Why Has America Rejected Obama-care? NYTimes Blames Karl Rove Ads, Conservative Commentators
The New York Times is disturbed that the blue-collar folks of Pennsylvania haven't swallowed Obama-care. Reporter Abby Goodnough blames conservative ad campaigns for convincing gullible citizens while suggesting the facts are on the side of Obama-care supporters, while opponents harbor "resentments and dark predictions." From the front of Thursday's National section, "Opinion of Health Care Law Reflects Ad Spending":
Erika Losse is precisely the kind of person President Obama’s signature health care law is intended to help. She has no health insurance. She relies on her mother to buy her a yearly checkup as a Christmas gift, and she pays out of her own pocket for the rest of her medical care, including $1,250 for a recent ultrasound.
But Ms. Losse, 33, a part-time worker at a bagel shop, is no fan of the law, which will require millions of uninsured Americans like herself to get health coverage by 2014. Never mind that Ms. Losse, who makes less than $35,000 a year, would probably qualify for subsidized insurance under the law.
“I’m positive I can’t afford it,” she said.
A Supreme Court ruling on the constitutionality of the health care law is expected any day now, but even if the Obama administration wins in the nation’s highest court, most evidence suggests it has lost miserably in the court of public opinion. National polls have consistently found the health care law has far more enemies than friends, including a recent New York Times/CBS News poll that found more than two-thirds of Americans hope the court will overturn some or all of it.
Instead of considering that Americans might be rejecting still more federal intrusion into health care, Goodnough points the finger at conservative ad campaigns, including money spent by the paper's favorite enemy Karl Rove.
That success may stem in large part from more than $200 million in advertising spending by an array of conservative groups, from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce ($27 million) to Karl Rove’s Crossroads GPS ($18 million), which includes the billionaire Sheldon Adelson among its donors, and the American Action Network ($9 million), founded by Fred V. Malek, an investor and prominent Republican fund-raiser.
In all, about $235 million has been spent on ads attacking the law since its passage in March 2010, according to a recent survey by Kantar Media’s Campaign Media Analysis Group. Only $69 million has been spent on advertising supporting it. Just $700,000 of that comes from the Obama campaign, and none of its ads mentioning the law are currently being broadcast, said Elizabeth Wilner, vice president of the Campaign Media Analysis Group. “It explains, in a nutshell, why polling shows attitudes about the law to be at best mixed,” she said.
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Here in the suburbs of Philadelphia, which, according to the Campaign Media Analysis Group, is one of the top five media markets for ad spending against the health care law, it is apparent how such messaging is playing out. (The other top markets are Orlando, Fla.; Tampa, Fla.; Pittsburgh; and Denver, all in swing states.) In interviews with about two dozen residents who were mostly opposed to the law, certain worries, resentments and dark predictions about it came up time and again.
Nearly everyone said the nation could not afford the law’s goal of insuring about 30 million Americans, mostly through a vast expansion of the Medicaid program and federal subsidies to help others who cannot afford to buy coverage on their own. A striking number of people also said the law would limit patient choices and lead to rationing of care -- a fear that has been stoked by conservative lawmakers, talk-radio hosts and commentators on networks like Fox, in addition to the political action committees that have run ads attacking the law.
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[Businessman Richard] Tems also offered grim predictions about what might transpire under the law -- citing, for example, the death in 2009 of the actress Natasha Richardson, who suffered a brain injury while skiing in Canada. Repeating what some conservative commentators have said, he theorized that Ms. Richardson died because she did not have fast access to the care she needed under Canada’s government-run health care system.
Goodnough injected Obama-care talking points and concluded with one of the few supporters of the law accusing opponents of willful ignorance.
[Cindy McMahon and Debbie Zimmerman] would probably qualify for subsidized insurance under the law, but since the subsidies would come in the form of tax credits, Ms. Zimmerman said they would be cold comfort. “Even if they gave you tax credits,” she said, “you couldn’t get that until April. What are you going to do the rest of the year?”
(In fact, people who qualify for the credits would not have to wait until filing their taxes to receive them under the law.)
Mr. Schiff’s wife, Sandy -- like him a retiree and registered Democrat who thinks the law does not go far enough -- said she thought many Americans were not interested in figuring out how it would work.
“A lot of people say, ‘Don’t confuse me with the facts,’ “ Ms. Schiff said. “It’s an emotional issue.”
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Or maybe...
Submitted by c5then on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 2:47pm.
It has something to do with the fact that it unconstitutionally forces people to purchase a particular product whether they want to or not. It might also have something to do with the fact that it was rammed through Congress without an actual vote as Nanny Pelosi told us they had to pass it so they could find out what was in it, thus proving that they didn't know and still don't to this day.
Madison and Jefferson and Franklin built a Republic - Roberts killed it!
Yeah, I can't go an hour without seeing a Karl Rove ad.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 2:48pm.
LOL.
To those of us who have never seen a Rove add
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 2:52pm.
Must just be plain ol common sense!
Yet, I managed to hold steady in the face of propaganda
Submitted by JeffC... on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 3:32pm.
They've got the New York Times, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, The Washington Post, and all the people each of those media outlet drag in to tell us how wonderful ObamaCare is and how we have to pass it to see what's in it, with minimal or no opposing view. Yet, I still don't want it.
I don't remember any Rove ads, either. Maybe Rove wasn't smart enough to buy ad time during "The Venture Bros."
And they call me too dumb to know what's good for me. I'll think about that as I get back to my job working on the processors that will be in the smartphones and tablets you buy in 2014.
Because.....
Submitted by jon_torlin on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 2:55pm.
Because we knew what was in it before it got passed.
-Jon
Dear Abby, you missed one
Submitted by inquiringmind on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 3:02pm.
Dear Abby, you missed one little point. the Supreme court is about to rule the Obamacare law unconstitutional and the larger percentage of Americans are smart enough to understand that.
Whiners!
Submitted by IdahoJim on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 3:11pm.
Don't these ignorant opponents know that Obamacare is good for them too? Or are they so obsessed with personal freedom and liberty that they are blind to the advantages of government run health care?
Somebody needs to sit these opponents down and explain the them the wonders of socialist living. The joy of giving up their own ambitions and instead work for the betterment of the others? Explain to them that productive jobs are crass and reek of materialism. That their yin and yang would be better soothed by mandatory, government directed selfless service to others?
I must stop. I'm beginning to gag.
IdahoJim
http://idahoandy.net
LOL!
Submitted by Rukus on Fri, 06/22/2012 - 9:12am.
Awesome!
Talk like a troll
Submitted by GW on Fri, 06/22/2012 - 1:45pm.
I'm with you. A few Fridays ago, I started a topic on the open thread that invited people to "Talk like a troll". I got one taker. I have to admit that thinking like a troll hurt my brain. You did a much better job than I did and your post is a lot funnier.
Uh, you WERE kidding, right?
I was kidding
Submitted by IdahoJim on Fri, 06/22/2012 - 3:10pm.
Right up to the point that nausea set in. I was not kidding about that.
Thinking like a troll is painful. No wonder they are always in a bad mood.
IdahoJim
http://idahoandy.net
I can't wait...
Submitted by c5then on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 3:20pm.
For the NYT articles that come out in November when America rejects Obama.
Madison and Jefferson and Franklin built a Republic - Roberts killed it!
Agreed
Submitted by Galvanic on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 4:21pm.
Some of the excuses we've already seen emerge --
"Americans are dumber now then they used to be." - retiring Congressman Gary Ackerman (D-NY)
"The Administration did not adequately communicate all the benefits of Obamacare to the public." - various MSMers, referring to the 2500+ page Affordable Care Act.
"Republican partisanship undermined the final passage of the bill." -- Pelosi and others.
"Tea Baggers obstructed progress on the President's centrist agenda in order to bring him down." -- MSMers; Axelrod
and last but not least --
"Racist Tea Baggers resented the fact that a black man was President and would not bow and scrape to them." -- Sharpton, Dyson, Jackson, Harris-Perry, Smiley, Cornel West, Jeremiah Wright, Maxine Waters, Elijah Cummins, Louis Farrakhan, et al
Where is the money for all this going to come from?
Submitted by Scott @ Engage ... on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 3:30pm.
If Medicare is running out of money, how can putting more people on the government's bill going to be any different? The 2012 Trustee's Report reports the exhaustion of Medicare's trust fund reserves in 2024 (http://1.usa.gov/Kg5KuF). So, where is the money coming from?
Can't wait...
Submitted by BBallleaper on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 3:31pm.
For this lib nitwit to get the word from Barry that the cancer drug she needs is too expensive and that Barry suggests she simply die and reduce the medical load!
Of Course
Submitted by John21 on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 3:37pm.
Of Course, they blame anyone not attached to the Incompetent administration currently in the White House. The Kool-Aid and keepers stop them from asking any intelligent questions that may embarrass their boss.
The fact that it is clearly unconstitutional is not a valid argument to an Obama Public Relations firm like the NYT.
The fact that it will not provide the benefits that it was advertised to provide is not pertinent to a Obama Public Relations firm like the NYT.
The fact that it will cost much more than original sold at is inconsequential to a Public Relations firm like the NYT.
The fact that it is clearly a very badly written policy is not a negative statement to the Obama Public Relations firm like the NYT.
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Ugh
Submitted by Unsane on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 3:47pm.
Yeah, it was the advertising, and not the fact that I, along with everyone else, are really better off paying for their doctors all by themselves, and that the only people who should be involved in medical decisions should be the docs and the patients.
And I am sick of people whining about how medical costs are increasing and how we should bring them down. Has it occurred to anyone that much of that has to do with people doing something utterly horrifying: spending money on what they want to spend it on? I paid for a surgery last year that wasn't necessarily urgent (but could have become so) out of my own pocket. I seriously doubt that option would have been available to me had the government been running the show.
Get the damned government OUT of the relationship I have with my doctor, and quit worrying about how I will pay for my doctor.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
NYT is shelling the landing site
Submitted by CO2Maker on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 3:56pm.
Next week, SCOTUS will (in all probability) strike down Obamacare. (I think it will be the entire law, not just the individual mandate.)
Aside from the ostensible reason of vilifying Republicans—especially Rove, whom Nancy Pirogi chose to dispense from summary arrest—and the subtextual reason that people are just dumb dumb dumb enough to buy all that advertising crap, the other reason that the NYT ran this story (and other news sources are beginning to run similar stories) is to prepare the flock for the big disappointment that will come.
Obamacare will be overruled.
Let's find the usual suspects to blame. (Pirogi was bombing a secondary front today by declaring that the contempt of Congress vote was a way for the GOP to suppress minority voting. Now that is smoking with an open can of gasoline in your hands.)
Sorry, Abby
Submitted by Model850 on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 4:26pm.
"Reporter Abby Goodnough blames conservative ad campaigns for convincing gullible citizens...."
Sorry, Abby, but your argument just isn't Good Enough.
What
Submitted by grammajane on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 5:51pm.
is all this picking on Karl Rove lately? Didn't they try and ruin him, last time around. Media, get some new material. Conservatives, racists, hating kids and gramma's, filthy rich,are all names you have totally worn out. How about referring to us as people who love America and the Constitution!! It would be a pleasing change and also, we love horses, o'donnell and andrea, we love WaWa Sandwiches.
Why Has America Rejected Obama-care?
Submitted by Dave. on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 7:38pm.
Because it sucks.
After all, government would screw up a one-camel caravan, and even in government-educated America, a majority of people understand that.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Why Has America Rejected Obama-care?
Submitted by Rikki_Doxx on Fri, 06/22/2012 - 10:15am.
Why Has America Rejected Obama-care? NYTimes Blames Karl Rove Ads, Conservative Commentators
By: Clay Waters | June 21, 2012 | 14:34
Let's go further: Why Has America Voted In Obama? Conservatives Blame Liberal Commentators And The Media For Not Vetting Obama In The First Place.
Obama would still be walking the streets of Chi-congo with his clipboard taking names. Or still in the senate voting "present" - not in the White House destroying America.
The Ancient World had Alexander the Great
Submitted by GW on Fri, 06/22/2012 - 1:52pm.
and we're stuck with Abby Good'nough.