McFadden moderated a debate that tried to answer the question, "Are we born to cheat?" but appeared to mock Pastor Ed Young's responses whenever she could.
The proponents of adultery who appeared on the panel included Jenny Block, an author and participant in an open marriage, and Noel Biderman, the president and CEO of Ashley Madison, a Web site designed to help people begin extra-marital affairs. To be fair, Block and Biderman did face some tough questioning about their views, but they did not receive the same derision McFadden levied at Young.
McFadden's question about intolerance came after an exchange in which Young asserted that an open marriage is adultery "in the eyes of God" and that marriage was ordained in Scripture by God. Block attempted to refute Young's statement and argued he was talking about religious marriages when not all marriages are religious.
McFadden then asked Young, "But do you think that what you think applies to everybody?" and appeared surprised by his affirmative answer. After Block labeled Young's claims "preposterous," McFadden asked Young, "Are you feeling a little intolerant?" Her follow up question to that was, "Is Jenny going to hell?"
Prior to that exchange, McFadden had already mocked Young's belief in the literal meaning of Scripture verse Matthew 5:28 which states in part, "Whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart."
CYNTHIA MCFADDEN, anchor: Okay, but I just want to be clear. So. You look at somebody. You say, wow, he is something. Have I committed a sin yet?
ED YOUNG, wants God back in the bedroom: No.
MCFADDEN Wow, I'd like to sleep with that person, I'm not going to do it, but wow, that's -- am I sinning now?
YOUNG: Yeah. Uh-huh. Yes.
MCFADDEN: Just want to be sure about that.
YOUNG: Because the way that [laughs]--
MCFADDEN: I'm so sorry I came to Dallas.
YOUNG: Yeah, we all, but we've all failed in that realm.
MCFADDEN: Okay. Hold it, is this an honest audience? You're honest, right? I want to see a show of hands -- who's ever had the thought? I'm not saying you've acted on it. Who's ever had the thought? All right. Sinners!
Young's belief, as conservative as it is, is no more extreme than what Block had to say about keeping the spark alive in a marriage. "You read any books about recharging the marriage, often they recommend that you think about other people. They recommend that you use other fantasies, that you look at pornography," she argued. "I mean, it's out there. These are doctors and psychologists, these are people who study science and who say this is how we can re ... - so I'm not sure it should be something we should be overcoming."
Yet McFadden made no attempt to point out the extremity of Block's stance or the extreme leap of logic it took for Biderman to argue:
What I hear all the time is, why don't you leave your relationship? That's the selfish ability. Walking away from your family to pursue your own sexual needs, that's the selfish act. What I hear from my members all the time is they're in sexless relationships. They're not getting the physically intimacy they want, they've tried talking about it. And so rather than leave they would rather to do this. If you can't understand people in those positions, I don't really know what kind of pastor you are because they're suffering, they're feeling true pain. Loneliness is a painful thing. It causes people to act. There's a biological need to change your life when you're feeling lonely. You know what's really interesting, from my perspective, infidelity can save your marriage.
In fact, McFadden appeared to back up Biderman's claim by providing the statistic that "56 percent of men who cheat say they're in happy marriages."
As for Young's citation of a University of Chicago study that found "evangelical women are the most sexually satisfied women out there" and that "they also have more orgasms than other woman," McFadden simply laughed, "That's good for business" and questioned why that would be.
McFadden did say to Biderman, about the values he is teaching his two children, "You have to say you're putting bread on the table by encouraging other people to have affairs." She also asked him, "Why advertise?" when he claimed it's not his 30 second commercials that cause people to cheat on their spouses.
Young spoke of the fall-out of adultery. "No doubt adultery has its kicks, but it has some wicked Chuck Norris-esque kick backs and I deal, I deal with the carnage, I deal - I deal with the broken homes. I deal with the children whose lives are up for grabs because someone is selfish enough to step outside the marriage and do what they want to do."
But the true pain of adultery was revealed in the testimonies of two young audience members. "I don't think that how you all say that it does help children, that their parents stay together, and they're cheating on each other. It doesn't help. Because I went through it," stated Greg about his father's affair. "The child does not feel good about it and the child would rather the parents not be together than for one just to sit there and be hurt."
"I'm a teenager. I came from a place where I was raised by my brother at the age of 16 because one of my parents decided to cheat on the other one. I've had so much anger, so much rage, I've forgiven my parents," said another young audience member. "I love them but seriously you probably don't know what it feels like to be a child whose parents are torn apart because of adultery. And I don't understand why you continue to encourage that."
Block expressed her sympathies to the young woman, but failed to connect what her own relationships were doing to her 10-year-old daughter, even after McFadden questioned her about it.
—Colleen Raezler is a research assistant at the Culture and Media Institute




















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Wut?
September 25, 2009 - 15:53 ET by someloudthunderWhat? I don't even. Really? I'm just, just lost for words. Her argument makes no sense. Even if you take God out of the equation there's the human element and HUMANS in love don't like it when you screw someone else. That's LOGIC.
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I didn't realize you
September 25, 2009 - 16:03 ET by MightyMouthI didn't realize you could go to the court house and get a Marriage License or an "Open Marrage License". Of course I live in Texass and we do things a little differently here!
"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
Intolerance of intolerance
September 25, 2009 - 15:58 ET by mattmIntolerance of intolerance is intolerance.
You!
September 25, 2009 - 15:59 ET by someloudthunderYou there! Quit being intolerant of her intolerance towards him. Oh wait. Now I'm being intolerant.
In the game of spamming-intolerance. No one wins. :(
Opponents of Adultery...
September 25, 2009 - 16:13 ET by Corny_McPoo...are most assuredly racists.
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I was one of those kids,
September 25, 2009 - 16:31 ET by HockeyKidI was one of those kids, too. These people are evil, plain and simple.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
liberal agenda
September 25, 2009 - 17:32 ET by cajun2I posted on 9-22 this would be the next wave of attack on Americ an traditions and values. No, I am not psychic nor bragging. It is simple logic. Make people dependant, mock values and traditions, lower expectations, remove or distort morality and you have chaos. This gives the far left justification to go beyond what is considered humane. They will then justify whatever means they choose because they have our best interest in mind. And we are stupid so they must decide for us. First, everyone who disagrees with them is a racist. Then attack religion except Muslims of course. We must appear to be tolerant. This is how it starts. The war has begun.
I really need to change my
September 25, 2009 - 17:35 ET by Kat Outta the BagI really need to change my screen name to Alice Beyond the Looking Glass because more and more that's how this world is feeling to me. Everything is just plain backwards now! Remember when Christians used to be the good people? Geez...
Intolerance vs. hypocrisy
September 25, 2009 - 19:45 ET by ChaitealoverThe pastor is a man of God, who believes the Bible is God's Word.
The Bible states "You shall not commit adultery" [Exodus 20:14]. Sin is disobeying God.
Therefore, if the pastor tolerated sin, he would be disobeying God. That sounds like a foolish position for a man of God to take, unless he's a hypocrite. It doesn't sound like he is so, of course he would be intolerant of adultery.
Chai
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September 25, 2009 - 20:17 ET by BuffNBone"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"
Obviously, Cynthia is looking
September 25, 2009 - 21:23 ET by Willis_Leon_Johnsonfor any way she can justify spending more time with her legs in the air with anybody but her husband.
As long as there are people willing to hold THEIR HIGHER STANDARDS up for the world to see, she can't justify the "if it feels good, do it" mentality that she longs for.
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It's The Karma, Stupid
September 25, 2009 - 22:22 ET by rammingspeedForget the religious component. We're considering the evil of betrayl, of cheating on the one you "love." The shattered lives from that activity - whether you get formal and invoke marriage and God or not - are the reasons why adultery, or cheating one to whom you've expressed your love and devotion, is a horrible, horrible thing. The pain caused by the cheater is the "mortal sin" they take with them as they leave. And since everyone eventually gets kicked in the teeth this way, that demonstrates the reaping and sowing that Karma-ites espouse.
Shouldn't the question of adultry be directed
September 26, 2009 - 00:26 ET by caiobabeTOWARD A POLITICIAN??? (not a pastor)
After all, they are the ones that are thrust into the limelight and try to justify it when they get caught. And most time they still get to serve in their postion!!!
After all, this has been one of the longest running sins committed since the dawn of man and woman relations and it seems that Hollywood, politicians and people that consider themselves to be GAY get away with it in society.
Shouldn't the question of adultry be directed
September 26, 2009 - 00:26 ET by caiobabeTOWARD A POLITICIAN??? (not a pastor)
After all, they are the ones that are thrust into the limelight and try to justify it when they get caught. And most time they still get to serve in their postion!!!
After all, this has been one of the longest running sins committed since the dawn of man and woman relations and it seems that Hollywood, politicians and people that consider themselves to be GAY get away with it in society.
The only thing liberals are
September 26, 2009 - 02:02 ET by deerjerkydaveThe only thing liberals are liberal about is sex, drugs, and abortion. Other than that they want to control every inch of your life. So far they are 90% there.
DJD
September 26, 2009 - 02:12 ET by MrShyGreat!! Well, I mean, what you're saying is not so great -- sort of sad, even -- but how you said it is. :)
I have never seen anything
September 26, 2009 - 09:00 ET by RR GOPI have never seen anything good come of adultery.
I do think it would be dishonest for someone to say that each person can be attracted to only one other person in the entire world. But, that being said, one relationship is more than enough to deal with for anybody, so what makes someone think they can handle more than one?
The grass is rarely greener on the other side of the fence. The more prudent need to ask themselves, "What so's screwed up about this person that they would knowingly engage in an adulterous relationship with me?" Too many people ignore their built in alarms.
If God had intended us to be polygamous, then we would be, and everything would work out fine. But, obviously, this is not the case.
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Oh Honey....
September 27, 2009 - 21:12 ET by GecksI know you're trying, but you just don't do it for me anymore, so I think of (insert name here) while were being intimate!.
Yeah, that'll go over big with my man. (Snark)
If you are not happy in a realtionship, you have EVERY obligation to talk to your mate so that you both can try and work it out. You never know, he/she might be feeling the same way.
Gecks
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