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Bozell Column: Hollywood's Soda Pop Statism

By Brent Bozell | December 03, 2011 | 08:44

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The Hollywood elite's concern for the children stops at the water's edge of physical fitness. They simply do not touch the subject of moral fitness. On The Huffington Post, former entertainment executive Laurie David offered this pre-holiday piece of encouragement: “Thanksgiving Conversation Starter: Is It Time to Ban Soda Ads on Prime Time Television?”

At the same time that the broadcast networks are allowing – even advocating -- the removal of all limitations on nudity or profanity on TV, at any hour of the day, Ms. David is most upset about those old polar-bear ads for Coca-Cola: “Knowing what I know now about the effects of sugary drinks on children the image of kids chugging down a Coke [or in this case polar bear cubs] evokes the same feelings I'd get if they were taking a deep drag on cigarettes.”

David, the ex-wife of sleazy HBO comedy star Larry David, was dead serious about forcing a soda-ad ban on TV. “Corporations are no longer allowed to advertise cigarettes on TV due to the potential impact it could have on our kids.” She insisted that TV banned hard-liquor ads voluntarily. “Can you imagine! It is now time to institute a similar TV advertising ban on soda. We are in the midst of a health epidemic. Someone has to start caring.”

Someone has to start caring? How rich coming from anyone in Hollywood. The Huffington Post is not careful about publishing “facts” generated by Hollywood activists, so many of which are simply not true.  Try this bizarre claim: for teenagers, “soft drinks are the number one source of calories in their diet.” That makes no scientific sense and no common sense. But then, the last time Laurie David made news, she and singer Sheryl Crow were demanding everyone only use one square of toilet paper per restroom visit to save the planet (I kid
you not), so sense has never been expected from her.

David and her preferred experts, the Rudd Center for Food Policy and Obesity at Yale, don’t draw the line at carbonated drinks. Oh, no. They also object to children being encouraged in any way to consume Kool-Aid, Sunny D, Capri Sun, Gatorade, and even Vitamin Water.

David’s not the first critic to compare sugary drinks to tobacco, even though the former is not addictive or harmful to your health when taken in moderation. The New York Times asked last year “Is soda the new tobacco?” They wanted taxes and warning labels “to help dam the river of sugared drinks that Americans pour into ever-fatter bodies each year.” The headline read: “Soda: A Sin We Sip Instead of Smoke?”

It amazes me how some find “sin” in soda pop, but no “sin” in televised profanity and sexual gymnastics. David reports the American Academy of Pediatrics found five years ago that young children and teens view more than 3,000 ads a year, on television alone, and "that young children -- younger than 8 years -- are cognitively and psychologically defenseless against advertising." Dr. Steven Abrams, a nutrition expert with the academy, advised “we should make it easier for kids to make the right choices. Kids are easily influenced by what they see.”

So using that monkey-see, monkey-do logic, it must also be argued that young children are defenseless against the avalanche of televised sewage in between the commercials. When two teenaged female characters on “Glee” engage in a lesbian make-out session or sing “I Kissed A Girl,” how is that processed any differently by a “psychologically defenseless” 8-year-old child? Is any rational person willing to deny that raunchy teen sex scenes or bloody violence or profanity are more objectionable and more difficult for a child to process than animated polar bears sipping out of Coke bottles?

Earth to Ms. David: You missed the boat. The same bohemians who object to any limitation on broadcasting content when it’s “art” made by Hollywood will support an “Interagency Working Group on Food Marketed to Children” in the government that recommends commercials be restricted unless the food manufacturers meet strict nutritional requirements.

An industry group called the Sensible Food Policy Coalition answers that this form of censorship would prohibit the advertising of 88 of the 100 most commonly consumed foods – including carrot juice, 2-percent milk, peanut butter, wheat bread, scrambled eggs, canned corn, and canned tuna. These kinds of food are subsidized under the federal Women, Infants, and Children (WIC) nutrition program, but they should be banned from TV?   

This plan was not greeted well at a House hearing in mid-October. David was outraged that this interagency working group in the government was caving in to industry lobbying pressure when all this infernal advertising for sugary drinks should be forbidden.   

The food industry has proposed to self-regulate under its Children’s Food and Beverage Advertising Initiative and devote most of its marketing on “better-for-you foods.” Let’s hope they are more sincere and effective than Hollywood with its commitments to create “better-for-you television” for families to watch.

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Death to America! Death to the Great Satan!!

Submitted by MidAmerica on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 10:02am.

Nothing to do with obesity.

This is just more tightening of the government control screws on freedom and control over corporations.

  In the Leftist's utopia government bureaucrats will decide all media content.  In fact, government will decide the accessibility of every product or service available to persons in this country.

Kim Jong IL and Hugo Chavez are smiling.

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take 'em to court

Submitted by MidAmerica on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 9:12am.

When Hollywood shows sexually suggestive scenes or inappropriate conduct/dress of underage children why doesn't someone sue them for child porn?  

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You gotta love lefties

Submitted by motherbelt on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 9:15am.

Showing sex, straight and gay, as a "normal" part of high school life has no effect on kids (if anything, it's an opportunity for a "discussion" with parents).

But kids are helpless in the face of a 30-second Coke ad, and parents are incapable of having THAT discussion and guiding their choices, so that has to be banned.

Lefties are all for parents making decisions about what their kids see on TV....except when they're not.

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The horror!

Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 9:27am.

I'm sure Ms David would rather her child (if she allowed one the right to live) have an abortion sooner than drink a can of soda pop.

Americans keeping their own earnings is a Civil Right! Demand your Civil Rights!
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You must not drink sugery drinks

Submitted by ohio granny on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 9:27am.

But sex at earlier and earlier ages ok, watch all the violent shows and movies ok, pushing lesbian and homosexual behavior ok. No amount of violence or sexual content is too much. BUT DON'T YOU DARE ADVERTISE SUGARY DRINKS.

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I'd bet my last $100

Submitted by AGreer on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 9:09pm.

that David is pro Roman Polanski. Sodomizing a 14 yo is better than feeding her sugar.

I wonder if Whoopi Goldberg will announce that since it's corn syrup, "it's not sugar, sugar". Doubt it, that makes more sense than her "Rape,rape" comment on Polanski.

Mental disorder !

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You must not drink sugery drinks

Submitted by ohio granny on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 9:27am.

But sex at earlier and earlier ages ok, watch all the violent shows and movies ok, pushing lesbian and homosexual behavior ok. No amount of violence or sexual content is too much. BUT DON'T YOU DARE ADVERTISE SUGARY DRINKS.

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David Suzuki

Submitted by Kleenex on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 9:35am.

Has anyone seen the latest ad from PBS lefty David Suzuki? He tells children that Santa has left the north pole because of global warming but says he can get Santa to come back if they encourage their parents to send in some money for the cause.

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They hafta drink soda, the

Submitted by ant on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 9:58am.

They hafta drink soda, the libtards across the pond have already deemed water insufficient for hydration of the body. BTW, when we are all 'accustomed' to mo and the government's dietary ration of bread and a 1/2 pint of 1% milk, all we'll need is one square of toilet paper.

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Let's ban movie trailers.

Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 12:25pm.

Let's ban movie trailers.

Non, je ne regrette rien. "You aren't angry because I might be a racist, you're angry because you know I'm right".
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Laurie David erred in failing to frame her closing pronoucement

Submitted by Jer on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 12:28pm.

in a manner similar to the headlined query in her essay ["It is", etc. rather than "Is it" etc.].

That aside, her article does indeed offer some provocative arguments buttressed by well-sourced information--including approximately a dozen links, or, to state it differently, approximately a dozen more links than contained in Bozell's scolding response--which deserve consideration somewhat more serious than dismissive and deflective comparisons to the televising of "sexual gymnastics".

The claim regarding teens and soft drinks (apparently so disconcerting to Bozell it is pooh-poohed as counter factual, bizarre, and devoid of both common and scientific sense) is actually based on specific data published in the Journal of the American Pediatric Association. If Bozell is in possession of contradictory authority, he should cite same rather than pinning his rebuttal to an irrelevant toilet paper remark which most had immediately recognized for being the satirical quip it was, and as it was later confirmed by Crow.

Jer

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Reality

Submitted by Kleenex on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 12:51pm.

How about just letting parents decide what their kids can eat or drink? It's worked through the centuries and it's really the only option anyway since govt can't be omnipresent.

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A very good argument...

Submitted by Jer on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 1:04pm.

and clearly the best argument if it were still working.

The fact that it seems not to be working so well of late is what gives a degree of credence to the call for alternate approaches--or at least to make them part of the conversation.  I'm not in favor of an outright ban on TV advertising.  There may be some reasonable steps short of that which would make sense, however.

Jer

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This may come as a shock to

Submitted by ant on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 1:17pm.

This may come as a shock to you, Jer, and the rest of the Nanny-statists, but teens still smoke cigarettes and do drugs. So, how's that working out for ya? What 'alternatives' are left when keeping things legal and illegalizing/banning result in the same effects?
I'd rather not hear 'obesity/health' complaints from a leftist bureaucracy that pays an administrator 905,000 dollars but doesn't have money for Phys Ed programs, and goes on complaining about products that contain high fructose corn syrup, an entity that they've subsidized over the years.

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I don't know, ant...

Submitted by Jer on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 1:27pm.

ask the Nanny-statist Bozell who advocates government regulation of broadcast content.

Jer

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I believe that you are

Submitted by ThePickle on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 2:32pm.

I believe that you are attempting the whole "you guys do it too" argument, but unfortunately said argument contains a glaring logical inconsistency, wherein one lauds the actions of one group and then demeans the action of another for engaging in the same activity.

All in all a semantically null rebuttal.

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The worse the state of this country,---

Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 2:42pm.

the more important it is that on site libs and Dems ding, berate, and accuse conservatives, especially conservative authors tied to NewsBusters, of being in error.

Deflection from the disaster that is Obama and his administration, dontcha know?

MD

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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Talk about deflection! Brent

Submitted by Rupert Cadell on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 4:21pm.

Talk about deflection! Brent Bozell decided that this issue was important enough to merit writing a lengthy editorial. And he chose to write said editorial in a forum with a discussion board feedback feature. So now our rebutting the logic of that editorial is just our way of deflecting from the rather crushing disappointment that has been the Obama administration? Poppycock. Bozell has taken an uncompromisingly hardline social/cultural conservative stance for years. I see no reason that those of us who are adamantly opposed to such a stance shouldn't say so.

 

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Well, Rupe, you might have a point but for the fact---

Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 5:02pm.

you talk out of your biased ass.

What, exactly, has a soft line social/cultural liberal stance done for the state of either the economy or the country?

Have a list handy, there, do you?

MD

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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If you wish to debate the

Submitted by Rupert Cadell on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 7:31pm.

If you wish to debate the merits of various liberal social causes - reproductive rights, feminism in general, public education, gay rights, the fallacy of moral absolutism, etc. - I'd be happy to join you on a forum created for that purpose.

But note well that my rebuttal here was not to champion any particular left or right cause but to point out the alarming disingenuousness of your post above. Let's rewind 6 years and imagine that a well-known liberal columnist wrote something about, oh, I don't know, gay marriage. Along comes a conservative poster who, in a pretty darn respectful manner (though he'll surely be branded a troll anyway), disagrees with the writer's position. Along comes the liberal vanguard to pick apart his rebuttal. One such responder says "You're just complaining about gay rights and your support of DOMA to distract from Bush's failed presidency!"

Wait, what?

See my point. Your suggestion that to engage with Bozell's argument - on a topic that HE chose to write about - was a diversion from Obama's failures was transparent and uncalled for. That was my only point.

 

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No need to be so detailed in

Submitted by ant on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 8:44pm.

No need to be so detailed in your first paragraph, just call the forum " The agenda of America's Socialist infiltrators and their decades long plan to bring down society" and that'll about cover all your liberal beliefs.

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I see nothing from liberals ---

Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 8:57pm.

BUT deflection on any subject that could reflect ill on Obama - with the exception of telling outright lies instead of bothering with deflection.

There are NO merits to ANY liberal social causes, and any debate with you would elicit nothing more than stale talking points.

As far as your 'rebuttal', you make a point of making no point.

You are a liberal dork.

It is now your turn to reply back with charges of ad hominem attacks and name calling being used as surrogates for the ability to carry on a rational, reasoned debate.

Save your fingers; I've heard it before, and it impresses me not.

MD

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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Not exactly, Pickle...

Submitted by Jer on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 3:38pm.

My response to ant was to implicitly point out the folly of casually slinging the "Nanny Statist" label on thin assumptions about my views, when Bozell has provided more than ample evidence of his embrace of nanny statism in the film and broadcast industry. I haven't weighed in on those latter issues which Brent has raised in the past, and I certainly haven't demeaned him for doing so (unless my earlier reference to nanny statism is regarded as such).

Jer

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I have researched the PTC and

Submitted by ThePickle on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 4:01pm.

I have researched the PTC and have seen that the vast majority of their work revolves around public awareness campaigns and attempting to have the FCC hold those that violate existing standards accountable for their actions.

This is not to say that Mr. Bozell and the PTC have not been active in seeking further regulatory oversight by the government as it pertains the content of the shows broadcast over the public airwaves.

It should also be noted that the PTC has also been instrumental in the passing of legislation as it pertains to al la carte cable that allows for those that wish to opt either out or in to channels they do or do not wish to have to pay for. While some characterize this as further government interference when it comes to 1st amendment issues, it in fact allows those that do not wish to pay for channels they choose not to watch, be they risqué channels or Christian channels, the ability to do so.

As to the Nanny State label, when you see another person tossing the appellation about with obvious score and derision and then you in turn use the same phrase to "make a point" I have trouble believing that you weren't sure whether or not is was "demeaning".

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Pickle, you mean ant scorned and derided and demeaned

Submitted by Jer on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 5:52pm.

me? What could possibly have justified such a withering personal attack against me, and why didn't you object to his ad hominem response to my exceedingly benign comment?

Jer

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If you would carefully read

Submitted by ThePickle on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 6:14pm.

If you would carefully read my previous response you would see that I neither supported nor condemned your use of the term Nanny Stater, I merely commented that your comment, wherein you expressed some doubt as to whether or not your use of the term Nanny Stater could be viewed as "demeaning", was somewhat less than believable.

As for unnecessary personal attacks, while I generally try not to use them, I rarely go after folks that make them. If he talks smack to you please feel free to talk it right back to him and be assured that I for one won't 'call you on it'.

As for me, I may, now and again, refer to someone as a "dumba$$" but if called on it I would be willing to provide an detailed explanation on the words deeds and ideas that said "dumba$$" used and/or conveyed that led me to the conclusion. :)

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I did none of those things,

Submitted by ant on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 6:19pm.

I did none of those things, merely making a point. The same hate and scorn I would hold for some thieving, incompetent bureaucrat pig like a Ms. Ackermann or a hypocritical, thieving POS like MO does not translate to my Democrat acquaintances, like you, Jer.

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I know, ant...

Submitted by Jer on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 6:34pm.

I'm just ragging on Pickle a bit due to his characterization of the use of the term which he had made in an earlier post:

As to the Nanny State label, when you see another person tossing the appellation about with obvious scor(n) and derision...

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-bozell/2011/12/03/bozell-column-holly...

I'm not upset with either of you.

Jer
 

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Actually, it was not Jerer

Submitted by Rupert Cadell on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 4:14pm.

Actually, it was not Jerer but Mr. Bozell who first tried to play the "You do it too" card by comparing physical fitness with "moral fitness." As far as I can see, Jer's comments were simply engaging with that comparison.

And the comparison is the very definition of apples and oranges; it holds no water whatsoever. As Jer quite correctly pointed out, there is extraordinarily compelling evidence in the most reputable and scholarly publications concerning the effects of excess sugar and empty calories in children's (or anyone's diet). Conversely, there is no definitive, objective source for defining morality. Indeed, as we all know, what was deemed "appropriate" to show on television in the 1970s would have been unthinkable in the 1950s. And so on.

Furthermore, the argument that the depiction of homosexuality in television shows is some sort of provocation to "make" teens become gay is one of the silliest, most spurious arguments in the conservative repertoire. Is it really so impossible that such shows are dramatically depicting and reflecting the real world, and not vice-versa? On the other hand, the sole purpose of advertising is to encourage consumption. So again, moral vs. physical hygiene notwithstanding, comparing a narrative that depicts a morally dubious (according to some) behavior with an advertisement whose one and only reason for existence is to PROMOTE a proven unhealthy behavior is extremely fallacious.

This is not to say that I think such advertising should be regulated. I do not. But the question of where we are willing to draw the line concerning the regulation of demonstrably unhealthy products is surely an important conversation to have.

 

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Ahh, ol' Rupe, the oracle of the OWS,---

Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 5:19pm.

the supporter of the squatting stench mobs, the purveyor of platitudes reference the raunchy repugnant roisterers regaling responsible citizens of the working world with rostrums reportedly relevant to curing the ills of the capitalistic society.

What's that?

Ol' Rupe was forced to admit he was wrong about the OWS movement; that it actually turned out to be a bowel movement?

Liberal assuredness can turn out to be such an ephemeral thing.

Witness Obama.

MD

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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Don`t

Submitted by Prisondog1776 on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 5:22pm.

be wordsmithing with rupe MD, he won`t get it. :)

Motor City Madman said it best - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkEbqgbSqs8
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Your alliterative talent is

Submitted by Rupert Cadell on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 7:24pm.

Your alliterative talent is quite admirable.

However, I have to take issue with your word choice. I was "forced" to do that? You are quite mistaken. In fact, I chose, unprompted, to return weeks after having defended OWS to indicate that I had been wrong; that what I thought had the potential to be a productive, coherent social movement had basically gone to s--t. In fact, you yourself expressed what seemed like genuine admiration for my decision to come back and eat humble pie on that matter. Days later, I'm a liberal "p---y" on one thread and - well, whatever it is that you're calling me here - on another. Apparently, I'm worthy of your respect only when I'm being self-deprecating or writing conservative-approved rhetoric.

So do you have any sort of actual response on this issue? Because this sort of reply suggests that you are simply not up to the rhetorical task of rebutting my defense(s) of Jer. Unfortunately for you, arguments in favor of social conservatism are stunningly easy to dismantle, so I understand if you want to fall back on silly tongue-twisters and personal attacks.

 

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Rupe, I did indeed respect the fact---

Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 9:22pm.

that you dined on crow, and I agree also that you were not 'forced' to do so.

Of course, after your completely asinine reflections on the OWS 'movement' became blindingly obvious, how could you possibly come back onto these threads expecting to receive even a soupcon of credibility without your unforced mea culpa?

You couldn't.

As far as your defense of Jeringo, I am not impressed; most who have defended him from a liberal slant have been trolls seeking a comrade-in-arms on a conservative site.

If "arguments in favor of social conservatism are stunningly easy to dismantle", why would anyone waste time arguing the pros or expel the breath necessary to expound upon the cons?   Much 'easier' and more fun to ridicule.

As far as personal attacks, posts by you subsequent the OWS  denouement have been the usual liberal claptrap; and as a result, I don't much care for your smarmy ass; so take that under consideration to avoid wasting your time with trying to figure out why you are soooo misunderstood on this conservative site.

MD

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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Mr. Bozell's views aside,

Submitted by ant on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 5:49pm.

Mr. Bozell's views aside, let's get back to the point at hand. As Pickle has pointed out the 'you guys do it' etc. is going to create a big cloudy circle. It's funny that these libs here use 'sin' in this article as if smoking and drinking soft drinks is an affront to God and morality, and I think that is one of the points here. If television ,for example, was simply representing reality, as you've suggested, then not only is almost everyone I know then having some illicit, lustful affair, but about half of everyone I have contact with everyday is a flaming homosexual who is also involved in some illicit, lustful affair. I know this is not so, so there goes that argument. So it is this idea that such sex filled representations of 'life' are okay (BTW it's okay with me, I watch what I like and turn off the rest) but God forbid, we allow the people to eat and drink what they want.
One example I always have brought up when conversation turns to some "vast right-wing conspiracy" to ban things and tell you what to do is that, really, that kind of things is in the purview of leftists more often then it is the right. And that example is the PMRC's war against music, that was spearheaded by leftists such as Tipper Gore, who deemed certain music unacceptable. When you take an honest look back at some of the issues around 'banning' or not permitting certain products or behaviors in recent history, you'll find it is usually some sort of liberal atheist moral majority. From toys, to music, to holiday celebrations or charities, to smoking, to now food and drink-- it is liberal, liberals, liberals that attack, sue, and ban.
Soft drinks have been around for quite some time now, why now is there an obesity/health epidemic surrounding it? Before you waste you're time citing studies on the issue, I must point out that most likely nothing will convince me that it is part of government duty to remove choices from the citizens in the name of their own safety or to tax something punitiveley in order to change behavior. It is and always should be beyond their reach, especially with a bureaucracy filled with busy-body regulation- happy libtards. They want to protect me from "danger"? They can do their Constitutional duty and defend the border, enforce the law, support and train a military, and don't borrow us into economic slavery.

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The comparison of Physical

Submitted by ThePickle on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 5:58pm.

The comparison of Physical fitness with Moral fitness is hardly an example of the 'your side does it to'.

If I where to say, accost the left for spreading false hope with its manipulations of jobless statistics in an effort to show a less than accurate unemployment rate, and you were to rebut me with an example of a conservative administration engaging in much the same type of activity, and then use this fact in an effort to excuse the actions of the liberal administration while condemning the actions of the conservative administration, then you would be engaging in a "your side does it to" rebuttal.

You disagree with Mr. Bozell's position and as such wish to denigrate his attempts to influence government policy. That is fine. But please, your BS is getting a little deep when you state that you do not believe that such advertising should be regulated..... and then you go on to use this issue as a jumping off point to a discussion........ regarding the regulation of demonstrably unhealthy products.

Your attempt at sounding reasonable has been overshadowed by your inability to understand the simple concept surrounding a flawed yet common debate technique as well as throughly drowned out by your obvious disingenuousness with regards to your stance on government regulations. That being they are bad when its about something you approve of and just fine when it pertains to issues with which you disagree.

I on the other hand make no bones about the fact that I believe that whatever the cause, Government should NEVER be the arbiter of to what I and my family are, or are not, exposed.

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I do not disagree with Mr.

Submitted by Rupert Cadell on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 7:16pm.

I do not disagree with Mr. Bozell's contention that advertisers should be punished for taking on junk food/soda pop accounts. However, given his longstanding penchant for railing against media content when it offends his cultural sensibilities, I think it is perfectly reasonable to point out that the very thrust of his discussion here is that certain left-leaning types want to let "immoral" TV shows run rampant but want to regulate the promotion of unhealthy products. And this is not necessarily a baseless argument. But, first of all, it does rely on the assumption that fictional representation of a bad (subjectively so) behavior is on the same level as the promotional representation of a bad (OBjectively so) product. Second, the criticism leveled at Jer seemed to be based on the idea that HE was the first to make this comparison, rather than simply to respond to the author's comparison.

"I on the other hand make no bones about the fact that I believe that whatever the cause, Government should NEVER be the arbiter of to what I and my family are, or are not, exposed."

That's marvelous. I share that position. Shall I assume that you then advocate a full cessation of the so-called Drug War, and the immediate legalization of all narcotics as well as the privatization of their production and distribution?

 

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"I on the other hand make no

Submitted by ThePickle on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 7:38pm.

"I on the other hand make no bones about the fact that I believe that whatever the cause, Government should NEVER be the arbiter of to what I and my family are, or are not, exposed."

That's marvelous. I share that position. Shall I assume that you then advocate a full cessation of the so-called Drug War, and the immediate legalization of all narcotics as well as the privatization of their production and distribution?

Wow thats a bit of a leap when taken in the context of the regulation of the content of the broadcast and film mediums. Perhaps I should make myself a tad bit clearer. In the context of TV, film, the written word and other forms of communication I do not want the Government to be the arbiter of what I and my family are or are not exposed to.

I believe that you knew what I was saying and in yet another pathetic debate technique chose to go with "extrapolating to the point of absurdity".

While I believe that the war on drugs is a mostly useless gesture, given that is is truly driven buy 'demand', I would not advocate the legalizations of ALL drugs, very few if truth be known, and for those that I might deem as acceptable, I would rely on existing governmental means to regulate both production and distribution as the underlying bureaucracy for such an undertaking is for the most part already in place.

The simple fact is that while you will advocate for your point of view, others will also advocate for theirs.You will call their views absurd and they will call yours immoral. Be that as it may my greatest concern is that in their fervor to impose their versions of right and wrong on the rest of the populace, both the left and the right have a tendency to turn to Government and invite them to use the power of the law to enforce their respective edicts. The tyranny of mob rule will as history has shown us time and time again benefit neither world view for long and will as often as not lead to the brutal suppression of one group or another.

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The Pickle is correct, you

Submitted by ant on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 8:59pm.

The Pickle is correct, you have gone past the point of absurdity now. When someone robs a liquor store or an old lady to score a can of soda, or my 170 lb, 6' frame is found dead in an alley from an overdose of pizza and hot wings, then you may have a valid comparison.

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Why do leftist hate free speech?

Submitted by ThePickle on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 12:44pm.

It never ceases to amaze me that while screeching and wailing about their "right" to free speech ( and free everything else for that matter) it is nearly always the left that calls for an out and out Government Ban on free speech, at least when it comes to speaking freely about things with which they disagree.

How many time have we seen leftist commentators wonder out loud if maybe we as a nation might be better off if some people were denied their first amendment rights?

The left, as of late, has been characterized by their unceasing attempts to have certain ideas and opinions considered "Hate Speech", an appellation that they never seem to apply to members of their own ideological fraternity, as they rant and rave across the land making comments that, if uttered from the right, would bring down a firestorm of condemnation and calls for Government regulations or laws intended to silence such "hateful" speech.

In recent times I have even heard leftists go so far as to claim that any form of dissent with regards to certain beliefs that leftist hold so dear should, for the good of the nation of course, should be considered to lie outside the boundaries of 1st amendment protection.

Yes folks the champions of "free speech" seem to have finally dropped the mask altogether and revealed themselves to have more in common with authoritarian dictators like Chavez and Castro them freedom loving members of our great civilization they continually 'claim' to be.

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Wouldn't it make more sense...

Submitted by MidAmerica on Sat, 12/03/2011 - 4:41pm.

...to get the cocaine out of Hollywood?

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