Covering President Obama's health care address to Congress, congressional reporter Carl Hulse filed a full story on the outburst by Republican Rep. Joe Wilson of South Carolina, "In Lawmaker's Outburst, a Rare Breach of Protocol." Yet Hulse managed to ignore his own reporting from Bush's 2005 State of the Union Address to suggest the GOP had been uniquely disrespectful to President Obama.
Wilson shouted "You lie!" after Obama made this dubious claim (one fiercely supported by the Times) about health coverage for illegal immigrants:
There are also those who claim that our reform effort will insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false -- the reforms I'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally.
The Times is glossing over the fact that nothing in any of the Democrat bills requires citizen verification.
Reporter Hulse huffed:
It was a rare breach of the protocol that governs ritualistic events in the Capitol.
In an angry and very audible outburst, Representative Joe Wilson, Republican of South Carolina, interrupted President Obama's speech Wednesday night with a shout of "You lie!"
His eruption -- in response to Mr. Obama's statement that Democratic health proposals would not cover illegal immigrants -- stunned members of both parties in the House chamber.
Democrats said it showed lack of respect for the office of the presidency and was reminiscent of Republican disruptions at recent public forums on health care.
"It is outrageous," said Representative Joseph Crowley, Democrat of New York, who said it reminded him of the "antics that are being used to disrupt and fog what is going on."
After the speech, Rahm Emanuel, the White House chief of staff who sat a few rows in front of Mr. Wilson, said he immediately approached senior Republican lawmakers to encourage them to identify the heckler and urge him to issue an apology quickly.
"No president has ever been treated like that. Ever," Mr. Emanuel said.
Other Democrats said they did not want to dwell on the outburst or allow it to overshadow what they saw as an effective address by the president. But they also said it bolstered their contention that some Republicans were not interested in constructive dialogue, and they noted that Democratic plans specifically barred coverage for illegal immigrants.
The best Hulse could do for precedent was a flashback to 1993, when Democrat Bill Clinton pushed health care before Congress. Hulse then recited a contemporaneous Times report blaming the GOP: "...many on the Republican side of the aisle began snickering, shaking their heads skeptically and making faces at each other."
But Hulse didn't have to go back that far for a verbal show of disrespect to a president. Strangely, Hulse skipped over his very own reporting from George W. Bush's 2005 State of the Union, where Bush was verbally attacked by Democrats when he brought up Social Security reform.
From the February 3, 2005 edition, "Democrats Take Aim at Social Security Proposal, Calling It a Risky Gamble," written by Hulse and Adam Nagourney:From the moment Mr. Bush turned to the subject of Social Security in his speech, there was no doubt of the intensely partisan battle his proposal had spawned. Democrats hollered "no, no!" as a Mr. Bush asserted that the Social Security system "would be exhausted and bankrupt" in 40 years, making it appear for a moment that Mr. Bush was standing in the well at the British House of Commons.
Hulse and Nagourney didn't devote a full story accusing Democrats of showing "lack of respect for the office of the presidency," or lump them with liberal anti-Bush protesters, or survey prominent Republicans demanding apologies from the Democrats. Neither did any of the other Times reporters who covered Bush's 2005 speech. Instead, they briefly mentioned the hostile Democratic response, and moved on to how hard it would be for Bush to achieve his goals.
Here's an excerpt from reporters Richard Stevenson and David Sanger February 3, 2005 story, "In Speech, Bush Sketches a Bold Domestic and Foreign Agenda."
He was relaxed and smooth in his delivery, even when some Democrats hooted in derision at his assertions that Social Security is in dire financial straits.
And then there's this, from Elisabeth Bumiller and Anne Kornblut's February 3, 2005 story, "Guests Help to Embody Administration Policies."
At other points in Mr. Bush's long discourse on Social Security, they rumbled and hissed, fairly rare behavior during State of the Union addresses.
—Clay Waters is the director of Times Watch, an MRC project tracking the New York Times.



















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anti-social behavior indeed
September 10, 2009 - 12:33 ET by candanceOf course it's okay when they do it.
Spare me any crocodile
September 10, 2009 - 12:33 ET by ConservativeRexSpare me any crocodile tears from these democrats. These very same jokers cheered an Iraqi when he threw a shoe at our President on foreign soil! Treated him like a hero.
So when this poser is up speaking it's lucky that's all he gets called is a liar. He's much worse. I hope they boo the hell out of him and turn their backs on him at the earliest opportunity they get. That ought to turn some heads and drop some jaws.
Love it "Spare me any crocodile"
September 10, 2009 - 12:50 ET by MaximusBraveheartI hope they do it too. O said transparancy and non-partisan yet he is the exact opposite! Reps were excluded! Said effectively, sit down and shut up, you caused the problem. WHAT A LIAR! Reminds me of one of the few truthful SNL skits where the Dems were blamed for the problems and it was the REPS that warned them. That was a shocker to see on SNL. What a classic! M-B
They complained because they
September 10, 2009 - 12:56 ET by motherbeltThey complained because they knew they could get spineless Republicans to coerce an apology, in a futile attempt to make Democrats accept them.
These are the same people who made a hero of Jim Webb, when he said he felt like punching President Bush. Ditto the woman...was it Gov. Blanco of LA?
We expect this from Democrats
September 10, 2009 - 12:40 ET by KC MulvilleIt startles me to think of all the bad behavior that we simply take for granted - from Democrats. They ridiculed, blasted, hectored, and demeaned Bush for eight years, and yet they've to got the incredible nerve to be appalled at showing Obama disrespect. "He's the president!" they object, oblivious to their own behavior.
One of the rules of game theory is that you cannot reward negative behavior. Mercy is in the quickness to forgive and forget, but not by ignoring the behavior in the first place. They must be punished for their behavior over the last eight years. And if they whine about it, we must make clear that they reap what they sow.
Emanuel is a "Liar"!
September 10, 2009 - 13:20 ET by kg"DumbAssity of Dope"
where a were the apologies
September 10, 2009 - 17:01 ET by countryfirstwhere a were the apologies for bush, and I am angry with the spineless republicans, who did not stand and defend mr wilson, he should not have apologised, he was echoing what the majority of americans know about this lying usurper
I couldn't agree more
September 10, 2009 - 17:30 ET by sozinho...and McCain demanding an apology within an hour after it happened. Gutless! All of these Republicans who are condemning Wilson are disgusting! Never mind condemning him. You should be reminding people of the myriad times the Democrats -- including "leaders" like Pelosi and Reid -- have done similar things. And continue saying it loudly until the MSM is forced to say something about it. Pelosi is saying forget about it because she's afraid their own comments are going to be dredged up and brought out again.
STAND UP!
September 10, 2009 - 12:41 ET by MaximusBraveheartWe need to speak up more and absolutely DO NOT appologize when none is needed! The Libs and MSM count on us being timid so they can walk all over
us. Then they act like THEY are the NICE ones when they lie to make conservatives look stupid (like Palin).
BE forceful and true, this "nasty"
truth will get stuff done! Speak the TRUTH or the people will come out
and CRY-OUT like the stones buried around in the ground around our
Congress!
From what I have read (please verify) Dems VOTED to EXCLUDE language that would directly take ACTIONS to
forbid illegals on Fed health insurance and Fed abortions. So they
have wording in there to Deflect criticism, but it was LEFT with no way
to be enforced (since that was specifically excluded). THEY ARE D*m*
smart as the media only shows their mirror tricks. The entire story
needs to be told directly and strongly put them in their place. M-B
Awesome
September 10, 2009 - 12:43 ET by black47211Awesome post!
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Hear, Hear!
September 10, 2009 - 17:33 ET by sozinhoGreat post.
Democrats
September 10, 2009 - 12:43 ET by FeynmanFanThe "Do as I Say, Not as I Do" party.
"I support the President but not his policies" - Blonde
Dangerous
September 10, 2009 - 12:46 ET by okiehawk44It would appear to this old man that stifling dissent will only cause the anger to deepen.
I am one of those who know what will happen if Joe Wilson and millions more in America are not allowed to be verbal to register our collective disgust with Obama and the ruling elites.
I'd let the teapot whistle if I were you bubba.
The Slimes (a seething mass
September 10, 2009 - 12:52 ET by Jack BauerThe Slimes (a seething mass of ANGRY WHITE LIBERALS) already closed the comments on the article.
I guess some conservatives (like I was about to) had started using the info here to point out Hulse's selective amnesia over his own own reporting.
You need to read the crazy liberals. Apparently, DISSENT is now a hanging offense.
Conservatives believe in the laws of Supply and Demand. Leftists operate with the Big Lie and Command.
Rep Wilson
September 10, 2009 - 12:55 ET by Patriot III applaud Wilson for standing up to that lying communist! Everything out of his mouth is a lie and anyone capable of listening will constantly hear him contradict himself.....I am for one happy to see someone tell him so! My only regret and I am sure it is Rep Wilsons regret as well is that is timing leaves a lot to be desired.....but so what, I am so sick of seeing blama's face and hearing his B.S. I can't see straight......guess he never heard of over exposure......or that if you keep liars talking long enough, they will contradict themselves!!!
Bravo Rep Joe Wilson!! imho
This article is
September 10, 2009 - 13:10 ET by MassConservativeThis article is great...
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/09/pelosi-its-time-for-us-to-talk-about-health-care-and-not-mr-wilson.html?cid=ESPNheadline
for the following money quote from Pelosi herself:
“It was stunning to hear such a statement made on the floor of the House when the president of the United States is speaking,” said Pelosi, who cast a disapproving glance at the Republican lawmaker when he shouted out. “It's against the rules of the House to -- no matter how absurd the statements are that a member might be making."
2012 campaign slogan - "Carter got his 2nd term, NOW can we move on?"
I hope the discussion of
September 10, 2009 - 13:27 ET by d1carterI hope the discussion of whether POTUS is a liar goes on for a while. I love this discussion.
It's no disrespect not to
September 10, 2009 - 13:38 ET by mattmIt's no disrespect not to respect someone who is not respectable.
I respect the office of the presidency; which is just one more reason not to respect this phony, lying, America-Hating, fascist pretender.
Amen mattm...you said it
September 10, 2009 - 13:48 ET by bigtimerAmen mattm...you said it all.
'Go Green...Recycle Congress'
Exactly! Good point!
September 10, 2009 - 16:52 ET by MaximusBraveheartHe IS the money changer in the Temple bleeding us dry! Turn over his table I say!
M-B
Need help, please
September 10, 2009 - 13:45 ET by BKeyserI'm putting together a spreadsheet as part of a research project, and I'm hoping all the good folks here can help me with it. Basically, I'm doing a comparision of the response to Joe Wilson vs. Van Jones. I've got plenty of links on the outrage over Mr. Wilson but I need some links to all the NYT, LAT, and other major network news stories on the Mr. Jones controversy.
....waiting
(the deafening sound of...
September 10, 2009 - 16:09 ET by PunditDotComcrickets)
yep, I'm still waiting...
September 10, 2009 - 16:18 ET by BKeyseryep, I'm still waiting... (lol)
The truth hurts...the left
September 10, 2009 - 13:46 ET by bigtimerThe truth hurts...the left can't handle their own motto they loved to throw around forever...
Truth to power!
'Go Green...Recycle Congress'
See what I mean?
September 10, 2009 - 15:59 ET by stage9I told you, liberals are opportunistic. They will use anything they can against opposition to their plans.
"If God is dead, somebody is going to have to take his place. It will
be megalomania or erotomania, the drive for power or the drive for
pleasure, the clenched fist or the phallus, Hitler or Hugh Hefner."
— Malcolm Muggeridge
When Obama lies he invites others to stand and call him on it.
September 10, 2009 - 16:17 ET by pahuberSimply put, Wilson was righteous in his indignation of being lied to by our emporer.
Those who are so upset over the lies comment reveal their own lack of integrity to us and to themselves.
Turn the tables and have a
September 10, 2009 - 17:16 ET by mostlymoderateTurn the tables and have a liberal democrat yelling out about gay marriage. They would become a hero in the eyes of the mainstream media.
Levin is giving 'em
September 10, 2009 - 17:22 ET by bigtimerLevin is giving 'em heck...he also says go to Mark Levin.com and donate $$$ if you want to Joe Wilson.
I will be...hope others do as well.
Joe is going to be on his show today, plus Hannity tonight.
Millions of us are behind you Joe....Stand Up Joe, we love ya!
This is going to backfire on the left of all venues.
The Prez put us on the right down last night, the Speaker of the House always does ...the SRM does all the times, we had a MAN who spoke out for us, he deserves our support.
We have thousands who are going to be at DC Saturday who feel the same...we won't back down...enough is enough.
'Go Green...Recycle Congress'