So Whoopi Goldberg is a fan of the "We Report, You Decide" school of TV journalism. Who knew? Unfortunately, her choice of "fair and balanced" news icons leaves much to be desired.
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On ‘View’ Goldberg Holds up Cronkite as Paragon of Unbiased ReportingSo Whoopi Goldberg is a fan of the "We Report, You Decide" school of TV journalism. Who knew? Unfortunately, her choice of "fair and balanced" news icons leaves much to be desired. On ABC's "The View" Oct. 19, Goldberg said, "I don't get my news often times from any of the networks because, ya know, I'm from the Walter Cronkite generation, where they told you what was going on and you were left to make your decision. You were left to figure it out." But was Cronkite really the gold standard for impartial reporting? Back in 2006, the Media Research Center compiled quotes from Cronkite dating from the years after his 1981 retirement. These words clearly exposed not only his liberal views but also his belief that being a good journalist means being liberal. Story Continues Below Ad ↓ In 2003 during an interview with Time magazine, Cronkite said that reporters, who see the "meaner side of life" and therefore have "sentimental feeling toward their fellow man," are often misinterpreted "by some less-sensitive people as being liberal." Cronkite advocated for gun control. He played with the idea of finding "some marvelous middle ground between capitalism and communism." He wanted to return to a "Rooseveltian" social welfare pattern. He was "inclined to think" that Bush political advisor Karl Rove arranged for a videotaped message of Osama bin Laden to appear right before the 2004 election. He disagreed with Reagan's "endorsement of laissez-faire trickle-down economics." He called Bill Clinton "very courageous" and declared that Kenneth Starr's investigation was "more divisive" to the country than Vietnam. He thought that Americans "overreacted to the Soviets," saying that a Soviet bomb was simply a "part of their pursuit of nuclear equality." He argued that to avoid World War III, a "system of world government" that would require America to lose its "precious sovereignty" would be "mandatory." He believed that terrorism was fueled by the "great division between the rich and the poor in the world." Cronkite himself summed up his views in his book A Reporter's Life, saying, "I don't believe the public has rejected liberalism; it simply has not heard a candidate persuasively advocate its humane and deeply democratic principles." But Cronkite's liberalism didn't just emerge once he vacated the anchor chair. The most notorious instance of his on-the-job bias was his declaration after the decisive American military victory in the Tet Offensive in Vietnam: "To say that we are mired in stalemate seems the only realistic, yet unsatisfactory, conclusion." America's only "rational way out" was to "negotiate" with the Vietcong. Cronkite's pronouncement did much to galvanize the anti-war movement and convince the country that Vietnam was not worth the cost. That was the wonderfully unbiased "Walter Cronkite generation."
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Cronkite, election eve 2004,
Mon, 10/19/2009 - 15:16 ET by notonmywatchCronkite, election eve 2004, Larry King show:
some variation of "Bin Laden works for Bush" - I can't remember the exact quote. Does anyone have the exact quote?
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Is this it?
Mon, 10/19/2009 - 15:22 ET by scarebear83Cronkite said he is "inclined to think that Karl Rove, the political
manager at the White House, who is a very clever man, he probably set
up bin Laden to this thing."
http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:Zdzhs5Y1BB0J:transcripts.cnn.com/TR...
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Thanks very much - that must
Mon, 10/19/2009 - 15:39 ET by notonmywatchThanks very much - that must be it, unless Cronkite appeared again the following week. I remembered it being Bush personally, and even nearer to the election, but that's extremely inflammatory on its own!
The guy was a total leftist.
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That's like holding Whoopi
Mon, 10/19/2009 - 15:17 ET by mattmThat's like holding Whoopi Doo up as a paragon of beauty, talent and intelligence.
mattm
Mon, 10/19/2009 - 15:33 ET by BondPlainBondI'm gonna hafta disagree with you on this one. Vehemently.
I find the Whoopster quite attractive. I enjoy that she is who she has chosen to be (fashion-wise). And although her eyebrows are non-existent, her eyes are quite lovely. She is talented, too. As an actress. I prefer her big screen work to the small screen. And she is an intelligent person. She speaks far better and more convincingly than Obama EVER could and, for the most part, she does a good job. She is a wonderful storyteller. She needs to refrain from discussing politics, though. At least in public.
Sorry, mattm. Hadda do it. I like the Whoopster. I don't like her partisan games or revisionist history lessons, though.
Well, you can't always be
Mon, 10/19/2009 - 15:43 ET by mattmWell, you can't always be right.
She's an ugly, no-talent hack.
mattm
Mon, 10/19/2009 - 15:45 ET by BondPlainBondIt's disappointing you felt you had to say that... again.
Whoopi makes it on
Mon, 10/19/2009 - 16:07 ET by mattmWhoopi makes it on personality alone.
I've never seen her do anything an average high-school drama club member couldn't do at least as well.
She's way overrated, and it just bugs the crap out of me....excuse me for having an opinion....that so many people seem to just accept the idea that she's talented just because few people are willing to proclaim the fact that the emperor has no clothes.
Look at her performances, most of them are very simple - something anybody could do, a few are pretty good, but not great and much of it is just plain bad. But don't dare say so....
It's the Donovan McNabb syndrome - being judged by something other than performance, and being protected by an unwritten law that criticism is off limits. Now that's disappointing.
No excuse necessary matt, I
Mon, 10/19/2009 - 18:36 ET by rockyracoonNo excuse necessary matt, I agree w/you 100%. BTW Cronkite sold our military and country down the drain after the Tet offensive, and THAT'S a fact Whoopster would never acknowledge.
Facts are like kryptonite to the liberal.
Our country.....
Tue, 10/20/2009 - 01:54 ET by pantryman...was sold down the tube by "uncle" Walter Crankcase...and he had help in the form of Kennedy, Kerry, Murtha and others...one of the biggest series of lies ever perpetrated on the American public.
How many were butchered after we pulled out? One point five million???
How do these sonsabitches ever sleep at night??
I'm white and friggin-A straight proud of it !
No.. thats a fact
Tue, 10/20/2009 - 15:05 ET by connman......that Whoopi would applaud. Anyone who finds a Turd with dreadlocks and a turtleneck attractive needs to be examined from the neck up! Just remember the Whoopster says it wasn't rape rape!
Pssssst <whispers> Emperor Barry isn't wearing any clothes!
She is an idiot
Tue, 10/20/2009 - 10:10 ET by ptsonBut at least Cronkite wasn't a liberal, liberal!
Cronkite presided over the
Mon, 10/19/2009 - 15:23 ET by Chris NormanCronkite presided over the more subtle, more insidious bias, back when the biased reports on the news could influence more people because of that subtlety. I remember even in the seventies being aware of that bias - more quotes from liberals in a story, the voice inflections, the biased wording, looking at an issue from the liberal perspective, giving the liberal the last quote in a story or interview...
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
And lets not forget, back
Mon, 10/19/2009 - 15:29 ET by Scuba DudeAnd lets not forget, back then there was no Internet, no 24 hour news channels. You got the news every night at 6 and 11 from the 3 main networks and maybe a couple local stations. There was no one to offset the bias back then.
The Obama Administration: THE most fiscally irresponsible Administration EVER
Sheesh
Mon, 10/19/2009 - 15:28 ET by BondPlainBondThat orifice behind the Whoopster sure does quite a bit of the talking for her.
Everything Whoopi says should come with a Tipper Gore-esque (censure) warning label.
Whoppi cushions
Mon, 10/19/2009 - 15:33 ET by CO2MakerReliable sourcing from Uncle Walter to the Viewgina Monologues, a talk show that consists of, what, four regular chatterers and sometimes a guest. The points of view range from liberal to liberal, except for the token right-winger the tolerate with condescending scorn. Fair and balanced, as it were.
Hey Whoopi, that was 30 years ago
Mon, 10/19/2009 - 15:42 ET by benwhite72Aside from Cronkite's bias, Whoopi doesn't seem to understand that he hasn't been a news anchor since 1981.
Can't Whoopi come up with any examples that are less than 25 years out of date? If not, maybe that, by itself, indicates the extent of news media bias.
Why in the world is
Mon, 10/19/2009 - 16:06 ET by FeynmanFanWhy in the world is anything that Whoopi says important enough to pay attention to?
"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error. To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson
Because she the most
Mon, 10/19/2009 - 16:09 ET by mattmBecause she the most talented performer on the planet....
...according to Whoopi
Mon, 10/19/2009 - 17:11 ET by Radical1979...according to Whoopi Goldberg
mattm
Mon, 10/19/2009 - 17:12 ET by FeynmanFan(patting mattm softly on the cheek) Wake up! Wake up! You're having weird dreams again.
"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error. To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson
If Whoopie does not know the definition of rape
Mon, 10/19/2009 - 16:13 ET by ohiochilithen she certainly does not know the definition of bias.
credibility 'cooties'
Tue, 10/20/2009 - 01:44 ET by konoEven if Cronkite hadn't already outed himself as having a Liberal bias, the mere fact that Woofi praises his lack of bias would make me reexamine any thoughts I might have that he could be trusted. Her lack of credibility and lack of sense are so complete that if she calls someone credible, they automatically lose the benefit of the doubt.
As far as I'm concerned, it's like she has the credibility cooties...
Cronkite's most egregious
Mon, 10/19/2009 - 16:18 ET by robert108Cronkite's most egregious lie, in terms of lives lost and harm done, was his false description of the outcome of the Tet Offensive during Vietnam. His lie cost us victory, encouraged the spread of communism, and cost many American and Vietnamese lives.
It's nice to know that lefties regard that as "good reporting".
The now disclosed Operation
Mon, 10/19/2009 - 17:37 ET by celatorThe now disclosed Operation Mockingbird (1950's to 1960's era) shows us how major newscasters, publishers, television and radio reporters secretly received money to promote the government point of view.
Up until he turned on the government with his Tet Offensive lies, and broadcasts after that, Walter Cronkite was one of those paid broadcasters. Why he turned against the US government is still not completely clear.
Some of the other journalists involved included: William Paley (CBS), C.D. Jackson (Fortune Magazine), Henry Luce (Time Magazine and Life Magazine), Arthur Hays Sulzberger (New York Times), Jerry O'Leary (Washington Star), Hal Hendrix (Miami News), Barry Bingham Sr., (Louisville Courier-Journal), James Copley (Copley News Services) and Joseph Harrison (Christian Science Monitor)
Why did Cronkite suddenly turn? Did he demand more money and was refused? Did the KBG (which knew all about the program and realized that US media personalities were for sale to the highest bidder?) offer him more money to work for them? We don't yet know, but we will in time.
The very big question now is: are media people still for sale to the highest bidder to promote a particular point of view? Is the Obama administration buying off media people as was done years ago to promote the Obama policies?
We can't expect the media to to investigating reporting on themselves, so we will never get the answer from them.
Here are some sites describing Operation Mockingbird. Make up your own mind.
http://redicecreations.com/article.php?id=7246
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKmockingbird.htm
http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/MOCK/mockingbird.html
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/ciadisinfoinaction28mar05.shtml
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=5142
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/mockingbird.htm
No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.
Right on Robert!
Mon, 10/19/2009 - 17:44 ET by MightyMouthCronkite may be the single most unacknowledged and unknowing mass murder in history! He killed millions and he didn't even know it!
(some might think this a little harsh, but history is history!)
<edit> and what celator said too!
"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
I don't know if you can
Tue, 10/20/2009 - 12:48 ET by Carl KolchakI don't know if you can blame him for the entire failure, because it appears there are some questions about what the strategy was.
My dad is a Vietnam Vet, and he says the book "On Strategy" by Colonel Summers is a very good book.
http://www.amazon.com/Strategy-Critical-Analysis-Vietnam-War/dp/0891415637
What you can probably blame Cronkite for is being biased. His facts don't seem to jive with what happened with the Tet Offensive. As a result Victor Charlie was pretty much wiped out. That is a devastating defeat and should be reported as a devastating defeate for Victor Charlie, rather than Cronkite acting like he is a military expert. During WWII before the Battle of the Bulge or Ardennes Offensive, the Allies had failed with Market Garden, and there was a lot of intense fighting in the Hurtgen Forest and was pretty much a stalemate. However, after the Battle of Bulge the Allies dealt a tremendous blow to the Germans. There were no media reports coming out after the Battle of the Bulge saying Americans did their best, but they are stuck in a quagmire and should leave Europe. A few months after the Battle of the Bulge, the war in Europe was over.
From the link below in regards to an interview with a NVA officer who knows General Giap very well.
"Q: What was the purpose of the 1968 Tet Offensive?A: To relieve the pressure Gen. Westmoreland was putting on us in late 1966 and 1967 and to weaken American resolve during a presidential election year.
Q: What about the results?
A: Our losses were staggering and a complete surprise;. Giap later told me that Tet had been a military defeat, though we had gained the planned political advantages when Johnson agreed to negotiate and did not run for re-election. The second and third waves in May and September were, in retrospect, mistakes. Our forces in the South were nearly wiped out by all the fighting in 1968. It took us until 1971 to re-establish our presence, but we had to use North Vietnamese troops as local guerrillas. If the American forces had not begun to withdraw under Nixon in 1969, they could have punished us severely. We suffered badly in 1969 and 1970 as it was."
http://www.grunt.com/scuttlebutt/corps-stories/vietnam/north.asp
As you can see this affected Johnson. Left wing college professors who wear Che shirts don't teach that Ho Chi Minh was a dictator, but the average people of North Vietnam couldn't vote out Ho Chi Minh like the average people of the US could vote out Johnson. Also, from the link below in regards to dictator Ho Chi Minh.
"Ho made other mistakes. It was he who wholeheartedly adopted a Stalinist political and economic model for Vietnam. Thus, there was the development of heavy industry, hasty collectivization, the elimination of the bourgeoisie, the starting of concentration camps and the mistreatment of intellectuals. All those policies led to disaster." http://www.time.com/time/asia/asia/magazine/1999/990823/ho_chi_minh1.html
What's Ho Chi Minh doing setting up concentration camps? I thought Ho Chi Minh was into human rights since left wing college professors who wear Che shirts talk about how awesome he was. And what is Ho Chi Minh doing mistreating intellectuals? It couldn't be that smart people could realize that Communism is a fraud, and then Ho and friends would mistreat them?
Ever wonder why there weren't large numbers of South Vietnamese going to North Vietnam? It's the same reason people weren't migrating from West Europe to East Europe during the Cold War, and the reason large numbers of Koreans aren't going from South Korea to North Korea. The answer is that the Communists aren't the swell and great people left wing college professors who wear Che shirts make them out to be. If Communism was so great, large numbers of South Vietnamese wouldn't have fled in 1975. I believe South Vietnamese make up the largest number of refugees in the world, and if Communism was so great the North Vietnamese wouldn't have had to send all of those South Vietnamese to re-education camps, because they all should have seen what utopia Communism is so they wouldn't have had to be re-educated.
X
Mon, 10/19/2009 - 17:05 ET by serfer62Whoppi is proof that evolution is not always advancing...
unbiased reporting are you
Mon, 10/19/2009 - 18:25 ET by TheLipunbiased reporting are you kidding, he leaned so far to the left he was always in danger of falling over. He thought the communist had the right idea by doing away with all individual governemnts and having a central world government. The fact that goldberg likes is no surprise , this is the person that thinks raping 13 year children is ok.
"Say What"
Mon, 10/19/2009 - 18:49 ET by mad53PAWhoopi sez:
I know it wasn't "bias-bias". It was something else, but not that!
Tue, 10/20/2009 - 09:45 ET by jessieHI thought they cancelled this crap. Who cares what over the hill actors think.
Eyes?
Tue, 10/20/2009 - 16:24 ET by slickwillie2001Regarding Whoopi's "lovely eyes", that's probably hyperthyroidism. (Ooh, ooh, racism!)
Ref: Hyperthyroidism: http://www.endocrinologist.com/thyroid.htm