Bozell Column: Hard-Rocking Hypocrisy
You know it’s election season when Republican candidates get angry phone calls from liberal musicians telling them not to use their old music (like Survivor whacking Newt Gingrich for using “Eye of the Tiger” from 1982). Meanwhile, Democrats are handed new anthems on a silver platter written with their re-elections in mind.
Bruce Springsteen’s new album has been hailed as a soundtrack for Obama’s re-election, especially the song “We Take Care of Our Own” (“wherever this flag’s flown”). Springsteen is lauded for going on “a tear to raze Wall Street and raise Main Street.” This is where author Jason Mattera comes in to laugh and point with the facts in his new book “Hollywood Hypocrites.”
Mattera takes down liberal entertainers with the devastating truth of their two-faced political lives, and Springsteen isn’t spared. He’s one of the worst.
In 2008, Springsteen’s song “The Rising” was a staple on the Obama campaign trail and Springsteen performed at his inauguration. He lectured the public that Obama was necessary because “We granted tax cuts to the richest one percent...increasing the division of wealth that threatens to destroy our social contract with one another and render mute the promise of ‘one nation indivisible.’”
Mattera’s book reports the problem for Springsteen is he’s a “first-rate tax evader.” He owns more than 200 acres in Colts Neck, New Jersey. The taxes for his house and three acres are more than $138,000. But because of a state tax break for farms, “the Boss” grows a few (organic) tomatoes and has horses, so the tax bill on the 200 additional acres is less than $5,000.
"We granted tax cuts to the richest one percent.” How do these people say these things with straight faces?
In another part of Monmouth County, rocker Jon Bon Jovi has an estate on the Navesink River. Taxes on the mansion add up to $295,680 but his tax bill on an additional 6.85 acres is $104 because he raises…honeybees.
Bon Jovi was named in December 2010 to President Obama’s White House Council for Community Solutions. The White House press release honored how “these impressive men and women have dedicated their lives and careers to civic engagement and social innovation.” That’s probably not praise for the beekeeping. It wasn’t necessarily a community solution, but hey, it sure did solve his tax bill.
Oh, but wait! That’s not so! A spokesman for Bon Jovi issued a statement. “Jon is scrupulous about paying his fair share of taxes. The exemption for raising honeybees existed long before he purchased that land, and he continues to employ a beekeeper and raise honeybees.” New York state requires landowners sell $10,000 in goods for the farming exemption, while New Jersey allows “fake farmers” and only requires $500 in sales.
As Mattera maintains, no conservative begrudges people lowering their tax burden by taking advantage of every tax break that’s legally available to them. But when you hit the campaign trail for Democrats and lament how millionaires don’t pay their fair share of the “social contract,” then you should expect to be exposed as a political hypocrite and a fraud when this is precisely what you’re doing.
Musical activists are often honored far out of their actual power to move charitable mountains. Mattera mocks the rock star Paul “Bono” Hewson as more lauded than the Pope. He was honored as a Time “Person of the Year” and was smooched on another Time cover with the question “Can Bono Save the World?” Bono proclaimed “in the end, you’ve got to become the change you want to see in the world.”
But Bono’s not very effective with his “change.” The New York Post reported Bono’s ONE nonprofit took in $14,993,873 in public donations in 2008. Of that, $184,732 was distributed to three charities, according to the IRS filing. Meanwhile, more than $8 million was spent on executive and employee salaries. They defended themselves by saying they’re an “advocacy and campaigning organization,” not an actual provider of help to the poor.
That’s not the only embarrassing Bono organization. He was also behind a Product (RED) Campaign that Advertising Age reported had spent in its first year up to $100 million in marketing expenses and brought in only $18 million in donations.
Then there’s the matter of taxes. Bono’s estimated worth exceeds $900 million, but when Ireland moved to put a ceiling on “tax-free artist incomes,” suddenly Bono’s band U2 “headed for the proverbial hills in Holland to set up corporate shop,” Mattera reports, cutting its taxes in half. Their manager proclaimed “Like any other business, U2 operates in a tax-efficient manner.”
It’s too bad these rock stars can’t spare us the lectures about the glaring need for the redistribution of wealth. Until they’ve lived up to their own poverty preaching, they should just unplug the guitars and shut up.
PS: At MRC-TV: Mattera discusses book on Fox News
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We take care of our own ...
Submitted by almostacowboy on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 9:06am.
...campaign contributors.
Springsteen Song
Submitted by Metsie62 on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 9:55am.
I thought "We Take Care of Our Own" was an homage to the Obama way of doing things "Chicago Style" Sylindra, different sets of standards for corporations like GE, blaming their problems on the administration of George Bush, verbally dismissing the teaparty, Shirley Sherrod, the "beer summit," the Nobel Peace Prize, closing Guantanemo (ha ha), buying a chevy volt when he leaves office and so on and so on and so on.
"Barack Obama Proud Chevy Volt Owner since 2013"
The real song the Obama administration should look to is what they have done to this economy and Amerrican stature around the world...."Wrecking Ball"
I thought "We Take Care of Our Own"
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 10:58am.
referred to what you do just before you flush the toilet bowl.
We take care of our own
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 10:04am.
What Spingsteen and his p*ssified peers really sing about is "We take what you own!"
I've never liked Spingsteen and never understood how anyone could think "Born in the USA" was a pro America song. He makes Studs Terkel look like a jingoist.
*** I spelled his name Spingsteen because I'm certain he's ashamed to have an R in it. ***
Has been. No one cares.
Submitted by BBallleaper on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 10:12am.
Does he perform these days with a walker or from a wheel chair?
Bad News for Republican Candidatees :(
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 11:09am.
Re: "Survivor" ...Obama seems to have the "One-Hit-Wonder's" vote all locked-up!
- Grump :o)
Bruce the Pooos .....
Submitted by Chicagoray40 on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 11:10am.
He's a good man, he's trying to use his celebrity for good, ok, I get it.
We do the same out here yet we don't have the platform he does so the world can kiss OUR azzzes for all the silent charity work WE DO without looking for glory and buku dinero by putting it in song, all mostly so all the lunatic lefties will "carry my career a bit longer down the highway because I threw away a lot of the dough like most of us do"....and voila, new songs that were probably lifted and re crafted from 40 other songs he half finished during the last lefty made 'crises' he 'glommed' onto.
I tossed his stuff long ago, and I was a HUGE fan as a one time young Saddle River New Jersey resident (and now lifetime, but then new garage band guitar player-soph UVA college student and singer for FUN) who met him backstage at Soldier's Field back in his heyday in the 80's after paying dearly for the pass.. (85) The standout thing for that show however, was the 7 kids (my age then) killed on the way there in a very tragic auto accident we all had to pass on our way into the stadium, which cast a sad pall over the show, but was also memorable for me for the other reasons. http://bit.ly/FP4i4Q
But if I re - met him today, I truly wouldn't just as I wouldn't shake the president's hand. Honestly, means nothing to me as I wouldn't consider spending that kind of dough to get backstage for anyone. Never again, even if it was free for him. : ( I just consider his distaste for conservatives to be personal as I do when they all do it, so one by one, they're excised from my consciousness.
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Hmm
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 11:36am.
"As Mattera maintains, no conservative begrudges people lowering their tax burden by taking advantage of every tax break that’s legally available to them "
Except, of course, for this article.
A tax on income is very different from tax credits/benefits for various activities, including charities. Bruce never came out against the farming tax dodge; Occupy Wall Street was not clamoring about that. The issue was tax rates on capital gains, as well as top bracket rates for income tax.
Still, nice way to confuse the issue, Bozell.
Thanks for the lesson on selective hypocrisy, VD.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 11:52am.
"Bruce never came out against the farming tax dodge."
No shit.
Good distraction yourself
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 12:16pm.
Anyone that uses the public forum of their celebrity to clamor for higher taxes, and that "we take care of our own" shouldn't even itemize their income tax. They should pay exactly what Uncle wants, regardless of the available deductions, or politely STFU and sing.
The article wasn't about tax breaks, it was the hypocrisy of people that have a lot, want to keep a lot and yet want everyone else to pay more. If Spingsteen was true to his publicly voiced convictions, he'd file a 1040 EZ on his income. Then I'd give a fraction of a crap what he has to say.
STFU and sing?
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 2:55am.
So, If Bruce doesn't come out for closing all tax loopholes and credits, but argues for a higher tax bracket, then he's a hypocrite?
And even if he did suggest closing the tax loophole, he should shut up and just pay?
You don't want to have a discussion. You just want your way.
The discussion is about income tax, not itemized deductions.
Solution
Submitted by Unsane on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 7:08am.
Everyone should pay 17% regardless of income, no loopholes, breaks, or anything like that.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
What is the President campaigning about on the oil companies for
Submitted by TheHistorian on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 2:43pm.
If we are only campaigning for higher rates, and not for "closing loopholes", then why is the President out after the oil companies? Springsteen came out in support of the President and his position on raising taxes, closing loopholes, etc. On high earners they generally already lose things like the education credit, allowances for charitable contributions, etc. In fact, the real tax rate is probably several points higher than just the marginal tax rate jump.
The real trouble is that if we adopted a 100% tax on all high earners, we couldn't even pay a month of Obama and the libs deficit. http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2011/08/15/would-taxing-the-super-rich-raise...
My guess is that it is more a move to shake campaign contributions out of the rich guys. Seemed to work on Wall Street in 2008. And there aren't enough poor this time around that can afford to even buy food much less give to the "O".
Dennis Prager
⇒ VD
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 12:56pm.
You are a loser who begs for questions to answer, only to slink away when presented with those questions.
So, Vacent Dope, if you
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 7:35pm.
So, Vacant Dope, if you donated $1000 to your favorite charity - say............saving the Hawaiian cocqui frog from being eaten by the evil white egrets - and the people running the charity spent about $15 on having some dummy go look at the frogs and the evil white egrets, and the people back in the office kept about $650 to line their own pockets...............and you're not real sure where the rest went - maybe to pay for the nice office..............that would be OK???
As usual, you get NOTHING right...........but we're all used to that by now. The point of this article is the hypocrisy that is spewed by these psuedo-'caring stars'................who typically don't have any problem flapping their gums about 'fairness' and 'equity' and the rest of that crap, but DON'T back up their jaw-flapping with reality as it relates to the subject.
And, by the way, I personally don't blame any of them - libs or conservatives - for trying to keep as much as their money as possible and being able to spend it as they see fit........................the government NEVER spends OUR money in any coherent or effective manner - and especially with this current REGIME, under the 'leadership' of your Boy Baraka, it has gotten worse than it's ever been in the history of this once-great country (and Baraka is hell-bent on making sure it continues to be 'once great').
I'm not sure what charity has to do with it
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 3:04am.
But ok.
Read the article,
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 3:09am.
Read the article, moron.................jeez, you're astonishingly stoooooooooooooopid!!!! It's hard for me to believe that someone can be as stupid as you are, but you prove it every time you show up.
But he came out for higher taxes, which means
Submitted by drsamherman on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 7:40pm.
getting rid of the loopholes that exist including the ones on farming, etc. If he so dearly desires everyone to pay higher taxes, he should start by NOT taking advantage of those loopholes. He is as hypocritical as Warren Buffett, whose one subsidiary owes over a billion in accrued taxes, fines and penalties per the IRS. He also wants to pay higher taxes but won't pay what his company owes.
Just because a loophole exists does not mean anyone has to take advantage of it or use it.
Warren Buffett, hero of the free market
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 3:00am.
until he speaks up with an opinion on taxes. Then he draws the ire of Conservative America.
He came out for higher income taxes. Why does he have to come out in support taxes?
You think if he doesn't lobby for a higher gax tax, he's a hypocrite?
Are Pro-lifers who don't think a miscarriage should be treated as a homicide considered hypocrites?
Loopholes should be closed, precisely because they can be taken advantage of. And if you want to come out against loopholes, you can do that. Leave the Boss alone.
That great American Warren
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 3:21am.
That great American Warren Buffet came out for higher taxes??? Really?? So he wants his secretary to pay even MORE than she's allready paying??? But at the same time, he's trying to avoid paying a helluva lot more taxes with his business???
That sounds really 'fair', Venereal Deformed. Why doesn't that phony 'oracle from Omaha' just pay his secretary MORE, and put her on the same tax schedule that he is on, and pay his godda*m taxes, and shut the hell up??? And take his trains to Canada and ship THEIR oil to China, since your pathetic Boy Baraka is NOT interested in advancing our own energy independance here in the USA???
I'll tell ya, VD...............you have got to be the STUPIDEST poster I've EVER seen here on NB...........and that is quite a feat!!!
PS - Springsteen sucks.............he needs some Ex-Lax, and he's just another phony lib..............and the MSM and idiots like you continue to cover for him.
Warren Buffett's secretary does pay more taxes
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 10:21am.
in proportion to her income, than Warren Buffett. Warren said thats not fair, and the right - wing media slammed him for it.
And yes, he does have lawyers who take advantage of loopholes, tax credits, shelters, etc.
Why do you think people who don't agree with you should "shut up"? How does that help fuel a debate, or a discussion? Clearly, he feels that more people should pay more taxes, not just him.
Clearly, as a citizen, you like to use free speech to advance your views, and suggest laws to ban others from doing what they want to do (abortion, gay marriage, etc.). But when someone suggests higher taxes for the rich, they should just "shut up"?
Also Killa, you mentioned I "had no life" and "was a loser." Simply for posting.
So when you post, you're just a hardworking American who just casually posts here after a long day at work. But when I post here, I have no life? How does that work?
Wow, I do not think we have
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 1:03pm.
Wow, I do not think we have ever has a more stupid poster than you in quite a while.
Warren Buffets actual salary from Berkshire Hathaway is only $100,000 a year which is taxed at the same rate as everyone else making that salary. Now the bulk of Buffets income comes from dividend income which is taxed at a MUCH lower rate (thankfully).
So good ole Warren is distorting when he says his secretary pays a higher rate than he does. And of course a libturd like you laps it up without ever trying to prove if the numbers make sense.
Capital gains tax
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 1:41pm.
He thinks Capital Gains tax should be taxed at a higher rate. Capital Gains is income.
Warren Buffet is extremely
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 2:28pm.
Warren Buffet is extremely rich and it appears that he does not want anyone else to be able to attain what he has. Raise capital gains and watch loads of people STOP investing. But I guess you want to see this economy crash.
Capital Gains Tax
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 4:31pm.
Is DOUBLE taxation.
What do you NOT understand about that?
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No
Submitted by Unsane on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 8:00pm.
Read your tax laws (for starters). Income is: wages, salaries, tips. If it does not fall into those three categories, it is a capital gain.
And of course he thinks capital gains should be taxed at a higher rate! Because if it is, such rates will deter the little people from investing, leaving that playing field for guys like him. And Mr. Buffett and his buddies get to entrench themselves as you cheer on from the sidelines in the name of "social justice."
Just like a good useful idiot.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Reminds me of this joke: A
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 4:50pm.
Reminds me of this joke:
A guy goes to an auto parts store, and part he needs costs $54.95, but it's out of stock. He goes to another, which has the part, but it's $79.95. He complains "The other guy has it for $54.95!" The store guy says well why didn't you buy it there? and the customer says "it was out of stock." The store guy says "Well when they're out of stock here, I sell them for $54. 95 too!"
Of course Warren Buffett is in favor of higher taxes; he simply doesn't pay them!
Useful idiots
Submitted by Unsane on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 7:12am.
Warren Buffett wants higher taxes because they raise barriers to entry to his sphere. As such, the higher taxes he is whining for will serve to entrench him as an aristocrat.
And who falls for the ploy? Useful idiots such as you.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
New depths of stupidity. ..
Submitted by Radical1979 on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 9:22am.
It's hypocritical not to consider a miscarriage as a homicide? You have no concept of how insulting and painful the loss of an unborn child is to a family. As twisted as I thought you were before you have shown yourself to be a vile, self absorbed, cruel, conscienceless piece of humanity.
Please try to keep up
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 10:14am.
Most Pro-Lifers make exceptions as to when a woman can get an abortion (rape, incest, danger to health, etc). And its accepted that they're not hypocritical, and I agree as well.
This article suggests that if Bruce doesn't rail against all taxes, while criticizing the income tax, then he is a hypocrite. It just isn't true.
If Bruce said, "I think everyone should pay more income taxes, except me, because I'm the Boss" then that would be hypocritical.
WRONG, Vandamage.
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 12:20pm.
Vandamage, you're not only wrong, you're wrong in capital letters.
"Most pro-lifers" are NOT in favor of abortion in the case of rape or incest, and there are very few cases where an abortion is a necessity to save a woman's life, in which a true "pro-lifer" would NOT advocate abortion, but an attempt to save both, which admittedly might fail.
Those who oppose abortion "except for yada yada yada" are not truly pro-life, but liberals who are pretending to be "moderate" and trying to straddle the line.
Before you preach and tell others to "keep up" , you'd better be damn sure you know what you are talking about.
Sean Hannity agrees with me
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 12:27pm.
Will you write to Sean Hannity, and tell him he doesn't know what he's talking about?
He is advocating that his income taxes be raised, and he pays income tax. Not hypocritical. Tax Shelters are not the same thing.
He is advocating that his
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 1:11pm.
He is advocating that his income taxes be raised, and he pays income tax.
Link or slink Braindamaged2000.
You want me to prove Bruce pays income tax?
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 1:56pm.
What am I, his accountant?
Where's the source that Bruce's farm doesn't really count as a farm?
Read the post I was
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 2:19pm.
Read the post I was responding to idiot, you were talking about Hannity.
Scoobie-Doo, I rest my case
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 3:31pm.
Scoobie-Doo, I rest my case that this guy is the stooooooooooooopidist poster that has EVER made an appearance on NB.
And as to the Hannity remark - the only times I've ever heard Hannity talk about his own tax rate - he claims its around 55% of his total income, with all the Federal, State, City, County, and whatever else it is..................so I can't imagine him saying that he'd like to see it raised - unless ol' Vein Drip can prove it somehow.
Try to keep up, Vandamage.
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 3:55pm.
I didn't say it doesn't "count" as a farm.
I said the Springsteen is a hypocrite for advocating higher taxes while taking advantage of every loophole he can. I'll withdraw that the moment Springsteen calls on government to close his loophole.
Because he's obviously too weak to resist it if it's there.
I don't think they're the same issue
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 12:09am.
Income taxes aren't a loophole.
You don't understand much about taxes, do you?
Submitted by drsamherman on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 12:39am.
Property taxes = levied by local governments like counties, school boards, cities/townships to fund local public services.
Income taxes = levied by governments sometimes a local and state levels, always at federal level to fund public services.
Sales taxes = levied by local and state governments to fund education or local public services.
Excise taxes = levied by governments at all level in some way.
Vandamage2000 tax = Arctic-level IQ net of social sciences major who flunked basic civics in high school.
Got it, Vannie?
Now who needs to try to keep up?
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 3:54pm.
I'm talking about your stupid statement on pro-life people and you respond with a crack about Hannity and taxes?
Yes, it's in direct reply to my comments about pro-life people and abortion.
Scumbag VD
Submitted by Radical1979 on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 3:55pm.
I am keeping up. You made a horrific comment you are now trying to backtrack on because it lifts the bag from your vile countenance and reveals you as the sick creature you are.
Tell you what....
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 4:31pm.
You can speak for the Pro-Abortionists.
Don't deign to think you have a voice for the Pro-Lifers. Because you don't. You are wrong as can be.
You are truly a left wing loon. You can't stay on topic, and you truly believe your own opinions are facts. Get a clue. I've tried to give you a few, but you're obtuse.
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Forget it B....the guy is
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 4:54pm.
Forget it B....the guy is beyond hope. He doesn't have the slightest clue what the pro-life movement is about, and thinks he can just make stuff up about what they believe, and then even claim that Sean Hannity has called for higher taxes!
You can tell by his replies that he's not used to actually having people demand that he substantiate his claims.
He came to a battle of wits, unarmed. I don't expect him to be around long.
MB
Submitted by Radical1979 on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 5:46pm.
He'll be sticking around for a long time. His arguments at consistently proven wrong, so changes the argument like a six year old saying, but I meant to say...
This piece of garbage has NO standards, and his here to do nothing but troll.
Ugh, Christ
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 12:08am.
When I post a reply to one person, I'm not replying to everyone who called me a troll.
The Hannity comment was about the pro-life exception. Hannity believes in exceptions, and I do think most pro-lifers feel that way.
Will you go call Hannity and call him a hypocrite , please?
Anyways, capital gains tax is, indeed, income. Yea, it is double taxed. Thats the law. You don't like the law? Then lobby Congress to change it.
I don't think everyone who invests in capital gains tax should be taxed. But if your ONLY way of making money is through capital gains, and you make over a million a year from it, you should pay the top rate.
"Ugh, Christ"????
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 1:17am.
Bad, bad, bad!
That's just for starters.
Your post is so bad I'm going to bookmark it, and comeback tomorrow to demolish it, porn star.
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My darling Blonde - we are in
Submitted by killa37 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 1:27am.
My darling Blonde - we are in the same stratosphere at the same time!!! I like that!!! But I know that it's late over there for you.
I'm just having a black cherry/vodka, and reveling in the absolute idiocy of this moron...................I've met some stupid people, but this dolt seems to have set the bar below sea level.
Wo wo wo wo wo, Vapid Dope!!!
Submitted by killa37 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 1:29am.
Wo wo wo wo wo, Vapid Dope!!! Why didn't you start your post with 'Ugh, MOHAMMED'???? What the hell does 'Christ' have to do with this so-called conversation between the sharp and informed people at NB, and a complete buffoon like you???
Your Hannity comment was SPECIFICALLY targeted at your claim that Sean Hannity WANTED higher taxes!!! You are so inept and full of BS that you can't keep up with your own lies.
And after flapping your liberal, moronic gums about capital gains, and how the 'rich' should be paying more..........you are now saying that capital gains IS, in fact, a 'double tax', and that we should be lobbying Congress to change it??? I think that your continued 'playing both sides of the fence' has only served to firmly fixate those sharp, pointed fencepost firmly up your dumb ass!!!
And now you're pretending to be your main man, Boy Baraka Hussein Sheik-yer-buti Obama and DECIDE who is allowed to be 'rich', and how much they are allowed to earn??? So tell us, Supreme Commander Very Dumb, WHO will be able to invest in capital gains WITHOUT being taxed???
You are a total and complete embarrassment to yourself, because everytime you write a new post, you set a new low for idiocy and stupidity!!!
I did not make myself clear, and for that I apologize
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 10:12am.
The Hannity comment was about abortion. He believes in exceptions, and I don't believe it makes him a hypocrite.
The tax comment is about Bruce. He wants a higher income tax, but does use tax shelters. Those are two different issues, and does not make him a hypocrite.
Capital gains is double tax, and it's the law. So why are you whining to me about it? It was the law under Republican Presidents, it was the law under Democratic Presidents. No conservative is trying to change it. So why is an evil liberal plot to take your money?
I'm not playing both sides of the fence. I'm being reasonable. Try it sometime.
You think that setting tax rates is "deciding how much people are allowed to earn"?
I think if you work and receive wages, and invest money and make less than a million a year with those investments, you should keep that money (single taxed at the corporate rate). But if your sole way of making money is capital gains, and you earn over a million a year, you should be double taxed (corporate rate, and then the top rate).
BS, VD.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 10:42am.
You couldn't find a more glaring example of tax hypocrisy than Springsteen.
Hiding behind an arcane law and screwing over your fellow tax-paying neighbors is ludicrous. Colt's Neck, NJ is among THE most expensive real estate in the country, bar none. Palm Beach is a ghetto compared to Colt's Neck.
Now here's a little homework assignment for you. Since it involves several steps, I know you will find it challenging, but indulge us:
1) Google 'springsteen house'.
2) This will return a number of aerials of the estate.
3) Now look for the 'crops' amidst the 200+ acres. Guesstimate the percentage of acreage devoted to 'farming.' Do not include the horsie paddocks, because in New Jersey we do not raise horses for meat. Yet.
4) Then report back to us your findings. Feel free to include personal anecdotes of how you would feel if you were a neighbor of Springsteen, you both had kids in the school system, yet you were forced to pay every single cent of your assessed real estate taxes while King Bruce got away with murder.
Haha
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 12:27pm.
I have to do research for you, to prove YOUR point?
Forget it. I don't get my research from the internet.
Go inspect Bruce's farm, then get back to me.
Then I'll turn the tables on you. Why should Bruce have to pay more property tax? Hasn't he already paid enough? Why do you hate successful people with mansions?
SOL
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 12:38pm.
This sad little troll has difficulty forming his own arguments. That line about hating people with mansions? Sound similar to this? People need to be rewarded for taking risks not punished. Why do you resent successful people so much? Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-bozell/2012/03/17/bozell-column-hard-...
What a doofus this guy is.
Rad / Blonde: My nomination for Dumbest Line of the Year:
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 2:09pm.
"I don't get my research from the internet."
So bad it's hilarious, SoL
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 2:19pm.
It's very sad how poorly educated these liberals truly are. They think they are brilliant, but they don't have the reasoning skills to fight their way(s) out of a wet paper sack. That's what a liberal arts degree, or a degree in women's studies will do for you, I guess. They think jobs grow on trees, and they are entitled to everything!
On another note, I saw a piece on Fox earlier, that therapeutic massage is efficacious in speeding the recovery of certain injuries. So the anchor, Jenna Lee, says "great, we should get free massages on our insurance". Nothing like that "free stuff", huh? *rolls eyes* That mentality is an infectious disease, apparently.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
A crowning acheivement
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 3:19pm.
Radical discovers sarcasm and irony.
A greater crowning achievement:
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 9:16pm.
Dainbramage2000 discovers sarcasm and irony do not translate well in electronic media.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Poor little porn star
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 12:40pm.
First of all, you need to apologize to the board for your "Ugh, Christ". THAT IS OFFENSIVE to many here as the "n" word is to blacks.
You have simply got to learn to back up YOUR contentions, here. Bruce IS a hypocrite, for claiming a farming tax exemption while shagging the leftist meme of soak the 1%. But you refuse to do as SoL suggested, and PROVE that he's not. Sorry, babe, facts NOT in evidence.
Your "thought" that rich people who live off their investments and earn more than $1 million per year should pay the corporate tax rate (35%) plus the highest INCOME tax rate (39%)....that's a whopping 74%, you know, is ABSURD. Why on earth would they risk ONE CENT of their money if they had to give up $740,000 of every million dollars earned to taxes? They'd invest in tax-free munis, sit back and shoot you socialists the finger, and we'd be living in a third world festering swamp.
Who do you think provides the capital to grow the economy? That's right....these same evil multimillionaires who endow colleges, fund art museums, invest in start-ups, found the Atlanta aquarium (look it up....that there's Home Depot money), start firms and oh yeah.....employ the rest of us.
I normally try not to call people here idiots, but so sorry, Cinderella. The shoe fits.....and you wear it so well.
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I'm a Catholic
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 3:22pm.
And Jesus told me I can say his name. it's just a word, after all. And who are you to criticize my relationship with Christ?
Soak the 1%? He is part of the 1%! He is asking that government raise his taxes, not just other peoples. If you want to close his loophole, then lobby congress to punish people with big houses. And you still can't prove that his farm doesn't count as a farm.
Those corporations don't pay those taxes anyways, they find their own loopholes.
~Sure you are
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 3:32pm.
I'm a Borneo pygmy.
Not as a pejorative, porn star
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 3:35pm.
Do you know what that means? Pejorative?
I don't give a rat's ass about his loophole....I care about his hypocrisy....whining about the 1% not paying enough, whilst availing himself of every available loophole. Why close it? There are people who use it legitimately.....but not the Boss Hypocrite
But I see you've totally ignored my destruction of your earlier idiocy.....now try to justify the 74% tax rate you proposed.
And corporations DO pay taxes.....else you liberals wouldn't be whining about Big Oil's 6 BN in tax incentives.
Can't have it both way, porn star.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Ah
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 3:46pm.
So, now you decide who uses it legitmately and who doesn't?
Again, how do you know his use of it is illegitimate?
A lot of corporations do not pay corporate tax. But my "million dollar limit" was an after tax figure. In other words, if your after tax income would be a million, then you should be taxed at the high rates. If your after tax income is 200 or 300, and you also receive wages, you would not be taxed on the capital gains. My problem with the capital gains tax is that if you are getting millions, then you don't need an attractive tax break.
Genius!
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 4:49pm.
NOT.
Really, economics is not your strong point, is it? What did you major in.....basket weaving?
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
~Nose-picking
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 5:18pm.
would be my guess. He flunked out though, couldn't show his work.
For the obvious reason.
Hey Bright Eyes: I already did the research. Years ago.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 1:53pm.
I am very well acquainted with St. Springsteen's case. One could have gleaned that from the homework I assigned you, for which you now receive a well-deserved 0.
You, however, in typical liberal knee-jerk fashion, stumbled upon the Bruce story here and chose to lecture us on it without knowing anything about it other than reading a few sentences.
Springsteen and his pal BJ are well-known as legendary hypocrites for their tax-dodging in NJ. I'd say 'look it up' , but of course you won't.
Maybe you should front a band, too, as you are also well versed in azz-sploding hypocrisy - as evidenced by your comment 'hasn't he paid enough already?" It isn't that the EXACT polar opposite of the miliionaires-should-pay-more meme your buddies are pushing?
Hey, Vandamge, why don't you
Submitted by motherbelt on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 5:38pm.
Hey, Vandamge, why don't you post a link to Sean Hannity saying he is OK with abortion in the case of rape:? If you do, I will write to him and tell him he's a hypocrite and a lousy Catholic.
and I do think most pro-lifers feel that way.
No one cars what you "think" most pro-lifers think. Show some proof or shut up.
Oh, and for the record, you had to hit "reply" in MY comment to get your reply right under it. So nice try attempting to make excuses. So if you wanted to reply to someone's comments about Hannity, that's where you should have hit "reply."
If you can't keep up, take notes.
Good Lord, only a social sciences major could be so thick.
Submitted by drsamherman on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 12:36am.
He is entitled to his opinions, but he has been more than vocal about his support for higher taxes. The implication is taxes of all kinds, whether derived from income or property or what have you. It is very easy for him to say this, as he deferred a hell of a lot of his taxes by placing his money into a foundation with Bill Gates and simultaneously announcing he will not be passing most of his money on to his family avoiding inheritance taxes. Since when did gas taxes come into this? Taxes on income (whatever source derived), property and sales are the main taxes that fuel governments in the United States. Did you flunk your basic civics course? The US federal income tax is the largest tax on individuals, and everyone at some point has to pay it. Liberals are always advocating higher taxes, but resist paying them by taking advantage of the very loopholes THEY criticize. Most of us on this conservative board would not mind getting rid of a lot of loopholes in exchange for a tax code that does not require an army of accountants and lawyers to understand.
Loopholes are completely voluntary. Nobody has to take advantage of them, and they are more than free to instruct their tax attorneys and accountants to ignore them and pay the taxes. Warren Buffet has not done that, and indeed his company OWES taxes to the US government through his Netjet operating subsidiary of Berkshire-Hathaway.
I will not leave "The Boss" alone. He is as big a hypocrite as Warren Buffett. Just how superficial are you? The only people I have ever met who are so confused about how the government actually works are social sciences faculty or graduate students, particularly history and political science because they have never worked an honest day in their lives. I guess we know where you stand.
Hold on
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 12:41am.
"Liberals are always advocating higher taxes, but resist paying them by taking advantage of the very loopholes THEY criticize"
Who exactly is criticizing loopholes, and then using those same loopholes?
What loopholes do you want to get rid of?
You want to get rid of loopholes, and Warren Buffett wants to raise income taxes. So why are they hypocrites, and why are you the patron saint of tax reform?
Why do you answer questions with questions?
Submitted by drsamherman on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 12:48am.
Why did Barack Obama say he wanted to eliminate loopholes for oil companies yet give more loopholes to green energy companies and for job creators?
Why do you think it is only liberals who are for closing loopholes?
Why do you think we want to get rid of those loopholes like ones to the film industry that is overwhelmingly liberal or the urban renewal projects targeted at people like Valerie Jarrett?
Why do you love Warren Buffett so much?
When did I ever say I was a Saint?
When will you end your deflection, honey? Getting an answer out of you requires an Amytal interview. Look it up, sweetums.
Simple
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 1:04am.
Oil companies are doing extremely well. Exxon is posting record profits. Why do they need tax credits? Tax credits going to new companies sounds like a great idea to me.
A second ago, you said conservatives were on board with closing loopholes, now you say it's only liberals?
I wasn't aware of a federal film industry loophole. I know my state of CT offers a tax break to entice people to film in CT.
I don't love Warren Buffet, I just don't see why he deserves such scorn for speaking his mind.
You lib/progessive/Democrat
Submitted by killa37 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 1:32am.
You lib/progessive/Democrat dummies all have the same half-story!!! You're the first idiots to claim 'record profits' for EVIL oil, or EVIL anything!!! Have you ever read - as Paul Harvey said, 'the REST of the story', so that you could be informed about the RECORD TAXES that came about as a result of the 'record profits'?????
Get outta my face, meat....................you're a worthless and useless dope.
Record taxes?
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 10:06am.
What record taxes? Are they getting a 80 percent tax rate?
They pay record taxes because they're getting record profits. The rates aren't higher for them. So again, why do they need tax credits?
Are you really this stupid?
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 7:07pm.
So when oil prices are high, guess how much the oil Co makes per Gallon? .08, Guess what the Gov makes (depending on where you live) roughly .40, plus all applicable monies per dollar spent.
When prices are high, and you pay "sales tax" the fed and local Gov make more money, because more dollars are spent.
BTW Your larger oil Co's are paying somewhere north of 100million a day in Taxes. And nitwits like you wonder why fuel cost so much?
Also, name the Tax credits your referring to?
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 7:17pm.
Fact is, small oil co's are small businesses, and are subject to the same tax laws other small business are. Obama want to kill even the small oil Co's small business tax write-off's. Killing energy is his energy plan, wake the flip up.
Large oil Co's get no Tax benefits. they employ millions at good salaries, and are treated like terrorist. In-fact they have their own Tax code that the irs subjects them to, for extra spending monies.
Exxon?
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 7:35pm.
Exxon is a small, mom and pop oil corporation?
They were and were called by some other name...
Submitted by upcountrywater on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 8:36pm.
And they drilled, baby...Look what happens when decreased drilling occurs...if you can read a graph.
Yea man we be pumping at 1949 levels, TODAY...
The same year this was introduced.
You Didn't Build That.
Point,
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 9:00pm.
Laugh
Huh?
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 9:19pm.
Since when is the hyper-evil ExxonMobil the only game in town when it comes to oil?
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
You think any of this can sink in?
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 9:43pm.
The tired notion that America's oil and natural gas producers are all 'Big Oil' is misleading and outright false. You see, 90 percent of the nation's onshore and offshore oil and natural gas wells are drilled by independent producers. These producers - or small businesses - on average employ only 12 workers.
Simple, Dainbramaged...
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 7:10am.
The evil Exxon doesn't need tax incentives. Like every other corporation, they need a low tax rate, of, say, 17%, with NO loopholes and attempts by the government to manipulate their behavior. We have among the highest corporate tax rates in the world. And you and others whine incessantly about why so little investment takes place here.
I'm all for closing loopholes but I am also for a flat tax and overall tax simplification, concepts which are anathema to you, no doubt.
He deserves more scorn because he wants to be entrenched as an aristocrat and is whining for the government to raise barriers to entry FOR him so he can be entrenched as an aristocrat. He says that because he knows that useful idiots like yourself fall for such BS hook, line and sinker every time.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
I disagree
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 10:04am.
If I were the Vet, I'd ask you to source it. But I know thats your opinion, and not a statement of fact.
I never whined about why so little investment takes place.
I think if your only income is capital gains, y ou should pay the same tax rate as everyone else. Why should someone who works their ass off pay twice as much in taxes as someone who just shifts thier money around?
Because of the risk involved you loser
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 10:10am.
Without investment companies would not have CAPITAL to build factories, do research etc. Not everything pays off. There is risk involved. People need to be rewarded for taking risks not punished. Why do you resent successful people so much?
Obviously because you aren't successful.
Yes, and they do get rewarded
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 12:25pm.
by earning millions of dollars.
But asking that they pay more taxes is punishment?
Were you punished as a child by getting 3% less allowance?
As a child I was allowed to keep my allowance
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 12:32pm.
which was based on household chores that I did.
Yes, taking money away from someone who as earned is indeed punishment. It sure as hell isn't a reward.
vandamage*
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 1:11pm.
It is obvious that you have no interest in actually obtaining facts to back up your opinions. But when you are more open minded, (ha) , try reading. Many posters here have given you execellent sources of information. This is only one reason why oil companies have difficulties. Yes they make a lot of money. But they must also invest billions to find new sources, new permits, new equipment including rigs. Then they must share most of their profits with state governments and then the Feds..
http://www.ncsl.org/issues-research/budget/state-energy-revenues-update....
Taxes = Punishment?
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 3:18pm.
Blame the founding fathers.
You blame the founders for
Submitted by MightyMouth on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 3:47pm.
You blame the founders for income taxes? Really?
I didn't say income taxes
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 4:28pm.
I said taxes. They levied taxes. Why would they punish Americans like that?
This whole thread has been
Submitted by MightyMouth on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 4:35pm.
This whole thread has been discussing taxes on income. No? Have you slept or something since you started posting this gibberish?
Read all posts
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 5:23pm.
Me: But asking that they pay more taxes is punishment?
Were you punished as a child by getting 3% less allowance?
reply by Radical:
As a child I was allowed to keep my allowance
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 12:32pm.
which was based on household chores that I did.
Yes, taking money away from someone who as earned is indeed punishment. It sure as hell isn't a reward.
Gee VD
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 6:39pm.
It looks like YOU inserted income taxes in there. Allowance would indeed be an example of income would it not?
Oh my you really are twisting yourself up in little knots all over this thread aren't you?
Does it look like that?
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 7:38pm.
Because the word "income" doesn't appear. Mighty Mouth put it in. As in:
You blame the founders for
Submitted by MightyMouth on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 3:47pm.
You blame the founders for income taxes? Really?
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-bozell/2012/03/17/bozell-column-hard-...
VD
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 7:58pm.
Once again, you make absolutely no sense at all.
We aren't the voices in your head that understand what you're typing there dude.
Look, you Socialist thief -
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 9:33pm.
Everybody, regardless of income, should pay 17% of their income in taxes, and pay zero taxes on capital gains and investments. I don't believe in punishing and stealing from people just because they make more money.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Okay, we've established you aren't a history major
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 4:59pm.
Mika, is that you?
The Founding Fathers, really? You're blaming them for Income Taxes?
Do you even have a clue as to when the income tax was first implemented?
You're wearing both stupid slippers now, Cinderella.
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You aren't reading my posts
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 5:20pm.
And you are inserting words into them. Try inserting thoughts into your brain.
Now now, porn star
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 5:27pm.
Context, sweetie.
You still haven't answered the question....what do you consider to be YOUR area of expertise....because we've clearly established it isn't economics, nor history.
Try removing your head from your rear end this time.
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This may come as a shock
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 7:40pm.
But I'm not an expert on anything. I just like to argue.
In psychiatry, we call that borderline personality disorder.
Submitted by drsamherman on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 7:48pm.
As in cluster B, meaning common symptoms with attention-seeking, narcissism and (over)dramatic personality disorders.
Congratulations on your first clear statement. Now if you could bother making other coherent statements, perhaps I could start down the Axis I differential. Right now, I'm seeing a lot of obsessive/compulsive traits in you, Vannie.
Funny how those posts of yours, regular as rain in the Amazon basin, point out more about you than you might otherwise feel comfortable saying.
Until I make an appointment on your couch
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 8:55pm.
please spare me your diagnosis.
You do not know me.
Ah, the classic whine
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 9:33pm.
"You do not know me", the typical whine of Statist/Socialists who are getting their asses kicked up and down a thread.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Oh, but I do know you, VD darling.
Submitted by drsamherman on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 11:18pm.
Having worked in forensic psychiatry and neurology for nearly four decades, I have come across your type time and time and time again. You are like an old 33 RPM vinyl LP with a scratch. Same old song, same old track repeated ad nauseam. I have made diagnoses from less scratchings than your screed. I have committed patients to long term mental health treatment incarcerated by court order on far less that you have written. There is little or nothing in your posts and your style that I have not seen, read, heard or otherwise experienced in a lifetime of practicing psychiatry and neurology, mein schatz.
Keep going, dear. I know a lot more about you than you think.
As for a couch, I am not a Freudian psychoanalyst. I am a medical psychiatrist and neurologist. You, on the other hand, are quite well known.
And...you could not afford my rates.
So you didn't go to college?
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 8:04pm.
Why should I believe anything you write here?
You obviously don't have a clue about the difference between a tax, loophole, income, capital gains. To you, it's apparently just someone else's money , which you'd like to get your hands on via government entitlements.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
J
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 8:13pm.
VD said it himself, he likes to argue. Not debate, argue. Not discuss opinions based on facts, historical precedent, or moral beliefs. Just argue. The way a teenager does. With no purpose except to draw attention to himself in a negative way.
This is tiresome
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 8:49pm.
I have a college degree. That wasn't your original question. You asked what I was an expert on.
I do know the difference between a tax, a loophole, income, and capital gains.
You are saying that if you want higher taxes, you should avoid using loopholes. I am saying they are not the same thing. You are pretending that they are.
I have a college degree I
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 9:07pm.
I have a college degree
I would suggest your parents ask for a refund. Your posts here show a serious lack of knowledge about almost everything.
Hey porn star
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 9:16pm.
So what, you have a college degree, but you have no level of confidence in your major, is that right? You don't consider yourself to have a level of expertise in your formal training?
That's really sad. Just so you know, my undergraduate degree is in Business. My major was Finance, and my minors were Economics and Accounting. As is all of my professional experience. Ever filed an Accounting Due Diligence with the Justice Department for a multi-million dollar corporate merger, porn star? I have.
Now, as to your little statement of knowing the difference, between income tax, loopholes, and capital gains, I don't think so. I don't think you know doodly about it.
Did you, or did you not, write the following: Anyways, capital gains tax is, indeed, income. Yea, it is double taxed.
Please don't tell me you didn't write that....it is right up there, it's the post with your pejorative header "Ugh, Christ".
So please explain to me, porn star....how "capital gains tax is, indeed, income". Huh?
And PLEASE, don't put words into my mouth, or on my fingertips. Obviously, I am a far better writer (and thinker) than you are.
What you are reaching for here, is quite simple. But let me spell it out for you, since you have such a hard time with reading comprehension and writing cogently. The concept you are looking for is this:
If Bruce is advocating for higher taxes for the "wealthy", he should forgo the legal loopholes he is now enjoying and PAY MORE TAXES, instead of being a hypocrite with "do as I say, and not as I do."
You really need to learn to deal in facts.....and learn how to debate, instead of argue. Because everyone here is bloody sick and tired of your lame arguments.....so get with the program, or you soon will wear out your welcome.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Hhmm
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 9:32pm.
I think I might spend the rest of his time here, making fun of em? Since he dont take to education
Go for it Boudin*
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 9:53pm.
Cause I'm having trouble following the damage and keeping my zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Capital Gains is considered income
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 10:18pm.
http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=106799,00.html
7. The tax rates that apply to net capital gain are generally lower than the tax rates that apply to other income. For 2011, the maximum capital gains rate for most people is 15 percent. For lower-income individuals, the rate may be 0 percent on some or all of the net capital gain. Rates of 25 or 28 percent may apply to special types of net capital gain.
8. If your capital losses exceed your capital gains, you can deduct the excess on your tax return to reduce other income, such as wages, up to an annual limit of $3,000, or $1,500 if you are married filing separately.
He is specifically asking for higher income tax, not to raise taxes in general.
So you do use google after all, er some thing like it.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 10:56pm.
Wow a know it all, poured over the 70,000 pages of tax law did ya....
You Didn't Build That.
Taxes raised
Submitted by bkeyser on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 11:04pm.
in Obamacare alone, including a 3.8% increase in investment income.
Oh goody, you found a link.
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 11:18pm.
But did you, or did you not, write: Anyways, capital gains tax is, indeed, income.
Which is clearly nonsense.
Yes or no?
It's a binary decision tree, porn star.
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I'm so (not) impressed
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 9:35pm.
You have a college degree, yet you know virtually nothing about economics, the difference between capital gains and income, and history. For starters. I somehow find that very hard to believe.
But hey, since you decided to play that card, I have two (soon to be three). So what?
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Your college degree
Submitted by cocodrie on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 10:56pm.
Youra college degree must be from the Sam Hill Institute of Trash.
S.H.I.T. school degree signed by the dean Fuller Bull.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
Hey, jean-claude....this is your last chance.
Submitted by motherbelt on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 8:38pm.
Hey, jean-claude....I'm still waiting for your link to Sean Hannity saying he's in favor of abortion in the case of rape. Because, you know I did a search in Google, and in Bing, and in Yahoo, and guess what? No hits.
But you knew that didn't you?
Come on back when you're prepared for an adult discussion. You're "I just like to argue" is a waste of everyone's time. Feel free to PM me with that link, OK? Because I won't be following anything else you say.
How do I PM you?
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 8:52pm.
I'm new to this site.
Ihttp://www.newoxfordreview.org/note.jsp?did=0607-notes-hannity
You can find an interview with the reverend online elsewhere.
I do like to argue, I'm sorry I didn't use the more diplomatic word "Debate".
Thanks for understanding my punny name :-)
~Oh, good heavens
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 8:58pm.
Don't anybody tell it how to PM.
Bru
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 10:10pm.
It has difficulty replying to the correct person. I'm the one who called him on his "I like to argue" and here it is acting like it came from MB. It does that quite a bit.
Guess they didn't cover sites like this in middle school yet.
I'm not going to respond to everyone individually
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 10:45pm.
I don't care where the comment came from. MB repeated it.
Please forgive me WB but if I may...
Submitted by MightyMouth on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 10:58pm.
For liberal PM please bend over backwards until you encounter an orafice. Insert head... yell as loud as you can. We will all get the message. Thank you.
Bru, Lolz, U know dat....
Submitted by upcountrywater on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 11:02pm.
The way everyone here BENDS OVER BACKWARD, to sprinkle data on this skull full of mush.
So far it's not repeating it's self, that is coming up soon tho, standard run out of liberalism...... arg.
You Didn't Build That.
Find this button,
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 9:05pm.
And push
Not shocked in the least
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 8:48pm.
I'm not an expert on anything
Although I am a little surprised your aware of this. All one wonders now is, where is the humility with the stupidity?
"But I'm not an expert on
Submitted by MightyMouth on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 10:49pm.
"But I'm not an expert on anything. I just like to argue"
Well no sh*t there Sherlock! That's the only thing moonbat dipsticks who tarnish these threads do!
sheesh!!
For the thief Dainbramage2000
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 9:29pm.
I think if your only income is capital gains, y ou should pay the same tax rate as everyone else. Why should someone who works their ass off pay twice as much in taxes as someone who just shifts thier money around? You are absolutely filled with hatred and envy.
These lines of yours are ALL I need to see you are nothing more than a common thief who is nothing more than the most cowardly common thief of them all: you are too much of a coward to steal from successful people at gunpoint. So you want the government to steal from them FOR you.
People who "just shift their money around", nine times out of ten, worked their asses off to get the money they "shift around". Many retirees that are living off their life savings, IRAs and 401(k)s fall in that category. There are very few people in this country that haven't worked their asses off to get what they have. In many instances, the people you hate so much simply for being successful aren't any different from you and I, other than having more passion for their particular fields of endeavor.
Maybe you ought to concentrate on making positive contributions to society, rather than looking upon your fellow man with such hatred and envy, wishing to criminalize success and having the government punish people for daring to be the best they can be.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
...Stealing?
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 10:46pm.
What are you talking about?
You think taxing the middle class is A-OK, but taxing the rich is stealing?
You think people who are not rich don't work hard?
Yes VD, that is exactly what Unsane said.
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 10:51pm.
He said it's great to tax the middle class but stealing to tax from the rich. Yes indeed. And he said people who aren't rich don't work hard. Sure did.
And then he said Obama is his hero, the sky is green, and you are the most intelligent poster that has ever graced MD.
Now for the truth, you can't "argue" or "debate" worth a damn. You lie, distort, twist, and bungle the truth with every post. You contribute nothing to this site but idiocy. But hey, you prove the left is mindless and clueless.
Sorry Jer, I'll exclude you. But really, this guy is sad.
Aww, nuts!
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 11:11pm.
I never got picked for dodge ball either.
Jer
Scorecard
Submitted by Free Stinker on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 10:52pm.
Unsane: 23
Troll: 0
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Yes, stealing. And more.
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 11:02pm.
I think if you are a citizen of the United States, YOU PAY TAXES regardless. I want everyone in this country to pay 17% of their income - no loopholes, no breaks. Why is that so painfully hard to get through your head?
I think you wanting to tax successful people just because you don't like them because they make more money makes you a common thief. It makes you someone who wants to use the government to do something legally that you cannot do - steal.
Everybody works hard. From janitors making minimum wage to neurosurgeons and people like Bill Gates and, yes, Warren Buffett. If you get money you work for it, by and large.
Finally, there is no such thing as "class" in this country. People like you who divide people into "middle class", "upper class", "the rich", etc, are nothing more than Socialists or people with very severe problems with envy, or both. In this country, people move in and out of what YOU call "classes" ALL THE TIME.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Seriously we need a LIKE
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 11:14pm.
Seriously we need a LIKE button.
BrainDamaged just wants to confiscate peoples hard earned money. The "progressive" tax code we have now is REGRESSIVE.
As Unsane said, a flat tax of 17%, no deductions, no loopholes, across the board. EVERYONE gets taxed the same percentage.
And the Government can spend no more than what is collected so we need to break out the chain saws and start cutting spending and getting rid of bloated, useless Departments, Agency's what have you.
Nice and simple, do you get it BrainDamaged?
Scoob
Submitted by MrShy on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 11:40pm.
You and I need to make sure the beers are on us next time. Unsane is scoring at will with silky moves (see: spot-on sentences of amazing conservative wisdom) on this liberal MOVE-ON MOR-ON. :p
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Be careful, Shy -
Submitted by Unsane on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 10:19pm.
My memory is notoriously long. Especially when it comes to beer.
:)
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Hey Idiot...
Submitted by MightyMouth on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 11:11pm.
Do you know what the word 'Philanthropy' means? Most working class people can only help humanity on a person by person basis, but the EVIL rich can move mountians with wealth! You liberal commie bastards are all the same, judging a person by the amount of their wealth you don't have. You might as well accuse someone of taking air you could be breathing!
Take a hike commie!
Vandumbdumb
Submitted by MrShy on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 11:15pm.
"You think people who are not rich don't work hard?"
It's you pretending to be a mind reader, completely assuming he thinks not-rich people don't work hard, based on nothing he wrote in his post.
Meanwhile, you actually said -- didn't just think it for Unsane to guess -- rich people shift their money around and not much else. You wrote that, verbatim. Go look. Right above.
You see how this works, genius? Now are you aware of who is judging different groups and pitting them against each other?
No, I doubt you are.
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Great way to take me out of context
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 11:24pm.
Not all rich people just "shift their money around." But, if that is indeed all you are doing, why should you get a special tax break?
Flat tax won't work beacuse you will burden the poor with a heavier share of taxes, since the poor have to spend nearly all of thier income.
"Not all rich people just
Submitted by MrShy on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 11:39pm.
"Not all rich people just "shift their money around." But, if that is indeed all you are doing, why should you get a special tax break?"
And the general assumption (generalization and labeling) of the work ethic of a class of wealthier people vs. the not-as-wealthy continues full steam ahead for Vandumb.
All of us pounding away at the disconnect you have with common sense, and it's in one ear, out the other. Lightning fast, too, as there's not much in between.
Good freakin' LORD, you're galactically useless.
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The term, Shy
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 11:41pm.
....is "galactically stupid".
AKA "Hope Diamond".
Ah.....the good old days.
Ciao!
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This is what he said
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 11:45pm.
People who "just shift their money around", nine times out of ten, worked their asses off to get the money they "shift around".
Herman Cain and Rush all say, if you're not rich, its because you don't work hard enough.
Plenty of people who are not rich work hard. The implication here is that the rich should get a tax break because they worked their tail off to get it, and that the poor don't deserve such a break.
Cites, please
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 11:49pm.
.....for the Herman Cain & Rush quotes.
Or a YouTube video will suffice.
As we say, LINK OR SLINK.
Tick tock, porn star.
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This shouldn't be that hard
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Tue, 03/20/2012 - 1:18am.
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-10-05/news/30265175_1_herman-cain-p...
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201202210008
Not quite
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 03/20/2012 - 1:29am.
You: Herman Cain and Rush all say, if you're not rich, its because you don't work hard enough.
From your first link:
Unemployed Wall Street protesters only have themselves to blame for lacking a job, so says Herman Cain.
In your second link, at approximately 1:48:
"And speaking bluntly, the people who don't do well have only themselves to blame".
Not quite what you said, eh, porn star? You selectively hear things, apparently. What does your dead grandma say to you?
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From the same article
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Tue, 03/20/2012 - 1:34am.
"Don't blame Wall Street, don't blame the big banks, if you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself. It is not someone's fault if they succeeded, it is someone's fault if they failed," the ex-Godfather's Pizza CEO declared.
There are people who work very hard and are still poor. But conservative media figues want to paint the rich as the only hard workers in America, and the poor are just not working hard enough. That is the idea.
Anyways, I found a fascinating exchange between Rush and a caller , about labor. And a link to the Lincoln speech in question that proves Rush has no idea what he's talking about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dngKhBq39J0
And Cain is spot on
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 03/20/2012 - 1:49am.
To paraphrase...."It's not the banks' fault if you're poor. It IS your fault if you've failed!" (nothing there about "not working HARD ENOUGH, is there?). He's attacking the liberal boogy-man of the mean old banks! Sheesh, could you be any denser?
As for your blather of "the rich are the only hard workers in America as a conservative media meme".....you are just full of *****. You actually slurp this kool-aid? That's really, really pathetic.
BTW, for someone who is supposedly college educated...."anyways" (which I've seen you post several times) is just ignorant. Although perhaps that's acceptable up there in CT? Are you all cretins up there? Seems so to me.
Grow up. Learn to think. Or not....it doesn't matter. You've overstayed your amusement value here. Toodles, liberal bot. As Cajun says....."sto'bought". As I say, no mas.
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What do you think the implication is
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Tue, 03/20/2012 - 2:21am.
if its your fault you've failed, and are not rich, if its not "you dont work hard enough?
Anyways [sic]
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 03/20/2012 - 11:07am.
You duck again. Or chicken. Either way.
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Think about
Submitted by Unsane on Tue, 03/20/2012 - 12:13pm.
Concepts alien to you: personal responsibility and accountability.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
A conversation with VD.
Submitted by Trix Rabbit on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 11:42pm.
Venereal Damage: "Nnnn Duh!?!? Not all rich people just shift their money around."
TR: "Correct dumbass. Just the plutocrats like Soros and Buffet do."
Venereal Damage: "Nnnn Duh!?! What's a plootokrat?
TR: "Look it up college boy."
Venereal Damage: "The poor have to spend nearly all of their income"
TR: "Correct again dumbass! They spend their income on crap they don't need like i-pads, SUV's, and lattes at Starbucks. Meanwhile Barky's administration supplements their already spent income on foodstamps and housing that's not fit for a dog.
Venereal Damage: "Nnnn Duh!?!?!
TR: "STHU already! You are really boring!
For the MSM: In your pomp and all your glory, you're a poorer man than me. As you lick the boots of death born out of fear.
Ian Anderson "Wind up"
Trix
Submitted by MrShy on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 11:52pm.
After reading his first paragraph, it was so mind-blowingly dense my NB reflex kicked in and I responded to it post haste.
After posting, I read his second one about the poor not having enough. That one actually topped the first one in stupidity (yep, it's possible) but I was exhausted by then and was confident someone else here would "address" it. :)
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Shy,
Submitted by Trix Rabbit on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 11:55pm.
Any time, my friend.
For the MSM: In your pomp and all your glory, you're a poorer man than me. As you lick the boots of death born out of fear.
Ian Anderson "Wind up"
For the Socialist Dainbramage2000
Submitted by Unsane on Tue, 03/20/2012 - 12:10pm.
Flat tax won't work beacuse you will burden the poor with a heavier share of taxes, since the poor have to spend nearly all of thier income. You are clearly unfamiliar with the concept of budgeting. Dainbramage2000, budgeting is - forget it.
You have zero conception of what it means to be poor in this country. Nine times out of ten - and I have seen this up close and personal - the poor in this country are so by choice and by a long series of very poor financial decisions. I don't know a poor person that doesn't have many more material possessions than do I. Most poor people I know are constantly upgrading their electronics at a rate far faster that I, for example.
The absolute best place in the world to be poor is the United States. Bar none.
I would suggest before you type such stupidity again, you look into what it means to be poor in this country.
Besides, government is NOT a charity. Nor is government a tool used to get even with people by punishing and stealing from successful people because YOU have an envy problem. If you feel so sorry for the poor, YOU go out and start a charity for them.
Finally, you do not have any clue about economics. The tax which shifts the heaviest burden on the poor is actually the sales tax. Consumption taxes are the most regressive (more burdensome on those with the least ability to pay) of any tax. A 17% flat tax is what would be called a "progressive tax": a millionaire would pay $170,000 in taxes, whereas someone scraping by on $20,000 a year would pay $3400 in taxes a year. In both cases, both pay 17% of their income (and if the millionaire doesn't know how to manage their money, he'll be plenty burdened - it can and does happen).
I see no reason why 47% of the population of the United States gets a free ride. I make a modest income and I am very much with the 53% of people who pay the freight for this country. The way I see it, every citizen needs to pay taxes. If not, they shouldn't be able to vote.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
17%, eh?
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 10:12am.
Good luck funding the military on that.
Every flat tax proposed has a national sales tax, specifically to combat the problem of government "revenue."
Did you know the top tax rate was once 90% in this country? And America still thrived?
Let's just cut taxes to 0%, while we're at it. I'm sure everything will turn out great.
Of course , the poor have difficulty affording education, health care, and housing. But they have cell phones. So they're doing ok.
Also, everyone buys things...and everyone pays tax one way or another (sales, gas, property).
But to you, its a free ride.
Write your Congressman. Your Tea Party Congressman. See what they say about your 17% idea.
Thrived?
Submitted by Free Stinker on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 10:42am.
Your ignorance is breathtaking in scope. No knowledge, facts or logic can penetrate your beliefs.
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My, my, my, you are a dense
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 12:08pm.
My, my, my, you are a dense one. We could easily fund the military on 17%. We just have to cust the size of the Government.
Two Departments that can be eliminated that no one would miss (except those feeding off of it) is the Dept of Energy and Dept of Education. There is so much waste (even in the Defense Dept) and duplication of functions that Billions upon Billions can be saved.
But of course you don't care about working smarter ( we know that by your posts), you just want to confiscate from those that succeed to salve your guilt.
Please write to everyone in Congress
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 12:58pm.
And tell them they are dense because they are not proposing cutting the tax rate to 17%.
What makes you think I don't
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 1:44pm.
What makes you think I don't BrainDamaged? How do you know I do not write my Congress critter (a Republican thankfully) or interact on his Facebook page and Twitter and let him know how this constituent wants him to vote?
Cuts!
Submitted by Unsane on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 10:39pm.
I can think of ways the DoD can save money.
The consolidation of logistical chains is one big way. Unfortunately, recent developments in the military make this a bit trickier. Still, it could be done.
The Departments of Energy and Education are good starts, but I'd keep right on going. The Department of Ag is FAR bigger than it was when we had many more farmers! And did you know that 80% of the Department of Commerce's budget consists of NOAA?
With a Constitutional amendment, we could privatize the Postal Service. I'd be willing to bet that would make the delivery of mail even more efficient.
I could go on... :)
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Dainbramage2000 -
Submitted by Unsane on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 10:33pm.
Oh, we can MORE than fund the military on that. Do keep in mind that when you keep taxes low and simple, it encourages people of all walks of life to invest more, and spend more. Thus broadening the tax base as more people join in and participate in the economy as more jobs are created. Ever hear of the Laffer Curve? The Laffer Curve is - forget it.
I'd go further: I'd put that in the Constitution so Congress can't tinker with it. And it will be a very short and sweet tax code that everyone can point to and plan around, thus leading to both short- and long term investment.
Naturally you throw out crap without backing it up. Steve Forbes flat tax plan (the inspiration for my 17% flat tax idea, I voted for Forbes in 1996 and 2000) did NOT have a national sales tax attached. So you are caught in that lie. No wonder you throw something out there without backing it up.
The top tax rate was once 90%, and no one paid it, because people affected by it had a cure: they simply stopped working before it got to that point. No one is going to work if 90% of their income is going to be stolen by hate-filled, greedy ingrates such as yourself. Yes, America still kept going, but if the tax rate were lower, it would be even better off.
Nowhere did I say cut taxes to 0%. Strawman.
How can the poor not afford education? It IS "free" after all. They can send their kids to school without paying tuition. And if they can't pay for a doctor and housing, maybe they ought to not get an iPhone and settle for a cheaper phone. You know, budget.
If you feel SO SORRY for the poor, you are free in this country to get off your lazy ass and START A CHARITY FOR THEM. The government is NOT a frigging charity or babying agency. Pay for your own damn doctor; I have to pay for mine. Pay for your own damn housing; I have to pay for mine. And guess what? Sometimes I have to do without the finer things in life. I cannot willy-nilly get a new vehicle, but I pay for the necessities in life without whining for other people to pay for my living expenses.
My Congressman is Lloyd Doggett, who is a hate-filled, angry, envy-driven Socialist thief as you are. He believes he should be treated like a medieval prince who occasionally throws a few crumbs to his subjects every so often. Idiots in the People's Republic of Austin love the guy. I hope he loses his ass in the next election. Couldn't happen to a better guy.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Unsane
Submitted by MrShy on Mon, 03/19/2012 - 11:05pm.
One big, fat........ LIKE.
And look at the clueless nimrod's response, above.
Literally, liberals are another species from another planet communicating, thinking and "rationalizing" in another realm entirely.
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Well, I'm home from working a
Submitted by killa37 on Tue, 03/20/2012 - 1:06am.
Well, I'm home from working a 12 hour day today - it was just one of those days that happens like that - when you've got concrete and rain and trucks 3 hours late and bla bla bla...........you can't leave until the work is done. Anyway, I've come home, taken a much-needed shower, fed my idiot cats, mixed a black cherry/vodka, and set about to check out the news. And here is this thread - TOTALLY BLOWN UP by the VERY DUMB VACUOUS DUMMY.........and in every way possible. And I notice that there are a lot more 'players' here than when it all started, also!!!
I think the most 'honest' thing that Vein Drip said was 'I like to argue'..................and I have contended - from day one when he showed up here - that he is an 'attention whore/slut' - and that he'll continue to say anything and take on any topic in order to deceive himself into thinking that he is a 'player'...............to the point that he accepts the abuse and disrespect and disdain that he so rightfully deserves from all of the other posters. I don't think it matters one bit to him what kind of response he gets to his moronic and idiotic, and pointless and meaningless, statements - just as long as he's GETTING A REPSONSE!!!
I could go waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay up in the thread in an attempt to slice'n'dice this dimwit about the last 'answer' he gave to me, but it's not worth my time - especailly after a day like today. And, on top of that, I think that EVERYBODY here got in their own 'licks' on this scatter-brained numbskull, so I don't need to 'pile on'.
And, yeah, Von Dupe...............I'm STILL sayin' (Obamaspeak) that you have a pathetic life, and I'm STILL sayin' that you're the stooooooooooopidist poster I've EVER seen on NB!!! In fact, you're too stooooooooooopid to KNOW how stupid you are.
Envy = pure evil
Submitted by Unsane on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 9:51pm.
Envy is the dumbest emotion humanity has to offer and has killed more people and caused more suffering than anything else I can think of.
Not surprisingly, you are RULED by envy.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
May African killer bees invade Bon Jovi's hives, verily.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 11:46am.
BTW, winter fluke (no, not that fluke) season opens next weekend in NJ and I plan to be there as always. One of the prime spots for the party boats to anchor up on the Navesink is right in front of BJ's palace... I'm sure it pisses him off.
One of BJ's ex-neighbors on the Navesink was Geraldo Rivera. Geraldo's black sailboat 'The Cuckold' was moored off his property in the river. Sometimes the party boats would pass close enough to be able to chuck bait squid onto it. Everyone laughed and had a good time.
Wrecking Ball
Submitted by djwolf12 on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 12:46pm.
Actually, the title of this album should be "All Hail King Obama, now Pass me the Metamucil!"
Wolf, maybe you, too, have
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 2:15pm.
Wolf, maybe you, too, have noticed that everytime 'the Bruce' plays and sings (is that singing??), he seems extremely constipated and uncomfortable???
Have you heard that song, Killa?
Submitted by djwolf12 on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 2:22pm.
We take care of our own is "Badlands" part II. Very repetative, no real ground-breaking stuff, nothing more than a "lets just put something together real quick to get 11 stars from Sexist Conservative Woman hater Matt Taibbi from Rolling Stone Magazine".
Eric Cartman meet Brucie boy
Submitted by gfrrman on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 12:07am.
Brucie boy is just doing the Eric Cartman from South Park where Eric believes he can stick food up his arse and crap out his mouth!! It's just that Brucie boy is so full of excrement that he can't get it all out!! One of the MOST overrated of ALL time. Personally, I have always thought he SUCKS!!
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Alternate Titles
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 2:30pm.
Instead of I am the Walrus, Spingy could sing one called I am the Gerbil.
Entertainment Lefties, Gerbils to Baraka.
Definitely going to look into
Submitted by LinTaylor on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 2:53pm.
Definitely going to look into this book. Of course, part of the problem is that right now I'm staying with my aunt, who's perilously liberal, and would probably throw a fit if she saw me taking it up to the checkout at Barnes & Noble.
Bon Jovi's non-statement!
Submitted by seen the light on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 3:52pm.
HAHAHA! Does anyone notice that his own statement is more damning than not saying anything at all?
"Jon is scrupulous about paying his fair share of taxes".
Well, not exactly. Just stating it doesn't make it so. You have to back up your charge, and this line doesn't.
"The exemption for raising honeybees existed long before he purchased that land, and he continues to employ a beekeeper and raise honeybees.”
Yes! Exactly! That's why he bought it! Now, if he bought the land BEFORE the tax exemption existed, he would have a case. But that's NOT the case.
When you stand up to liberals, they aren't very smart. Just bullies with a bigger microphone. Let's keep exposing them!
If anyone is wondering who bought that $500 of Bon Jovi 'honey',
Submitted by SickofLibs on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 5:22pm.
it was his hero, Jon Corzine.
I guess that would explain why BJ hasn't left the hive in quite a while.
SoL, Missed that but, saw this..
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 12:02am.
The tax man/ i don't know where 1.4 billion is/ he ah nother democrat that needs some reinforced concrete warehousing time : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNRy8DPAmec
You Didn't Build That.
Bono The Hypocrite
Submitted by WhatTheHuh on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 5:39pm.
"They defended themselves by saying they’re an “advocacy and campaigning organization,” not an actual provider of help to the poor."
I thought the reporting of U2 moving all their money out of Ireland (their home!) would garner more attention than it actually did, but nobody batted an eye. In that instance the hypocrisy was so glaring. Here you had a man telling first world countries to give to third world countries, and then going out of his way to pay taxes (which go into the coffers of the governments he was lobbying.) Simply incredible. The above quote explains it all. Liberals don't want to affect change with their own money. They simply want to use taxpayers' money. And liberals in the entertainment industry think using their name to raise millions of dollars takes the place of actually donating their own. But the media will never report on the hypocrisy.
When I was in Ireland this
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 5:48pm.
When I was in Ireland this past summer, on a couple of the tours I went on they did not think to highly of Bono.
This is the sad part of it all........
Submitted by djwolf12 on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 7:10pm.
They are willing to spread out donated money to the cause but NEVER their own.
In other words
Submitted by Unsane on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 9:52pm.
"Give us your f****** money." - Bob Geldof, referring to LiveAid 85, the closest thing the event had to a mission statement
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
This is what always cracks me up
Submitted by panzerakc on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 6:55pm.
"The New York Post reported Bono’s ONE nonprofit took in $14,993,873 in public donations in 2008. Of that, $184,732 was distributed to three charities, according to the IRS filing. Meanwhile, more than $8 million was spent on executive and employee salaries. They defended themselves by saying they’re an “advocacy and campaigning organization,” not an actual provider of help to the poor."
If the hypocrisy of distributing a measly one percent of funds collected for charity to actual charities is pointed out to these folks, they immediately go into a defensive mode that has as its main talking point, "You don't understand!"
Too "nuanced" for those of us who think they are raging hypocrites, I suppose.
Obama soundtrack?
Submitted by Kevin Groenhagen on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 8:12pm.
"Bruce Springsteen’s new album has been hailed as a soundtrack for Obama’s re-election, especially the song 'We Take Care of Our Own.'"
Considering that Obama's brother is living in a hut in Kenya and earning just a few dollars a month, I don't see how that song could be included on an Obama soundtrack.
This is pure unadulterated proof that liberal
Submitted by gmaniac1 on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 8:42pm.
sympathies for others is a farce. Not that we didn't already know it but it is like communism itself. You have a select few at the top who have all the luxuries while the minions below act like little Olivers waiting for someone to provide for their laziness. These entertainers are nothing more than elitist political advocates that do no want to share their wealth.
On Bruce
Submitted by Unsane on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 9:59pm.
Amusingly, this "man of the people", Bruce Springsteen, has had his new CD ADVERTISED for sale in 30 second spots. And - wait for it - I have seen the ads run on CNBC!!!
IMHO, once you have to resort to taking out TV ads to announce your album is out, you are BEYOND done. Bruce, you may as well release "Bruce Springsteen Greatest Hits" to officially announce you are done.
Now that I think on it, union man, didn't you write a song back in the 1980s whining about how small town America was dying because factories were closing up shop? I don't suppose the reason for those manufacturing facilities closing - or part of the reason, anyway - were and are the policies you slavishly support?
I always thought you overrated, Bruce, and now, you are just a tired old hack who got his and wants to raise barriers to entry for others so you can be firmly entrenched in a lifestyle your fans can only dream of. If not for the useful idiots of the world, you'd be just another amusing has-been.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Worth repeating
Submitted by Unsane on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 10:02pm.
"Music of rebellion makes you wanna rage,
But it's made by millionaires that are really twice your age."
- Porcupine Tree, "The Sound of Muzak"
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Seriously, we need a LIKE
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 11:31pm.
Seriously, we need a LIKE button!!!!!!!!!!
I saw Bon Jovi commercial the other day..
Submitted by Radical1979 on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 9:26am.
He referred to himself as a philanthropist. I wish these guys would pay their "fair share" of real estate taxes before spouting their mouths off about the evil capitalists and how wonderful they themselves are.
Good morning, you
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 3:34pm.
Good morning, you Irish/roooooooooooooooooooooooskie lassie!!!
Jason Mattera unwittingly interviews Bono Impersonator
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 12:59pm.
Why Should I just trust this guy, again?
Source?
Submitted by sentry_99 on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 1:13pm.
You do know what a source is don't you?
Apparently he doesn't.
Submitted by Free Stinker on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 1:42pm.
Apparently he doesn't.
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Or here's this
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 6:13pm.
from The Blaze
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/u2-singer-bono-grilled-on-camera-over-ba...
Don't feed the metallic asteroid.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 2:14pm.
.
Breitbart took it down
Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 6:09pm.
It's the last link....You'll find it doesn't work.
http://www.breitbart.com/Search?q=Mattera
This changes what?
Submitted by sentry_99 on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 9:56pm.
Anything refuting what Mattera has written about?