The surrealism of celebrity pop culture erupts when a major celebrity dies. The sudden, mysterious death of Michael Jackson caused a near-total eclipse of the real news. The cable-news channels blurred into 24-7 wailing walls for the so-called "King of Pop." Television ratings surged with a big ka-ching.
So much for the "news" business. On Friday, for example, just 24 hours after the death news broke, anchors like NBC’s Brian Williams fit the "news" of Congress and recession and Iran into a neat thimble of snippets so they could devote most of the newscast to continued mourning of the man with the glittery glove.
But what, exactly, is it that Michael Jackson brought to America that was so essential? An alien arriving from space would find him celebrated for dressing in shiny socks and dancing the "moonwalk." His music broke sales records and sets dance floors hopping, and his videos made people say "I want my MTV." But all this happened a long time ago, when MTV was a music channel.
That is not how Michael Jackson dominated the pop-culture news scene for the past 15 years or so. What about Michael Jackson, the man? Was he, in the end, a good man? It seemed no one asked. Everyone wanted to celebrate the mystique of Jackson, but no one was comfortable focusing on the real Michael Jackson – a wretched degenerate if ever there was one.
On NBC, reporter Janet Shamlian stayed vague about the "eccentricities" of Jackson: "In 1993, facing allegations of sexual abuse from a 13-year-old boy, he settled out of court. Soon after he married Elvis's daughter Lisa Marie Presley in a union that would last less than two years. In 2005, criminal charges of sexually abusing a teenage boy, and more bizarre behavior. He would show up in court in pajama bottoms. In the end, the jury said he was innocent."
The coverage was an ocean wide – and an inch deep.
Some hinted at a much darker celebrity inside the bubble. They reported Lisa Marie Presley wrote a letter. "I wanted to save him from the inevitable which is what has just happened," Presley wrote. "I became very ill and emotionally / spiritually exhausted in my quest to save him from certain self-destructive behavior and from the awful vampires and leeches he would always manage to magnetize around him." This man was disturbed, addicted – and perhaps to some, he was evil, not just eccentric. Whatever he was, he never seemed to grow up completely. Presley said Jackson feared he would die of an overdose, but he never seemed to take full responsibility for himself.
Farrah Fawcett died of cancer earlier in the same day. News of her death was swamped by his. To many boys of the 1970s, Farrah Fawcett was the "it" girl, the ultimate hottie. Her star burst with the debut of "Charlie’s Angels" in 1976, and her poster in a red swimsuit and all her feathered blond hair and perfect teeth was a massive seller. Despite several very serious (and even critically acclaimed) dramatic turns, she never won a major award for acting.
Many feel she saved her best for last. In a documentary called "Farrah’s Story," Fawcett took her embarrassing diagnosis of terminal anal cancer and made it a cause. The sweetheart with the perfect smile insisted on filming the horror of her illness even as she vomited through treatments. The lady with the world’s most famous head of hair insisted her shaved head be displayed. All pride and vanity was put aside. What was left was the stark wreckage of a disease-riddled body. In the end, Farrah Fawcett never looked lovelier.
In the special, played on NBC, Farrah displays a disarming optimism based on faith in God: "There’s no room for despair," she exclaimed. "The devil makes you sick, God can heal you. I believe in Him, His power, and His infinite wisdom. I know I must do my work also, but I cannot do it without His help. But I must never forget how blessed I have been. He has given me gifts and happiness beyond any of my simple expectations."
In numerous scenes, she is seen wearing a rosary; she clutches it in rough moments. Going into treatment, you could hear her whisper her Our Fathers.
Farrah Fawcett did everything humanly possible to save her life, while a deadly disease systematically destroyed her body. Staring death in the face, she used her one remaining asset – her celebrity – to help others, even if it meant humiliating herself on national television.
In the end, all of Michael Jackson’s manifold blessings were squandered while he systematically destroyed himself.
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The fact that the MSM abandoned Iran
June 30, 2009 - 22:52 ET by nwahsThe fact that the MSM abandoned Iran to do 10,000 eulogies to a pop star is deplorable. I 100% agree with you on this one.
This is a very sad chapter in history.
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It Matters Because It Is Uniquely American...
June 30, 2009 - 23:05 ET by The7SticksBefore I start, I have to get one thing out of the way: I'm more of a Prince fan than a Michael Jackson fan. Having said that, however, I'll tell you why the death of Michael Jackson matters: It's because it is a uniquely American experience. If you want to tout American exceptionalism, you tout Michael Jackson because nobody else in the world except America could spawn a person that uniquely. I learned this as I had thought previously to myself, Why should I care about a self-destructive person who did nothing for humanity except entertain? Farrah Fawcett did much more for her cause then anything "Whacko-Jacko" did. While listening to the Phil Hendrie Show I learned why: It's because people wanted him to destroy himself. When predatory lawyers convince confused children and their parents on how to take a piece of this man because they resent that he had to work hard to get to where he was: the most popular music man in the world with some pretty savvy business acumen, as demonstrated by outbidding Paul McCartney for half the rights to the Beatles catalog. They wanted to destroy that by making him destroy himself since he was essentially a man-child who had never really grew up. It sort of mirrors The Tragedy of Darth Vader (which is essentially the entire Star Wars film series): Anakin Skywalker was a nine-year-old boy who possessed great potential, but as he grew, he couldn't learn to let go of his childhood belongings (his mother, his first true love Padme) And because of his desire to keep everything the same, he let outside forces manipulate him, and ultimately, it transformed him into the monster he became, Darth Vader. In a sense, Michael Jackson wore, in a way, a white Darth Vader mask hiding his true self because of the damage done to his body. What is saddest of all is that his children were not grown up and able to fully redeem him the way Luke Skywalker redeemed his father.
Dude, what are you smoking?
July 1, 2009 - 16:20 ET by just passing by"Lead, follow or get out of the way!"
Yea, I knew
July 1, 2009 - 19:24 ET by general companythere was something about 7sticks, but I never could put my finger on it? Who knew, a Prince fan? good gief
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Your mom liked Star Wars when she was in prison.
July 1, 2009 - 22:54 ET by JWFWe made her wear a Michael Jackson mask when we beat her with Darth Vader dolls.
What is also sad...
June 30, 2009 - 23:07 ET by Red Jeep...is to take a photo of MJ in his 20's before the plastic surgeries, and then look at his mugshot from 2005 where his face is flour white and he has red lipstick on and wonder why no one intervened to stop his madness.
The constant news stories
June 30, 2009 - 23:39 ET by RowaneThe constant news stories are an embarassment to the outlets that show them. There are many other things happening, right now, that deserve news coverage and aren't getting it because of this non-story.
How are they going to reconcile burying all that plastic, it has to be bad for the environment. I have an idea, they can recycle the plastic and make Lego blocks out of it, then little boys can play with him for a change.
Remember Neda?
June 30, 2009 - 23:46 ET by BarkerRemember Neda.
Remember Neda?
July 1, 2009 - 05:20 ET by motherbeltRemember Neda? Indeed.
This reminds me of the death of Mother Teresa, following Diana.
Coverage relegated to, as an example, this unbelievable blurb from a CNN ditz (Diane Sawyer?):
Another good woman died today.
The only good thing to come out of this non-stop coverage is that we know the President won't be trying to get his mug on TV this week.
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
Alas, BO's ego is still if
July 1, 2009 - 12:47 ET by HelenSAlas, BO's ego is still if full bloom: he has some sort of face-time press conference scheduled for today about something he's already exhausted and worn out, like health care or some other tired old thing.
Behold! The Fraud in Chief with another lie to bludgeon us! Hail to the Chief!
Me - "The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years - the cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil."
Brent Bozell = Fun
July 1, 2009 - 06:50 ET by CacciatoBrent Bozell = Fun Assassin.
What exactly do you enjoy? You seem to be the most consistent Negative Nelly I've ever seen.
Anyone who could reduce Michael Jackson's legacy to the following passage is seriously missing something:
An alien arriving from space would find him celebrated for dressing in shiny socks and dancing the "moonwalk."
Say what you will about his personal life, but Michael Jackson is without a doubt the most popular human being to ever walk the Earth. More popular than the Beatles, more popular than Jesus...his music and his message touched more people than anyone prior to him and, most likely, anyone to come after him. He transcended race, religion, & culture with a positive message of love, understanding, & selflessness.
To ignore these simple facts, one has to be an utterly bitter human being. Planet Bozell is clearly a sad, desolate, dark place.
Enjoy your black clouds Brent. The rest of us will continue to smile & have a good time.
More popular than Jesus...
July 1, 2009 - 07:57 ET by jdlybrandYou have got to be kidding, right? Jesus' "popularity" has existed for over 2000 years. Last time I checked MJ was fifty when he died. Congratulations... that's got to be one of the creepiest posts I've ever seen.
Now you've done it. It
July 1, 2009 - 07:59 ET by JasonCNow you've done it. It didn't fly when Lennon said it, so I think you're really gonna get flamed...
Cacciato, you are what is wrong with America today.
July 1, 2009 - 08:02 ET by acaiguanaI distinctly remember Jackson as a noise over the Disco speakers in cheap Disco clubs that made a profit on booze and were a haven for drugs.
Other than that, he wrote some songs that the bubble gum set went ape over and then outgrew their loyalty whilst Brittney took over.
News flash: Popular is as Popular does.
ACA
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I doubt in 100 years anyone
July 1, 2009 - 08:51 ET by Radical1979I doubt in 100 years anyone will know or care about Michael Jackson. I don't know of anyone listening to popular music from 1909 now, and even the music of the 40's is becoming unknown as that generation passes away. When our generation is gone I think our music, and Michael Jackson's, will also be gone.
The work of Einstien, Pasteur, Stephen Hawkins, and other scientists and thinkers are what will be remembered and valued.
Jackson's contributions are ephemeral.
I don't know of anyone
July 1, 2009 - 09:27 ET by JasonCI don't know of anyone listening to popular music from 1909 now, and
even the music of the 40's is becoming unknown as that generation
passes away. When our generation is gone I think our music, and
Michael Jackson's, will also be gone.
I disagree. How could we listen to music from 1909 now even if we wanted to? Very few recordings of music pre-WWI exist anymore. I have some pre-war CDs of Enrico Caruso, and I consider myself lucky.
However, the digitalization of music, which guarantees long shelf life and zero deterioration will, I think, help to work against what you are predicting. Time will tell.
Nonetheless, I am flummoxed at the adoration and minutiae-scrutiny concerning MJ. It's one of those things that makes me feel really alienated from our culture; I just truly don't get why people care about this.
I disagree. How could we
July 1, 2009 - 10:28 ET by Radical1979I disagree. How could we listen to music from 1909 now even if we wanted to? Very few recordings of music pre-WWI exist anymore. I have some pre-war CDs of Enrico Caruso, and I consider myself lucky.
I'm able to find old folk music and Civil War music that has been recorded from sheet music. I've even found some recordings of music from the Revolution! Obviously there's no guarantee of the purity of the music, but it does help understand a past era. I think what will last is music that has a great deal of meaning for a generation or is true quality.
I also don't know why there is more than a passing interest in all of this. I suppose it's similar to the custody trial of "little Gloria" VanDerbilt so long ago. It distracts the easily distractable.
Grow up
July 1, 2009 - 09:20 ET by WhoIsJohnGaltIt's pop music, nothing more. Anyone who sees it as a metaphor for their life or their experiences needs to get a grip on reality.
And if he was such a "friend to the children", where were all the little girls? How come he only surrounded himself with little boys?
He was a creep for the last twenty years, and nothing he did prior to that changes that fact.
I imagine Elvis chasing his scrawny little ass around Heaven with a bat for messin' with his daughter..."-been waitin' for you, ya little princess! C'mere, I'll show you a thriller!"
Elvis with a bat in Heaven.
July 1, 2009 - 09:39 ET by nolotrippenElvis with a bat in Heaven. Nice image. Made me chuckle.
LOL!
July 1, 2009 - 09:43 ET by Red JeepThat's funny! Wonder if Elvis was waiting at the door.
Cacciato
July 1, 2009 - 09:55 ET by Noel SheppardCac,
You either have very bad reading comprehensions skills or are being intellectually dishonest in order to derail this thread. Brent's point was not to demean Michael's talent or his fame. Instead, Brent pointed out that Michael's finest contributions were over a decade ago, and that the last ten to fifteen years he's been an embarrassment.
You also conveniently ignored Brent's larger point -- did you miss the final seven paragraphs?!? -- that in their haste to praise Jackson, the media chose to mostly ignore his foibles whilst tossing aside Farrah Fawcett. Don't you find it at all telling how another pop icon, with a far more positive and uplifting storyline in the past twenty years, got almost completely ignored during all this?
That, INDEED, was Brent's point which you either missed or chose to ignore in your castigation of him. Furthermore, I doubt you read his final sentence: "In the end, all of Michael Jackson’s manifold blessings were squandered while he systematically destroyed himself."
Do you disagree with this? Isn't this really the sad part of Michael's story, that someone with such extraordinary talent seemed to be systematically destroying himself in the final third of his life?
Brent's piece was by no means a slam of Michael. Quite the contrary, he wrote what a lot of folks like me who grew up fans of both these pop icons felt on Friday when their deaths were announced: despite Michael's obviously greater talent, Farrah was a far greater human being in her final years on this earth than Jackson, and the media did themselves AND us a disservice by not recognizing it.
Finally, your comment about Michael being more popular than Jesus is not only a cheap ripoff of Lennon, but also inflammatory. After all, it is estimated there are 1.5 to 2 billion Christians on this planet. Do you REALLY believe there are 1.5 to 2 billion Michael Jackson fans? ns
Noel, I will address the
July 1, 2009 - 10:44 ET by CacciatoNoel,
I will address the rest of your post this evening when I have some time, but I just wanted to respond to your final sentence quickly.
Do I really there are 1.5 - 2 billion Michael Jackson fans?
Yes, easily. Well over that number, especially at the height of his career.
Heck, he sold over 750 MILLION records. Based on that number, it easy to estimate the number of his fans went well into the billions.
When I said he was more popular than Jesus, I am not implying he is more important, more historically significant, or better than Jesus. I'm talking simply about popularity based purely on number of people who know of the man. In this respect, I think Michael Jackson is easily more popular than Jesus.
This is the craziest post I
July 1, 2009 - 10:48 ET by Jack BauerYours is the craziest post I have seen for some time. Just nuts.
Jack, note I address the crazy part on this thread. ACA
July 1, 2009 - 10:55 ET by acaiguanaIn my lengthy apology for being 'offensive'.
ACA
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aca -- I don't get how
July 1, 2009 - 11:11 ET by Jack Baueraca -- I don't get how selling 750 million albums equates to 2 billion "fans."
Jack, Jack... It is the world of Wonderful Numbers.
July 1, 2009 - 11:22 ET by acaiguanaI have to admit that 750 million records is quite a lot.
But, I guess one can be a 'fan' and not buy the stuff.
Still, a multiplier of 2.6666... is scientifically proven because there is a concensus.
Far short of the 1,000 million he would need to meet the magic number of 1 Trillion (the current nominee number of the 2009 Number of the Year Award).
<edit>
Sorry, I meant 1,000 billion (oops), I guess I had a Liberal Brain poof.
ACA
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Jesus doesnt make records
July 1, 2009 - 10:56 ET by general companyHeck, he sold over 750 MILLION records. Based on that number, it easy
to estimate the number of his fans went well into the billions.
No chance any of these fans purchased multible records? In-fact looking at the frenzie they created during the hight of his popularity, I am betting most of them own more then 2.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Cac
July 1, 2009 - 11:02 ET by Noel SheppardCac,
Are your math skills bad as well? So, what -- he sold 750 million records. How many were purchased by the same people. Remember, this is records over his entire career.
Taking this further, is popularity based on number of people who know of somebody? If that's the case, I suggest almost 100 percent of the literate population on this planet has heard of Jesus. Do you think almost 100 percent of the literate have heard of Michael Jackson?
Furthermore, popular DOES NOT mean heard of. I bet LARGE NUMBERS of people have heard of Adolf Hitler, but that doesn't make him POPULAR. Popular means "regarded with favor, approval, or affection by people in general" NOT known.
As such, do you believe 1.5 to 2 billion people regard Jackson with favor, approval, or affection?
Taking this further, although there are 1.5 to 2 billion Christians, I suggest that most religious non-Christians likely regard Jesus with favor, approval, or affection. I fall into that category.
With this in mind, half the literate planet might regard Jesus with favor, approval, or affection. Maybe even more. You think that's true of Michael Jackson?
Hehehehehe. ns
Noel, You said: Are
July 1, 2009 - 14:15 ET by CacciatoNoel,
You said:
Are your math skills bad as well? So, what -- he sold 750 million records. How many were purchased by the same people. Remember, this is records over his entire career.
Fair enough, it is certainly possible that people bought multiple albums. Without a doubt that is the case.
However, doesn't your assertion than lead you to ask the question, how many people who knew of him NEVER bought albums?
We're talking about hundreds of millions of fans in Africa and Asia who never had the chance to buy a Michael Jackson album, yet still knew who he was and still knew his music.
Your argument is weak. I think your math skills might be a bit subpar based on the above argument.
Cacciato~are you feeling okay?
July 1, 2009 - 17:01 ET by Georgia GirlDid you bump your head really hard or something? I cannot adequately explain how you are coming off, but you may want to give some extra thought as to what your agenda is ... and then a little extra care on the nature of your comments positively suiting your purposes. Are your comments: 1) rational/well thought-out 2) productive 3) convincing or inspiring ?
If any of my four brothers were acting like this, I'd give them a "putz alert." And it'd not take more than five minutes for any of them to recognize the truth.
It's a free country, but dude, you really should stop.
He's got me convinced.
July 1, 2009 - 17:10 ET by Another Dead KennedyHe's got me convinced.
ILTK~name change
July 1, 2009 - 17:20 ET by Georgia GirlMuch more positive. ^_^
I think it has a certain
July 1, 2009 - 17:25 ET by Another Dead KennedyI think it has a certain "ring" to it.
Plus, it eliminates all doubt that I have any ill will towards Uncle Teddy.
ILTK~
July 1, 2009 - 17:54 ET by Georgia GirlAbsolutely. I think it's actually a positive thing you got some complaints & pressure to change it, in that a bunch of conservatives didn't want a bad connotation attached to Kennedy. :)
It's rather ironic given how
July 1, 2009 - 18:00 ET by Another Dead KennedyIt's rather ironic given how I am obviously a liberal.
By the way, thanks to Mitchell Blatt for making the switch.
→ KDW
July 1, 2009 - 19:22 ET by Cool ArrowGood nickname!
Very slimming.
I realize it's obnoxiously
July 1, 2009 - 19:23 ET by Another Dead KennedyI realize it's obnoxiously long, so I'm willing to accept new nicknames. Maybe I should set up a poll?
→ KDW
July 1, 2009 - 19:25 ET by Cool ArrowIf I were a liberal, I'd choose something catchy like Left Standing
Not that I want to help the left all that much, but it is a good nick.
Good suggestion. I felt I
July 1, 2009 - 19:30 ET by Another Dead KennedyGood suggestion. I felt I needed to keep the Kennedy theme so people would still know it's me. I'm not trying to hide, just not offend.
→ Kennedy Left Standing?
July 1, 2009 - 19:33 ET by Cool ArrowSorry, I guess that's just as bad.
Cool, that's the second one
July 2, 2009 - 11:35 ET by Another Dead KennedyCool, that's the second one I love! Where were you before I changed my name?
I dont like it
July 1, 2009 - 19:30 ET by general companyBut its better then the last one. Least the new folks will know your a loon right off of the bat. : ]
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Aww, that was sweet. Hey,
July 1, 2009 - 19:31 ET by Another Dead KennedyAww, that was sweet. Hey, wait a minute!
ILTK~regarding a nickname...
July 1, 2009 - 21:39 ET by Georgia GirlHere's the dilemma for the conservatives among us ... if we abbreviate your ID on the subject header, we're going to end up stating things like: "I Love Ted," "Love Ted" or "Love Kennedy."
See our problem? Our fingers will revolt against typing such a proclamation. LOL. I am hard-pressed to agree with many of his ideas/policies, but I like him fine. I just can't love him in a subject header. ;)
I think "Kennedy" will have
July 2, 2009 - 11:39 ET by Another Dead KennedyI think "Kennedy" will have to stand as my short name.
Or anything else that Cool Arrow comes up with. He's good at this.
Kennedy~
July 2, 2009 - 12:08 ET by Georgia GirlI agree. Cool is quite creative.
I do like "Kennedy Left Standing," but I'm afraid you are going to get complaints on that one. There may be a connotation that he's one of the few Kennedy family members who have not died. I know, can ya believe it? LOL.
Cool will come up with something great ...^_^
ILTK....
July 2, 2009 - 12:51 ET by BarkerLet me take a stab at this:
Are you a Dead Kennedys Fan?
If so, maybe give it (DKF) a shot.
Interesting connection.
July 2, 2009 - 13:08 ET by Another Dead KennedyInteresting connection. You're the first to suggest a tie to the 80s new wave band. I once was in fact a fan in my younger years, but the current lineup without Jello, well it just ain't the same. It's like Queen without Freddie Mercury, or the Jackson 5 without, um...
Love Teddy all you want
July 1, 2009 - 19:23 ET by Paragrouperbut ware the late-night car rides with him.
"If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking." - General George Patton Jr
Georgia, not sure I'm
July 1, 2009 - 19:18 ET by CacciatoGeorgia, not sure I'm getting the point of your post.
Are you disagreeing with my fan estimate or injecting a little good natured but lame humor into the conversation.
What part of my argument exactly do you disagree with?
Good point Cacciato
July 1, 2009 - 19:31 ET by Cool ArrowThere is a huge group of humans willing to accept a child molestor as hero as long as he can sing and dance.
Those are the people who are in for more than a penny. They've sold every bit of moral uprightness for the sake of an idol.
Left and Right used to at least agree child molestation is wrong. I don't see that agreement anymore, or we wouldn't be discussing whether the MJ mourning show deserves the attention it is getting.
Cacciato~
July 1, 2009 - 21:09 ET by Georgia GirlUh, no. I have a much more sophisticated sense of humor than that. I was serious, dude.
Review your posts, from top to bottom. I'm confident you'll pick up on it. And by "confident," I mean I have very little hope that you'll understand -- and am anticipating your asking me another general type of question or choosing to take a swipe at me instead.
There. That last sentence was humor. ;)
Still not following. What
July 2, 2009 - 07:18 ET by CacciatoStill not following. What exactly are you serious about?
Are you disagreeing with my assertion that there are millions of people who were Michael Jackson fans who never bought albums?
Make a concrete point or move along. Your broad attempt at mockery has fallen flat.
Cacciato~
July 2, 2009 - 07:57 ET by Georgia GirlMe:
Review your posts, from top to bottom. I'm confident you'll pick up on it. And by "confident," I mean I have very little hope that you'll understand -- and am anticipating your asking me another general type of question or choosing to take a swipe at me instead.
You:
Still not following. What exactly are you serious about?
Are you disagreeing with my assertion that there are millions of people who were Michael Jackson fans who never bought albums?
Make a concrete point or move along. Your broad attempt at mockery has fallen flat.
Yep, exactly what I predicted -- except that you did all three! And I wasn't mocking you. I was laughing in frustration because I knew how you would respond, and you did! Hence, the sophisticated humor. ^_^ So...never mind. There's nothing you can do. I don't mean that in a cruddy way. You just can't relate. You can't see it.
Cacc,Less than 2 Billion people on this Planet have ELECTRICITY.
July 1, 2009 - 11:41 ET by upcountrywaterHow the heck do they listen to his "songs"?
I have electricity and I have ZERO jackson songs.
100 million copies of the BIBLE are sold every year.
Math dudelette; how many Bibles are sold in 8 years?
More than a life time of mikeys works?
How many years has the Bible been for sale?
Reagan VS Liberalism
Jacko none too prolific, either
July 1, 2009 - 12:04 ET by SickofLibsLet's also remember that he only released a measly 11 albums (excluding some compilations ) over his entire solo career of 35 years, and only 3 in the past 18 years. (The J5 stuff was of course mainly singles.)
Cacciato:
July 1, 2009 - 12:50 ET by BarkerWhen I said he was more popular than Jesus, I am not implying he is
more important, more historically significant, or better than Jesus.
I'm talking simply about popularity based purely on number of people
who know of the man. In this respect, I think Michael Jackson is
easily more popular than Jesus.
It's too bad for you that Michael Jackson never healed the sick, right?
Barker, He never healed
July 1, 2009 - 14:20 ET by CacciatoBarker,
He never healed the sick personally, but the tens of millions of dollars he donated towards Cancer & AIDs research, as well as individual hospitals, certainly went a loooong way towards healing the sick.
People seem to only want to remember the sensational Michael Jackson stories. They seem to conveniently forget that he has single-handedly done more charity work than any other celebrity.
No matter how you feel about the last ten years of his life, it's insane to attempt to discount the tremendous amount of TANGIBLE good he did for the world.
It's all public knowlege. I'll post this link again to his list of works b/c people clearly are ignoring the fact that he was a great human being.
LINK
Really?
July 1, 2009 - 14:28 ET by BlondeThey seem to conveniently forget that he has single-handedly done more charity work than any other celebrity.
Let's see you back that up with some facts, sonny.
Facts. Not opinion.
I hope he fails, too.
Blonde, I did back it up
July 1, 2009 - 16:18 ET by CacciatoBlonde,
I did back it up with facts in the link I provided in my above post.
Just because you chose to ignore them, doesn't mean they aren't there. Go take a gander when you have a minute. It's impressive to say the least.
Furthermore, in my above link (again), it explicitly states that in the Millenium edition of the Guiness Book of World Records, Michael Jackson is named as the star that supports the most charitable organizations.
I'm not sure how you are able to call a factual list of Michael Jackson's charitable works and donations an opinion. That makes no sense at all.
Ccacciato, I read the list. Bad form to post a reference.
July 1, 2009 - 17:08 ET by acaiguanaListen to me, friend. You posted this list and I read it. I wandered through the various citings of his charitable acts.
A number of them involved givng away 'free' ttickets to concerts. I have no way to determine the value of such tickets or how many were given.
A number of them involved sharing 'some' of the proceeds with charity.
But striking was the number of times Michael Jackson was cited for allowing Children to 'visit' him on his so-called Neverland Ranch. No monitary value was attached.
From the little monitary information I got from the list, it looks like Jackson maay have contributed somewhere North or South of $30 million to charity.
Flash, just in: Bill and Melissa Gates foundation was endowed with somewhere North of $50 Billion.
Flash, just in: Warren Buffet has joined Bill and Melissa with somewhere around $50 Billion.
Michael Jackson and his charity.
Your factual list includes speeches, awards and apparences in Hospitals. Big deal.
ACA
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Aca, Your estimate is way
July 1, 2009 - 19:31 ET by CacciatoAca,
Your estimate is way low and you don't really have any room to say anything about michael jackson's charitable giving after your wildly ignorant post this morning.
Your superficial reading of the link led you to some dubious conclusions:
1) Where he donated proceeds it was all not some
2). You ignore the hospital wings he built etc.
3). You forget that donating time is just as valuable as donating money
4). Buffett and the gates are some of the most generous people ever to live but I don't consider them to be celebrities like michael jackson and I think comparing them is apples and oranges.
Michael jackson donated way more than 30 million. You are being willfully ignorant in an attempt to save face after your embarassing display of ignorance this morning.
Oh my.....
July 1, 2009 - 19:51 ET by BlondeBye, bye little foolish pie.
No one read anything superficially about your link.
Your link was CRAP. Too bad for you.
We don't really give a crap about WHOM you consider to be a celeb or not.
You are gonna have to try a whole lot harder, little grasshopper.
You are the one being willfully ignorant. Get a clue...or get lost.
I hope he fails, too.
Blonde, Could you
July 2, 2009 - 07:21 ET by CacciatoBlonde,
Could you possibly be more specific? What about the link was crap?
It was a comprehensive, all inclusive link of all of Michael Jackson's charitable donations, works, and contributions.
Those are the facts, that you, yourself, asked (nay, demanded) above. Now when I point them out to you, your response is that they are crap? Methinks you didn't even check the link.
You know I'm right and you are wrong, so you'd rather write a condescending post about nothing in order to avoid reality.
Weak style, but that is your modus operandi. Seems like a waste of time, but to each his own.
Listen, Buckwheat
July 1, 2009 - 19:48 ET by BlondeYou didn't back up diddly.
You stated....MJ was the biggest celeb donor ever.
Put up or shut up, now son.
I ignored your pathetic links, fella, because they were pathetic links.
Tell me about the all time charitable donations....you know, Bill & Melissa Gates, Warren Buffet....hells bells, little troll...how about Jerry Freakin' Lewis?
You are SO dismissed.
I hope he fails, too.
→ Blonde
July 1, 2009 - 19:55 ET by Cool ArrowThat's gonna leave a mark. May have scarred him for life.
Yes
July 1, 2009 - 19:58 ET by BlondeThat was the point. ->
I hope he fails, too.
Bill & Melissa Gates /
July 2, 2009 - 07:24 ET by CacciatoBill & Melissa Gates / Warren Buffet are not celebrities.
They are business people with billions of dollars.
Jerry Lewis, did a tremendous amount of Good, but less than Michael Jackson.
I provided all of the necessary evidence. Keep your head in the sand if you want, but to outsiders reading this thread, it just makes you look childish.
Mr. Newman
July 2, 2009 - 08:38 ET by UnsaneI have you beat.
The Economist tells us that the biggest philanthropy from a celebrity comes not from Michael Jackson but the recently departed actor Paul Newman. This according to an obituary on Mr. Newman published last fall.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
dunno about this year
July 1, 2009 - 20:05 ET by katainkentbut in 2007 it was Oprah (58.3 mil for 2007) who topped the celebrity Philathropic A-List. Followed by 30 other folks. None of which were Michael Jackson. And that's my 30 seconds of google to this topic.
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Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past - George Orwell - 1984
→ kata
July 1, 2009 - 20:10 ET by Cool ArrowAnd Oprah actually did try to shelter children from molestation.
Cool, You sure about
July 2, 2009 - 07:30 ET by CacciatoCool,
You sure about that?
LINK
Ha. Love how you just had to insert your two cents, only to be wrong! Ouch.
Kat, Nice try, but that's
July 2, 2009 - 07:29 ET by CacciatoKat,
Nice try, but that's just one year. I'm talking life time. Your google research proves nothing at all.
Thanks for playing though.
well...
July 2, 2009 - 11:53 ET by katainkentI looked over your list -
It monetarily specifically lists $12,284,000 over a lifetime - his largest donations came in 1997. (I also didn't bother with the spanish pecetas and the english pounds money conversions and just went with american dollar amounts.)
also in the list with no monetary value attached :
So yes - given that Oprah donated 58.3 million in 1 year.... I'd say its a good bet she tops his donations.
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Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past - George Orwell - 1984
Kat, You do realize how
July 2, 2009 - 13:25 ET by CacciatoKat,
You do realize how substantial his record proceeds are right? He did sell 750 million albums..
Furthermore, you left out tangible things that he gave money to, i.e. building hospital wings.
On a side note, why exactly are you arguing with me? What is it that you are trying to prove? That Michael Jackson didn't do a lot of good for the world?
I don't understand your motivation. You went to a lot of trouble to do this research, and for what?
right back atcha, cacc
July 2, 2009 - 14:02 ET by katainkentcreepy is the best word I can find to describe Mr Jackson. I am sorry for his families loss. That's as far as I go. So back atcha - I would wonder why you've taken the time to defend him. And no that's more a hypothetical question. I really don't want the details.
Do you know how much per album an artist actually makes after everyone else takes their share? It's rather sad.
and no, that above took me about 8 minutes to collate. I am extremely fast with Excel.
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Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past - George Orwell - 1984
Kat, No time to go
July 2, 2009 - 13:32 ET by CacciatoKat,
No time to go through the whole list now, but here are some items that have undisclosed dollar amounts, but are undoubtedly large and not included in your serious underestimation:
1) Michael equips 19 bed unit at Mount Senai NY Medical Center
2) Part of his earnings from the Victory Tour (which was huuuge)
3) 100% of the We Are the World proceeds
4) Proceeds from sale of Man in the Mirror record
5) Proceeds of 1988 LA concert
6) 1989 – charitable donations not specified to hospitals
7) Undisclosed financial gift to Youth Sports & Arts Foundation in LA
8) Funds raised in 1992 World Tour for the We Are the World Foundation
So unless you can calculate these numbers (which are undoubtedly giant) you have no argument.
undoubtably. lol
July 2, 2009 - 14:05 ET by katainkentand you have no idea how much O has donated every other year since she's been on the air either. I would say we're at an impasse. I am sure you'd beg to differ.
Have a nice weekend Cacc.
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Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past - George Orwell - 1984
Jesus has "sold" far more units than Jacko ever will
July 1, 2009 - 14:33 ET by nkviking75Cacciato, the Bible is by far the best selling book of all time. Its sales eclipse the 750 million units sold of Jacko's albums. Then add all the books, music, and movies, and recorded sermons based on the life and message of Jesus. Those sales are incalcuable. Then add up 2,000 years of his followers. By your logic, Jesus' fame easily dwarfs Michael Jackson's.
MJ was incredibly famous, but ultimately matters little next to Jesus.
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
nkviking75,
July 1, 2009 - 14:57 ET by BarkerCacciato's assertion that Jacko is more popular than Jesus is just plain stupidity on his part -whether intentionally inflammatory or not- and he knows it. At least I hope he does.
What say you, Cac?
Huh???
July 1, 2009 - 22:07 ET by RESTLESS 1Has it occured to you that many if not most of the buyers of his works were Christians? Do you really think that they regarded Michael more highly than their savior?
You're making less sense than usual.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Noel, I don't think Cacciato
July 1, 2009 - 11:23 ET by WisdomNoel,
I don't think Cacciato missed the point at all. I read the column and thought to myself "Is Mr. Bozell really saying these things about someone who hasn't even been gone a week?" The negativity was astounding.
But I see the bigger point and where someone like yourself or Bozell has a different understanding. You say Michael "systematically destroyed himself." Do you really want to blame it all on MJ? Doesn't any blame arise on our society's obsession with celebrity? This obsession started overshadowing and tainting the music. I could not imagine living in his shoes the last 20 years having no privacy at all. I'm sure I would go crazy too. Give the man some credit and understand that he was the most famous man on the planet; when all he wanted in the first place was to put out some good music.
And I love Farrah but she couldn't hold a candle to Michael's contribution around the world. Not only through his music but through his philanthropy. He was one of the biggest givers of all time. And he represented nothing but love. Unfortunately, the fact that he had some mental problems and couldn't seem to outgrow his childlike ways, caused him to be the punchline joke the last 15 years.
You say "Farrah was a greater human being in her final years than Jackson." Who are you to judge who is a "greater human being." That is ridiculous. Did you know Michael? Maybe we didn't hear from him much, but I'm sure if he wasn't followed by negative press everywhere he went, he would've loved to have been out in public more making a difference.
The point is that there is a positive to take from his death, and that's the fact that millions of people are now rediscovering his music without focusing on his personal life and all his problems. People are finding the true genius in the music again. I know I did. I realize Bozell isn't a music critic so he's not going to reexamine the musical contribution of MJ but the least he could do is not be another person spewing negativity about him.
And you say the media is "ignoring his foibles" as if you wish they'd be more negative. Get out of here. I had to shut the news off because all they wanted to talk about were his downfalls, and ignore his music. It's quite upsetting to me that you think the media should've focused MORE on his shortcomings. Is it that hard for people to just listen to the music and let him rest in peace?
Oh please. I suppose
July 1, 2009 - 13:00 ET by HelenSOh please.
I suppose you're another one, like Cacciato, who is still scratching your head over the line, "The coverage was an ocean wide – and an inch deep."
It takes depth to understand depth. Ever consider changing your username, by the way? "Wisdom" seems just a bit of a stretch.
Me - "The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years - the cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil."
Great post Wisdom.
July 1, 2009 - 16:18 ET by CacciatoGreat post Wisdom. Perfectly stated.
For the Unwise
July 2, 2009 - 08:35 ET by UnsanePeople are finding the true genius in the music again. I know I did. If you want to find true genius in music, I suggest not listening to Michael Jackson. He was great if you want poppy, bubblegum music. True genius in music lies elsewhere.
I now shamelessly plug Dream Theater's latest album, Black Clouds and Silver Linings. Within that album, and others by them, is musical genius.
But I see the bigger point and where someone like yourself or Bozell has a different understanding. You say Michael "systematically destroyed himself." Do you really want to blame it all on MJ? Doesn't any blame arise on our society's obsession with celebrity? No, because at the end of the day, it comes down to the decisions we make as individuals. Michael Jackson did systematically destroy himself through a series of bad decisions and by turning away from the music. He basically did NOTHING since Dangerous came out. (Why people still insist on calling him the "king of pop" is beyond me, even if you factor in his massive successes in the 1980s.)
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Cacciato says, "YOU STOP
July 1, 2009 - 09:57 ET by HockeyKidCacciato says, "YOU STOP MAKING FUN OF MIIIIICHAELLLLLLLL!!!!!"
Head on over to YouTube, dude. There's 15 minutes of fame there, just waiting for you.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Great reference
July 1, 2009 - 10:21 ET by jdlybrandNow that's funny!
the hype
July 1, 2009 - 08:05 ET by rowdygirlI agree completely ! He made himself into a joke and the media played along, until last week. Then all of a sudden, he became an "icon" and a "genius". I'm so sick of all the stories about the twisted and warped lives that these celebrities live, and then they're excused from their sick behavior because they're famous.
There are plenty of people who have abusive childhoods (and adult lives as well) who still lead sane and productive lives. Being famous shouldn't mean that all your ridiculous behavior is warranted. He had abundant resources to get the help that he needed. Why didn't he? He would be the only one to answer that.
I will always believe that he behaved inappropriately with children, even though he bought his aquittal. He used the excuse that he loved children, but it seems that his focus was always on young boys. If that doesn't throw up a red flag, nothing will. Again, he bought his way out of trouble. No one pays off a plantiff if they're innocent. The media is conveniently "forgetting" all of this in the name of higher ratings. Oh, they might throw in a word or two, but that's about it.
So why he continue to lead such a crazy life? My guess is this: It takes work to get well. When you have mental health issues, in whatever form, you have to actually work at moving past them to a better place. You can't sit back and take a pill, and let everyone around you kiss you butt and tell you you're great. That won't help anything; all it does is feed the narcissism in your tormented soul.
Jackson's wasted life and fistful of opportunities.
July 1, 2009 - 08:13 ET by acaiguanaWhen a person has as much talent as Jackson and the economic success of his career (regardless of his debts, etc) one would hope that some social good could come from it.
He could have set up an educational foundation, a fund for historic research into Black History, championed human rights in Chad or any other African nation, he could have given speeches in High Schools countering the cultural bias against 'What man's education' that exists in the inner cities.
He could have...
But he didn't. Not as far as I am aware.
I'm sure he did some benefit stuff with Lizzy Taylor and he probably paid lip service to Civil Rights, but he did not lead and he was no role model.
ACA
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Quoted from: 'Acaiguana notes from the Underground' (Soon to be at theaters near you)
ACA, You really couldn't
July 1, 2009 - 08:34 ET by CacciatoACA,
You really couldn't be more wrong. Wow.
It's amazing that you would actually make the claim that Michael Jackson did nothing for the world without doing even a minimal amount of research.
Here's a comprehensive list of Michael Jackson's charitable work, volunteerism, & organizations that he helped to support:
LINK
Your ignorance is offensive.
Ah well, ignorance is bliss... ACA
July 1, 2009 - 09:52 ET by acaiguanaGee, if ignorance is offensive to you, try the number of people who voted for Obama on for size. You'll probably have to go back into therapy.
OK, Jackson supported charity. I'll buy that. Why haven't I ever heard of it? I dunno, maybe because I'm not too interested in Hollywood charities. Maybe you need to be more offended by your lack of perspective.
Perspective is what liberal trolls lack. It is basically the ability to put everything in its proper place. I will assert that it sure looks to me that Michael Jackson was more charitable than say, Jesus.
Speaking of your lack of perspective, Jesus, I remind you, was never trying to be popular. He was considered a troublemaker by his own Jewish community; he went against the status quo in such a way as to get him killed. That didn't work out for him too well on this earth.
However, when Jesus was goofing around in the Middle East there were very poor digital recordings and gosh, no TV. Yet we still argue about his teachings and his religous philosophy of life even unto today.
Now, before you get your panties in a bunch, I'm not a Christian, by the way.
When you make insane statements that Michael Jackson is more 'popular' than Jesus, you demonstrate a deficiency of rational perspective. A deficiency of rational perspective has been advanced among those who study such things as a pretty good definition of insanity.
Insanity running amok in the public sector of a blog, well...
offends me.
So, I do appreciate your educational link to Jackson's charitable work. I will take a moment to reset that part of my database. Thanks.
On the other hand, you have a more daunting task ahead of you, if you can get past all those things ignorant that offend you.
ACA
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Quoted from: 'Acaiguana notes from the Underground' (Soon to be at theaters near you)
Very nice ACA
July 1, 2009 - 11:01 ET by general companyI doubt anyone will be singing "Beat-it" 2000 years from now.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
GenCo
July 1, 2009 - 17:16 ET by MrShyProbably not "Beat It", but gotta admit "Billy Jean", "Rock With You" and "Don't Stop..." are insanely catchy (for me, anyway) and, well, in maybe 100 years I'll be singing those.... that is, when I'm 125 years old (yes, I'm only 25. :p)
You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!
Only 25
July 1, 2009 - 17:19 ET by general companyI am jealous. I never did understand the attraction, but then I had "disco sucks" tee shirts
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Disco Sucks T-shirts are a good thing.
July 1, 2009 - 17:29 ET by acaiguanaI remember Grease. That was when John Revolta danced. I have to admit that the man can dance.
Other than that, he's a nut case.
But I digress.
There seems to be cycles in Pop culture. Disco was big in the '70's when Disco was, well...
big.
Then the '80's came in and Disco was out.
Then the early 2000's came in and Disco was 'in'. The quote marks are sarcastic for those who read quote marks.
If you want to Disco, go to Acapulco, which is the Disco Capital of the world. Last time I looked, they had a Disco that would hold 5,000 people.
Go figure.
Tecno all the way...
Dungeons and Dragons rule.
ACA
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Quoted from: 'Acaiguana notes from the Underground' (Soon to be at theaters near you)
GenCo
July 2, 2009 - 08:51 ET by MrShyNo, I'm not 25. I'm a bit older. :p (my poor attempt at humor there... :))
You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!
Emotional Response
July 1, 2009 - 08:32 ET by GothampcWhat I don't understand is some people's emotional response. When I heard the news I said "Wow, that's too bad." But they show people on tv crying like it was the death of their parent. These are people that never even met MJ. I tried to think of one famous person who I'd cry over if they died. I can't think of anyone. Yet I cried buckets when my grandmother died. What is the attachment to celebrities that makes people fall to pieces over their death?
I'm happy to say that I
July 1, 2009 - 08:47 ET by mattmI'm happy to say that I watched no more of the Jacko coverage than I do any other news, which isn't much...
More popular than Jesus?
July 1, 2009 - 09:20 ET by ckbennetttnWow, Cacciato! That's messed up. There are those who care more about Jackson than they do Jesus, but this only illustrates how messed up this world is, read Romans Ch. 1 (in the Bible) for more on this. The point is, most people are overly concerned with celebrity and don't pay attention to the more important things. This is a major reason for Obama being in the White House.
Jackson may have supported some good causes while alive. Unfortunately, that does not matter now. It isn't how we are judged. It isn't a balance sheet. There is only one way and it isn't good deeds, it is Jesus Christ.
Obama: 'I screwed up'--We're going to be seeing this a lot.
ck~agreed
July 1, 2009 - 10:02 ET by Georgia GirlAnd even more than being messed up, it's unbelievably sad.
Brent
July 1, 2009 - 09:37 ET by Noel SheppardBrent,
Bravo!
As a childhood fan of both these pop icons, I too am displeased with the media's decision to brush Farrah aside on the occasion of her death.
Unlike Michael, who showed so much promise and talent at an early age, Farrah only got better, and became one of those rare, classy, giving pop stars right to her last breath. By contrast, as you stated, Michael's finest days are well behind him, and he became largely an embarrassment as an adult especially the last ten to fifteen years.
Despite Michael's far greater talent and fame, Farrah was a far better person, and deserving of a much-better media farewell than what she got. ns
NS
July 1, 2009 - 09:47 ET by BlondeWhile I agree that Brent Bozell's piece is spot on, he did miss one thing that could have absolutely driven home the point of your last sentence.
I caught a bit of Fawcett's documentary the other day. During her epic battle with her disease, there was another insidious enemy she was fighting, and that was the tabloid press. While coping with chemo and all the rest of it, Farrah was able to single-handedly take on and uncover corruption from within the system....health care workers profitting from selling information about her medical condition.
It was poignant to hear it in her own words, that she had finally triumphed over the ever chattering tabloid press....and shut them up regarding her medical condition. I believe CA enacted a medical privacy law as a result of Farrah's efforts, and this may be her greatest legacy to us all, as we have socialized governmental health care shoved down our throats.
I hope he fails, too.
Blonde
July 1, 2009 - 09:57 ET by Noel SheppardJJ,
Great point. Thanks. ns
I garrentee you
July 1, 2009 - 14:53 ET by general companyFarrah had a far bigger impact on me then Jackson.
Great info Blonde, so Farrah may have a greater impact on all of us. Thanks to the press we may never even know.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Anyone notice?
July 1, 2009 - 09:48 ET by nolotrippenAnyone notice? I was at the market yesterday and there were plenty of magazines with Jackson on the cover. But they were all pre-self-mutilation Jackson.
One clarification: MJ did contribute a lot of cash to charities.
As for him being anywhere nearly as popular as our Lord, please. He won't even be as fondly remembered as Elvis, who may have gone out a little on the tubby side, but didn't go out looking like the Crypt Keeper.
How he lived his life as man must all fall on his shoulders. But as a youngster, some of his weirdness can be laid at the foot of his family. I spoke to someone who knew him in High School and said he was a great guy (yes, he had a high voice), but that no one who wasn't a Jehovah's Witness could come over to his house.
Sorry for double post.
July 1, 2009 - 09:51 ET by nolotrippenSorry for double post.
I Don't Understand.
July 1, 2009 - 09:54 ET by someloudthunderWhy did he get a whole day of news for his death?
Gee I don't know might have to do with the fact that he was the "King of Pop" and loved by millions around the globe.
I don't know if that too hard to wrap your head around.
Nothing that ever came out
July 1, 2009 - 10:05 ET by SickofLibsNothing that ever came out of a loudspeaker "changed my life forever."
Not even Stairway To Heaven or Free Bird.
I have, however, just placed my order for The Franklin Mint's "Jacko Commemorative Cod Plate."
This constant coverage is
July 1, 2009 - 12:34 ET by msh1973This constant coverage is not unlike the coverage of Anna Nicole Smith...the truth is that Michael Jackson was a troubled soul who was to be pitied. Everyone in his life wanted something from him, including his family. Stars in Hollywood (film or music) are not allowed to age like regular folks, it is very sad and disturbing.
Spot on, msh
July 1, 2009 - 12:38 ET by BlondeYou and I are the only ones here to have drawn the parallel between MJ & ANS....perhaps because she died here, and we were subjected to weeks and months of media madness.
Your comment, though says ALL that needs to be said about MJ and the over-the-top coverage of his death. I truly wish we could use your words as the big period to the coverage (meaning, "it's over, The End).
I hope he fails, too.
Alas, BO's ego is still if
July 1, 2009 - 12:48 ET by HelenSAlas, BO's ego is still if full bloom: he has some sort of face-time press conference scheduled for today about something he's already exhausted and worn out, like health care or some other tired old thing.
Behold! The Fraud in Chief with another lie to bludgeon us! Hail to the Chief!
(This comment SHOULD have gone up after "Motherbelt's" comment WAY up the page. My bad... I guess the whole "reply" function is beyond my grasp today :o( ...)
Me - "The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years - the cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil."
Billy Mays
July 1, 2009 - 13:19 ET by jacktherippersold more oxy-clean than MJ did albums....NOW THAT'S POPULAR, R.I.P. sweet pitchman
"But what, exactly, is it
July 1, 2009 - 22:30 ET by balboa"But what, exactly, is it that Michael Jackson brought to America that was so essential? An alien arriving from space would find him celebrated for dressing in shiny socks and dancing the "moonwalk.""
Classic Brent. Don't ever say he's not prescient.
"Don't ever say he's not prescient"
July 2, 2009 - 08:43 ET by UnsaneTis true, balboa. Michael Jackson was a successful purveyor of pop music (in the 1980s) and...that's it.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
I'm not certain Farrah did
July 1, 2009 - 22:51 ET by AlanaI'm not certain Farrah did everything humanly possible to save her life.
I don't know if it is true, but I have read several times since she was diagnosed that doctors wanted her to have a colostomy. However, she didn't want that, and instead went to Germany for experimental treatments.