anything -- to do with science.

Bush v Gore, take 2

The best headline evah, courtesy Scott Ott at Scrappleface:

Gore Wins Nobel Prize, High Court Gives It to Bush

LINK: http://www.scrapplef...

Excelsior!!

Firefighter:
Is that a Pig... bear... man?

Al Gore:
No stupid... It's Manbearpig.

Well at least he's in good

Well at least he's in good company......Yaseer and Hitler

Delicious

Awarding a Peace prize to someone who leads a war against science!

Well, this is the final

Well, this is the final nail in the coffin of the Peace Prize coffin. Credibility went right out the window with this.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

Morning bass... This joke

Morning bass...

This joke of a prize went out the window years and years ago...what did it for me was when Carter/Arafat got the dual prize.

I think that is how it went....

What an absolute leftist joke ...if they meaning the msm think anyone in their right mind takes any of this seriously they have got to be nuts.

Nobel Peace Prize and Algore....ROFLMAO!

Hey BT...know what you

Hey BT...know what you mean, girl. Give the peace prize to Carter, father of the modern Iran, and Arafat, a murderus thug. That really did wonders for the Nobel credibility, and now this Gore thing for telling lies. Really bumps Nobel up there with things like the Mickey Mouse Club.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

Ahem

I hate to do it.  Normally I like to be polite and reserved when disagreeing with you all, but this morning I am gleeful and I can say only:

 Hah!

Don't get too happy....

The Crapumentary is all propoganda and political indoctrination.

Check this out

 And I'm not sure I can say it as intelligently as you, but here goes.

 HAH!

Hi Piggy, Hah! Looks like

Hi Piggy, Hah! Looks like Gore and friends may have their oscars taken away now to.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

By a web-based think tank in

By a web-based think tank in New Zealand?  I'm sure they're very worried!

Miss Piggy, are you "gleeful" because you think this somehow

validates Algore? Can you really be that much a naif?

And so we see another

And so we see another victim of celebrity-worship who decides who to believe by how many awards someone has. Well, maybe the loss of those Oscars will get you to wake up and use that lump of matter in your head. In case you hadn't noticed, liberals love Gore's ramblings, and the Nobel prizes are handed out by who? That's right, liberals. I hope you don't honestly think they gave him this prize for promoting world peace in any way, shape, or form, because he hasn't.

http://www.rhjunior.... Great comics with a hefty dose of Christian and anti-nutjob goodness.

"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things near to you."  -Miyamoto Musashi

Actually, I decide whom to

Actually, I decide whom to believe based on how many scientists they have.

Scientists themselves often do the same thing...

It works about as well as trying to censor comedy-critics when your attempted comedy simply sucks.
JMR

Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul.

Yep, that's certainly the

Yep, that's certainly the way to do it: whoever has the most people agreeing with them must be right. Did you know the world suddenly became round when more people believed that than that it was flat? [/sarc] The "lemmings argument", as I like to term it, is no more reasonable than the celebrity argument. Even if the majority of informed climate scientists in the world sided with Gore (and I have yet to see proof that such is the case), that doesn't make them right. Try looking at the facts and making up your own mind instead of just accepting what people, who may be more interested in perpetuating a crisis than telling the truth, tell you.

http://www.rhjunior.... Great comics with a hefty dose of Christian and anti-nutjob goodness.
"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things near to you." -Miyamoto Musashi

With the announcement of Al

With the announcement of Al Gore's win the Disney Company has decided to re-release the movie Pete's Dragon.  Word out of Norway is that Dr. Terminus is the early favorite for the 2008 Nobel prize in Medicine.

"There are scandals that need to be addressed. Republicans address them, Democrats re-elect them." - Tom Delay

This is priceless. AGW is

This is priceless. AGW is falling apart. And Less Nobel gives Bore and, the people who brought us food for oil, a peace prize.

Too funny. 

"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT

Gore Declares War on Science, Wins Peace Prize

I was so hoping for an honest headline today :-)

MSM Deity ...

 Perhaps this is good, as once the REAL Truth about Global warming  becomes obvious to the most Causal Observer, NEVER AGAIN will the MSM be able to peddle their type of “DRAMA” on the Airways, political, Scientific, or otherwise, and the MSM will Fade into the Sunset along with the UN Council on Global Propaganda. 

When the BIG story of the “MSM Deity” predicting the Future on a Global Scale is found out to be a "MSM LIES" scenario , The following Definition, turns out to be…

Some deities are asserted to be the directors of time and fate itself, to be the givers of human law and morality, to be the ultimate judges of human worth and behavior, and to be the designers and creators of the Earth or the universe. Some of these gods have no power at all—they are simply worshipped.    

 

What good is a Free Press, if it is a False Press ?   David Foote  GoE

Some of these gods have no

Some of these gods have no power at all—they are simply worshipped.    

On their glacierless "high places?" 

  Ignorance is bliss. It's easier to repeat a mindless slogan than to do some actual research.

pbanks.......Yes

On their MSM TV platforms....overlooking the huddled masses...

wait a minute, It's "Sweating Masses".........but you'll have to wait till Summer to sweat again in the United States/Canada...Global Warming isn't Quite strong Enough to Warm the Northern Hemisphere during Winter.

Hmmmm....GW is pretty "weak" isn't it ?

 

What good is a Free Press, if it is a False Press ?   David Foote  GoE

Gore is God!!!!!

Well okay, if Bush is the worst president in history, then by a far greater margin, Gore is the most worthless, undeserving, fake, pious, self-serving, underhanded winner of the Dum-Bell Prize since its inception.

His enablers in the media

His enablers in the media make me sick. They never met a socialist they didn't like. Take the media away and Gore would just be a sad little footnote in American politics.

The Bottom Line

It is official: the Nobel Prize is a faith-based intitiative.

Riddle me this; if Gore and

Riddle me this; if Gore and the UN panel on climate change are so trumped tight in their science, to the point that 'issue' of AGW is a concensus and the debate is over, then why weren't they up for the Nobel Prize in Physics?  Its a simple question...............

Because they don't do their

Because they don't do their own research.  The IPCC does a little primary work and mostly analyzes other people's papers in order to draw larger conclusions.

Simple answer: you don't win the Nobel Prize in Physics for writing a review paper, no matter how fabulous it is.

Oscar redux

Believer

All right, so the initial oscar renege appears to have been a humorous dart at the SCOTUS handling of the Gore/Bush election. But there seems to be some validity to the link ASKING the Academy to rescind the award. 

Let's see if NB leaves this one up. I thought the original link from Drudge was legit.

http://www.worldnetd...

Gore's Peace Prize, The Silver Lining

Rivulets of tears streaming down Bill Bubba's face, seething with jealously, foot stomping, red in the face anger.....  Gore announcing..... Shrillary and Clintonistas scrambling into death stealth mode to protect her upcoming coronation.... hmmm......delicious imagery

Hmm

Maybe ALBORe can run, then canabalize the democratic ticket! With 4 High profile hopefulls (Billary, B. Hussein Osama, Jane Edwards, And ALbear) then the pie just gets smaller and smaller to who can pander more to the left, all the while Fred of Rudy will walk away with the election, Run Al, Run!

"Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought?…  

Ceteris paribus

 How the hell did Al get

 How the hell did Al get one before Bill, or even Hillary, for that matter?  This is an outrage!  The King of the World and The Smartest Woman in the World deserve better from their Leftie Loon Squad of European Weenies Fan Club- Look, Yasser Arafat and Jimmy Carter even got one!!!!  Come on, you're letting us down, over there!!!  How could you let down your heroes?  For shame, for shame!!!  Try again next year, Liberal Arse Kissers.

Anyone who says they support the troops but not the mission is a liar. 

Two more names...

...Nobel laureates Yasser Arafat, Jimmy Carter...and next year...PARIS HILTON!

(piece prize?)

Sunrise at sea; a breeze across the deck, salty spray tickles the face, the aroma of fresh coffee, stack gas, and haze-gray paint is in the air.  Another Navy day aboard ship as a Navy Chief...the perfect life! 

We NEED "Global" Warming ...

... the milder winters will SAVE LIVES - by the THOUSANDS (if not millions - over decades).

It will EXTEND GROWING SEASONS and provide more food for the world.

It will EXPAND ARABLE LAND and DECREASE THE DEMAND FOR HEATING OIL.

It will LOWER HEATING BILLS and INCREASE PRODUCTIVITY.

It would OPEN SEA ROUTES that would LOWER COSTS FOR GOODS ... all of this and more IF "global" warming really existed.

Why in the hell is the global idiot, Al Gore, TRYING TO STOP IT?!!