And now we have Jonathan Turley, joining us from Bizzarro World...

Turdley went 100% moonbat right before the 2004 election. I lost all respect for his opinions on anything right then. When he shows, I switch channels.

If Abrams had any integrity (I know, it's a stretch, but go with me here), he should have immediately challenged Turley on his claim. Not only do the numbers fail to support him, but it was Gore who kept going back to court for more recounts. Not even the dishonest MSM at the time could twist a Gore victory out of the numbers.

Turley, I say not only "Give it up", but "Grow up". It's like he's still pouting over not getting a favorite toy for Christmas 20 years ago.

When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.

"[Gore] has nobody to blame but himself" .. indeed an interesting observation; one the liberal media should remember just prior to finally letting go. 

Speaking of the NY Times - a few reporters with a bit of integrity in the moment of historically important court processes did notice a bit more than the usual conversation out on the street.

The Florida Supreme Court decision, and the events surrounding the decision, which ordered up the state wide recounts and which led Bush to successfully appeal to the US Supreme court, is really the tale of all tales and as such I find it more than amusing that these events find such little attention.

My recollection is rather simple (as I look for the transcript of the arguments). Gore had never asked the courts for a manual state wide recount. Sauls was out on a limb. David Boies, for Gore, argued to the Fl SC, that they, notably in the process of overturning Saul's order for a state wide recount, had nothing in front of them which gave them the path for ordering up their own invented out of thin air recount. The FL SC asked Boies if Gore wanted the statewide recount - Boies told the justices that doing that would be unfair. How often do we expect to see Jonathan Turley bringing that juicy little bit up in the conversation? To the best of my ability to recall the arguments; Boies advised the court that the US SC would surely strike it down, if they ordered the statewide recounts.

Like a pack of lost hungry wolves, the Florida Supremes  rejected Boies advice and did it anyway. And in the end, Bioes was spot on - the US Supreme Court didn't like it. Big surprise - Gore knew it all along.

An interesting piece: CONTESTING THE VOTE: STRATEGY; Gore's Failure to Ask for Manual Statewide Recount May Have Been Critical Mistake. A few excerpts:

..and Mr. Gore's lawyers never once pursued it in court even though they were invited to do just that during oral arguments before the Florida Supreme Court. Mr. Boies said the vice president would ''accept'' a statewide recount, but added, ''We are not urging that upon the court.''

[..] 

 . In a question to Mr. Boies, Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist asked whether the Florida Supreme Court ordered a broader recount than Mr. Gore requested because the Florida court ''thought that to do just what he wanted would be unfair.'' ''I think that's right,'' Mr. Boies replied.

So in the end, the US Supreme Court held to that which Gore believed - that the statewide recounts as dreamed up by the Florida Supreme Court were not fair. Gore never wanted them anyway - and when actually counted, Bush won anyway, so what's Turley talking about - anyway?

Thank you Mr. Hube for correcting this again. Unfortunately, I saw Little Dan's foray into the world of make-believe last night and it made me angry.

The "Gore won in 2000" fable is one of the lies liberals like to tell themselves. They think that if they repeat the lie enough times, it becomes true. Thank you for correcting them.

For those of us that lived through that election, Turley either has a short memory or hasn't read enough about Florida in 2000.  The only way Gore could have won Florida was to void Florida election law, in place, during the election.  Every scenerio the media came up with, that Gore could have won with, required existing law to be circumvented.

The Broward canvassing board had already rewritten their rules in an attempt to get Gore more votes.  The rules, in place, regarding hanging chads, were revamped shortly after their recount began because things weren't changing enough, despite the protests of Republicans, because the Democrats controlled the board.

In Palm Beach County, the Democrats put so much pressure on Theresa LePore that, after the election, she changed her voter registration to independent.  I'm assuming that the major pusher was Rob Wexler, but there were some very partisan democrats on the board, Carol Roberts, who most of you wouldn't know, but she was the one whose son was in the PB County prosecutors office when Limbaugh had his drug problem and she made a statement that he son was going to get him.  Really cute, eh?  

Anyway, the Democrats, with the help of the Florida Supreme Court, attempted to rewrite Florida election law and, because of the Federal Courts, they failed.  Too bad for Gore that the only way he could win was to break the law.  

Democrats: Stuck on Stupid since 2000.

typical liberal loser cry baby. bush won, learn to count.

...side of politics.  I voted for (I apologize in advance) Nader. 

(Thank you for indulging me, I feel better getting that off my chest.)

But what I remember was the Gore side throwing all reason and honor to the wind to find those 500 or so votes (out of millions) they needed to win.

They asked for and got recounts in a few liberal counties where they thought they would get the most help (a bogus and unfair move in a statewide election).

They tried to disqualify overseas ballots from our service men and women based on some lame technicalities.

They tried to blame Bush and the republicans for the less than perfect ballots  and voting machines - almost all of which were designed and run by democrats.

They got the Florida Supremes to nullify the written election laws (and the constitution) of Florida.

Then, most disgustingly, they refused to lose like grown-ups, and have been pushing the myth of a stolen election ever since.

Ironic, since THEY were the ones who were doing all the stealing!

Remember how the normal transition of government was delayed for a couple of months while Gore battled to "find" more votes?

I wonder if those two months could have been put to good use in finding out about and preventing 9/11?

Dan Abrams!!  You go an arrange an interview of Justice Scalia by Mr. Turley.  Mr. Turley you can interview the good Justice for one hour.  Take your best shot moron; get every stupid observation you have expressed, regarding the 2000 election, on the table, and let the good Justice kick your moron buttocks all over the studio. Once that's done Mr. Turley, go back in your little hole and shut the hell up.