Buying Meat Worse For Environment Than SUVs

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Forget about carbon credits. SUV owners should just stop buying meat, and all their enviro-guilt will disappear faster than a Big Mac placed in front of former President Bill Clinton.

Such was the finding of a Japanese study published by Blackwell Synergy's Animal Science Journal, and reported at New Scientist Wednesday (emphasis added throughout):

A kilogram of beef is responsible for more greenhouse gas emissions and other pollution than driving for 3 hours while leaving all the lights on back home.

For those reaching for their metric calculators, a kilogram is about 2.2 pounds, the amount of steak a relatively health conscious family of four might consume at dinner with a variety of yummy side dishes:

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This is among the conclusions of a study by Akifumi Ogino of the National Institute of Livestock and Grassland Science in Tsukuba, Japan, and colleagues, which has assessed the effects of beef production on global warming, water acidification and eutrophication, and energy consumption. The team looked at calf production, focusing on animal management and the effects of producing and transporting feed. By combining this information with data from their earlier studies on the impact of beef fattening systems, the researchers were able to calculate the total environmental load of a portion of beef.

Their analysis showed that producing a kilogram of beef leads to the emission of greenhouse gases with a warming potential equivalent to 36.4 kilograms of carbon dioxide. It also releases fertilising compounds equivalent to 340 grams of sulphur dioxide and 59 grams of phosphate, and consumes 169 megajoules of energy (Animal Science Journal, DOI: 10.1111/j.1740-0929.2007.00457.x). In other words, a kilogram of beef is responsible for the equivalent of the amount of CO2 emitted by the average European car every 250 kilometres, and burns enough energy to light a 100-watt bulb for nearly 20 days.

For those metrically challenged, 250 kilometers is about 155 miles:

Most of the greenhouse gas emissions are in the form of methane released from the animals' digestive systems, while the acid and fertilising substances come primarily from their waste. Over two-thirds of the energy goes towards producing and transporting the animals' feed.

With this in mind, maybe Al Gore should do some concerts to save cattle, and get sycophants Laurie David and Sheryl Crow to tour college campuses extolling the benefits of vegetarianism.

Stay tuned.

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters.


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So when the wife and I fly

So when the wife and I fly somewhere for lunch, the burger is worse than the avgas I'm buring? Wow - Next time I'll get a double cheese burger.................

Because man made global warming is a JOKE :)

I just realized that all of

I just realized that all of those evil American frontiersman that slaughtered the immense herds of American Buffalo will now be idolized by the Global Warming nuts!  They single handedly stopped Global Warming for over a hundred years.

 Yay, they're heroes!

Now if the Feds will just let the eco-nuts start using .50 cal rifles on all of the SUVs roaming the American plains these days......  ooohhh this is gonna pit them against the gun control nuts in their party.....   I'm betting on the side with the .50 cal rifles......  Firepower trumps idiotic ideology, everytime.....

Mushrooms

I was watching an episode of How It's Made on the production of mushrooms. I knew that mushrooms were a fungus. I didn't realize that they use oxygen and spit out carbon dioxide. We need to get rid of mushrooms, they are causing warming. 

 

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The French won't be happy

The French won't be happy to hear that.  Truffels you know. 

“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.”

To what ends will these

To what ends will these nutty people not go to?

I cannot believe these critters...I am really in utter disbelief.

Nothing left to do anymore but ...LMAO!

Scolds

What happened to the days when liberals were free thinkers?  At best they are now nags and scolds. At worst they are Stalinists

These folks would do better to address their self loathing in therapy sessions or religious observances.

I'm not sure if they ever

I'm not sure if they ever were truely free thinkers. They just think they were and are.

Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge will be shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods. Albert Einstein

What happened?

Probably the same thing that happened to the days when being a conservative meant "fiscally, too" instead of "regularly spends enough to put even drunken sailors to shame."
JMR

Since I do not own an SUV

Since I do not own an SUV (although the car I drive probably gets worse mileage than many of them) this obviously means that I can eat all the meat I want.

Oh, and speaking of vegetarians.

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Just wondering how much CO2

Just wondering how much CO2 my '68 Firebird 400 Convertible puts out..... 6.6.liters of old school Detroit rock and roll have got to make today's SUVs look like Honda Civics....   no catalytic converters, EGR, no air pumps, no emission controls of any sort.... 

Heck, the burning rubber alone has got to do worse things to the environment than a year's worth of Prius driving......

 God, I love that car!

American Muscle Car Owners Unite! 

Eco-nuts keep your paws off my Americana!

softright,

softright,

I can't get anywhere near the 6.6 liters in engine displacement, but I have a 26 yo Mercedes S-Class (European model) sitting out in the driveway. The closest thing emmisions equipment-wise even near that thing is in the car parked next to it.

That beast weighs nearly 5000lbs just sitting there stark empty.

Haven't driven it today, so maybe I'll grill up a nice porterhouse for dinner. :-)

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Good Link Dave

Lots of stuff I didn't know.  Kucinich is a vegan, he was in town, there's apparently a longshoreman's convention in Fort Lauderdale, too bad they didn't say what restuarant he ate at Monday nite.

Speaking of which, I'm going out to dinner in a while....that picture Noel posted looks like what I'm going to order. 

 

Blonde

Now that our "drought" is apparently over, I'm having trouble grilling for dinner, as it starts storming around here at about 3:30 every afternoon (just like Florida) and keeps going till 7 or 8pm.

I don't mind grilling in the rain, but until Weber comes out with a rubber grill, I will be staying out of the electrical stuff, TYVM.

It was oven-baked chicken & veggies here tonight. At least I put my special Killer-Cajun rub on it. Rather spicey, that is.

Oh, and a hearty post-meal bon-appetit'.

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  Sounds great,

 

Sounds great, Dave.

My filet this evening was cooked to a turn.  And it tasted even better knowing that it drives the warmers nuts that there are those of us who adore a fine slab of beef.

You & I may have to co-host a NB party.  But it must be for a Gator game (if it's at my house with this new Movie Theatre plasma thingy) and you are going to have to be the chef-de-barbeque!

Lots of steak, lots of beer, lots of (dominican) rum....and of course, cigars for you gentlemen...on the patio, though.

Blonde

That sounds awesome, especially with the new TV you just popped for. The Georgia-Florida game would be perfect, BTW. We'll lose, of course, but what else is new?

LOL-And I'll bring my own grilling tools, too. Trust me, I almost have enough sitting around to open my own store.

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Blonde

B,

I'm in. Date? Time? Address? What should I bring? Please advise. :-) ns

Noel, The date has been

Noel,

The date has been stipulated....Florida - Georgia Football game. 

Those of us in the SEC refer to it as the largest outdoor cocktail party in the world.

I shall endeavor to have the pool completed by then.

You must bring some "delicious" stories....and perhaps a few slabs of beef.

Cocktails on the house...but you gentlemen must provide your own cigars, and no smoking in the house.

 

Rutgers, Rutgers, Rutgers!

Discrimination against us NorthEasterners. ;-)

Always parties in D.C., Florida, Shangri-La . . . but . . .

The New York metro area gets dissed yet again. :-(

Free, Since you're a

Free,

Since you're a "NorthEasterner".....

You may bring the lobsters.

 

Blonde

B,

Hear, hear on lobbers. Definitely.  ns

Blonde

I can grill those, too.

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Do you need jambalaya or

Do you need jambalaya or Louisiana style BBQed shrimp? (Unfortunately crawfish will be out of season.)

And the Savannah folks could smoke some oysters over a wood fire.. 

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Hey danbo

You are cordially invited.

With whatever cajun stuff you care to bring.

Thanks so much for the LSU info....very interesting. 

LSU probably scares me worse than almost anyone else on the Gator sched.

Interesting times.

 

FS

FS,

I got family in your area, too. Name a place, time, and reason. :-) ns

Noel is obviously an equal

Noel is obviously an equal opportunity partier.

Way to go, Mr Sheppard.

 

B

B,

Noel is obviously an equal opportunity partier.

Aaaaammmmennn! ns

Do You Live Near New York City?

This is just like at work.

Whoever identifies a problem has also volunteered to solve it.

Hmmmn. Now I have a to do list.

  1. I'm lazy so no BBQ. The NE gathering can be at Ruth's Chris. The Hoboken or Parsippany, NJ locations should do just fine
  2. Need to get a list of NB-ers in the New York metro area.
  3. Must cull Trolls from the list in item 2. Don't want to spend all night listening to "9/11 was an inside job"
  4. Need to do this when the Jets, Giants, and Scarlet Knights aren't playing.

That'll teach me to pipe down next time. ;-)

 

_______
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Free

Don't cut out the trolls. Hell, somebody has to clean up afterwards.

-Yeah, I know. I'm a horrible human being.....

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Dave, Sorry....hayesbat,

Dave,

Sorry....hayesbat, Leon, and Lyons are not invited.

My house, my rules.

Shawn & Balboa are invited.  As full status guests...not troll-bot-picker uppers.

We'll let Tumbler & his band of illegals do the work no American would do and clean up the mess afterwards.  The only way to judge the success of the party is by the mess it creates.  And I'm not only an American, I'm a native Floridian.  I hire people to clean up the party mess.  LOL  :D

 

Blonde

LMAO-Hey, you izz de head top person what's in charge.

I izz jezz de cook

Jezz te' me whea, when, an' at wutt time. I izz thea.

-sorry.

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Dave, I hear ya.... You

Dave,

I hear ya....

You don't know nuthin bout birthin no babies, either, do you Dave?  (Thank heavens!)

Hot Lanta.

Just be here with your charcoal and grilling accoutrements intact.  I'll handle the rest.

 

Yezz, ma'am.   Help

Yezz, ma'am.

 

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Nighto, I'm out.  

Nighto, I'm out.

 

Noel

If you are wise the 'UGA' shirt stays home 

"The more I study science, the more I believe in God."     Einstein

No, No, Bruce.... Let him

No, No, Bruce....

Let him wear it.   UGA is one of my favorite schools to play (and crush) every year.

I'll have to think on it a bit....it's a bit convoluted if one is a Gator (football) fan.  But....here it is....teams who must absolutely be defeated in any given year:

(1) Florida State (out of conference, but who cares?) They're the Noles.  And I'm sick of listening to Bobby Bowden.  He should have retired three years ago (and this from my FSU pals!)

(2) Tennessee (hate fat Phil Fulmer...plus the TN fans whine so beautifully for at least three years at every loss...oh did I say SEC East?)

(3) Georgia (Dawgs...they get the runner up whine trophy....SEC east also).

(4) LSU (I hate purple!)  Most difficult SEC West opponent.

(5) Auburn/Alabama (both dreaded SEC West tough guys....least favorite is Auburn because their colors are confusing in the parking lot....one never knows whom one is partying with after too many drinks.....kind of like the Syracuse Bowl Game of 2001).

(6)  Miami Hurricanes.  Just because.

 

Blonde. Though you might

Blonde. Though you might appreciate the story of how LSU got purple and gold as school colors.

The original colors were blue and white.

The legend. Huey Long organize a train trip to bring the school to watch LSU vrs Tulane in New Orleans. Upon arrival it was learned All the Tulane students were to be decked out in their school colors. Green and white.

Not to be outdone. Long tried to get the LSU students decked out in school colors.

But there wasn't enough to go around. But this was New Orleans. There's plenty in Mardi Gras colors. Purple, Green and Gold. Being Green was used by Tulane. That left Huey with Purple and Gold.

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Noel

What should I bring?


BEER.

Dave

Dave,

Stella, Pils, or Spaten? ns

Hey all, We may really

Hey all,

We may really have to do this....pending Dr. Bore's (so far) quiet hurricane season!

Or if you northerner's would prefer....we could do it in oh, say, February....when you'd all like to get out of the frigid and frozen north and come down to beautiful, balmy South Florida.

Only problem with that is that the Gators will have won another National Title, and we'll have to find something else to watch on this giant plasma monster while we sip our tasty beer and/or dominican rum drinks (and you gentlemen enjoy your cigars).

But hey, we're conservatives....we can figure out an alternative viewing option!

 

From the frozen chosen---

Well then the Patriots will win the Superbowl sometime about then.

"The more I study science, the more I believe in God."     Einstein

Noel

Personally, I'm partial to Pilsners, but, hey, its an SEC game (LOL) so as long as it comes contained in something other than an aluminum can ((bottles are fine, a keg(s) is(are) even better)) and is brewed somewhere other than in Milwaukee or somebody's basement in Peoria, it will be just fine.

BTW-I'm a single-malt Scotch guy myself. Besides, it looks as if I'll be too flippin' busy to be doing too much drinking, anyway.

Now the Florida LSU

Now the Florida LSU game...

Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge will be shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods. Albert Einstein

Some thoughts

1) I get it! Cow farts are bad! What about goat farts? Or spotted owl farts? Maybe we should kill all animals to save the planet?

2) I wonder how many farmers died from methane poisoning for being too close to a cow's rear end during a methane release?

3) Where's the study that scolds the U.S. for emitting greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere due to us shipping tons and tons of food to 'developing nations?'

Maybe that should stop. It would reduce carbon emissions and may actually cause dictators to get overthrown and capitalism to spread.

Farmer Dies from Cow Manure

Funny you should metion that. On July 4th the LA Times reported that a farmer and four rescurers who climbed into a pit were overcome by methane and killed.

The story goes on to say


Scott Showalter, 34, apparently was transferring manure from one small pit to a larger holding pond Monday evening, the sheriff said. About once a week, waste is pumped from the 9-foot-deep pit into a larger pond.

When something clogged the drain, Showalter shimmied through the 4-foot opening into the enclosure, which is similar to an underground tank. He climbed down a ladder into about 18 inches of manure.

Boy, that stinks.

Gotta wonder how bad your job is, when something like this happens - puts things in perspective.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

OSHA has this thing call

OSHA has this thing called Confined Space Entry. If they had been following the guidelines they all may have been safe. I know that the tendency is to jump in a hole when someone is in trouble. It is tragic. I saw 3 people die that were over come by argon gas. It had displaced the oxygen in the vessel at the bottom. When they climbed in to go to work there was no oxygen to breathe. Now you carry a meter to measure oxygen and other gases before going into something like that.

 

 

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The tendency is to help

The tendency is to help out...we had a situation here not too long ago where a car hit a telephone pole...dropping the high voltage trans lines to the ground...two people were electrocuted trying to help...damnedest call I've ever been on in seven years in the fire service...

"Pop culture is filth." - John Derbyshire

Training

Just reinforces the need for training on the basics, doesn't it?

By the way, I'm on the job for 18 years.

"There is a tendency for the world to say to America, 'the big problems of the world are yours, you go and sort them out,' and then to worry when America wants to sort them out." - Prime Minister

Rick, I've had the joy of

Rick,

I've had the joy of weeks of Confined Space Entry training in the Nuke Power industry as a designated first responder and can attest to the immense amount of money that regulation has cost.....   While no one can complain about atmospheric testing before entry into the unbelievable variety of tanks and enclosed spaces inside of large industrial plants, a lot of the other requirements have left me and many others standing around outside various tanks for untold hours wearing full SCBA (non- underwater Self contained breathing appartus) just in case someone stops answering when they are called to reply to a safety check.

Besides, if you stop responding in a hazardous atmosphere, the odds of us getting in and carrying you out before you die are miniscule, what we were was a quick recovery team for bodies.....

Back during that training there were several studies that said that more attempted rescuers die than original victims due to the tendancy to try to dive in and save someone. Fortunately, I never had to actually do any recoveries, but I did do a lot of entries over the years.

I too worked in the Nuke

I too worked in the Nuke industry for 23 years doing mainenance on plants for Duke Power.  I got retired from that in 1996 and took a job as maintenance supervisor for a prison here in eastern NC. I was here 2 years before they came out with confined space procedure.

I worked on a farm growing up. We did a lot of things like crawling into tanks, working in silos, etc without any idea that there were dangers.

 

 

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I think I have figured out

I think I have figured out a way to keep everyone happy... I'm covered as long as I only eat meat that I kill with my SUV.

The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.

Ct... ...ahhh yes...that

Ct...

...ahhh yes...that good ol' road kill...

LOL 

Well, CT, that gives a

Well, CT, that gives a whole new meaning to "grilled chicken" sandwich now, doesn't it? 

"A communist is someone who reads Marx.  An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx."  Ronald Reagan

Beef and SUVs

When you see reports like this, follow the money. Don’t be surprised if this report was funded by the Japanese seafood industry, which was the staple of the Japanese diet until beef entered their market.

 So often, in this country, studies are published poo-pooing anything that has public acceptance only to later find out  that the study was funded by a competitor.

So Noel, does this mean if

So Noel, does this mean if I abstain from driving one day, I can substitute say a steak for dinner???  Let's see 155 miles equals 2.2 lbs or 35.2 oz, so that's 4.4 miles per oz, 8 oz steak would be equal to 35 miles. 

Who was it selling those carbon credits here on NB?  If you promise to not drive 35 miles today I can have a steak.

“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.”

What is the Beef about Beef

I doubt anyone has ever traced the funding for the "anti beef" gestapo, but I tried several years ago and it was astounding.

There is a movement to get all American landowners off of their land. Cattlemen are the biggest landowners in the world. The destruction of the beef industry is simple, no beef, no cattlemen to hold the land and then the land reverts to "government ownership".

As an example I traced one group into California and then of all places the funding and front people ended up in South America. I kid you not. Upon reaching the money trail there it all of a sudden went into shadowy figures who were pumping in the millions to drive this campaign.

I will suggest to you if you look the same shadow people who end up with "government funding contracts in the billions" also are driving Global Warming as these groups are all the same.

There is a movement in the globalists to turn America into one big nature park. I will not go into the details as it gets very strange the reasoning why America must be this health park for the rich to play, but if you bother to find a video of Al Gore addressing the Future Farmers of America back in the 1990's he told them in an exact quote, "You young people don't bother to go into farming as America is going to import all of our food from South America".

See what I mean about who is behind all of this.

The fact is the prairie of the United States is built for grazing and nothing else as it is not cropland as it is too arid. Either buffalo and elk would be there or cattle. It is an ecosystem which needs to be grazed which includes hooves churning up the grass to make it grow better. If the cattle were not there massive grass wildfires would sweep over that region yearly causing more global smoke than beef ever produce.

As a final note in this huckster numbers for people to understand, when these anti beef people like anti bio fuel groups all start "equating gas numbers" or production numbers, they add up every drop of gas, diesel fuel, fertilizer and any product associated with it to "attain their number".

So you understand it would be like asking you, "How much did it cost you to drive to work today?" and you would reply 1 billion dollars.

How can that be as you only used 10 dollars in fuel, well in the wacko numbers they would include the cost of drilling the oil, bringing it to America, refining it, the building of asphalt roads, the manufacture of your rubber tires, the cost of computers in Silicon Valley to the cost of digging iron out of the earth smelting it....oh and the coal too.

That is how they do it and I even alerted Rush Limbaugh to this when one of his fill ins was spouting this same anti bio fuel nonsense as "so expensive and dangerous".

That though is how they twist numbers and no one bothers past the headline.

Beef, elk, deer, buffalo, antelope are all wonderful sources of concentrated protein which produce healthy people with great eyesight. Fresh meat is the only complete food in the world people can literally survive on alone. It is why the Indians could live alone on the meat they harvested.

Beef is the greatest producer of freedom in the world as it keeps landowners on the land empowering all and giving the world a renewable healthy food supply.

(Oh and for those who think mad cow. Those were DAIRY ANIMALS FROM CANADA in low grade bi product uses. Beef steak comes from beef cattle as do the finest hamburgers in Angus, Hereford, Charolais, Shorthorn, Simmetal etc....)

This former cowboy knows this business and I still have some pets called beef cattle as they are wonderful creatures at mowing grass and weeds. If you like freedom, eat beef as it keeps the Jeffersonian dream alive in an agrairian American.

God bless.

 

 

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Whew...  

Whew...  

Lame, LOL-And all this

Lame,

LOL-And all this time I thought it was the Chick-fil-A folks.

-Great post.

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Beef

Eet Mor Chikin

"There is a tendency for the world to say to America, 'the big problems of the world are yours, you go and sort them out,' and then to worry when America wants to sort them out." - Prime Minister

What about all the other animals?

"Most of the greenhouse gas emissions are in the form of methane
released from the animals' digestive systems, while the acid and
fertilising substances come primarily from their waste. "

When I see these studies that deplore the environmental damage done by cows, it kind of begs a couple of questions. Cows aren't the only animals that emit methane, carbon dioxide, and other greenhouse gases. And I'm pretty sure every animal produces waste. So how does the greenhouse gas emissions and fertilising compounds from animals raised for food compare to that from the trillions of animals that live in the wild? And haven't animals been on this planet a long, long time? Why weren't their greenhouse gases harmful before?

This brings up a few

This brings up a few important questions I've had for a while over this whole controversy. Does a moose or water buffalo or similar sized animal fart more than a cow? And pound for pound, what animal is the champion farter?? I'd say it is "a burning question," but at the moment I'm concerned about sparks! ;)
JMR

I see where you are going

I see where you are going with this and I agree. Consider that we may add a few years on this ol' planet if we proactively wipe out elephants.  Considering the amount of fiber Babar eats every day we ought to able to reverse global warming at least for a decade.

Elephant stew recipe:

1 medium elephant       30 lbs salt      30 lbs pepper         2 rabbits (optional)

Brown Gravy

Cut elephant into bite-size pieces.  This should take approximately 2 months.  Add salt, pepper and brown gravy to cover.  Cook over kerosene stove for about 4 weeks.  Thsi will serve 3,000 hungry people.  If you need more, add the 2 rabbits.  Only use them if necessary, however, as most people do not like to find hares in their stew.

 Dave, don't forget that

 Dave, don't forget that plants also realease methane.  Ungulates (horses, cattle, swine, elephants, deer, etc.) all realease methane from the digestive process.  So do primates, for that matter (pull my finger?)  One of the largest sources of biologically produced methane is termitesThis source estimates the total release of methane by termites to be 26 teragrams per year. So, in order to "save the planet" it looks like we will have to sterilize all life from it.  But, then, what would be the point?

"A communist is someone who reads Marx.  An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx."  Ronald Reagan

Hopefully some enterprising

Hopefully some enterprising capitalist will place a funnel over the termite mound and then sell it as environmentally friendly clean burning natural gas...

 

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I am at this very minute

I am at this very minute roasting a duckling in my dutch oven (outside in my firepit).  What I want to know is how duckling rates compared to beef?  What is the carbon paddle print, as it were, for ducks?  Do ducks fart?  (I know their ass is watertight, but is that only unidirectional like a checkvalve?)  I have noticed bubbles coming up when ducks dive under water, but have always assumed it was swamp gas from the pond not duck off gas.

 

Ruths husband... You are

Ruths husband...

You are a riot!

I'm cracking up laughing at what originality and wit you have!

Great stuff...

Btw..I copied down your great recipe that feeds 3000...a must try for my next little get together....heheheee

bt,

bt,

LOL-If you'll buy it, I'll fly out and cook it.

Deal?

'Course, I'll have to come out at least a week in advance, as that much meat will have to be cooked Hawaiian style. Hell, digging the pit will take at least four days (two if we can find a few Mexicans standing around).

I'm sure I can arrange for a couple thousand pounds of charcoal. After all, the people at Kingsford owe me. :-)

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LOL.. You got a deal

LOL..

You got a deal Dave...

I'll throw in the barrels and band!

Cool.

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Thanks Bigtimer, you are

Thanks Bigtimer, you are too kind.  But, I didn't make up the elephant recipe, it came from an old church cookbook I have.  If you ever make it, let us know (we will bring a nice Merlot to complement the stew).

The crazzies are getting

The crazzies are getting past the fruitcake as far as nuttiness. First the evils of TP now this.

They keep turning people off with their hypocracy. Lower your carbon footprint while I fly around in a private jet.

Seems we just need to remind people there is another side to this. And watch the warmers self destruct.

Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge will be shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods. Albert Einstein

A Kilo Equals??

a kilogram is about 2.2 pounds

 

Noel, any old hippie could have told you that!  :)

NMC

NMC,

Biggest smile of the month so far. Thank you.

Coming into Los Angeleees
Bringing in a couple of keys
Dont touch my bags if you please
Mister customs man, man

LOL! ns

 

After seeing that picture,

After seeing that picture, I think I'm gonna go out tonight and order a filet of global warming - medium rare. 

 

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Well, Chris

I just got back from having my filet mignon medium rare.  With nice asparagas & hollondaise.

Quite yummy.

So I hope Al Gore doesn't drive his SUV for a while to make up for my rather conspicuous consumption.

As Noel would say...."delicious".

 

Cows

So, eating a steak is worse than driving?  Let's think this through.  If I do NOT eat a steak, the cow remains alive, continuing to spew the methane gas.

I'll take mine medium-well, and will promise to drive my wife's SUV to the restaurant.

"There is a tendency for the world to say to America, 'the big problems of the world are yours, you go and sort them out,' and then to worry when America wants to sort them out." - Prime Minister

Let them eat Chilean sea

Let them eat Chilean sea bass.

Al Gore