Brent Bozell Reacts to Keith Olbermann's Suspension from MSNBC
Editor's Note: MRC President Brent Bozell issued the following statement in reaction to news that MSNBC had suspended Countdown host Keith Olbermann "indefinitely" for donating to three Democratic candidates in violation of NBC's policy. In October, Olbermann had blasted political donations from Fox News owner News Corp, slamming Fox as "a media outlet that has now put its money where everybody has known its mouth has always been."
Keith Olbermann is officially the Worst Hypocrite in the World. He rails about a ‘national cable news outlet’ that ‘starts to donate to partisan groups of one party,’ then does exactly that.
But it begs a bigger questions: why did it take NBC so long? This man has been using his perch as a newsman at MSNBC to promote a radical left-wing and hate-filled agenda for years. And they fire him over three contributions? NBC needs to review its own policies.”
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Liberals
Submitted by johnsonl on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 4:46pm.
are like children. They should be treated as such.
I just went to MSNBC.com...
Submitted by Paul G on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 4:54pm.
WAYYYY on the bottom of the page, did I find ANYTHING about Olbie1Kenobie.....
AND IT WAS IN THE ENTERTANMENT SECTION!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
"But it begs a bigger
Submitted by Smartypants on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 4:58pm.
"But it begs a bigger questions: why did it take NBC so long?"
My sentiments exactly. This is where NBC draws the line? K.O. is a foul-mouthed lout who doesn't add anything to the public political debate. If he were a conservative behaving in the same manner, he would have been canned years ago, regardless which network chose to pay him. For all of the ragging on FOX News, there is nobody on that network that behaves as K.O. does--nobody.
I know Mr. Bozzell has to be
Submitted by ricklail on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 5:03pm.
I know Mr. Bozzell has to be professional and diplomatic, but we don't. We can shout how we truly feel about this. Goodbye slime ball
Smarty-
Submitted by Seashell on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 5:03pm.
I think that Tingles is just as bad, or at least a very close second.
The entire pMSNBC line up...
Submitted by kch50428 on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 5:04pm.
is an in-kind donation to the Democrats. Fire the whole lot of 'em.
K.O. will just be replaced by another liberal shill - it will be the same ordure emitting from a different wazoo aperture.
Olberman's Replacemrent
Submitted by mikebromo on Sat, 11/06/2010 - 11:40am.
Jason Grayson is looking for a job.
I wonder...
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 5:09pm.
How does this suspension count in Obama's "Jobs Created or Saved" statistics?
Olbermann Watch (what will
Submitted by motherbelt on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 5:21pm.
Olbermann Watch (what will they do now???) has some words from John Gibson...with some of Keith's "greatest hits" woven in. Very entertaining.
TVNewser says they have word from "insiders" who say Olbie won't be back.
AWWWWW......
Buh by, Olberdork
Submitted by QueenMum on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 5:22pm.
I expect to see more of this sort of thing. The mid-terms have put liberals on notice. MSNBC's "chickens are coming home to roost".
“If you don't read the newspaper, you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper, you are misinformed." - Mark Twain
Maybe another "journalist" at the White House
Submitted by Hippopaulimus on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 5:22pm.
Now he's free to go after Robert Gibbs' job!
White - does not mean racist
Heterosexual - does not mean homophobic
Male - does not mean sexist
He was not fired for donating to Democrat candidates.
Submitted by jawebster1 on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 5:29pm.
The writing was on the wall when they stopped him from doing his 'Worst Person in the World' segment. He made up a phoney excuse to cover his butt, but now the truth comes out. His bosses were looking for an excuse to dump him and they used a weak pretext to do it. Odorman's show amounted to a Democrat donation everytime it was on. The fact that he was fired for also giving them money is a joke.
M(orons) S(pouting) N(othing) B(ut) C(rap)'s replacement?
Submitted by ammo john on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 5:37pm.
"Countdown with Alan Grayson"
I'm sure now KO is sorry he
Submitted by marpel on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 5:40pm.
I'm sure now KO is sorry he didn't keep it to just BJ's like before....
"Deep within my heart lies a memory. A song of ol' San Antone..."
easy
Submitted by 10ksnooker on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 5:43pm.
Comcast is coming ... They said they plan to restructure PMSNBC ...
So this is just getting an early start when you have the chance.
I don't like Olberdumb, but...
Submitted by retrocon on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 5:54pm.
I don't like Olberdumb, but i really don't care about his donations, we all know that he's a biased, obnoxious uberprogressive lib.
If he violated the ethics clause of his contract, he should be punished.
The thing i see missing repeatedly is the apples-to-apples comparisons.
If you say News Corp donates to candidates, you don't compare that with MSNBC or some broadcaster, you compare it to GE. So, does GE give money to political candidates? Have corporate interests? Push agendas?
There's the real comparison. And Olberdumb was either too dumb to see it, or too dishonest to make it.
So what are they going to do tonight?
Submitted by krendler on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 6:09pm.
Show re-runs?
Have Ben Afleck sit in? Or Rick Sanchez?
I disagree that Olbi and
Submitted by gopsteve on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 6:11pm.
I disagree that Olbi and Krissy are just as obnoxious. If I had to take a five hour car ride with either, I would want Krissy in a heartbeat (not that it would be a happy heartbeat). He just seems slightly likeable and has moments of sanity from time to time.
Oh good, it's still available
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 6:18pm.
Have you no shame, SIR?!
Cool Arrow posted it on the
Submitted by ricklail on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 6:27pm.
Cool Arrow posted it on the Breaking News about Olberdork at 1536. He beat you over there. Yes, you are first here.
Cool Arrow posted it ... at 1536
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 7:40pm.
Oh, poopy!
Olbermann donates...Hannity donates...Big deal
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 6:23pm.
You're right. Maddow, Hannity, Schultz, O'Reilly, Olbermann, etc. aren't "newsmen" [as Bozell called KO in his press release]. These people are political talking heads--opinion peddlers and biased as hell. Hannity has been a human ATM for Republican candidates and O'Reilly in the past has urged his audience to vote for specifically named Republicans running for office. [Other than it putting the lie to O'Reilly's neutrality claim...so what!]
It will, however, be interesting to see how MSNBC reacts, if at all, to the revelation that Scarborough has donated to a Republican candidate while in the employ of the network.
Jer
Jer
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 6:36pm.
I don't know Fox's policies on donations, but KO obviously violated MSNBC's. Whether or not it is good policy is up for debate. After all, we all know where KO stands.
That said, if JS violated the same policy, he should be suspended as well. Besides, his prolly went to some RINO. :)
I haven't seen anything
Submitted by motherbelt on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 10:29pm.
I haven't seen anything specifically from News Corp (Fox's owner) but I have seen in a couple of articles about this story that News Corp's policy DOES allow personal donations.
Rachel Maddow, on her show tonight, was waxing indignant about Hannity, without metntioning News Corps' policy. Not to mention the fact that Hannity and BOR are "talk show hosts" and MSNBC casts Olbermann as an "anchor" (Read: News reporter).
But liberals in high dudgeon never let little things like facts get in their way.
Jer~
Submitted by GG_NB on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 6:55pm.
When (specifically) did O'Reilly ask people to vote for a Republican candidate? The only way I can see a loose connection there is if he was doing a segment on corruption, etc.~~but specifically, has he asked for a certain vote for a certain race?
Just askin'...I'm not anticipating having to beat the crap out of you, as with the "Google" argument. ;)
You love me, right? Try to remember why. ^_^
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
uh oh*
Submitted by cajun2 on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 6:59pm.
Cajun got the Giggles.
Cajun~
Submitted by GG_NB on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 7:08pm.
It's uncanny how you always have a front-row seat to my "interactions" with Jer...you crack me up! :)
Well, we'll see what "The Jer" says. He's got to walk that fine line between not ticking off GG...and having specifics that back up his claim.
Love Jer. I really do. But...well, he knows.
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
Miss Giggles*
Submitted by cajun2 on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 7:17pm.
Since I usually sit up in the peanut gallery, I get to watch the action as it unfolds. Jer will be back as soon as he reviews all of his law books for "valiant retreat". Have fun GG.
Cajun~
Submitted by GG_NB on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 7:49pm.
You are so cute!
Jer is now busying trying to find transcripts and clips of these moments on O'Reilly, for documentation purposes...uh, maybe not! ;)
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
GG...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 7:20pm.
Absolutely. He specifically endorsed John Thune over Tom Daschle, Mel Martinez over Janet Reno, Norm Coleman over Al Franken, and somebody over John Corzine. I heard him on each of those occasions. I don't know if there have been others. I finally weaned myself off of O'Reilly. I don't like frauds.
You know I love you, doll. And you know why...(despite that sickening post of yours gloating about the election stomping we Dems suffered.)
Jer
Jer~
Submitted by GG_NB on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 7:39pm.
Well, you know I believe you in my fuzzy heart...but I will wait for the transcripts/clips that you will post of these examples. You know, just for reference purposes. Shall I play the "Jeopardy" music now?
Bwa-ha-ha...etc.
Oh, you saw that post of mine? The "TOLD YA SO" clip on the Michelle Malkin "Take Your Olive Branch and Shove It" thread? That was the reserved version! ;)
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
GG...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 8:00pm.
I'll see what I can find. By the way, his endorsement of Martinez was made concurrently with the one for Thune. But, I was mistaken about Reno being Martinez' opponent--it was Betty Castor.
Jer
GG...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 8:32pm.
The following is an excerpt Media Matters published from a transcript of O'Reilly's Radio Factor. I rarely listened to BOR on the radio. I heard his candidate recommendations on his FNC show, but I don't know if those transcripts are available or not.
Tom Daschle: Don't care. With all due respect to the senator, we don't have any respect for him at all. And we hope he loses in South Dakota. And I -- really, I stay out of all these races, but you guys listening in South Dakota, vote for the other guy. This Daschle's no good.
I hope you're not going to pull a Dan the Man on me, who--- when I couldn't locate a comment I heard Rush make twelve years ago--announced "Well that means Rush never said it".
Jer
Jer~
Submitted by GG_NB on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 8:35pm.
I'm a journalist. I'm not going to say someone didn't say something...I'm going to say PROVE IT. Show me the evidence.Let me see the facts.
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
Here is another
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 8:47pm.
Here is another source:
Though O'Reilly has stated that he does not endorse politicians for office, on the September 24, 2005 edition of The O'Reilly Factor, he advised his viewers to vote for Republican Doug Forrester in the 2005 New Jersey gubernatorial election, suggesting that Jon Corzine, a Democrat, would not be as tough on child molesters.. O'Reilly also urged his listeners on The Radio Factor to vote against Democratic Senator Tom Daschle in the 2004 Senate election. In 2003, O'Reilly also urged his viewers on television and his listeners on the radio in California to vote for Arnold Schwarzenegger in the 2003 California gubernatorial election. Two years later, on the day of the citizen initiatives elections in California, as well as the gubernatorial elections in New Jersey and Virginia, he urged his listeners to vote for the Republican governor's proposals on the ballot.
Jer
Jer~
Submitted by GG_NB on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 9:30pm.
Okay, we are just really not on the same page. To cut to the chase, I thought you would be telling me how O'Reilly gave biased commentary during a news segment, but everything you have given me has been in an analyst/editorial capacity...and if it is not in an analyst position as you have noted here, there are no dates or references for me to look up to get any other context on this.
I get what your thoughts are on O'Reilly though. You don't like the guy. You think he's a big fake. If it makes you feel any better...I feel like he says some pro-liberal things many times as well, and it's not like I don't have some criticisms of him. Mainly, that he interrupts people all the time.
There. Common ground. And that's about the best we are gonna do, Jer. We are just coming at this from two entirely different vantage points -- and I don't mean liberal vs. conservative!
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
GG... This is very simple.
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 9:51pm.
GG...
This is very simple. The man has said he doesn't endorse candidates for office. He also has said he is ideologically neutral. I challenge the accuracy and veracity of both statements. The basis of my challenge is that I have personally heard him endorse several candidates, all of whom have been Republicans, and the evidence I have produced so far tends to support my position.
However, I will concede the possibility that I may have missed telecasts where O'Reilly recommended voting for a Democrat over a Republican, and that I have failed to see subsequent reports of it. So if you have evidence of his doing so, please link it.
Jer
BTW...I'm just a commenter at
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 8:56pm.
BTW...I'm just a commenter at a political website. In my three and a half years here, there have been several occasions where a poster has stated a specific link to a source wasn't avaiable but assured me that he or she had personally heard what was being asserted. I've always said that's good enough for me, but maybe I've been too lax.
Jer
Jer~
Submitted by GG_NB on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 9:07pm.
My career is based on factual accuracy. So if someone is debating the facts -- and trying to prove liberal bias -- yes, I want to see the facts. I have to see the facts. But that's just me. It's not that I'm trying to be a pain. But what kind of a journalist would I be if I published without checking the facts?
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
Georgia Girl---
Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 9:09pm.
a liberal one.
MD
MD~LOL
Submitted by GG_NB on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 9:19pm.
Okay, that was just a gift. I just set it right up -- for you to knock it into the stands. ^_^
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
That you did, Georgia Girl---
Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 9:53pm.
and I know you did it because you suspected I was hovering in the area, stalking Jer, and just wanted to give me a chance to look good.
You did just that, with such a selfless air !!
That is why I really do love you; unlike a certain house liberal, whose initials are J.E.R., who just toys with your emotions.
I am matthewdean; and my wife approved this message.
MD
MD~
Submitted by GG_NB on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 10:21pm.
Thanks for the laugh. :) I needed that...I should have just gone for that walk with my neighbor girlfriend and not even asked Jer any questions. Why do I even try? Instead of a nice, brisk walk chatting with a friend, I got an exercise in aggravation.
Well, that's it for me. Night~
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
Ga. Girl
Submitted by gfrrman on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 11:42pm.
you would work for Dan Rather...LMAO!!! You know, "fake but accurate".
G
another doofus*
Submitted by cajun2 on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 11:55pm.
You know nothing about GG and insulting her clearly identifies you as a troll.
Notice Jer differs in opinion from GG but does so respectfully for a reason.
Go throw your trollish one liners at huffnpuff where they appear to be intellectually superior.
cajun2
Submitted by gfrrman on Sat, 11/06/2010 - 12:15am.
That was satire....."But what kind of a journalist would I be if I published without checking the facts?" I'm actually agreeing with GG. Sorry to slip one by you. You know, "fake but accurate"? NOT checking the facts...Dan Rather. Btw, definitely NOT a troll in any way...been on this site 4+ years and have viewed Huffpo less times than I can count on my digits. Sorry, also I am from Ga and there ain't many libs in this state and I AM NOT one of them. I usually post later than this while you are probably already in bed. Sorry for the confusion....
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy"...Winston Churchill
G
Cajun & gfrrman~
Submitted by GG_NB on Sat, 11/06/2010 - 10:08am.
Okay, now I'm feeling really badly. I got off here last night, and I didn't know about this fallout. Cajun was just being a really loyal friend to me, and I understand why she misunderstood. Thanks, Cajun, for defending my honor. You're a gem. I probably should not have gotten this whole thing going with Jer -- it usually ends up like this! ;) Anyway, big group conservative hug. LOL. ;)
And gfrrman, I got your ha-ha. Jer is also from Georgia, and so is Dave...now Jer has to run around and find a few more people on his side so he won't complain it's just like FOX. Okay, that's my last jab, Jer. :) I'm not starting this up again! ^_^
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
Jer~
Submitted by GG_NB on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 9:02pm.
Okay, I'm going to have to chuck this one (20:32 comment). This is from his radio program. I know that you understand that is not the same as him endorsing on FOX, in a news-type segment. He can "opine" and not be accused of being unprofessional all day long -- on his own radio show, in analysis/opinion.
I think you have something else for me though, below. Maybe that's from his show, on a news segment.
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
GG...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 9:31pm.
O'Reilly isn't a newscaster and he doesn't deliver straight news. He's a political commentator who interviews guests and opines about current events. He also claims to be ideologically neutral, which is a pathetic joke.
I've indicated what I have personally witnessed with respect to his making endorsements or voting recommendations despite his claims to the contrary, and the evidence I've presented so far tends to back up my words.
If it is your position that O'Reilly doesn't play favorites, please link evidence of his endorsement of a Democrat over a Republican candidate for office..
Jer
The ol prove I am wrong defense
Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 9:36pm.
BOR is way to the left of me, he all but edorsed Obama the last few years. So much so, I quit watching him.
You apparently didn't watch
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 10:07pm.
You apparently didn't watch the pre-election interviews of Obama and McCain. The McCain interiew was the softest questioning I've ever witnessed from O'Reilly. [Except for his three-part Bush interview which even his pro-Bush viewers criticized for his fawning manner.]
Jer
The ol prove I am wrong defense
Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 9:36pm.
BOR is way to the left of me, he all but edorsed Obama the last few years. So much so, I quit watching him.
Yes...
Submitted by GG_NB on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 9:47pm.
EXACTLY MY POINT! He is a news analyst. However, he does have a few snippets of straight news sprinkled throughout his show...and there are ways that you could highlight a point here. I was looking for something -- and you didn't give it.
I disagree with you that he doesn't give both sides. He does. He ticks off just as many on the right as the left. So you are entitled to your opinion, but I have stated my case just fine. I have been as nice as I can be about this, and now you are getting snotty and demanding. I WAS NOT THE ONE WHO STATED SOMETHING THAT NEEDED PROOF. I made no assertion.
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
GG...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 9:58pm.
What are you looking for that I didn't give you?
Jer
Jer~
Submitted by GG_NB on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 10:12pm.
There is one point that you could have made to make a case for bias -- even within the O'Reilly Factor EDITORIAL show. And I'm certainly not going to give it to you, mainly because it would not be your view -- just my giving you something that I would have heartily agreed to...so what is the point in that?
Forget it. I really did want to hear some black-and-white answers and see if I was missing something in your thinking. I wanted to understand.
Well, I understand. And I can see the landscape on this one, so enough.
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
He also claims to be
Submitted by motherbelt on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 10:59pm.
He also claims to be ideologically neutral, which is a pathetic joke. I agree. BOR may be a diluted conservative, or a tentative liberal, but he's not ideologically neutral.I don't think it's even possible for someone to be "ideologically neutral." That would mean he had NO set of beliefs or standards, for lack of a better word (it's late).
I can accept diluted
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 11:57pm.
I can accept diluted conservative. What O'Reilly means by "ideologically neutral" is that he [theoretically] doesn't take sides. However, that simply isn't true. There is no clearer example of taking sides than endorsing only the candidacies of one political party.
Jer
Motherbelt, Georgia
Submitted by Liberallies on Sat, 11/06/2010 - 12:40am.
Motherbelt, Georgia Girl,
Why do you allow a radical Left winger like Jer to hijack this thred and have him make moral equivalency between Olberman, Hannity and O'Reilly?
The FACT is that Olberman has gone after Foxnews and its OPINIO shows for giving donations to particular political campaigns. Olberman's huge problems here are two...
1) It looks like he did not follow his contract with MSNBC.
2) Pure and utter hypocrisy
Now Liberals like Jer all over the political blogosphere are attempting to do moral equivalency! Don't allow them, do not accept their premise and do not engange them in their foolishness.
Olberman always tells his watchers how middle of the road he is, how he doesn't vote so he doesn't seem to lean Left or Right.
This man has every right to do what he wants with his money, but if he breaks his contract guess what....he is out of a job or at least there are consequences to pay.
When radicals like Jer prove that Foxnews' contracts with Hannity, O'Reilly, etc have clauses that equate to MSNBC's then he'll have standing, otherwise he is just your typical radical Left wing cry baby who has been handed two incredibly huge losses in less than a week and guess what.....I AM LOVING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BWAHAHAHA!!!!!
Furthermore by giving money to Liberal campaigns he also proved what a huge hypocrite he is and a liar.
Foxnews, O'REilly, Hannity and ALL of the opinion shows on Foxnews clearly claim that they are an opinion shows. They do not pretend to be middle of the road. That's is one the BIGGEST difference between Foxnews and MSNBC. Foxnews opinion shows admit they are opinion shows, editorial shows. MSNBC opinion/editorial shows claim to be hard news which supposedly give middle of the road interviews and commentaries. Olberman and MSNBC have always denied that his show is an Editorial/Opinion shows. Do you get the different radical Left wingers jer? No, I do not think so, your radical Left wing brain doesn't allow you to think clearly and objectively.
Please Jer, my "Moderate" radical Left winger stop playing your equivalency crap here on NB.
Liberallies...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 11/06/2010 - 12:55am.
It might interest you to know that this "radical Left winger" [and lifetime news junkie] has watched more of Fox News in a single night than the offerings of Schultz, Maddow, and Olbermann--combined--since the latter three blowhards have been on the air. And I seriously doubt that either motherbelt or Georgia Girl is persuaded or even slightly impressed by your drivel.
Thanks for your input and suggestion--and for saying "Please"--but you don't get to dictate what or how I post.
Jer
Liberallies~
Submitted by GG_NB on Sat, 11/06/2010 - 10:14am.
To be completely honest with you, after my original questions to Jer, there were just too many areas I wanted to debate him on (okay, argue would be more accurate)...so many areas, so little time -- too tired. I honestly just gave it up for the sake of my sanity. ^_^
And WHY do we let him go on and on? Simple. We report -- you decide.
Okay, I've caused enough trouble for one thread. Waving bye-bye.
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
dude...
Submitted by humanzee on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 8:38pm.
It's unlikely the other pundits donated to GOP candidates. They probably donated to PACs and political organizations with agendas but not to candidates themselves. This is VERY different.
Anyhow, don't blame Fox. Why does it always come back to Fox? MSNBC hired him and MSNBC suspended him. MSNBC probably thinks their investment isn't working out. The liberals running that network decided to slap him around.
They hired Olbermann, a former sportscaster, in order to sell the liberal agenda to straight white men. They thought he had "white guy" appeal. They thought he would catch on like Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck amongst heterosexual white men... specially the blue collar types.
A lot of liberals are obsessed with presenting white male liberals who don't appear gay, indecisive, shy, metrosexual, juvenile, or foppish.
For MSNBC Olbermann was .... ESPN+Liberalism = manly liberalism = all men would flock to it. OMG, a liberal man that worked for ESPN!!!
Democrats have lost a lot of male voters. It's not working and they may want to get out of his contract.
This is one of those areas
Submitted by fitzfong on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 8:37pm.
This is one of those areas where Brent Bozell really gets on my nerves. So, Keith Olbermann donated a total of $7200 to 3 Democrats running for office. It's his money, he should be able to spend it on whatever he wants. I don't like KO, so I don't watch him. Remote controls are useful tools, Mr. Bozell might want to invest in one rather than peeing his pants and demanding disciplinary action every time some hack like Keith Olbermann bloviates. As far as I can tell, this site is supposed to shed light on liberal media bias, so that people can put the information they receive into some sort of context...not so that people are driven to demand the termination of those whose views they don't like. Freedom of speech cuts both ways.
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best
fitzfong
Submitted by humanzee on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 8:52pm.
Are you freaking serious? Bozell had nothing to do with this... He just called out Olbermann's hypocrisy and noted how it caught up with him.
MSNBC and the rest of the liberal media take big fat poops on Newsbusters. They've been ignoring this website for YEARS!!! Bozell can't get the time of day from these bastards.
And now he's responsible for his suspension? What?
Olbermann pissed off the boss... plain and simple.
I'll bet Brent WISHES he had
Submitted by motherbelt on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 11:01pm.
I'll bet Brent WISHES he had that kind of power!
Humanzee, I didn't say that
Submitted by fitzfong on Sat, 11/06/2010 - 10:36am.
Humanzee, I didn't say that Bozell had anything to do with Olbermann's suspension. Nor did I suggest that he was responsible for Olbermann's suspension. My point was that Bozell was effectively cheerleading MSNBC's decision to suspend him on really WEAK grounds as some sort of comeuppance for his previous bad acts. Problem is, Olbermann didn't get suspended for his previous bad acts, he got punished for donating his own money to Democrats...he's unlikely to have been the only one at MSNBC (or at any of the other media outlets, for that matter) to have donated to favored candidates. But this is the excuse given for his suspension, and Bozell is happy with that? I have to tell you, this is one slippery slope being created here.
Frankly, I don't believe Olbermann was suspended for donating to Democrats. He may have been suspended for some other activity that will now get swept under the rug...or for declining ratings...or perhaps he colluded with MSNBC to set himself up as a straw man "example" to put MSNBC's "high journaistic standards" on show (especially in comparison to FNC). Whatever the reason for the suspension, it shows a real lack of intellectual curiosity (and implies a willingness to have the same "standard" applied to Beck, Hannity, O'Reilly...or invites a spurious charge of "hypocrisy" for failing to apply it) to simply accept the explanation for the suspension, and to support as enthusiastically as Bozell has. Lame.
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best
I should address my assertion
Submitted by fitzfong on Sat, 11/06/2010 - 11:20am.
I should address my assertion that Bozell is cheerleading this suspension. His statement does point out the relative weakness of the grounds for MSNBC's suspension of Olbermann. However, while he suggests that the offense in question hardly merited the punishment, he frames the suggestion in such a way that even if the punishment was excessive for this particular crime, it'll do under the circumstances as retribution for prior unpunished (but more punishable) acts. To me, that is an incredibly disingenuous position.
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best
whoa... hold on there.
Submitted by humanzee on Sat, 11/06/2010 - 11:48am.
Nothing I've read on this site points to anyone cheerleading MSNBC's decision. Bozell or others may be relishing Olbermann's humbling but all they've done is pointed out the irony of this whole event. Olbermann sermonized on his show about the evil Fox guys and their public support for conservatives. He's the one caught doing it while probably under contract not to endorse politicians.
Olbermann has masqueraded as a journalist whereas guys like Beck, Hannity, and O'Reilly have not. I don't think they ever serve as anchors on the network like Sheperd Smith or Neil Cavuto. Olbermann on the other hand does anchor on occasion.
All of the Fox News commentators have side gigs and don't anchor news since they seem to be on tight schedules. Beck, Hannity, and O'Reilly all do radio and/or web shows. They also do public speaking and have to write and market their books. These dudes hardly ever anchor news, too much going on for them.
Olbermann got fired by his liberal bosses at MSNBC. It seems they wanted to get out of his contract and used his political donations as a reason to ditch him. MSNBC is as bad as Keith. They eat their own. Olbermann is still a citizen and he has the right to do whatever he wants with his money. That's not debatable. It's just funny MSNBC would pull this and its ironic he'd get suspended for donating to political campaigns when her sermonized about how wrong it is for people like him to do so. Anyhow, MSNBC is trying to cover the sun with a finger. You can be as liberal as you want but you just can't have the paper trail.
I'm pretty sure Katie Couric and other news personalities have been caught going to Democrat fundraisers.
NBC liberals suspended him. RECOGNIZE THAT. Can you say.. CANNIBALISM?
Finally
Submitted by TCinAZ on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 6:29pm.
Tonight An Arrogant, Pompous, Self-Absored, Self-Aggrandizing, Self-Serving and "Wordy" Special Comment...
or Not.
FOX to Hire Olberman
Submitted by West Coast Minority on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 6:52pm.
That would be interesting. Make him debate Conservatives... REAL Conservatives, every night. He would eventually leave broadcasting forever or move to the Right. Pay him to remove him from the bubble. Nightly public humiliation would be great entertainment.
On second thought... nevermind.
Congrats Jer
Submitted by Tomorama on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 6:54pm.
The phony libtard false equivalence, congrats Jer, you beat ADD to it.
My hope is hat they hire Alan Grayson.
The material would be endless.
Maybe move the socialist up to 08:00 and just show repeats of his socialist show at 10:00?
It worked so well for Olberdouche and the network for years...............
Thanks. I love being
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 8:02pm.
Thanks. I love being first.
Jer
Someone else brought it up
Submitted by Beukeboom on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 7:05pm.
Someone else brought it up that the MSNBC brass wanted to get rid of him for a while and used this as their excuse. After all Olbermann's been violating MSNBC policy often both on and off camera. So why now? That's a question I'd like definitvely answered from reputable sources (and verified).
Can anybody say "Comcast?"
Submitted by docjohn52 on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 7:05pm.
They're purging the ranks, thank god, thank god, I'm free at last!
I'm telling Chrissy, to watch his six right now. There's a "CDM" on his rear.
*Carreer Dissipation Missle
As Fox viewers rejoice,
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 7:30pm.
As Fox viewers rejoice, little do they know such an act pushes them even further to the right. With fewer liberals on the air to counter Fox's "opinions" it makes FoxNews look ever the more biased.
Not that it'll make a difference...Well, perhaps to those who want to fight about it.
It might make a difference
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 7:50pm.
if the only on air liberals were at MSNBC. Fox News is THE only network that gives voice to the right. They have enough lefties on to make me use the mute button more than I want.
Does it really make logical sense that in a business as competetive as news gathering, that EVERY outlet but one has the exact viewpoint on every story? Would it not seem that to create a name for themselves, that an assignment editor would say, "Give me something different than CBS or ABC."
The people that watch Fox News, me being one, not only don't care that they give more voice to the right, it's what we watch it for. We can go to ANY other channel and just about any newspaper in the country to get the left's point of view.
That being said, the viewership ratings of FNC are a drop in the bucket compared to the population of the country. Talk radio is more, but still in a minority. Maybe the reason so many people don't like what this President and Congress are doing is that they aren't as stupid as all those news channels portray them.
Well at least one person will
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 7:54pm.
Well at least one person will admit to Fox being a voice for the right, from the right.
I think you said that anyway.
ADK
Submitted by Free Stinker on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 8:03pm.
So what gave it away? All those "Right Wing" people they have such as Geraldine Ferarro, Juan Williams, Geraldo Rivera, Bob Beckel, Susan Estrich? . . . and that's just off the top of my head.
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Ted~No...
Submitted by GG_NB on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 8:06pm.
The poster said: "gives voice to the Right" and "gives more voice to the Right" (and the intent in the wording of the poster -- if you read the context of the sentence -- was that the Right side gets scant coverage elsewhere). You re-worded it to say that FOX is a voice FOR the Right, which has an entirely different meaning. There's a big difference. In other words, Fox actually gives the Right side of the equation, as well as the Left -- unlike most of the media out there, who just spin Left, Left, Left, Left, Left, Left, Left on everything -- with a vengence.
If you ever check out the percentages of Right vs. Left views -- Right vs. Left analysis -- the actual tally that is documented, FOX is the one that is balanced by showing both views.
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
When ALL other media outlets
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 9:32pm.
When ALL other media outlets swing left, and while I have the humility to agree there is much bias in them, I find it dishonest that anyone can argue the Fox News is anything but a voice for the right hand fed from the right. You know how much I like you GG, so I think it's best we agree to disagree on this one.
Ted~
Submitted by GG_NB on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 11:07pm.
Well, that was quite diplomatic of you. I very much accept the "let's agree to disagree" motto. :)
I do believe you that you find FOX totally biased. I commend you for being vulnerable about agreeing the other media swing Left...but I still just really, really, really don't get how FOX is seen as so biased by the Left -- when they constantly show the Left views -- and have commentators droning on and on about their liberal views and are busy all day presenting both sides. I honestly just don't get it. I DO get that in the editorial aspects, they are pretty much Righties. For sure -- the tone is there, and there's quite a line-up of those advocating the conservative side. I don't think anyone can seriously argue that's not the case. But as a journalist, I know there is a big difference between the editoral page of a newspaper and the straight news articles -- and that is how it is with FOX too. Plus, they have so much representation of liberals. I get darned ticked off listening to them oftentimes, so how can they be benign in this regard??
But...I'm just gonna leave it at that. I don't get it. but I don't need to get everything, and I am not always going to get it. And sometimes -- not always -- but sometimes, it is best just to leave stuff alone!
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
Thanks GG. I know this isn't
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Sat, 11/06/2010 - 10:44am.
Thanks GG. I know this isn't the end of this discussion, but you're just not someone I want to get in a fight with. ; )
Dead Kenney, My goodness
Submitted by Liberallies on Sat, 11/06/2010 - 12:35am.
Dead Kenney,
My goodness man, c'mon now.
Kucinich is always on O'Reilly and he even makes in once in a blue moon in Hannity's show.
Hannity's pannel always has one Liberal on and many times he speaks to Liberal pundits of some foundation or another.
Through out the day, during the hard news hours pundits from both sides of the eisle are always invited on and 99% of the time they are on.
As it has been documents, which you refuse to acknowledge when Georgia Girl said it to you, Foxnews day time hard news shows are actually quite balanced between Right wing punidts vs. Left wing pundits.
Can the same be said about CNN and MSNBC? How about Olberbye? The man never had a Right winger on! Hannity and O'Reilly always have at least two liberals on.
For goodness sake even Michael Moore has appeared on Foxnews shows, Hannity mainly. I think he was on O'Reilly also. Whoopi Golberg has been on O'Reilly quite a few times too.
and this is just facts from top of my head. If the research is linked to, you'll see how much of a lie it is that Foxnews Channel's hard news hours leand Right or that the Right wing Editorial shows stay away from putting on Left wingers.
The left hates Foxnews because it actually allows the Right to have a voice with out the Main Stream Media Liberal's bias filter.
Ted?
Submitted by bkeyser on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 8:32pm.
Which of the FoxNews anchors is peddling the Conservative message without a Liberal on to stink up the studio? Keep in mind that most Libs refuse to deal with FNC -by their own choosing. Many times during the day you'll hear: "We reached out to [fill in idiot Democrat's name here]'s campaign but so far, they've not returned our call." So outside of those situations, just how often does this right-wing, straight-news messaging occur?
Gee, bk, you think CNN and
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 9:44pm.
Gee, bk, you think CNN and MSNBC don't use that exact verbiage on a daily basis? They're all playing a stupid game with you and you're not seeming to get it. Fox is its own empire because there's no competition. Why do you think that is? Anyone can start a cable TV station. It's best that it remains only Fox, because it's a gathering point for republicans who, coincidentally enough, believe Fox News is the only fair and balanced station. When there is competition, Fox will suffer, and it's more important, it seems, that they remain an empire. Conservatives stick together, right?
You have yet to answer
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 10:35pm.
why it's ok for all other news outlets to be FOR the left, and hand fed (daily White House phone calls) FROM the left.
Most of us here have a problem with that, but also understand that it is what it is. When I say that a news channel is leftward leaning, I mean by the sources they seek for any given topic. If the story is guns, they go straight to the Brady camp. If it's abortion, the people interviewed will be pro-abortion, black/white issues are naturally for the NAACP and so on. FNC shows America that there IS another side to the story.
The fact that the established networks can't see this is what is stunningly sad.
bookmark.
Submitted by Par for the Course on Sat, 11/06/2010 - 10:04am.
trackback bookmark.
I love it. Something so
Submitted by math4life on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 7:43pm.
I love it. Something so "small" finally brought down this lying S.O.B.
I'm gonna miss him!
Submitted by Redrowan2000 on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 7:46pm.
We need to keep these arrogant, anti American ignorant liberals in front of us. They soft peddle Maddow and Odonnell as voices of reason. No excuses for the tingle boy but when you see them in front of you at least you know what vitriol and hate they have for this country and it's people. The only one close to Olbermann in this category is the comedian of the left Maher.
Maybe Keith can get something over at NPR I understand there is an opening since Juan left
"Don't let the bastards grind you down."
"News show of record"
Submitted by Cactus Kurt on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 8:03pm.
So much for (MS)NBC's "news show of record" to quote Olbermoron when referring to Countdown. Some other Olby gems...
"I'm not politically biased"
"I'm politically neutral"
All documented at OlbermannWatch.com
Keith replacement
Submitted by markprice1983 on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 8:24pm.
Why not replace Olbermann with an unimpeachable liberal --- "Rev." Al Sharpton!
Does this explain?
Submitted by GregE on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 8:58pm.
Does this explain why the "Worst Person in the World" segment was "temporarily" removed from the program a few weeks ago?
A Few Observations
Submitted by Chris Norman on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 11:01pm.
Well, they got Al Capone on tax evasion, so this will do
I can't enjoy the misfortune of another human being - oh, who am I kidding - I'm enjoying this.
Since the entire channel is devoted to espousing Democratic talking points and denigrating Republicans, is not the whole of MSNBC (and, heck, NBC) guilty of contributing to Democratic campaigns in the form of free advertising? This would be worth millions if the Democrats had to actually buy the air-time.
It was too bad we couldn't watch Harry Reid go bye-bye, but this ain't bad failing that.
Does this clear the path for the meteoric rise of Ed Schultz?
Shhhh! Chris...what are you thinking?
Submitted by Blonde on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 11:10pm.
Sgt?
Who "subbed" for KO tonight, anyway? Not that I'd deign to flip over to that silly channel.
We did okay Tuesday night, but it would have been better to see some heads explode on MSNBC, instead of weeping.
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Blonde, My tongue was
Submitted by Chris Norman on Sat, 11/06/2010 - 12:20am.
Blonde,
My tongue was placed firmly in cheek regarding Schultzy. Any meteor trip for him will be more like a falling - er - star. Besides, not just anyone can replace the Great Olbermann - his gravitas, his intellect, his sheer charisma. No, MSNBC will have to search high and low to find a blowhard who is worthy enough to draw Olbermann's bath, let alone "replace" hin. I must say, though, Dylan Ratigan has been practicing very hard trying to duplicate the insufferableness that is - was - Olbermann. Man, it feels good to use that word - "was". Do you think he had a feeling this would happen sooner or later?
Speaking of MSNBC
Submitted by GregE on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 10:16pm.
(no open thread to post this gem)
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/msnbcs-lawrence-odonnell-on-air-i-am-a-s...
fired? i thought he was suspended.
Submitted by right of way on Sat, 11/06/2010 - 3:54pm.
in the article you state olberdunce was fired. no one else is reporting that. all are stating that he was suspended.
Reminiscent of a great movie
Submitted by Student1776 on Sat, 11/06/2010 - 9:42pm.
Bozell complaining that Olbermann was supporting the Democrats is quite reminiscent of the scene in Casablanca where Captain Renault says to Rick. "I am shocked, shocked to see gambling going on in here"