There was recently a brief flurry of a few incorrect labels of [former] NY Governor Eliot Spitzer -- noting him as a Republican. Perhaps the most inventive excuse for that mistake comes from Reuters via Newsbusters reader Doug M. Doug had sent an e-mail inquiring as to why Spitzer was mislabeled in this story. Here's the response from Reuters' Vincent Baldino:
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you but I wanted to look into
this. Our online photo editor just got back to me and confirmed that the (R) means that he is the person on the right side of the photo. It has nothing to do with democrat or republican.
Take a look at the picture and corresponding caption again. Being that only Spitzer and his wife are in the photo, why is it even necessary to indicate that the former governor is "on the right"? Doesn't "wife" denote "female?" Where else could Eliot Spitzer possibly be but on the right? In addition, wouldn't "(at right)" be the common method of indicating direction in a photograph?
You be the judge on whether Reuters' excuse holds any water.



















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This _could_ happen.
March 18, 2008 - 14:56 ET by balboaThis _could_ happen. Someone first writes the caption as "Eliot Spitzer (R), blah blah blah," not mentioning the wife. Then someone comes back later and says "Gotta say that's his wife" and adds that part, not really paying attention to the earlier (R), and inadvertently leaving it in.
Why haven't they
March 18, 2008 - 15:08 ET by D. S. Hube... since corrected it, balboa?
Probably because they think
March 18, 2008 - 15:14 ET by balboaProbably because they think it's technically not wrong.
Maybe I should've
March 18, 2008 - 15:27 ET by D. S. Hubesaid "modified," balboa?
You're asking us to assume a lot. Well, Reuters is, at any rate. Occam's Razor for me.
Guess I'm on the other side
March 18, 2008 - 15:30 ET by balboaGuess I'm on the other side of that same razor. :-)
Oh yeah..I see your
March 18, 2008 - 15:20 ET by ConservativeRexOh yeah..I see your logic..then what they really did was not print the (L) to the right of his wife...ok, it's all clear now.
Where's the flag?????
March 18, 2008 - 15:25 ET by Mica the MagnificentWhere's the flag????
Someone said there's an American flag in the picture????
Why won't they identify where the flag is?????
Bullshit - only two explanations
March 18, 2008 - 17:55 ET by PopularTech1. It was an honest mistake, the person writing the caption really believed Spitzer was Republican and from the media blackout of him being a Democrat I am not surprised.
2. It was intentional to smear Republicans
I have read thousands of captions and they never use (R) to symbolized someone on the right, that is bullshit.
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Well of course _you_ think
March 18, 2008 - 18:29 ET by balboaWell of course _you_ think that.
I have all the proof I need
March 18, 2008 - 15:01 ET by YahooWatcherReuters, and the rest of the MSM, are lying idiots.
Excuses excuses....that's
March 18, 2008 - 15:08 ET by bigtimerExcuses excuses....that's all you ever hear from the left.
Talk about obvious intentional obfuscation....here is a great article, the only person with named party affiliation is a republican.
I was mad as heck...BTW, I haven't heard a word about any of this in the msm to-boot, if any of this was reversed it would of been news.
The point is to make you
March 18, 2008 - 15:33 ET by ChaitealoverThe point is to make you believe that, if his brother-in-law is a Republican, he must be one, too. And as someone mentioned recently, it's harder to find Democrat's misdeeds when doing a Google or Lexus/Nexus search if the party designation is not in the story.
Chai
“...Bury me on my face,” said Diogenes; and when he was asked why, he replied, “Because in a little while everything will be turned upside down.”
Chai... LOL...exactly! I
March 18, 2008 - 15:50 ET by bigtimerChai...
LOL...exactly!
If the article hadn't mentioned Hill canceling a fund-raiser for her at his house you wouldn't of known unless you were a political junkie and are used to the fact of the obvious omission of party affiliation most times anyway... that if there is no mention of party, it must be a Dem.
Gee, I wouldn't have
March 18, 2008 - 15:11 ET by mattmGee, I wouldn't have guessed that. Without that helpful hint I might have thought the woman on the left was Mr. Spitzer....
What a Baldino-faced liar!
weather or not that the
March 18, 2008 - 15:09 ET by crsheddweather or not that the 'wife' was mentioned, correct caption would still identify the position of the person being spoken of.
although, i believe that the 'r' should have been lower case.
Yahoo/AP - Kwame Kilpatrick: Democrat or Not
March 18, 2008 - 15:13 ET by YahooWatcherYou'll never know from this article:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080318/ap_on_re_us/detroit_mayor
Reuters (S - for sorry)
March 18, 2008 - 15:13 ET by acumenSo why wasn't there a (L) after identifying the person on the left's name?
Interesting exchange
March 18, 2008 - 15:31 ET by ddmAs the originator of the emails, it was an interesting exchange, and I have to give them credit for responding. Not surprising, they believe it.
See?
March 18, 2008 - 15:39 ET by Roger the ShrubberTold yinz it was innocent and not media bias.
I am flattered Reuters reads Newsbusters and collects excuses from us...
I should demand some sort of compensation.
LOL!
March 18, 2008 - 15:48 ET by D. S. HubeNice work, Rog! Quite the foreshadower! But I still don't buy the innocence claim. The paper trail, so to speak, is too long.
Did they take the story down?
March 18, 2008 - 15:55 ET by Republican_by_DefaultI've tried the link and it's dead. Maybe they're fixing it.
female?
March 18, 2008 - 16:08 ET by CurtYou asked "Doesn't 'wife' denote 'female?'"
The answer is not necessarily in our society, especially in Massachusetts - the gay State.
Curt
Here's the response from Reuters' Vincent Baldino (L)
March 18, 2008 - 17:02 ET by Gary HallHere's the response from Reuters' Vincent Baldino (L).
Could mean liberal?
If the (R) was for "right," then why did they not put an (L) to the right of wife Silda Wall Spitzer's name.
Such as: New York Governor Eliot Spitzer (R) stands next to his wife Silda Wall Spitzer (L) as he announces his resignation..
Alternatively, they could have said:
New York Governor Eliot Spitzer stands to the right of his wife Silda Wall Spitzer as he announces his resignation..
LOL.
March 18, 2008 - 17:03 ET by c5thenDid the last sentence read: "Yeah, that's the ticket!"?
That would beg me to ask them what a (D) signified when placed after a person's name...Dumb? Doofus? Deranged?
Just wait till all the kids in government schools start learning about the history of the corrupt and hypocritical Republican governor of NY Elliot Spitzer in a few years.
The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.
This is a stretch
March 18, 2008 - 17:06 ET by meteor79Perhaps it would be useful to take a look at some other captions from this website:
http://www.theusdail...
and
http://www.theusdail...
Notice that the pics in the above links refer to a person on the left of the photos by inserting a "(L)" after their names. Also, notice that when the second person in the photos is referred to, a "(R)" isn't used. The "(R)" isn't included because it is obvious who the other person is since there are only two people in the photos. So, it appears that the Spitzer photo caption is consistent with other captions on the site. I also noticed that, when party affiliation is referred to on this site, the state abbreviation is inserted after the R or D, so it looks like (R-IL) or (D-NV). Thus, the Reuter's "excuse" is credible and it is a baseless claim they were purposefully trying to paint Spitzer as a Republican.
How incredibly pathetic.
March 18, 2008 - 17:30 ET by Army BratHow dishonest can you get? And just how stupid do they think their readers are? Oh...never mind....
Happy Trails...
what?
March 18, 2008 - 18:13 ET by meteor79Just curious... what specifically did you find dishonest about the above post?
We shouldn't have to waste our time
March 18, 2008 - 18:30 ET by ThisnThat... but, since you asked -- you selected two examples, each with two men together that most people couldn't pick out of a lineup.
The Spitzer photo includes him AND HIS WIFE. There is no confusion here for normal people.
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ThisnThat...Go to the
March 18, 2008 - 20:21 ET by JerThisnThat...Go to the website linked in the main blog and by meteor and check out some of the photos. In most, even where the identities are obvious, the L or R designations are still used. For example...Cheney and Petraeous, Condi Rice and Putin, etc.
It demolishes the Spitzer/Republican conspiracy theory...at least in this case.
Jer
Not the post....
March 19, 2008 - 16:28 ET by Army Bratthe lame excuse Reuters provides for the (R)
Happy Trails...
Thanks
March 18, 2008 - 19:18 ET by D. S. Hubemeteor: Thanks for noting that. For me, yes, that makes Reuters' "excuse" a bit more credible. However, it indicates a definite degree of sloppiness as 1) again, who couldn't tell the difference between Spitzer and his wife as they were the only two in the photo, and 2) they obviously don't know their American audience very well, then, as the labeling they used is guaranteed to cause confusion among US readers.
And considering Reuters' track record of bias, you'd think they'd be especially careful of these "little" details.
I agree
March 18, 2008 - 19:59 ET by meteor79I totally agree. Definitely sloppy, but I don't think they purposefully tried to distort anything.
D. S. Hube...If you go to
March 18, 2008 - 20:12 ET by JerD. S. Hube...If you go to the USDaily website that meteor linked and click on the articles under "Politics", for example, you will find that the majority of the photos containing more than one individual will display L "left" and R "right" [and sometimes C "center"] designations--even where the identities are obvious.
I fail to see any media bias here.
Jer
Indeed....
March 19, 2008 - 16:30 ET by Army BratReuters is not biased at all...in any way shape or form.
Aaaagghhh....sorry...just got hit by lightning for lying for those scumbags.
Happy Trails...
I knew they were going to say that
March 18, 2008 - 17:57 ET by Amanda JusticeI just knew Reuters was going to use the "person on the right" tag, but I checked all US versions of the Yahoo story that day, and NONE of them used the (R) after Spitzer's name except in the case noted. I also saw many other AFP photos that ran on Yahoo where there were only Mr. & Mrs. Spitzer in the photo, and none of them used an (R) to incidate Eliot was on the right. By the way.. who in their right mind would wonder "gee, I wonder which one is Eliot?"
This is clearly how AFP & Reuters wanted the European Yahoo readers to THINK Spitzer was a Republican. I don't buy their excuse at all, but I saw it coming.
It's time to give Reuters a break, here
March 18, 2008 - 18:26 ET by ThisnThat"Sorry for the delay in getting back to you but I wanted to look into this".
This poor guy. Do you know how long it took for him to look up the word "Right" and then get his editor's permission to actually use the word "Right" all by itself, rather than Right-Wing, or Radical-Right, or Religious-Right?
That's what caused the delay, and the guy is probably suffering a nervious breakdown, so give him a break.
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Very Sloppy
March 18, 2008 - 20:27 ET by CobraMan"New York Governor Eliot Spitzer (R) stands next to his wife Silda Wall Spitzer as he announces his resignation at his office in New York March 12, 2008. "
The (R) may not have been intended to signify Mr. Spitzer's political affiliation and was meant to indicate which person is actually Mr. Spitzer, just as they state. In that case, someone did a very sloppy job of editing as the caption already indicated both Mr. Spitzer and his wife. Did the writer and/or editor actually expect people to be confused as to who is the Mr. and who is the Mrs. in this photograph?
It must be noted that there are only TWO people pictured and both are identified directly by name. Mrs. Spitzer is further identified as the wife. If we are to accept the explanation, then it’s obvious that ether someone thinks that Mr. Spitzer and his wife are transvestites and that it is necessary to indicate which is Mr. Spitzer, or they think ordinary people are too stupid to be able to distinguish between the two based on their apparent genders.
This is one of the most
March 19, 2008 - 23:39 ET by CutterThis is one of the most patently absurd things I have read in quite some time.
Thanks for the laugh, Reuters.