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NYTimes Freely Mocks Mormons: 'I Wouldn't Buy the Underwear Just Yet'

By Clay Waters | February 02, 2012 | 10:25

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Mormon fear at the New York Times. The paper’s online “Room for Debate” section, which “invites knowledgeable outside contributors to discuss news events and other timely issues” on Monday asked “What Is It About Mormons?," inspired by the prospect of Mitt Romney winning the Republican nomination for president. The fact that the Senate has for the last five years been led by a Mormon, Democrat Harry Reid, has failed to trigger similar concerns at the Times. The Times also shows it feels free to shower at least some religions with derision and mockery.

Heading into the Florida primary, Mitt Romney appears to be in the lead. The candidate, whose results so far have been mixed, continues to be stymied by suspicions about his religion. But why are so many Americans uncomfortable with Mormonism?

A recent Pew survey found that Mormons are hard-working and civic-minded. Couldn’t the nation use some Mormon discipline: frugality, morality, self-improvement, worldliness? Indeed, with these traits, shouldn’t Americans be dying to vote for a Mormon?

According to three of the Times five chosen outsiders, Americans have good reason to fear Mormons, while the other two writers lamented prejudice against Mormons, saying it would hurt a Romney presidential run.

The subhead to “A Male-Dominated World,” by Sally Denton: “Given that Mitt Romney is a high church official and not just a member, voters are right to be circumspect.” Denton described Mormons in hostile terms: “Mormonism is a valid issue of concern not as a religious test for office, but for its most distinctive characteristic -- male authoritarianism. The controversial and secretive religion is a multibillion-dollar business empire ruled by a stern patriarchal gerontocracy.”

In “It May Look Good on Paper,” screenwriter Ian Williams was flippant: “While it's easy to be seduced by a church known for its practicality, its financial acumen and its commitment to both self-betterment and worldly outreach, I wouldn't buy the underwear just yet. Everything comes with a caveat....Mormons typically create their perfect world not by embracing the future, but by fetishizing the past....With no marriages outside the church, zero tolerance of homosexuality and very little coffee, the L.D.S. worldview would positively smother most Americans. It might be smothering most Mormons; Utah's antidepressant use makes it one of the most-medicated states in the country.”

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In “There Is a Dark Side to Mormonism,” Jane Barnes likened Mormons to sheep: “Americans are impressed that Mormons fast one Sunday a month, and that the money these individuals save is voluntarily donated to the church’s widely respected rapid response system. After Hurricane Katrina, Mormon trucks were the first to arrive. But what was a force for good after Katrina also has a dark side. When it comes to the social agenda, the Mormon Church does not respect separation of church and state. It has used its mobilizing genius to pursue political goals, and individual Mormons have obeyed like sheep.”

Can you imagine the Times printing an op-ed likening devout Muslims to sheep, or mocking their religious rituals?

“Room for Debate” isn’t the only place the Times has felt free to casually stoke fears of the Mormon faith. The headline over Dwight Garner’s January 25 review of “The Mormon People” read “All-American Religion or Reason to Worry?” Again, would the Times ever suggest Islam was a "reason to worry"?

The same day, columnist Maureen Dowd published “Mitt’s Big Love,” a reference to the HBO show featuring a polygamous Mormon family. She dwelled on details from a recent Romney biography which described Mitt’s “polygamous Mormon ancestors living in Illinois, Utah and Mexico -- running from the law at times...”

In contrast, the Times readily leaps to the defense of Muslims against what it considers anti-Muslim fear-mongering. As the MRC’s Dan Gainor documented Tuesday, "The New York Times has written seven separate pieces -- including an op-ed and an editorial -- on the 'firestorm' over the movie 'The Third Jihad.' The editorial, headlined 'Hate Film,' criticized the New York Police Department’s 'decision to show a hate-filled film about Muslims to more than 1,400 city police officers.'"

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Clay Waters is the director of Times Watch, an MRC project tracking the New York Times. Click here to follow Clay Waters on Twitter.
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stern patriarchal gerontocracy... be ready for more of this

Submitted by vrwc13 on Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:08am.

  • stern/stərn/Adjective: (of a person or their manner) Serious and unrelenting, esp. in the assertion of authority and exercise of discipline.
  • ger·on·toc·ra·cy/ˌjerənˈtäkrəsē/Noun: A state, society, or group governed by old people.
  • pa·tri·arch·y/ˈpātrēˌärkē/Noun: 1.A system of society or government in which the father or eldest male is head of the family and descent is traced through the male line.
    2.A system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it.

...in plain english stern patriarchal gerontocracy in Mormom means being lead exclusively by older white  men.

Now hows that going to play with the voting:

  • African Americans
  • Youth
  • Women

I my calculations that's about 60% or more of the voters!

Maybe that's why the Dems/MSM are pushing for Rmoney...

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The burden of life is from ourselves, its lightness from the grace of Christ and the love of God. - William Bernard Ullanthorne

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Yes correct, the dems want him.

Submitted by upcountrywater on Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:24am.

And the MSM have been saving up since 2007.

You Didn't Build That.

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history time

Submitted by HockeyKid on Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:00am.

Was the NYT worried about JFK's Catholicism? The Roman Catholic Church of the 1950s resembled in many ways the Mormon church of today (leaving theology aside, as the Times does). I know many Americans felt concerned about electing a Catholic and having the country supposedly indirectly run by the Pope; what was the Times' position?

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I remember back in '07 when I was a white guy...

Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:34am.

then Obama won and I turned into a black guy.

If Mitt wins, I fear I will end up being a black Mormon.

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And yet...

Submitted by c5then on Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:37am.

If Mitt were Muslim they not only would say nothing about it themselves, they would deride and chastise anyone else for daring to even bring it up.

And there are really not too many Americans who are uncomfortable with Mormons. We only have the liberal media who are telling us (at every chance they get) that there are "some" who are uncomfortable with mormons. Ususally when the media use the "some say" euphemisim it means themselves.

 

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You're right

Submitted by Galvanic on Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:48am.

And the Democrats are more comfortable beating up on a Mormon (Romney) than a Roman Catholic (Gingrich) for fear of alienating soem Catholics.

The MSM routinely describes the LDS Church as "secretive," even cult-like. This appears to be what the Left refers to as 'tolerance.'

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"secretive," even cult-like.

Submitted by needle on Thu, 02/02/2012 - 1:36pm.

You mean like the "JournoList" crew?

- Looking forward to the self-annihilation of the Manipulated Stories Machine.

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no fun being a Catholic either

Submitted by agingcynic on Thu, 02/02/2012 - 1:56pm.

In today's Boston Globe, Joan Vennocchi claims that the Catholic Church has "declared war" on Obama. Not exactly sure what they would call forcing nuns to provide abortions in Catholic hospitals. (They DETEST Rick Santorum.)

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...really not too many...who are uncomfortable with Mormons

Submitted by vrwc13 on Thu, 02/02/2012 - 12:37pm.

And there are really not too many Americans who are uncomfortable with Mormons.

I would argue that this is not true.

There are many evangelical Christians who are uncomfortable with his faith.

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The MSM is doing "opposition

Submitted by celator on Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:50am.

The MSM is doing "opposition research" for the Obama administration on all Republican candidates. A candidate's religious preferences is a juicy target for them, of course. Their sworn duty is to mock and deride that religion, making it sound like participants are basically nuts and unworthy of holding any political office. If that doesn't do the trick, they go after a candidate's family. If that doesn't work, their go after personal finances, personal relationships, etc.

And Obama is very, very pleased with these MSM attacks. He often hires MSM reporters to serve in the White House as a reward.

"This is not your mother's Democratic Party"--Andrew Breitbart, CPAC, February 2012
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A consideration

Submitted by John21 on Thu, 02/02/2012 - 12:45pm.

A major consideration for me when making decisions on what to think and or what to buy is MSDNC and the NY Slime

MSDNC AND NYT are screaming, complaining whinning about it, is good to very good, if the bring in Madcow or O'Donnell it is excellent.

When MSDNC and the NYT are complementary I know it will be a lie or more liberal propaganda and will be a total failure. The Obama administration.

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I still don't understand the

Submitted by Shreve on Thu, 02/02/2012 - 1:55pm.

I still don't understand the fascination the news media has with my underwear.

Romney once served as a Bishop (local congregation leader) and as a Stake President (area leader) but that doesn't mean he is a "high church official". Those jobs, we call them callings, are voluntary and usually end after a period of time, usually 5 years.

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Because Liberals hate

Submitted by Free Stinker on Thu, 02/02/2012 - 2:04pm.

Because Liberals hate Mormons, just as they hate Catholics, Evangelicals, etc etc etc.

 

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Re: I still don't understand the

Submitted by kingsfold on Thu, 02/02/2012 - 2:50pm.

Amen, brother. Today's Bishop or Stake President might be tomorrow's ward organist or librarian or nursery teacher or assistant cubmaster or... or... or....

I don't understand the fascination with the temple garments either. Many religions have ceremonial clothing for their clergy. So do we. We just wear ours underneath. It's called unbiblical, and yet Moses clothed Aaron in garments when he ordained him as High Priest at the Tabernacle. (For context, see Exodus 28:1-4 and Numbers 20:28.)

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I can't wait for the "What is it about Muslims?" article...

Submitted by frank14 on Thu, 02/02/2012 - 2:14pm.

Oh wait, they are too afraid of getting attacked to ever do that!

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I'm waiting for that article

Submitted by deerjerkydave on Thu, 02/02/2012 - 5:31pm.

I'm waiting for that article too....

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"I wouldn't buy a cross yet"

Submitted by redhunter on Thu, 02/02/2012 - 3:00pm.

A Christian Cross that is worn underneath a person's clothing that serves as reminder of Christ or even as some sort protection to the person is a very close analogy to the reason why many Mormons wear religous underwear. I'm not sure if Newt wears a Cross in this way, like many other practicing Catholics, but if he did, I'm sure the NY Times wouldn't be so brave as to say: "I wouldn't buy a cross yet."

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High Church Official

Submitted by BeanMan on Thu, 02/02/2012 - 3:29pm.

Mitt Romney didn't ask to be a "high Church Official" or aspire to a position in the Church, he was asked to do it by a high church official who was asked by another high church official etc. As a Bishop he served for about 5 years and then as a Stake President as long as up to 9 or 10 years. All of it voluntary and none of it for $$. Mitt Romney is a High Priest, and so am I and none of you here on this site even know who I am.

As far as the underwear thing goes, a Pastor or Priest wears symbolic clothing, so does a Mormon. It is a symbol of our comittment.

I wouldn't want to be the one to declare to the world that someone else was not a Christian. I've got enough work to do to prepare my own soul without insisting that someone else prepare their soul according to my interpretation of what someone else told me a Christian is supposed to be.

 

Since government is coercion, politics is largely the exercise of deception regarding the intended use of coercion - George Orwell

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the 'underwear' is a smokescreen...

Submitted by vrwc13 on Thu, 02/02/2012 - 3:43pm.

It's the "stern patriarchal gerontocracy" that's coming down the pike.

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Non-issue

Submitted by Model850 on Thu, 02/02/2012 - 3:48pm.

Exactly what does the traditional media hope to accomplish by dwelling on Romney's Mormon faith?

If Romney becomes the GOP nominee any media-generated "concerns" about his religion should easily be deflected with a simple response: "Go ask Senator Harry Reid about it. I know the media never have thought it critical enough to report on, but I understand he's a Mormon, too. And oh yeah, by the way, he converted to Mormonism while he was in college. Now, do you have any serious questions?"

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