The New York Times has intermittently written up the strange allegations that former White House advisor Karl Rove tried to destroy a former governor of the state of Alabama, Don Siegelman. Siegelman, a Democrat, was prosecuted by the Justice Department and ultimately sentenced to federal prison for bribery. He was recently released on appeal, which probably spurred the paper's new interest in the case.
Monday's lead editorial -- "Mr. Rove Talks, but Doesn't Answer" -- doubled down on the validity of the liberal conspiracy theory.
In a recent appearance on "This Week With George Stephanopoulos," Karl Rove was asked if he had a role in the Justice Department's decision to prosecute Don Siegelman. The former Democratic governor of Alabama was convicted and sentenced to more than seven years, quite possibly for political reasons, and there is evidence that Mr. Rove may have been pulling the strings.
Mr. Rove, who has traded in his White House job for that of talking head, talked a lot but didn't answer the question. He also did not directly deny being involved. The House Judiciary Committee has subpoenaed him to testify. It should do everything in its power to see that he does and that he answers all of its questions.
Mr. Siegelman -- who began serving his sentence before being freed on appeal -- was convicted on corruption charges that appear to be flimsy, and his supporters have long insisted that he was prosecuted for partisan reasons. Until his indictment, he was the Democrats' best chance of taking back the Alabama governorship.
After Mr. Siegelman's conviction, Dana Jill Simpson, a Republican lawyer, swore in an affidavit that she had heard another G.O.P. political operative, Bill Canary, boast in a phone call that his wife would "take care" of Mr. Siegelman and that Mr. Rove was involved in the planning. Mr. Canary's wife is Leura Canary, the United States attorney for Montgomery, and her office prosecuted Mr. Siegelman.
The Times concluded:
Mr. Rove seems willing to talk about this case everywhere except where he is required to: in Congress, in public, under oath. The American people, and Mr. Siegelman, are counting on Congress to find out the truth.
(The Times opened the online version of its editorial to the left-wing commentators who dominate its website and who are predictably calling for jail-time for the "evil man" Rove.)
Speaking of talking about the case anywhere but under oath, the same is true of Rove's accuser, Jill Simpson, although you wouldn't learn that from the Times. Neither would you learn any of the other facts that make her story so unbelievable.
For that, go to John Hinderaker at Powerline, who rebutted Simpson's theory in the May 26 issue of the Weekly Standard (subscription required), in which he dissected a gullible 60 Minutes report on the "scandal" from February.
Jill Simpson is an unusual woman. A lawyer, she has scratched out an uncertain living in DeKalb County, Alabama. Fellow DeKalb County lawyers describe her as "a very strange person" who "lives in her own world." The daughter of rabid Democrats, she has rarely if ever been known to participate in politics as even a low-level volunteer. Yet today, she is a minor celebrity who is unvaryingly described in the press as a "Republican operative." Those who know her in DeKalb County scoff at the idea that she is a Republican at all.
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Simpson claims to have participated in a phone conversation with several Alabama Republicans in which she was made privy to a plot involving the Republican governor of Alabama, Bob Riley, a former justice of the Alabama Supreme Court, a federal judge, two United States attorneys, several assistant United States attorneys, the Air Force, and, apparently 12 jurors, to "railroad" former governor Don Siegelman into his 2006 conviction for bribery and mail fraud. Every person whose name Simpson has invoked has labeled her story a fantasy, including Siegelman; she claimed to have played a key role both in his giving up his unsuccessful contest of the 2002 gubernatorial election and in his defense of the criminal charges against him.
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Simpson can offer no evidence that she has ever spoken to or met Karl Rove. Moreover, when she told her story of the alleged conspiracy against Don Siegelman to John Conyers's House Judiciary Committee staff, she said that she heard references to someone named "Carl" in the aforementioned telephone conversation -- she made the natural inference that this must be Karl Rove -- but never offered the blockbuster claim that Rove himself had recruited her to spy on Siegelman. Neither in the affidavit that she submitted to the committee, nor in 143 pages of sworn testimony that she gave to the committee's staff, did she ever claim to have met Karl Rove, spoken to Karl Rove, or carried out any secret spy missions on his behalf, even though the whole point of her testimony was to try to spin out a plot against Siegelman that was ostensibly led by someone named "Carl."
—Clay Waters is the director of Times Watch, an MRC project tracking the New York Times.




















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Mon, 06/02/2008 - 15:17 ET by allanfThe Times standards are getting lower and lower. So is its influence. Eddie Curran, one of the journalists who broke the Seigleman corruption scandal addressed the Simpson issue in a letter in response to the very poor 60 Minutes piece on Seigleman. Apparently the Times missed that memo.
I hope the editorialists at the Times think of the greater good and decide to cease publishing the print edition to fight global warming. The Sunday edition alone costs 75,000 trees.
Well, this was from 60
Mon, 06/02/2008 - 15:44 ET by fitzfongWell, this was from 60 Minutes after all. If Bill Burkett can be deemed a credible source, so can an unknown, low-level hack lawyer with Democrat parents
"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan
Why it can never be so
Mon, 06/02/2008 - 15:58 ET by bigtimerWhy it can never be so simple as a democrats individual fault...it has to be blamed on a republican for his trials and tribulations doncha' know.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
If
Mon, 06/02/2008 - 16:03 ET by okiehawk44If liberals say something it must be true.
If those accused defend themselves they must be guilty.
There are no ifs, ands or buts about it!
NY Times and Karl Rove and Siegelman
Tue, 06/03/2008 - 00:00 ET by merlin61If Karl Rove were guilty of all the MSM has
accused him of, boy he must be some Superman!!!
They hate him, Cheney and Bush so much it
just spews and spews like a seething volcano.
The MSM are the bottom feeders of the world.
"Good"
Mon, 06/02/2008 - 17:14 ET by ScrapironDemocrats and their media rectums wonder why the American peoples only comment is "good" when one of them dies. I still regret that the one plane was stopped by the Hero's over Pa if it was headed to the congressional building. Not a problem, the terrorist will return as soon as they get a wimp, aka democrat, in the white house. It'll be fun watching the dhimmi's make excuses for terrorists attacks when none occured after GWB went after them. Watch closely terrorists, you will have a wide open field in Jan 09 if Hussein o, the apostate and man without honor, is elected.
Old, Retired and glad of it.
Can't Handle the Truth
Mon, 06/02/2008 - 18:37 ET by Agrarian-DecentralistWell, I see the conservative strategy on this case is laid out---smear one person associated with it and pretend that person's alleged shortcomings explain away what is actually a much bigger story. The fact that it is a bigger story is demonstrated by the fact that 54 former state attorneys general---both Democrats and Republicans---have filed a federal appeals brief supporting Siegelman's bid to overturn his conviction. But of course it would be inconvenient to bring that up, wouldn't it? It wouldn't fit the storyline.
Neither would the fact that Rove is bobbing and weaving, refusing a perfectly reasonable request from a House committee to explain what he knows about the case under oath. Any reasonable person, not carried away by ideology, would logically ask why he is so shy about simply showing up, telling the truth, and clearing any suspicions about his possible involvement. Wouldn't he want to protect his good name?
Oh wait, we're talking about Karl Rove here.
Pretzel Logic
Mon, 06/02/2008 - 19:15 ET by TinianSiegelman is well connected so he can't be guilty.
Makes sense to the gullible.
Gee, AD, where were you when all the dims were fleeing...
Mon, 06/02/2008 - 19:29 ET by R D Helm...the country in order to avoid answering congressional subpoenas during the impeachment hearings of that worthless piece of Arkansas white-trash Bill Clinton?
Oh, but wait, they were freedom-hating Marxist/Leninist pukes, just like you are, so that made it okay, didn't it?
There is no England anymore.
The fact that it is a
Mon, 06/02/2008 - 19:37 ET by fitzfongThe fact that it is a bigger story is demonstrated by the fact that 54 former state attorneys general---both Democrats and Republicans---have filed a federal appeals brief supporting Siegelman's bid to overturn his conviction
Yes, and "noted conservative" Alan Dershowitz filed a similar brief on behalf of Scooter Libby...now you wouldn't be suggesting Scooter Libby is innocent by implication, would you? Didn't think so.
This is a non-story about a criminal who is temporarily out of jail. When the dust settles, justice will be served and he will be back in prison where he belongs.
"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan
Fifty WHAT?
Tue, 06/03/2008 - 10:47 ET by pbanks754 former attorneys general? How many serve at one time? How long is the term? I see a minimum of 104 years there.
MSM - shaping all the perceptions you need to believe.
Oh, I'm sure he made that
Tue, 06/03/2008 - 12:03 ET by fitzfongOh, I'm sure he made that number up. The list probably includes the "esteemed" Elliot Spitzer, Bill "Degenerate Hack" Lockyer, Bill Clinton and a bunch of the deceased in Cook County, Illinois.
"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan
You wouildn't know what the
Mon, 06/02/2008 - 22:39 ET by NL207You wouldn't know what the truth was if it slammed you in the side of your pointy little head.
Rove Had Nothing To Do With It
Mon, 06/02/2008 - 21:59 ET by goatSiegleman got mixed up with a corrupt businessman Richard Scrushy that was already under investigation on a number of counts and took a bribe from him. Siegleman was actually a side effect of that investigation much like Obama will be a side effect of the Rezko trial. Powerline went into rather extensive detail a while back about this false scandal. 60 Minutes' only source is an unknown person with some sort of wierd grudge or desire for her 15 minutes that is unknown to the Alabama GOP. Scrushy almost ruined one of the top hospitals in the region with his corruption and the office my mom worked for was involved in the prosecution's case. Siegleman got caught with his hands in the wrong pockets simple as that, Rove had nothing to do with it, Siegleman got bribed by Scrushy to head the Lotto board and got caught.
Plus
Mon, 06/02/2008 - 22:06 ET by goatBy the Democrats' standards it is always the Republicans' fault when a Dem gets busted for corruption, go figure.
Miller time
Tue, 06/03/2008 - 09:30 ET by VonuHow many reporters is the NY Times willing to send to jail chasing this newest Rove non-story?
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/06/politics/06cnd-leak.html?pagewanted=pr...
Can anyone figure this one out?
Tue, 06/03/2008 - 13:33 ET by WingletDriver"The former Democratic governor of Alabama was convicted and sentenced to more than seven years, quite possibly for political reasons . . . ." - NYT
I wonder how anybody is "convicted and sentenced" for political reasons. As the Clinton's demonstrated, you may be investigated and charged for opposing them politically, but to actually convict somebody requires at least a preponderance of evidence considered by a jury. So not only did Rove instigate the trial, he must have fixed the jury. I'm not sure if the sentence was passed by the judge or jury, but Rove obviously used his amazing powers of persuasion to guarantee that too.
Meanwhile, poor, innocent Mr. Siegelman did absolutely nothing wrong.
btw, did anybody notice that the NYT didn't make the argument that Siegelman was innocent? They tap dance around trying to build a picture of him being wronged by the nefarious Rove, but never attest to his innocence. He "was convicted on corruption charges that appear to be flimsy," but why the charges are flimsy or how he was convicted of a non-crime by a jury is not forthcoming. Mr. Rove though is certainly guilty because. . .well, because. . .well, because he's Rove. Talk about flimsy.