The New York Times evidently didn't do much vetting on the adolescent, infamous, and deeply discounted anti-war ad from MoveOn.org that appeared in the front section of Monday's paper.
The ad, headlined "General Petraeus or General Betray Us?", cited the Times' own reporting in defense of its argument that Petraeus is a liar.
"Every independent report on the ground situation in Iraq shows that the surge strategy has failed. Yet the General claims a reduction in violence. That's because, according to the New York Times, the Pentagon has adopted a bizarre formula for keeping tabs on violence. For example, death by car bombs don't count."
Huh? Not even the Times anti-war editorial page has gone that far. Here's an excerpt from an article by Times reporter Michael Gordon from September 8, two days before the MoveOn.org ad appeared, that directly contradicts MoveOn.org's claims. As Gordon makes clear, types of deaths may be classified differently, but they are all counted.
"American officials concede that it is not always easy to distinguish sectarian killings and criminally motivated murders. Victims from car bombs are treated as sectarian casualties if the attack appears to be directed at a sectarian or ethnic group. The August truck bombings that killed hundreds of Yazidis in northern Iraq and the July car bombs that killed many Kurds near Tuz, for example, were classified as sectarian attacks.
"Casualties that result from fighting between groups, like the Mahdi Army and the Badr Corps, however, are not classified as sectarian, as they are the result of clashes between two Shiite organizations. But victims of all car bomb attacks and Shiite and Sunni infighting are included in the overall civilian casualty count."
The New York Post has more on the deep discount MoveOn.org apparently got from the Times.
—Clay Waters is the director of Times Watch, an MRC project tracking the New York Times.




















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Image That!
September 13, 2007 - 16:26 ET by Wildcatter1980The selfish spoiled brats at moveon.org can't even quote their compatriots at the NYTimes correctly. Like little children throwing a temper tantrum, they will say or do anything no matter whether it is right or wrong, just so everyone else pays attention to them. I'd say they should be treated like any spoiled brat and ignore them. However, because of the attention being paid them by the MSM and the Democrat Party plus all the money behind them, we, unfortunately, cannot do that.
Just my $0.02
Facts?
September 13, 2007 - 16:47 ET by Del DolemonteWe don't need no stinking facts!
It finally dawned on me...
September 13, 2007 - 16:53 ET by mattmIt's been over four whole years now and Iraq is still not paradise. Unlike places run by Leftists such as Chechnya, North Korea, Compton, New Orleans, San Francisco...etc.
I guess it really is a failure....<shrug>
matt, That's the
September 13, 2007 - 17:14 ET by Chris Normanmatt,
That's the solution! If they would only pass strict gun registration and control laws for Iraq - like in - say - Washington DC. Plus, we can declare Iraq a "Violence Free Zone"! Then we can withdraw, knowing all will be well!
General Petraeus on TV
September 13, 2007 - 18:15 ET by Jacob FreezeYou can read a micro-history of General Petraeus on TV at http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/9/12/7413/24572
The individual responsible for this article is obviously demented.
MoveOn.org - who ARE these
September 13, 2007 - 18:00 ET by rimskyMoveOn.org - who ARE these people? Do they ever have a single cognitive thought?
NYT, The Dems, and Moveon.hole
September 13, 2007 - 20:46 ET by Airforce_5_OTime to man up and kick these MSM jackasses asses. I am so mad right now at the Dems not standing up and the NYT and it's "dicount rate" it is giving these Moveon.holes.
We have got stand up and hold all those involved accountable for calling a great hero a lair and accuss him for cooking the books. Fight back with the facts.
The surge is working, lets finish the job.
The only thing you should feel when shooting insurgents is the rifle recoil.