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NYTimes Editor Rosenthal: 'Bull...' and 'Pernicious Nonsense' to Suggest Paper Is Lefty Equivalent of Fox News

By Clay Waters | March 09, 2012 | 18:00

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It's "bull..." and "pernicious nonsense" to suggest the New York Times is the liberal equivalent of Fox News, says Editorial Page editor Andrew Rosenthal, because "Fox News presents the news in a way that is deliberately skewed to promote political causes, and the New York Times simply does not."

Rosenthal was one of several guests on a Freakonomics podcast back on February 16 (h/t Jim Romenesko) with the intriguing subject "How Biased Is Your Media?" (The 2006 book Freakonomics was the surprise best-selling collaboration between journalist Stephen Dubner and economist Steven Levitt.)

Guest Ann Coulter advised the Times to combat liberal bias by hiring "ten conservatives," predicting it would break "the cocoon effect." She went on to say: "A conservative working at The Times would be able to tell them David Brooks isn’t a conservative....I really think it’s mostly a matter of not knowing any conservatives."

Later Dubner riled Rosenthal up by comparing the Times to Fox News. Rosenthal responded with an edited expletive.

Host Stephen Dubner: "There is a kind of, I think, common analog, I hope I’m not overstating it by saying that it’s common, that Fox News is to the right what The New York Times is to the left. I’m guessing you would see that as a false equivalency on a lot of levels, tell me if I’m right."

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Andrew Rosenthal: "I think it’s the word I want to use here, but even on Public Radio…"

Dubner: "Please, we bleep so much on this show."

Rosenthal: "Well it begins with bull and ends in it and you can figure out what comes in between. I think it’s absolute pernicious nonsense. I think that there, you know, I’ve been at this newspaper a long time, I’ve been at a lot of newspapers. Fox News presents the news in a way that is deliberately skewed to promote political causes, and the New York Times simply does not. We make mistakes; we don’t achieve perfect balance. There is no such thing as perfect balance because there is such a thing as truth."
 

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Clay Waters is the director of Times Watch, an MRC project tracking the New York Times. Click here to follow Clay Waters on Twitter.
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Uh Oh...

Submitted by CJohnson on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 6:25pm.

"There is no such thing as perfect balance because there is such a thing as truth" sounds a lot like "There are no absolutes".

Hakapelita!
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Hey, Rosenthal. Don't suggest in any way that your...

Submitted by jawebster1 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 6:29pm.

newspaper, good only for fishwrap, is the equivalent to the successful and thriving Fox News!

There is Fox News and then there is the non-Fox News media. Fox News is the equivalent of the non-Fox News media, which includes your rag.

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Actually, I AGREE with Rosenthal, sort of...

Submitted by gopcongress on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 7:00pm.

I do agree with Rosenthal.... SORT OF.

I agree with him that the Times is not the "Lefty" equivalent of Fox News.

However, he says this in the vein that the Times if balanced, while Fox is to the right of Adolph Hitler.

In short, Fox is near the center, while the Times is out beyond the left field bleachers... NOT the other way around!

But give him credit for being half right...

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How about I just agree that since he was not real fast ---

Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 7:56pm.

on the trigger; that he is half fast?

MD

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The New York Slimes

Submitted by batcat on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 8:21pm.

I agree with him that the Slimes is not the "Lefty" equivalent of Fox News, it's the
equivalent of Pravda. They've won the Goebbels Award for Propaganda.

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This is like all things liberal, completely laughable...

Submitted by gmaniac1 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 9:27pm.

I mean the Slimes is the reason Fox News was created essentially. There was a need for a media that was not overly biased and didn't cater to left wing socialist ideologues in government.

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I would agree. There is no

Submitted by big.league.slider on Sat, 03/10/2012 - 3:03am.

I would agree. There is no comparison between Fox News and the NYT.

The Fox News network actually turns a profit.

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His statement about the truth is in itself bias.

Submitted by acaiguana on Sat, 03/10/2012 - 10:02am.

He's saying that because of the 'truth' to a posit on the NYT; there cannot be perfect balance.

But his idea of the truth is the Liberal Bias that makes the Times a far lefty news rag.

ACA

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