Rock stars are rarely controversial for acting like rock stars. A decadent lifestyle of sex, drugs, and alcohol abuse are the expected menu. In our upside-down popular culture, rock stars create controversy only when they advocate an alternative lifestyle – when they wear purity rings and abstain from sex until marriage.
Some dream of being rock stars just for the selfish fantasy of organizing an assembly line of casual sex partners. In the minds of those with no moral brake on their sex drive, rock stars favoring abstinence are wasting a national resource, akin to monks pledging a vow of poverty while living inside a gold mine.
Last September, the Disney-boosted teen rockers known as the Jonas Brothers were a rich target for mockery at the MTV Video Music Awards for their purity rings. The emcee, a British comedian named Russell Brand, sneered that the Jonas Brothers were "a little bit ungrateful because they could have sex with any woman they want. That is like Superman deciding not to fly and go everywhere on a bus." Tee-hee, and all that.
Six months later, the sleazy Comedy Central cartoon "South Park" picked up where MTV left off, beginning their thirteenth season of imbecility on March 11 with an entire episode mocking purity rings and the Jonas Brothers. Comedy Central liked it so much that they replayed it weeknight after weeknight.
But before we get to that treat, there’s this. On March 14, just three days after "South Park" resurfaced from the muck, Brand was interviewed on National Public Radio about his new memoir about his sadly debauched upbringing. It was shocking. Six months after leading the MTV charge, Brand suddenly attacked media corporations for commodifying sex to an extreme: "You know, food is not sold to us through necessity any longer, and sex isn't presented to us as a necessity, but more as a lifestyle. And I think the constant stimulation of these biological needs can lead to these sort of excessive, compulsive behaviors."
Take that, MTV.
Brand, who had giggled in front of MTV’s spotlights at anyone who’d tell a teenager that sex can wait, spent time in rehab for sex addiction. He told NPR that he was brought up by a sickly single mother, and his father was nothing but dysfunctional: "Yeah, when I was a teenager, I went to the Far East with my dad. And my dad himself was fatherless and didn't necessarily know how to bring up a teenager. And you know, we did end up visiting sort of brothels and things like that. I think that was just, in a way, his manner of communicating."
By contrast, the Jonas Brothers have a father who is a Christian minister. But in today’s culture, fathers who teach their sons to love their religious faith and to restrain themselves are setting their boys up for massive ridicule. Fathers who would take their teenagers to Asian brothels as a "manner of communicating" are apparently the role models for Comedy Central and MTV. There is certainly no laughing at the end result of that road.
But for Trey Parker and Matt Stone, the perennial ninth graders behind "South Park," everything is a sick joke, especially abstinence until marriage. To them, no one could seriously advocate that position and live by it. In their typical crayon-scribble plot, the Jonas Brothers wore purity rings only as a corporate scam run by Disney, so they could "sell sex" to pre-pubescent grade-school girls. The dictatorial CEO of Disney was of course, Mickey Mouse, who screamed profanities and beat up one of the Jonas boys until his nose bled for threatening not to make the purity-ring pitch.
Our "heroes" from South Park eventually exposed Mickey Mouse and his plot, turning up the microphone at the concert hall as Mickey sneered backstage that he makes money when little girls are sexually aroused, and "little girls are f—ing stupid. The purity rings make it okay for me to do whatever I want! Even the Christians are too f—ing stupid to figure out I’m selling sex to their daughters. I’ve made billions off Christian ignorance for decades now. And do you know why? Because Christians are retarded. They believe in a talking dead guy."
Since Mickey was defeated, "South Park" producers might try to argue the uptight Christians somehow won in this defeat of cynical, purity-exploiting Disney. But once again, it’s quite clear that the people who think that the little girls and the Jonas Brothers and the purity-ring promoters and the Christians are idiots are the "South Park" crowd and their backers at Comedy Central. No matter how much they try to shift the blame, they are the profanity-spewing corporate rats who profit every time children are corrupted.
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South Park
March 20, 2009 - 21:00 ET by Joe CamelSeriousily..someone watches that show?
I sure don't...
March 20, 2009 - 21:10 ET by Mother...and with my whack sense of humor and potty mouth that's sayin' sumpin'.
-But, as much as I never got "SP"...I must admit I adored "Beavis & Butthead"...immaturity and all.
Well? They made FUN of the dorky music videos.
*giggles*
Beavis and Butthead ruled.
March 20, 2009 - 22:49 ET by mostlymoderateBeavis and Butthead ruled. Never overly dirty either.
Used to watch it, but
March 20, 2009 - 21:12 ET by BettendorUsed to watch it, but haven't caught much of it in the last five years or so. All of a sudden I'm feeling pretty good about that move.
Plenty of people watch South Park
March 20, 2009 - 21:37 ET by shawn228Many on this site enjoy it too. It might be crude but they make fun of libs and conservatives all the same, nobody is safe.
He had my vote
I gotta give the props to the latest shawn incarnation. #228
March 21, 2009 - 06:40 ET by JWFI will be nice to Shawn and not because I was ordered to either.
South Park is oddly enough on our side.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park_Republican
There is a book - South Park Conservatives
http://www.amazon.com/South-Park-Conservatives-Against-Liberal/dp/0895260190
The original South Park Republicans article
http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/_dmn_southpark_reps.htm
Yes. South Park is vulgar and ugly and dripping with vicious sarcasm. But it is also not meant to be viewed by anyone.
"All characters and events in this show --even those based on real people-- are entirely fictional. All celebrity voices are impersonated ... poorly. The following program contains coarse language and due to its content it should not be viewed by anyone."
South Park also takes the fight to the enemy. Liberals, like Terminators, can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity or remorse. And like Terminators, they will not stop until we are dead. They operate on pure emotion. There is only one thing that can stop a liberal, vicious sarcastic mocking.
There is usually a message to be taken away from every South Park episode.
Now I don't have any children, nor do I watch Disney Channel, nor have I seen or listened to anything by the Jonas Brothers. But I think I get the jist of the message. Abstinence and purity rings are a good idea might be a good idea and all, but is it something that a huge corporation should be turning into a national fad and making scads of money off of.
Now this is where we run into problems because how do you explain all teh funniness that goes with the message. The idea that Micky Mouse is runing the corporation is funny because you know, he does not. He is a cartoon mouse and yes, he does not even exist. And then when he is extremely mean and kicking the one Jonahs brother, he still has the mickey mouse trademark laugh.
Also South Park does not hate all the little girls and christians. It is the Corporate Head Mickey Mouse who is caught on a HOT MIKE doing all the hating. See, the lovable mickey mouse from cartoonland is saying incredibly hateful things NOT REALISING his mike is hot.
****Update****
I just watched the video of the song "burnin up" by the Jonas Brothers. This appears to be the song South Park is making fun of. That song most certainly does not jam up with the idea of purity rings.
****Update 2****
I saw a few posts here from some younger viewers. This is why we should not dump so hard on South Park. It is bringing in the younger adults. They watch for the humour and learn valuable conservative messages.
We need all the friends we can get. It is a show for adults. Teh rugrats need to be in bed when it is on. What was the deal with that whole v-chip thing? Does no one use it?
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
LOL
March 21, 2009 - 06:48 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsLiberals, like Terminators, can't be reasoned with. They don't feel
pity or remorse. And like Terminators, they will not stop until we are
dead.
Great analogy.
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The voices
March 21, 2009 - 07:22 ET by general companyOn that program go right the base of my spine, I cant stand it, Rugrats and The Chipmunks do it to me also.
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
I can't put my finger on it, but
March 21, 2009 - 09:14 ET by nofatesomething about that line caught my attention. I guess I'll have to thing about it for a while. Hmmm.
SP is hilarious. SP is NOT for children. Just as "World Police" is not for children. You can find a link to "World Police" on Brent's friend Rush's site, I have heard him mention it several times over the years. SP goes after everyone who is the least bit pretentious. On the lib side, remember ManBearPig? The cloud of Smug over the hybrid driving communities of SP, San Fran, and George Clooney's Oscar night rant meeting up and causing global destruction? Super Best Friends, in which they not only went after the pretentious aspects of religions but included Mohammed as one of the ridiculed characters?
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Relax People
March 20, 2009 - 21:40 ET by shawn228First the bruhuha over Family now South Park. South Park is a great show and many people enjoy it. I thought the episode was hilarious.
He had my vote
You're a liberal-tarian anything goes person
March 21, 2009 - 00:33 ET by Daniel BakerIs cartoon child pornography okay with you too?
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Google and Apple officially fought traditional marriage: . Please Boycott them. A Boycott changed McDonald's mind.
And DOWN the slippery slope
March 21, 2009 - 00:42 ET by balboaAnd DOWN the slippery slope you go!
Oh Please Daniel.
March 21, 2009 - 00:42 ET by shawn228People like you get offended at the crack of dawn. That was not anything like child porn, If I remember correctly your the one that made a big stink about the NB t-shirt girls.
Stuffy prudes like you are the reason people vote democrat.
He had my vote
No answer to my question.
March 21, 2009 - 00:45 ET by Daniel BakerMy support of modesty is why people vote democrat?
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No Daniel
March 21, 2009 - 00:51 ET by shawn228You have a right to want modesty, and if it is your fetish not to have skirts any higher than the ankles thats fine.
The thing is, you support people like Mr. Bozell and the PTC that want to call advertisers that support shows like Southpark to take it off the air or tone it down.
People like you want to take away someone else wants just because you don't like it. That is not being conservative, that is being a moral nanny.
He had my vote
This show has reruns on broadcast tv
March 21, 2009 - 01:08 ET by Daniel BakerChildren get their morals from it. I guess I should have no say in what shapes my society according to you
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whichever
March 21, 2009 - 06:04 ET by RowaneWhichever fool lets his kids watch this show without at least talking to them about it is a poor excuse for a parent.
Thats why children should not be watching it Daniel
March 21, 2009 - 08:13 ET by shawn228When the reruns are on broadcast tv, it is usually on late at night.
He had my vote
Can you us what stations this is broadcast on.
March 21, 2009 - 08:22 ET by JWFI am not aware of South Park being on broadcast.
Also, I finally give you props and you ignore me? I am full of all teh hurts. Flame on pal!
Also more more, no one should watch it. Remember the disclaimer!
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
Hi JWF
March 21, 2009 - 08:32 ET by shawn228I just logged on about 20 minutes ago, and I do not believe I was ignoring you, I was just addressing Daniel first.
Southpark is originally on Comedy central, but I have seen it broadcast in the wee hours on a WB affiliate here in the bay area. I have not watch Southpark on a regular basis for about 2 years now, because I do not want my young child watching it, but it is silly to be nitpicky to persuade adults not to watch it, that was my point to Daniel.
Thank you for the props. I'm sorry for giving you teh hurts, but carry on with your posting, I am beginning to like teh funny ;-)
He had my vote
I think it's on TBS. A
March 21, 2009 - 12:25 ET by MANstreammediaI think it's on TBS. A capable parent wouldn't let their child watch something like this until they are old enough anyway.
This is an irrelevant
March 21, 2009 - 00:47 ET by MANstreammediaThis is an irrelevant argument in this thread. You are attacking the arguer rather than addressing the argument. Therefore you are not discussing the issue.
Brent, people dream about being rock stars
March 20, 2009 - 22:08 ET by nwahsPeople dream about being rock stars for power, not sex. I'm willing to bet any 14 year old can take care of sex without an American Idol audition. They have for centuries. Teen sex is not a new dilemma. There is a tremendous lust for power in this country, and it crosses from religion to politics to music to business to academia. Humility is what is in short supply. Power is a vice. Sex is the the obvious fruition of the power. You should spend a little more time contemplating that lust for power rather than its symptoms ( gluttony, sex addiction etc.) The Jonas Brothers stand pure lusting for power? Give me a break. They are not breaking ground in music for musics sake.They're marketed pop stars.They're about power and the lust for power, just as Paris Hilton is.
You're irrational if you don't want the new president to succeed - Gingrich
Gingrich
March 21, 2009 - 05:29 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsLove your Gingrich quote, here's another:
"This man (Obama) is proving to be the most incompetent President in the history of the United States Of America. He may very well destroy the country."
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You should not drink and type
March 21, 2009 - 05:38 ET by JWFWhy are you, a 38 yo thrice divorced male thinking about much less talking about 14 year olds & teen sex.
I coulda swore the terms of your sex offender probation would have prohibited something like that.
Seriously, creepyboy, stop it. And close your robe when you are going to get the mail. No one wants to see creepyboy's willy. Put on some clothes and SOBER up for gawds sake.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
You are a strange little man
March 24, 2009 - 11:11 ET by nwahsAnd I'm sure you live a strange little life. I'm quite glad, I don't know you.
You're irrational if you don't want the new president to succeed - Gingrich
Lighten up Brent. I don't
March 20, 2009 - 22:10 ET by MANstreammediaLighten up Brent. I don't think you've watched many episodes of South Park, and I don't think you paid much attention to this episode. South Park typically makes fun of both sides of an issue. Compared to garbage, primetime sitcoms I would argue that a teenager would be better off watching South Park. On a primetime sitcom, most main characters repeatedly have promiscious sex with many partners with little to no consequence. From listening to the commentaries on most of the DVD sets, I've decided to believe allegations that Matt and Trey are both libertarians (rather than liberals like most people writing this sort of show) and overall it seems that they love America - unlike most comedians/entertainers, they don't trash it. In the episode in which Cartman kills Osama Bin Ladin (a great throwback to WWII Looney Tunes, they essentially spend the whole episode mocking the horrible terrorist), after the Afghani South Park kid-doppelgangers talk about how much they hate America, the kids blow them off and plant an American flag. In another episode, they rip on Rob Reiner for his rediculous anti-smoking stance (telling private businesses what they can and can't do). In the commentary for this episode, they claim that people accussed them of being Republicans. Their response was that if allowing people to have free choice was the Republican stance, they must be Republicans, apparently it is the new punk rock. They were also (overall) the most sympathetic to Bush amongst comedy shows. Everytime it seemed Bush was saying something crazy to the general population, he was the only one who actually knew what was going on (e.g. when he was the one that knew Saddam Hussein was secretely building WMD's in heaven- and he was).
NOTE: SPOILER
In this episode, when Kenny recieves oral sex outside of the TGI Fridays, he contracts syphilus and dies.
PS: after reading the article yesterday about people seeking news that validates their own beliefs, I'm glad that the members on this site don't agree on everything and that we currently aren't e-shouting down any opinions different than our own. (this place rules)
south park
March 20, 2009 - 22:22 ET by Darune Albanethey did a flip side to that purity eps where the whole thing was about being tramps .. the msg of that one is it is wrong to be tramps. I have watched alot of south park "not so much lately" and they rip BOTH sides of the issue such as the the election of obama .. GOT to love that one:)
That was a good one. They
March 21, 2009 - 00:12 ET by MANstreammediaThat was a good one. They made an entire ep bashing culture's seeming acceptance of little girls acting like Paris Hilton.
So you enjoyed your cartoon child pornography?
March 21, 2009 - 00:36 ET by Daniel BakerThat episodes could be properly classified as such
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Sir, by your baseless
March 21, 2009 - 00:52 ET by MANstreammediaSir, by your baseless accusations I can tell that you have obviously never seen the show. I hope that you do not engage in discussions with others that disagree with you politically in this thoughtless manner. If so, you are making the rest of us look bad. Conservatives are repeatedly shown to overall to be the party of actual logic and thought, while liberals repeatedly make emotional appeals to argue an issue. These rude comments are nothing more than emotional appeals.
Your the one saying you enjoyed the children acting like whores
March 21, 2009 - 01:05 ET by Daniel Bakerepisode of south park. I am rephrasing your godless entertainment to show how offensive it really is. Teaching others not to tune in. You are advertising for this show commenting by how great it is.
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The moral of the story was
March 21, 2009 - 12:27 ET by MANstreammediaThe moral of the story was that girls should not behave in that manner and that is no way to live. It made such behavior look awful/ridiculous (as it is).
P.S. It is a great show, you should watch it. http://www.southpark...
Also: judging by your response, you did not read my comment. I obviously stated that the episode condemned such behavior.
P.S.S. "You're"
I have spent alot of
March 20, 2009 - 22:27 ET by BlazerI have spent alot of time lol'ing out loud over South Park. Yea, it's not p.c., but they go after just about everybody and I can respect that. The takedown's of Tom Cruise and Barbara Streisand were classic. If thinking this show is funny makes me a bad conservative, than so be it.
Family guy may be a little bit to the left as far as going against conservatives, although, I still laugh at it, but SP has consistantly played it down the middle.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Seriously?
March 20, 2009 - 22:25 ET by Red Devil DawgI normally love Brent's columns but this is pretty ridiculous. Yes, they made fun of the Jonas Brothers, who cares? Just because they believe in purity, it makes them untouchable for satire? The point of the episode, in my opinion, was the fact that they are looked at as sex symbols even though they made the no sex pledges. Disney props up these good looking kids who are marginally talented for a reason. You think they would be as successful if they didn't look like they do? That's the point the creators were conveying. South Park is still a great, funny show. Just watch the post election episode to see how they make fun of everyone, regardless of party affiliation.
You do realize of course
March 20, 2009 - 22:26 ET by mandrakeYou do realize of course that Russell Brand is a purely fictional character created by a British comic..much like Eddie Izzard. The Brits have a talent for such invention.
Attacking Disney, Not Purity
March 20, 2009 - 22:32 ET by DutchI think the point of this episode is Disney pretty openly sells sex to it's tween and pre-tween audience- A sentiment I've had for some time. Even the line about "girls are.... stupid" is more a knock on the way Disney portrays young girls in it's own programming; They may throw up cardboard yelps of "Girl Power!" but spend far more time showing girls to be single-mindedly boy crazy. Again, Disney with the sex.
So It's Not Just "Family Guy" Any More?
March 20, 2009 - 22:47 ET by The7SticksI have suspected, as much, that he's been bent on getting every adult cartoon pulled off the air, whether it has a liberal or conservative viewpoint, and I base it off of this shared banality that cartoons are just for children. Any intelligent person would tell you that is not the case. I am now also convinced that he doesn't believe in the free speech rights of those who disagree with him, whether it is on the left or the right, simply because they have a sense of humor. He exposes his own hypocrisy that he has no sense of humor when it comes to making fun of things he holds so sacredly that it is considered blasphemy. It reminds me of the episode "Fantastic Easter Special" in which Bill Don-of-puke of the Catholic League tells everyone that they are being blasphemous, even to the point that he calls Pope Benedict XVI and Jesus Christ as blasphemers.
http://www.southparkstudios.com/show/display_episode.php?season=11&id1=1105&id2=162
I was correct in dubbing him a perennially spoiled brat that wants what he wants and not what anyone else wants. This just proves it even further.
First of all, I thought the instance of the Disney CEO (Mickey Mouse) spewing profanities was in reference to this recent incident at a Disney stockholders' meeting, in which the actual Disney CEO, Robert Iger, said to one of the board members "F**k you" because they brought up the issue of the ongoing postponement of releasing The Path To 9/11. Since an episode of South Park is usually produced on average in about six days from script to screen, I wouldn't put it past Trey and Matt for referencing that.
Then again, I thought the episode may have also been in reference to ABC Family's alleged exploitation of sex in that show The Secret Life Of An American Teenager. Yeah, I know I've defended that show even though I haven't seen a single episode, but I did it simply based on the fact that the creator of that show also created 7th Heaven. Just saying that it's from the creator of 7th Heaven is enough said.
I think the big picture of the episode's message is that those who promote purity rings are no better than those who promote sex-ed or safe-sex because just introducing a purity ring to a child has an effect on them that they should worry about being pure. In other words, it has their mind set on sex anyway even if the intentions of a purity ring are to promote abstinence. The point that seems to be hammered is that children should simply be left alone from being pressured, whether it's from the schools, parents and celebrities that promote sex-ed or the celebrities, parents and public policy groups that advocate abstinence. Childhood should be free of that influence, period. As Chef would say, "There is a time and a place to experiment with that stuff, and that's college."
Well, what do you know? Adult cartoons aren't just a liberal issue, like with "Family Guy." Looks like it will have to take the fans of both "South Park" and "Family Guy" to take on all these interest groups that want to silence them. In other words, this means war.
-"Respect My Authoritah!"
-Eric Cartman, from "South Park"
Now where have I seen this kind of rant before?
March 21, 2009 - 15:28 ET by JWFGot it. Scott Pakin's Automatic complaint letter generator.
http://www.pakin.org/complaint/
My complaint about Miss Girlyman W The7sticks
The last thing I wanted to do this Saturday night was spend several hours writing, editing, and typing this letter. However, I needed to do it because it's unmistakably the best way to work together in an atmosphere of friendship and hope. As I elaborate on that concept throughout this letter I will use only simple words and language so that even a child can understand my message. Yes, even a child should know that it's time that a few facts had a chance to slip through the fusillade of hype. But it goes further than that; there are two classes of people in this world. There are those who cause people to betray one another and hate one another and there are those who address the real issues faced by mankind. Miss Girlyman W The7sticks fits neatly into the former category, of course. She wants us to believe that we can solve all of our problems by giving her lots of money. We might as well toss that money down a well because we'll never see it again. What we will see, however, is that this makes me fearful that I might someday find myself in the crosshairs of Miss The7sticks's pestiferous pranks. (To be honest, though, it wouldn't be the first time.)
It's good that you're reading this letter. It's good that you're listening to what I'm saying. But reading and listening aren't enough. You must also be willing to help me expose all of Miss The7sticks's filthy, subversive, and destructive activities. In the past, when I complained that Miss The7sticks was attempting to harm others or even instill the fear of harm, I was told that I was just being mudslinging. But nowadays, people realize that if you were to try to tell her yes-men that she considers it fair game to take a condescending cheap shot at a person that most illiterate manipulators of the public mind will never be in a position to condescend to, they'd close their eyes and put their hands over their ears. They are, as the psychologists say, in denial. They don't want to hear that it's impertinent for Miss The7sticks to desecrate religious objects. Or perhaps I should say, it's brusque.
If racialism were an Olympic sport, Miss The7sticks would clinch the gold medal. After hearing about her narrow-minded attempts to give me reason to languish along beneath the thousand eyes of venom-spouting sensualists, I was saddened. I was saddened that she has lowered herself to this level. On a personal note, extremism is not merely an attack on our moral fiber. It is also a politically motivated attack on knowledge. As a parting thought, remember that Miss Girlyman W The7sticks functions not as a social critic, but as an unoriginal imitator of the ruling ideologues.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
Lame article, Brent.
March 20, 2009 - 22:48 ET by Damian GSeriously, what do you have against South Park? I ignore the episodes which target Christianity, but other than that, the show is one of the most powerful voices for smaller government, scolding political correctness and exposing liberal hypocrisy.
Lighten the [bleep] up, people!
I don't agree with you on
March 20, 2009 - 22:49 ET by BlackwaterI don't agree with you on this one Bozell. I watch South Park and these guys go after anyone and everyone. I find it to usually be hillarious, then again I am only 21 lol
"Mass genocide is the most exhausting activity one can engage in, outside of
soccer." (Dogma)
South Park is great. It is
March 20, 2009 - 23:35 ET by ApacheSouth Park is great. It is the best comedy on TV. I'm glad Mr. Bozell rails against it so much because the last thing they want is a conservative "fuddy duddy" ruining their street cred by embracing them. No offence. The show uses the very aspects of today's media that we would normally detest but instead of using it to promote depravity they use it as a vehicle to illustrate a valid point which is usually 180 degrees from what one would suspect from such a crude show. Let's take abortion. You would think with the kind of MSM we have that today's youth would be increasingly pro-choice because they are repeatedly told this is the "open-minded" view. Yet most of today's youth can tell you about the episode where Cartman's mom wanted to abort him. He was in 4th grade at the time. The pot smoking Towlie is a loser and the kids repeatedly decline to get high with him. Most everyone under thirty thinks of Manbearpig when they see Al Gore thanks to SouthPark. These are the guys that brought us Team America World Police. They took Rush's "demonstrate absurdity by being absurd" and ran with it. As far as the purity ring episode, I don't think the Jonas Brothers are seen rejecting their beliefs. They are rejecting the symbol that allows them to be exploited by Disney. Is SouthPark too cynical here? Maybe. But it wasn't promoting sex over rings because that killed Kenny. They were critical of Disney selling sex and getting a free pass via purity rings. It reminded me of a King of The Hill episode were Hank hates his son's taste in music. They go to the music store and Hank comes across a band that sounds like Gospel music and allows his son to buy it. His son was already a fan of their music. Eventually he takes his son to one of their concerts and is horrified that they are actually a boy band and the music he heard was just the intro. All the kids in the audience are dancing provacitively to the music and Hank drags his kid out of there in front of all his friends. The SouthPark episode had a similar theme. Suggesting that parents who approve of the Jonas Brothers simply because they promote "purity rings" might be missing something that their kids can see. I don't know because I know little about the group.
I am embarrassed to admit
March 20, 2009 - 23:43 ET by mostlymoderateI am embarrassed to admit that I watch South Park from time to time and usually find myself laughing. As long as South Park continues to mock the left and the right equally, I can't find myself too upset. The episode also made sport of Disney, a company I have despised since they made a leftward turn; nothing seems wholesome about that company anymore.
I think we could all use a little humor from time to time over the next four years with O'Bummer in office. Wouldn't you agree?
The result of 'not pressuring kids' is our current nightmare
March 20, 2009 - 23:45 ET by SlyrrLiberal minded people fought like (ahem) devils to ban prayer from schools. They banned the reading of scripture, prayer and all teachings of modesty, restraint and virtue from the educational system. They forbade anyone from teaching 'right and wrong' in the name of freedom from the tyranny of religious upbringing. The reasoning was that children were 'suffering' because of being repressed by such foolish things as honesty, abstinance, modesty and self-restraint.
Question: What are they aspring to that's so much better?
They pretty much got their wish - and now an entire generation of children have been raised without restraint or decency - and we see the poisonous results. Worse still, the next generation after them is now uprising, with even less restraint and a growing anger and hostility towards religion and virtue.
They're simply doing what they've been taught to do by people who thought that religion was a form of spiritual slavery.
Look at the world you've created - are you free?
South Park is without a
March 20, 2009 - 23:53 ET by KevroySouth Park is without a doubt, the funniest show on television. It's meant for adults. It's timely and relevant. It's tasteless, offensive and thought provoking. It pokes fun at every group, nobody is safe from their satire.
I'm a die hard conservative and love the show. Some episodes are better than others but it always makes me laugh. It makes my wife cringe and she just doesnt get it. I applaud it.
I agree. I'm not a
March 21, 2009 - 00:02 ET by mostlymoderateI agree. I'm not a hardcore Christian or anything like that, but I can't help but wonder if this is all a repeat of Sodom & Gomorrah. Really, how much more immoral can society get before something gives? For some reason, since the 1960's, liberals have attacked anything decent.
Sly... Great post....at
March 20, 2009 - 23:55 ET by bigtimerSly...
Great post....at least for me it was.
Thank you.
Question
March 21, 2009 - 00:09 ET by MANstreammediaHow does your post have anything to do with this thread?
Great Post Slyrr
March 21, 2009 - 07:12 ET by kilrodGreat post Slyrr and Thanks for speaking up.
kilrod
Remember, only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier
Also Brent
March 21, 2009 - 00:16 ET by MANstreammediaThis show is NOT for children. Although you do not say it explicitly, and I hope I am completely in the wrong here, but you seem like you want this show off the air. I know this site and the conservative blogosphere (and myself) are completely against violation of the first amendment (e.g. the reinstatement of the fairness doctrine, etc), but with those beliefs, wanting this show off the air is silly. I think you'll be glad its here when it's the only comedy show that will ever actually make fun of Obama.
manstreammedia
March 21, 2009 - 00:19 ET by shawn228Very sad that there are so many conservatives that want freedom from a nanny state, but want to act like nannys on telling us what we want to watch on tv.
He had my vote
Especially the gentleman in
March 21, 2009 - 00:59 ET by MANstreammediaEspecially the gentleman in this thread that keeps accusing people that enjoy clever satire of enjoying something that is both undeniably immoral and illegal. I really love the characters that lash out at a fellow conservative that believes he or she should have personal, financial, etc freedom while he or she judges me for my beliefs. I'm glad that a certain person in this thread has the right to incorrectly insult us, but I disagree with him and find his statements unintelligent.
"I hate conservatives, but
March 21, 2009 - 00:19 ET by Apache"I hate conservatives, but I really f***ing hate liberals" - Matt Stone, South Park co-creator.
Matt Stone is a registered Republican. Trey Parker, the other co-creator, is registered Libertarian.
You read the original South Park Republicans article link!
March 21, 2009 - 15:29 ET by JWFI is so proud.
I couldn't figure out what
March 21, 2009 - 21:14 ET by ApacheI couldn't figure out what you were talking about at first. If I am reading the time stamp correctly, I posted first. I've been a fan of South Park since the first episode aired. I remember G. Gordon Liddy talking about "South Park republicans" on his radio show and laughing as he read some of the plot lines. I did need to google the quote to make sure I had it right. So there are a few South Park historians here.
My Mistake.
March 22, 2009 - 09:01 ET by JWFSorry. The quote was in the article I linked. I did not notice your timestamp.
I is still proud we have so many South Park historians.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
I also have to disagree.
March 21, 2009 - 00:42 ET by TIRMI also have to disagree. SP is one of the few shows that actually plays it down the middle. They point out the hypocrisy of both sides and I think that is a good thing. As bad as the left is right now, I don't think I would want an equally bad right. If anything they mostly play against most of the most idiotic liberal points of view. They do also play against religious views as well, but I don't think they are as viroulent as those on the left. One of the best episodes was showing the hypocrisy of being able to mock Christians while not being able to mock Muslims (The Family Guy episode with the manatee's).
Brent must be a real gas at
March 21, 2009 - 00:42 ET by balboaBrent must be a real gas at parties. Has he ever laughed at anything racier than the knock-knock joke about bananas and oranges, and orange you glad I didn't say banana?
But even that's probably too suggestive...
I am just curious...why do
March 21, 2009 - 12:42 ET by msh1973I am just curious...why do you think it is necessary to make fun of someone who has a conservative, clean sense of humor? Not everyone in this Country thinks bathroom humor is funny. No one here is condemning your lack of taste. Whatever floats your boat.
...and by the way Mr. Bozell is one of the founders of this type of website, I guess he can have any opinion he wants and voice it as well.
I'm criticizing him. And
March 21, 2009 - 19:43 ET by balboaI'm criticizing him. And EVERYONE here condemns the "lack of taste" of anyone left of Newt. (Couple of exceptions exist.)
Am I not allowed to criticize his pronouncement on South Park?
Well, you weren't
March 22, 2009 - 09:28 ET by msh1973Well, you weren't "criticizing" him you were making fun of him, saying he must be a "real gas at parties". I go to parties and not one of my friends tell dirty jokes or make fun of anyone. I guess I fall in the category of "old fart". Whatever dude!
Good Article Brent
March 21, 2009 - 00:43 ET by Daniel BakerI'm glad someones standing up for our culture
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Google and Apple officially fought traditional marriage: . Please Boycott them. A Boycott changed McDonald's mind.
I think that Brent took that
March 21, 2009 - 01:25 ET by MrSnugglesI think that Brent took that episode the entirely wrong way. It was not mocking the Jonas Brothers for wearing their rings, it was mocking the fact that Disney is supposed to be this kid friendly company that sells lolipops and rainbows, but in reality Disney is just like MTV in that it is constantly selling sex to children.
Wow Brent - Seriously?!?!?!
March 21, 2009 - 01:28 ET by ImAllRightYou have this incredible platform of which to speak from and you choose to go after South Park?
What a waste.
I actually won't be surprised to see you on an upcoming episode much in the way they included Bill Donohue a couple of seasons back.
Stick to going after the alphabet networks and the lefty blogs as I doubt you've ever seen an entire South Park episode anyway.
Big swing and an even bigger miss on this one.
"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the Marines don't have that problem." - If you don't know who said that, then you have serious issues.
I'm going to (attempt to)
March 21, 2009 - 01:35 ET by MANstreammediaI'm going to (attempt to) let it rest, but you sir have stated what I was (poorly) attempting to say...
"Stick to going after the alphabet networks and the lefty blogs"
Southpark is likely beneficial, at worst neutral, to the conservative cause. This dedicated, yet misguided anger could and should be directed towards actual important issues currently facing our nation.
Brent, you sound like you
March 21, 2009 - 01:38 ET by bazzarworldBrent, you sound like you have a stick up your ass like a cranky old man. Enough with the 'get off my lawn' rhetoric, not everyone is into Matlock reruns.
South Park kicks ass, learn to handle SATIRE. You are the very people that South Park makes fun of, and is very successful at. Way to feed the fire.
Sorry folks
March 21, 2009 - 05:58 ET by RowaneBut this time I gotta disagree.
I've been watching SP since i was sent the "christmas card" in e-mail in the nineties, and yes, it is loaded with sick humor and irreverance. However, Comedy Central at least puts it in the later time-slots and directly gives warning at the start of the show.
Unlike most shows today, at least the "good" guys win in the end.
I also, have been watching
March 21, 2009 - 09:36 ET by jgarciaI also, have been watching for a long time.... so long in fact that when the song "Kyle's Mom is a big f#t B%tch" was popular in an email attachment (dial up days), my inbox got flooded by “friends”, since my son's name is Kyle! It was funny……
like you said SP does come with ton of warnings and unlike prime time TV, its a paid cable show; again it comes down to parenting and what you choose to watch... =)
I'm With Brent
March 21, 2009 - 06:58 ET by kilrodI'm with Brent and Daniel Baker. If this show is crude, rude and vulgar,(which it apparently is) it has no place in public. To say it is for "adults" is a sad comment on adulthood. If you defend this type of programming i would assume you also defend porn such as playboy etc. etc. If so, i would say grow up and man up. And no i'm not gonna waste a lot of cyberspace defending what i just said, it is my opinion, how you react to it matters more to you than it does to me.
kilrod
Remember, only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier
We shall react calmly sir.
March 21, 2009 - 07:33 ET by JWFDone fully manned up sir.
It is not in public. It is on a cable channel which must be paid for.
Plus I like all teh pretty pictures in teh Playboy.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
But Derka Derka.... Team
March 21, 2009 - 07:44 ET by Jack BauerBut Derka Derka.... Team America: World Police is still the funniest marionette movie ever made. Take that Arec Aldyin.
Agree Jack
March 21, 2009 - 09:50 ET by nofateThe first time I ever saw it was late at night, flipping sat channels. I stopped to watch because Brent's friend Rush had recommended it, even has it on his list of books and CD's on his website. Like SP, it is NOT for children, probably even less so due to some marionette sexual situations. But it is satirical and hilarious.
"The future is not set. There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."
michaelyon-online.com
nofate -- sure, it's not
March 21, 2009 - 14:17 ET by Jack Bauernofate -- sure, it's not for everyone. Like kids.
But plenty of conservatives think it's hilarious.
Isn't it sickening...I feel
March 21, 2009 - 07:57 ET by msh1973Isn't it sickening...I feel sorry for the folks at Comedy Central, they are completely lost and they don't even know it.
My 14 year daughter loves Nick Jonas and I couldn't be more pleased.
Freedom of Choice
March 21, 2009 - 09:26 ET by jgarciaOkay, sorry Brent……… I have to defend SP. When I watch South Park, I know what I am watching, some shows are funnier than others. SP consistency of bashing both sides of an issue has been pretty even over the years. I do believe they got into it with Comedy Central (2005?) about the Tom Cruise’s made up religion not showing? Yes/No?
As a parent, I also do not let my children under 18 watch it…… it all comes down to parenting and turning off/blocking the TV shows! We cannot start PCing everything to death….. comes down to personal choice! Agree/Disagree…….. I don’t want my freedoms of choice to go away! And if we can’t laugh at ourselves, I feel we lose a bit of ourselves in the process…….
I also love Blazing Saddles, if that gives anyone a clue on my humor! Doesn't make me any less of a conservative thinker!
My borrowed tag line………"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO what a ride!"
Watch out jgarcia
March 21, 2009 - 09:34 ET by shawn228Its only a matter of time when someone says...but but but what about pediphilia? Would you allow that to be shown on tv? Would you allow your children to watch pornography?
Very silly arguments as far as I am concerned, because that is not legal. but almost always someone says that.
He had my vote
Don’t worry…… I have
March 21, 2009 - 09:48 ET by jgarciaDon’t worry…… I have a liberal Mother that I have been dealing with for 40 plus years!
I have two girls and one boy…….. the boy is 20 and a Marine (very proud of him)….. all I heard while he was growing up was, my friends saw it, why can’t I …… guess what he survived and yes, he now watches SP, the best part, he is old enough to understand the sense of humor! My daughter’s (2 and 4) will get the same treatment! As for those who use child porn to promote their agenda, yes it very serious issue that needs to be address by itself, not to promote something else….. And for those who use this tactic can get off their soap box, go down to their local law enforcement and ask how they can personally help prevent it!
This is what I like to
March 21, 2009 - 12:29 ET by MANstreammediaThis is what I like to hear. Thank you for surviving early liberal influence and for being a great example for the rest of us by actually raising your children.
All I need to know is...
March 21, 2009 - 09:40 ET by gregfahey"Because Christians are retarded. They believe in a talking dead guy."
That's enough for me. My Savior is not dead but alive! He is risen. That not only this show but, this channel chooses to mock my Faith and my God is enough for me.
I know of some Christians who watch this show. I can't believe it myself. I for one don't want to answer to the Lord God for watching a show that mocks Him.
I will never watch anything on the entire Comedy Central channel. They made their choice? Fine.
So have I.
Liberals have a horrible
March 21, 2009 - 09:56 ET by MANstreammediaLiberals have a horrible problem with taking quotes out of context; we shouldn't do the same. The bad guy of the episode made that comment. I hate that discussions like this make me think that liberals aren't the only ones that want to control the population. All of the angry folks in this thread should be glad that this show has helped many young people survive the liberal propaganda of undergraduate university (my friends and I turned off the TV when the daily show aired afterwards).
I thought the conservative opinion would be "I won't watch this or let my children watch this" rather than "this is awful and shouldn't be on TV." I hate throwing out the word "hippocrite," but... I'm 100% in favor of religion and the right to practice it, but I'm also 100% against knee jerk "feeling reactions" that I typically associate wtih that other political idealogy.
I am behind you on
March 21, 2009 - 10:03 ET by jgarciaI am behind you on this....... If we start PCing what we personally don't like.... then I guess you support the Fairness Doc....... again, it comes down to choices and I don't want my choices limited regardless if I agree or disagree....Best weapon we have is the on/off switch!
MAN & jgar
March 21, 2009 - 10:47 ET by nofatePC=Cultural Marxism=Multiculturalism
As JWF said earlier in this thread, "Liberals, like Terminators, can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity or remorse. And like Terminators, they will not stop until we are dead. They operate on pure emotion. There is only one thing that can stop a liberal, vicious sarcastic mocking."
I'm with you guys. Censoring speech is a trap. What's next, Rush, NewsBusters, Christians? The islamists would go for the last.
"The future is not set. There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."
michaelyon-online.com
Dude, you missed the point
March 21, 2009 - 10:01 ET by nofateof the show, and took one line out of context. Sort of like when (was it Barbara Boxer?) went to the floor of the senate to excoriate Rush for giving his mother a can opener as a present so she could open her dog food. If one paid attention to the context, there was no controversy. Another example, AIG. If one is paying attention to the context, there is no controversy. It is being ginned up by unscrupulous politicians at the expense of private citizens who were doing their jobs. Some of them maybe not well, but not breaking any laws at the time that I am able to tell.
Just FYI, SP has gone after Mohammed at least twice that I am aware of. At least one of those shows was deemed too controversial for Comedy Central to handle, but the shows bashing the pretentiousness of Chistianity and Mormonism were OK. Sounds like a case for NewsBusters.
"The future is not set. There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."
michaelyon-online.com
They made fun of the
March 21, 2009 - 12:03 ET by MANstreammediaThey made fun of the religion that rhymes with Shmientology. That is bravery and a love for the freedom of speech.
It was Pat Schroeder. The
March 22, 2009 - 13:50 ET by fitzfongIt was Pat Schroeder.
The point of the episode was that Disney uses the Jonas Brothers' alleged celibacy as an exploitation tool...essentially they're selling sex to tween and teen girls while pretending to promote chastity. Lighten up, Mr. Bozell.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
"They killed Brent's sense
March 21, 2009 - 10:55 ET by SickofLibs"They killed Brent's sense of humor! Those bastards!!!"
Brent Bozells humbling experience.
March 21, 2009 - 11:03 ET by shawn228Nobody destroyed Brents sense of humor, he has been like this for well over a decade.
I remember, Mr. Bozell was upset at the World Wrestling Federation now WWE for their brand of humor, which is tame compared to South Park. Brent used a few questionable tactics. As a result he had to apologize to Vince Mcmahan the President of the WWE and had to fork up some big bucks too. Probably a most humbling experience.
That is what you get when you infringe on free speech, just like the libs wanting to bring back the fairness doctrine
He had my vote
He'll be okay. He probably
March 21, 2009 - 12:05 ET by MANstreammediaHe'll be okay. He probably just saw something so funny one time that he blew his "funny fuse." When he sees something else that is really funny, it will come back again.
My boys love South Park
March 21, 2009 - 13:26 ET by Delsaand I admit to laughing outloud many times myself when my 20 year old says, "Mom you have to see this".
These are channels anyone can turn away from.
I don't understand the vitriol? Don't watch!
But how does the world escape ABC, CBS, and NBC? What about Soap Operas? Free sex all day long on all three channels.
I'd watch an adult cartoon any day! and if I don't like the episode, change the channel.
I too am left wondering WAZ up Brent?
Delsa
March 21, 2009 - 17:08 ET by nofate"But how does the world escape ABC, CBS, and NBC? What about Soap Operas? Free sex all day long on all three channels."
I couldn't agree more. I don't watch soaps, but every time I have been at a friend's who watches or been held captive in some waiting room with a soap on, I am amazed at the right up to the line brazen sexuality of these out in the daylight shows. And it has gotten really bad in the evening for years, as a previous commenter said, with characters talking brazenly about their sexual experiences with absolutely no consequences, emotional or physical that can't be glossed over in a half hour- Friends or Two and a Half Men the most glaring examples that come to mind at the moment. Two and a Half Men even uses a 12 year old boy as a foil for their comedy. Really not evening fare, but reruns of stuff like this goes on in the afternoons in some markets.
It is up to parents and the judicious use of the on/off button.
"The future is not set. There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."
michaelyon-online.com
A Few Points About This Episode
March 21, 2009 - 14:02 ET by ScoopPC111) The show is on at 10 p.m. If your kids are up that late watching the show, what kind of parenting is that?
2) "South Park" has always made it a habit of making a point using surreal humor and profanity. This is nothing new.
3) The show made a point -- selling sex to kids in the guise of family entertainment is wrong. Have you seen the poster for the 3D Concert they filmed? Just like they highlighted in the episode, you have the Jonas Brothers on stage, and you have the hands of young girls reaching up to them as they sing. One of the hands looks like it's awful close to their crotch area.
4) I don't think the purity rings are a gimmick for the Jonas Brothers, but using them as a gimmick to make a profit is wrong.
5) I would think the end of the episode would make a bigger point that it's better to wait. Throughout the episode, Kenny's buddies are telling him that he's too young for sex and he should wait. They feel better after he starts to wear the purity ring. But after the situation is corrected and everything is back to "normal," he dies from his actions.
Boom!
March 21, 2009 - 15:52 ET by JWFHe got it. Trey and Matt is so proud.
Number 1 with a bullet!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093658/
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.