New York Times Already Pushing 'Entrapment' Defense in Case of Islamic Would-Be Christmas Tree Bomber
That didn’t take long. The New York Times is already forwarding left-wing and Muslim arguments alleging “entrapment” in the terror-plot case in Portland against Mohamed Osman Mohamud, caught in a sting operation planning to kill people at a Christmas tree-lighting ceremony.
On Tuesday, Eric Schmitt and Charlie Savage reported “In U.S. Sting Operation, Questions of Entrapment.”
The arrest on Friday of a Somali-born teenager who is accused of trying to detonate a car bomb at a crowded Christmas tree-lighting ceremony in Portland, Ore., has again thrown a spotlight on the government’s use of sting operations to capture terrorism suspects.
Some defense lawyers and civil rights advocates said the government’s tactics, particularly since the Sept. 11 attacks, have raised questions about the possible entrapment of people who pose no real danger but are enticed into pretend plots at the government’s urging.
But law enforcement officials said on Monday that agents and prosecutors had carefully planned the tactics used in the undercover operation that led to the arrest of the Somali-born teenager, Mohamed Osman Mohamud, 19, a naturalized United States citizen. They said that Mr. Mohamud was given several opportunities to vent his anger in ways that would not be deadly, but that he refused each time.
The Times failed to acknowledge the left-wing bent of a group who compiled a report on informers and the “entrapment” defense:
A study this year by the Center on Law and Security at New York University, which tracks terrorism cases, found that of 156 prosecutions in what it identified as the most significant 50 cases since 2001, informers were relied on in 97 of them, or 62 percent. The entrapment defense has often been raised, but as of September, it had never been successful in producing an acquittal in a post-Sept. 11 terrorism trial, the study found.
The Portland case resembles several others in which American residents, inspired by militant Web sites, have tried to carry out attacks in the name of the militant Islamic movement only to be captured in a sting operation, with undercover F.B.I. agents or informers playing the role of terrorists and, as in this case, supplying a fake bomb.
On Wednesday, William Yardley and Jesse McKinley sympathized with Muslims against the authorities in Portland in a “News Analysis,” “Terror Cases Strain Ties With Some Who Can Help.” The text box read: “Complaints from some that the police are going too far.”
The arrest in a plot to bomb a popular Christmas tree-lighting ceremony here has renewed focus on the crucial but often fragile relationship that many Muslim communities have with federal law enforcement agencies.
Many Muslim leaders nationwide say they are committed to working with the authorities to fight terrorist threats and applauded the work in Portland. But some say cases like the one in Oregon, in which undercover agents said they helped a teenager plan the attack, risk undermining the trust of Muslim communities that federal agents say is essential to doing their jobs.
The failed Portland plot is one of several recent cases, from California to Washington, D.C., in which undercover agents helped suspects pursue terrorist plans. Some Muslims say the government appears to be enabling and even sensationalizing threats that can lead to backlashes against Muslim communities.
On Sunday, a mosque in Corvallis, Ore., was firebombed. It had been attended by the Portland suspect, Mohamed Osman Mohamud, 19, a naturalized American citizen from Somalia.
“Unlike the so-called plot at Pioneer Square, that was a real terrorist attack, against a house of worship,” said a man who attends the Islamic Center of Portland and Masjed As-Saber, another mosque where Mr. Mohamud worshiped.
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Amid the tension, Muslim leaders say their communities are doing more than ever to help in investigations -- a fact they say is overlooked by many Americans.
A local TV station provides a little more information: “Investigators say an arsonist broke a window to the mosque’s office and used some sort of flammable liquid to start the fire. Though no one was hurt and only one room at the mosque was destroyed, the arson left Corvallis on edge and last night was a step forward in easing fear, many said.”
It’s revealing that the Times describes the arson incident at the Salman Al-farisi Islamic Center as an attack on a mosque. After all, the Times took great pains to separate the terms “Islamic community center” and “mosque” when discussing Park51 (formerly Cordoba House), the Islamic structure being proposed near Ground Zero. The Times claimed that to call the Ground Zero project a mosque was misleading because a Muslim prayer space is only one aspect of the design plan for the 13-story project.
Yet when an office room inside the “Salman Al-farisi Islamic Center” is apparently hit by arson, it’s suddenly fine to call it an attack on a mosque.
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Uh-huh. I remember ABSCAM.
Submitted by johnsonl on Thu, 12/02/2010 - 11:14am.
Uh-huh. I remember ABSCAM. The Grey Lady is pathetic.
ABSCAM had Convictions
Submitted by libBuster on Thu, 12/02/2010 - 11:19am.
There were convictions in ABSCAM. Entrapment defenses almost never work. Delorean was a notable exception.
However, when a NGO like the New York Times is screaming entrapment, that gives license to judge and jury to comply. Judges just love to be called "corageous" in a New York Times editorial.
Is the SECURITY of this nation
Submitted by Calypso Jones on Thu, 12/02/2010 - 11:15am.
worth NOTHING??
They're claiming entrapment???
Submitted by motherbelt on Thu, 12/02/2010 - 11:23am.
You don't say!!
Shocked Face
Whatever has to be done to aid our enemies in this war...
Submitted by Dave. on Thu, 12/02/2010 - 11:35am.
...the NYT is more than happy to do it.
Treasonous swine.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
If
Submitted by NDanielson on Thu, 12/02/2010 - 11:52am.
the US government could get this punk to kill American citizens, I think Al-Qaeda would have been able to do so as well. That makes him an enemy of US citizens, and a terrorist. He should have a military trial promptly followed by a military execution. Dip the bullets in pig blood.
Entrapment
Submitted by stan25 on Thu, 12/02/2010 - 11:52am.
There have been reports that the would-be Christmas tree bomber was informed on by his family members. If that happened, there would be no legal basis on using the Entrapment defense. We all know that some lawyers will grasp at any straw to get their clients cleared of charges. All of this bloviating by the Slimes is just showing how far in bed they are with the radial Anti-American forces everywhere.
Imagine the uproar
Submitted by katiejane on Thu, 12/02/2010 - 11:59am.
if the next time the FBI gets a heads up on this type of thing they step back out of concern about entrapment. How many people have to be blown up before the whiners stop excusing the terrorists?
He needs Jackie Childs as his lawyer
Submitted by redright88 on Thu, 12/02/2010 - 2:23pm.
"Your honor, my client thought that FBI guy said BALM...not BOMB. I ask this case be dismissed"
Bad Boys
Submitted by miss911ninja on Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:34pm.
So these two clowns from the NYT report that the government's tactics since 9/11 "have raised questions about the possible entrapment of people who pose no real danger."
Anyone who poses no real danger couldn't be lured into committing jihad in the first place, which is what this Muslim "teen" said he wanted to do. He was going to do it anyway sooner or later.
I'm reminded of a so-called public service announcement which aired on TV in the 60's. Even as a kid I knew it made no sense whatsoever. It said: "Lock your car. Take your keys. Don't help a good boy go bad."
My thoughts exactly.
Submitted by CobraMan on Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:44pm.
"Anyone who poses no real danger couldn't be lured into committing jihad in the first place, which is what this Muslim "teen" said he wanted to do."
That's just what I think about it. This man was willingly, actively, seeking material and financial support in which to carry out attacks against the US and it's citizens. That's not entrapment.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Had the wannabe bomber's
Submitted by BuffNBone on Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:01pm.
Had the wannabe bomber's attack been against the tree instead of the people at the ceremony, the lefties would be clamoring for his head on a pike.
Better yet, if the plot was to blow up the NYT HQ,
Submitted by virginia republican on Thu, 12/02/2010 - 1:21pm.
their editorial staff would demand the wannabe bomber's head on a pike, sitting in front of their building as a warning to others.
But only if it was a Winter Holiday tree...
Submitted by needle on Thu, 12/02/2010 - 4:50pm.
.. and not a CHRISTMAS Tree
- Looking forward to the self-annihilation of the Manipulated Stories Machine.
Riiiiiiight.....
Submitted by Pilgrim1949 on Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:30pm.
Let's see....dear entrapment afficionados everywhere.....
Some spurned ex-boyfriend of your wife is bragging to his buds about the plans he has to get his hands on a gun and kill her and your two lovely elementary-aged children as revenge for his spurned affections of years ago.
One of those buds -- or an alert family member -- notifies the police that this warped soul is planning to murder your family.
So, an undercover office manages to work his way into the "buds" group and offers to supply a gun, therby avoiding any inconvenient gun-store, government-required background check and waiting period. The officer does advise this jerk that his actions will be highly illegal and injure innocent people as well (e.g., your children).
Not a problem! Our wanna-be executioner eagerly accepts the offer, not knowing the gun he receives is loaded with blank ammunition and has no firing pin.
He jumps out from behind a bush in front of your wife and kids, shouting out his incoherent revenge and pulls the trigger -- click, click, click!!!
Immediately, hidden police descend upon him and "click-click' handcuff him and arrest him.
Awwww.....the poor dear was entrapped, don't you know. If the undercover officer hadn't supplied the harmless weapon, he never would have been arrested for his clearly intended, with malice-aforethought, attempted murder (I seem to have read or heard that's a crime, somewhere or other...).
No, dear reader, it's actually --- ENTRAPMENT!!!
How much better (yes?) if he'd gotten a REAL weapon with REAL bullets from one of his scumbag buds and, instead of greeting your family with "click-click-click" it was "BANG-BANG-BANG!"
Ah yes, then he could be lawfully arrested, his rights completely intact! (Too bad the same couldn't have been said for your family...ah well, the price of "justice"...)
How many "entrapment" proponents would be willing to let the planned act get to that final stage in the "hope" that police might stop this fool before he could pull the trigger?
A show of hands, anyone?
Beuhler?
"Ye canne change the laws of physics....." but some politicians believe that with the right legislation you can pretend they don't really apply to your own pet projects...
"Some say..." a journalist's
Submitted by Edhenry on Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:33pm.
"Some say..." a journalist's weakest set-up.
But in this case, it was used as a straw man and knocked down pretty easily. So I dont have much argument this time, except IM Opinion it would have been better to say:
"some say....., but they were the usual professional anti-americans and were, again, completely wrong"
how is it the FBI has not come to my door-
Submitted by JIMMY1660 on Thu, 12/02/2010 - 1:36pm.
oh- i am not "thinking of blowing up a Chrsitmas Tree Lighting"
if "you are never in that position you can never be in that position"
We need to know how many would have died, since 9/11/2001 if the FBI and law enforcement
would have not stopped these crazies.
And if they had let someone die-all hell would have been raised.
So what would they prefer?
Submitted by Bobbygn on Thu, 12/02/2010 - 3:55pm.
So what would be the right scenario for the fine people at the NYTs .. Should everyone just wait and watch this guy until he blows up a block or so and kills a few hundred people?
Would they then could come out and say "Oh gosh, gee whiz, I guess he wasnt fooling?"
"Why didn't the FBI stop him?"
Submitted by CobraMan on Thu, 12/02/2010 - 4:24pm.
I think we all know what the NYT's response would have been had the man been able to carry out his plans: "Why didn't the FBI stop him?" It's the same response they gave after 9/11.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
So, when the government stops an actual terror attack...
Submitted by Phryj1 on Thu, 12/02/2010 - 4:37pm.
...by getting a suspected terrorist to attempt it, it's somehow bad, but when the TSA is unneccessarily violating peoples' privacy and rights and treating innocent Americans like criminals to supposedly prevent terrorists from getting a bomb on a plane, that's all right? And do they actually expect us to have sympathy for a would-be murderer when we are subjected to scans and pat downs for no reason at all? (Remember bomb sniffing dogs and metal detectors? Whatever happened to those?) What the hell is wrong with these liberals?
Progressives seem to be completely averse to facts and logic. Apparently, reality has a conservative bias.
What is the difference between CAIR and the NYT?
Submitted by needle on Thu, 12/02/2010 - 4:47pm.
Their mailing address
- Looking forward to the self-annihilation of the Manipulated Stories Machine.