The New York Times’s November 5 “Political Points” podcast recited a full 30-second excerpt from Gail Collins’s Wednesday column blaming not Obama, but bad Democratic candidates, for the party’s huge losses in governors’ races in Virginia and New Jersey.
The paper’s chief political reporter Adam Nagourney agreed that New Jersey and Virginia weren’t necessarily predictive. Four minutes in, Adam Nagourney emulated Collins by also throwing the two losing Democrats under the bus, while repeatedly warning people not to overstate the results:
Remember that we’re talking about here are two states, not a lot of voters, one congressional district in upstate New York. Micro-wise, one thing we do want to pay attention to here is, and again, don’t overstate this -- independent voters who backed President Obama in Virginia and New Jersey last time went to the Republican gubernatorial candidates this time. Now, does that mean that they didn’t, that they’ll vote for, you know, whoever votes against Obama in 2012, or for Democrats, or Republicans congressional, for Republicans next year? No. I don’t think so.
Story Continues Below Ad ↓Second thing is, obviously the sort of big coalition that President Obama put together last year -- first-time voters, African-American voters, young voters -- I don’t think showed up in either of those states. But you know what? Is that really surprising, that they didn’t show up to vote for Creigh Deeds or Jon Corzine? So, my only point -- with all due respect to Creigh Deeds and Jon Corzine -- my only point is let’s be careful about over-interpreting this, in any way.
Nagourney certainly didn’t show much hesitation about over-interpreting a special congressional election in favor of Democrats in an August 2006 story, an election actually won by Republican Brian Bilbray, albeit in a race closer than anticipated. Nagourney's front-page story hailed the Republican win as a resounding victory...for the Democrats: "Narrow Victory by G.O.P. Signals Fall Problems."
—Clay Waters is the director of Times Watch, an MRC project tracking the New York Times.




















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Even if the democrat
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 18:06 ET by MidAmericaEven if the democrat candidates were bad candidates obama spent a lot of time personally campaigning for them. So if this wasn't a vote against obama it was a repudiation of his opinion on who to vote for. Obama is starting to be a lame duck.
The Obamaton's #1 rule...
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 18:09 ET by PrairieSky"We must protect the Obamessiah at all costs...Nothing is ever his fault, so it must be someone else's fault at all times."
The Dems got their clocks cleaned in NJ and VA, but it has nothing to do with a backlash at Obama...Deeds and Corzine were just crappy, loser candidates...Right....That's why Obama made so many trips to both states to stump for them, because they were crappy, loser candidates...
Denial is an amazing thing.
"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan
Yep, that Corzine was a
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 18:23 ET by Red JeepYep, that Corzine was a crappy candidate for years, lousy senator, terrible governor.
Red Jeep...Yes, obviously Corzine was lousy...
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 19:10 ET by PrairieSkyin every respect but, all we heard from the left and the MSM, that is until he lost, was what a great public servant he was, what a great governor he has been, yada, yada, yada...Once it became clear that he lost, that tune changed almost immediately...Obama played no part in Corzine's loss...it was all Corzine's fault...
The truth is, both Corzine and Obama are responsible for Corzine's loss...Corzine because he has been a useless governor, and Obama because he has been a useless president.
"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan
OK, I know its childish, but that mugshot just cracks me up
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 18:29 ET by SickofLibsNagourney: don't use that photo on your E-harmony profile... it's bad enough as it is:
"My favorite things are displaying my show-cat, taking long, aimless walks after midnight in Central Park, sewing on those emergency buttons at the bottom of my oxford shirts, and collecting acorns. My friends call me a man's man, but then again my only friends are militant lesbians."
SoL - that putz' mugshot..
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 21:14 ET by BO STINKSreminded me of this image. I immediately thought of a fish for some reason.
"How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the Plain Meaning of Words!" ~Sam Adams
fishy
Tue, 11/10/2009 - 01:04 ET by CiampinoYes, definitely just as annoying.
lousy candidates
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 18:38 ET by cajun2Well yeah, lets see, John Kerry, Al Gore, John Edwards, Hillary Clinton and of course, John McCain. See, voters dont like bad candidates of either party.
I don't read the NYT...
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 18:41 ET by Texndoc...but do I get a cookie if I'm right the NYT endorsed both "lousy" candidates?
Great point!
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 23:23 ET by GalvanicIf they were such lousy candidates, how did they manage to get the Democratic Party's nominations? Corzine was even an incumbent, and he outspent his opponent something like 3:1.
Can anyone find the word 'lousy' in the NYT's endorsements of these fools?
John Malkovich?
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 19:01 ET by P.J. GladnickAre you sure that isn't a photo of John Malkovich?
Bwahahahahahahaha!
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 20:13 ET by RukusI went back and checked out the pic, dead on!! LOL! Good catch! : )
Whoa!!! Something just smacked my house! Lot's of wind and rain outside! I'll be glad when this storm passes! (MS Gulf Coast BTW)
Gary
Old media species: Moonbat-a-saurus-rex. Getting more endangered by the day.
Gary... Stay safe my
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 20:19 ET by bigtimerGary...
Stay safe my friend...heard about the storm in your area.
Rukus...Hope you didn't...
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 20:41 ET by PrairieSkyhave any damage from whatever hit your house...My folks are just down the road from you, in the FL panhandle...Kinda late in the year for a storm, but at least the water temp. is cooler, so the storm won't be so strong...Good luck and hang in there!
"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan
bt and Prairie
Tue, 11/10/2009 - 07:56 ET by RukusThanks. We made it through the night ok, lots of wind and rain. Right now the rain has pretty much stopped and it's just really gusty outside. Supposed to start clearing later today. Hope that's the end of the storms, not used to Nov. hurricanes. Luckily this died off when it got close. Thanks again. : )
Gary
Old media species: Moonbat-a-saurus-rex. Getting more endangered by the day.
He IS right you know
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 19:52 ET by FastEdthe issues were local - taxes, jobs, health, demos in office. Sorta like what's happening country wide, and don't forget that the O man liked showing up for the loser, but let's not jump to conclusions.
Proud member of the MOB - Move Over Barack, we want our country back!
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
I guess those six statewide
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 20:06 ET by eaglewingz08I guess those six statewide democrap candidates in Pennsylvania who wer defeated by their republican opponents were also 'bad campaigners'. I guess the democrat County Executives of Westchester County, NY and Nassau County, New York who also lost on election day were also poor candidates.
Dateline. November 6 2012.
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 20:06 ET by Dan The Man 2Dateline. November 6 2012. Palin and running mAte Liz Cheney won with a razor thin margin 58%. I really don't understand it. It also seems the house and senate were also won by narrow margins also. The experts will be scratching thief heads for years
in other news north koreA is threatening to attack the USA mainland with thier intercontinental ballastic missle and iran is starting the attack on Greece for fAiling to meet jeans demands. The Chinese dollR is up. The dong is the main currency in the world
palin presidency has ushered In a new a d dangerous era.
→ Back to you Dan
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 20:15 ET by Cool ArrowJust a followup, did former President Obama indicate just how comfortable he is with the dong? How many dongs will the Former President receive for his current book tour.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
Exercising and writing on
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 20:24 ET by Dan The Man 2Exercising and writing on iphone. Unpredictable results
→ Dan
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 20:29 ET by Cool ArrowYou were referring to Vietnamese currency, weren't you?
I can see Obama giving a dong for a cab ride in Saigon.
Larry Sinclair is unavailable for comment.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
LOL you can say that again
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 20:33 ET by kangarooLOL you can say that again
If the Candidates were so bad, why did the MSM endorse them?
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 20:48 ET by TenebrousSeriously guys? They were bad candidates yet you went all-out in selling them? If we trusted you, then would we be stupid as you now admit that you are?
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Tenebrous... Pow!...right
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 20:54 ET by bigtimerTenebrous...
Pow!...right in the kisser....
That was a good one.
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
To be fair...
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 21:56 ET by cr_uvaDeeds was an awful candidate. He appeared clueless from the beginning and had no platform to run on, instead basing his entire campaign around a twenty year old college paper. McDonnell was also a really good candidate and ran all over him. No doubt Obama's coat tails were short in Virginia this year, but Deeds did himself no favors and McDonnell looked the part of a pro through the entire election season.
And best I can tell, Corzine didn't appear to do much better, though I am not sure how strong Christie's campaign was. But even still, Democrats should be weary. Conservatives are finding some motivation again and I do believe that can carry over into 2010.
Please keep in mind...
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 22:36 ET by Patrick MichaelNot only did Obama's endorsement and public appearances not bring in New Jersey for the Dem's, he did not move the polls as much as ONE POINT. What does that say? You don't need Dick Morris to figure this one out, the shine is off the ONE.
Stay Free!!!
What a Sad looking Sack
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 22:38 ET by MPayneEver notice how libs always look unhappy (unless they are raping the rights of Americans with bad bills)?
Really a miserable bunch of untruthful louts, they are.
" Courage - a perfect sensibility of the measure of danger, and a mental willingness to endure it. " - William T. Sherman