The AP Channels the Democrats in the Limbaugh-Kennedy ‘Scandal’

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***TWO UPDATES, including the response from AP's Ron Fournier, at the end of this post.***

Friday evening the Associated Press (AP) issued an un-bylined story which was nothing more than a stenographic reprint of the latest dishonest Democratic attack on talk radio host Rush Limbaugh. 

The Friday story apparently reflected zero research into the charge levied by Brian Wolff, executive director of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC).  The AP merely quoted Rush out of context - just as the DCCC had - and then served him up as a piñata for Wolff to pummel.

The AP cites Rush as having said that Congress's current push for socialist health care will "(b)efore it's all over ... be called the Ted Kennedy Memorial Health Care bill." This allowed the AP to serve up Wolff's whacks on Limbaugh; Wolff called Limbaugh's remark "outrageous and reprehensible."

Had the AP done ANY journalistic due diligence, they would have found this January 13 story from Fox News, quoting a spokeswoman for one of the architects of a national health care bill who said that any legislation that emerges would be named after Kennedy. 

More from the Fox story:

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"'He wouldn't name it for himself, but the majority of the body working on the legislation would say he's devoted his life to it,' said Jude McCartin, a spokeswoman for Sen. Jeff Bingaman, D-N.M., a member of Kennedy's committee. ‘Now that we're on the verge of doing something major, the naming of the legislation should reflect his longstanding involvement.'"

So Rush was merely quoting a Democrat, and was then vilified by the DCCC - via the AP - for doing so. 

Where's the research, AP?  Where are your journalistic standards?  Ron Fournier, the AP Washington Bureau Chief, needs to be doing much better than this.

One expects below-the-belt punches from leftists like Brian Wolff - their dishonest attacks are becoming legendary - but from a venerable news institution like AP?

This is nothing more than Phony Soldiers, Part II.  In October 2007, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid led a cabal of liberal Senators in a completely fraudulent attack against Rush fashioned in just the same way - deceitfully taking his words out of context and trumping up a subsequent smear campaign.  The left is at it again. 

When will the press stop parroting these liberal attacks, and instead start exposing these vicious and utterly false accusations against Rush?

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UPDATE: This afternoon I sent an open letter to Ron Fournier, AP's Washington Bureau Chief. I asked for a corrected update to their incorrect story, one that includes his asking the DCCC spin doctor Brian Wolff if he plans on criticizing fellow Democrats for suggesting back in January that they name health legislation after Kennedy.

UPDATE 2: The full text of his response, which AP called to insist be put on the record:

Saying that a bill should be named after Sen. Kennedy is different from saying the bill will be named after the late Sen. Kennedy. (As Rush Limbaugh put it, "Before it’s over, it’ll be called the Ted Kennedy Memorial Health Care Bill.")

 


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The "levee to nowhere." Mary Jo Kopechne

If Mary Jo Kopechne were alive today, surely she'd want it named after the man who killed her. Right?

The "levee to nowhere."  In honor of Mary Jo Kopechne - a life lost, and no lessons learned.

(;~/ gary

As I noted in another

As I noted in another thread, Charles Pierce of the Boston Globe actually won a Media Dishonors Award (might have even been "Quote of the Year" for the saying the following about Kennedy:

If she had lived, Mary Jo Kopechne would be 62 years old. Through his
tireless work as a legislator, Edward Kennedy would have brought
comfort to her in her old age.

That masterpiece of a complete lack of both taste and class is OK, though.  

So it's OK to use a dead woman (that he was responsible for) as long as she's used to heap praise on Teddy?

What the?????

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson

I think the big deal here

I think the big deal here is that Rush used the word "Memorial."

They view it as having decided that Kennedy would be dead by the time the bill is completed.

We now have a new "D" word  and a new "M" word, neither of which anyone is allowed to say. 

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson

MB, I agree, but when is it o.k. to use Memorial?

Robert C. Byrd Memorial Expressway

Robert C. Byrd Memorial Bridge

Robert C. Byrd Memorial Cemetary

and there are many, many more. Sheets didn't die recently, did he? I realize it may be hard to tell, but I haven't seen anything about it on the news.

 

All a Democrat needs is the upper-story window of public attention and the chamber pot of rhetoric. How else to explain the rise of Joe Biden?  P.J. O' Rourke

And if the word Memorial is so offensive, why is it

used in such places as the William Jefferson Clinton Memorial Library? It doesn't necessarily mean someone who has passed. 

 

All a Democrat needs is the upper-story window of public attention and the chamber pot of rhetoric. How else to explain the rise of Joe Biden?  P.J. O' Rourke

You are missing the whole

You are missing the whole point.....

When Liberals use "Memorial" about one of their own, it's an honorific; when Rush uses it in regard to Kennedy, they see it as the equivalent of yelling "Ted Kennedy has one foot in the grave!!"

Wasn't the brouhaha about the claim that Rush saying that was basically wishing Ted Kennedy dead?

We're talking about the way they see it when Rush says it; we're not using actual facts and logic.

Really, that shouldn't need explaining.... ;-)

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson

So that’s what “Politically Correct” means!

When Liberals use <a certain term> it’s OK, but when a conservative uses the same term it’s derogative.

So that’s what “Politically Correct” means!

Who says liberals are not elitist?

Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.

This is just not true.

Its factually incorrect.

Its called the Robert C Byrd Expressway - NOT Memorial Expressway.

http://en.wikipedia....

Its call the Veterans Memorial Bridge  - NOT The Rober C Byrd Memorial bridge.

http://en.wikipedia....

There is no result for Robert C. Byrd Memorial Cemetery. Perhaps you can link it on mapquest or something? I'm guessing it doesn't exist. Know why?  Memorials are for the dead. 

Can't believe this has to be proven.

 

 

You're irrational if you don't want the new president to succeed - Gingrich

 

Gee

" Memorials are for the dead." 

I guess you'll have to ask Hillary about Bill.Thought he was alive.

http://www.clintonmemoriallibrary.com/

I guess Backwards Shawn won't be replying

To any of the "Memorial" threads anymore, eh?

Good one, well99. 

Thats a web site name

The library name is "William Clinton Library." The web site name is to reserve it so they don't have tobbuy it after Clinton DIES.

 What do I get from all this BS surrounding memorials.The 200 dittoheads on here don't know memorials are named after deceased people? No, I don't believe that. The 200 dittoheads here will look an error in the face and not say a word if it damages another dittohead. I'll go with that one.  I guess honesty and integrity isn't incorporated into dittoism. Yay for you.

 

You're irrational if you don't want the new president to succeed - Gingrich

 

What do those crazy Brits

What do those crazy Brits know.  Especially one named Rupert Cornwell.  ;-)

Jer

Actually, from reading the article I'm not so sure "memorial" is part of the official name.  That said, I don't know what possessed them to include the word in the headline.

Jer

Well it was on 3 sites so I went with it.There were more links but didnt want to go overboard.Oh for picking on the Brits your History International channel will be suspended.

Of all the dittoheads on here

 Not one, not a single dittohead will correct you? You don't find that slightly odd?

Here you go.

http://en.wikipedia....

You're irrational if you don't want the new president to succeed - Gingrich

 

nwahs

Wow you use wiki.Ooohhh.Here is a news flash there are exceptions to rules.Happens all the time.

Not this rule

 Call your momma, call your daddy, call your pawpaw, your grandma, your kids, a few neighbors, the library - hell CALL RUSH! Memorials are for dead people - no exception.

You're irrational if you don't want the new president to succeed - Gingrich

 

nwhine

Actually my parents are dead .Those pages on the link had

William Clinton Memorial Library.What part of that didnt you understand. Now why dont you quit crying.You getting your panties in a twist because your wrong.

Brain still constipated

Brain still constipated eh nwahs?

Jesus Loves You

I like the last link :)

 They probably did the same thing the first poster did, google the clinton library and saw the memorial site come up.  The name of the  library right now, if you go to either site, is the William Clinton Library. I'm sure they took out the Memorial site to prevent name squatting. This is no huge revelation. Memorials are for deceased people. Is this the first time you've heard that?

You're irrational if you don't want the new president to succeed - Gingrich

 

Kennedy

MB, I don't think the use of the word memorial had anything to do with it, it's just the tripe of being the "victim" of anything that Rush says. Face it, all this crap is just about baiting and name calling and playing the victim to the press. Total bull****.  

What's really pathetic is the idea that the oval office might have orchestrated it.  Can't fix the issues except by adding more garbage to the heap we call debt but we can sure take the time to respond to the indignation they feel over anything Rush says.   

 

 

Obama lied; the economy died.

                        Tony Blankley

switching over

Please be patient with us democrats as we switch from blaming everything on Bush to Rush. Its really only a small change... removing the cross stroke at the bottom of the first letter. We're doing this because nobody gets mad anymore when we blame it on Bush, so Rush is our new target.

Liberals - Encouraging and funding the extermination of inner city babies since 1973

The Asinine Press once more lives down to its name...

Sigh!

Accelerating ignorance

Reporters spread information and misinformation by the same machinery. It's in the nature of reporting. A reporter tries to take events and wrap them up into a story, which the publisher distributes to the public. If the story is accurate, the story informs. If the story is wrong, the system accelerates ignorance.

How many of the reporters who are spreading this story were listening to Rush Limbaugh when he made the comment? More than likely, the vast majority of the reporters heard it from someone else first, who were passing it on because they thought it was significant. Who would think that Limbaugh's comment was significant? Answer: people who were offended by it. (Most of us who don't hate Limbaugh thought little of it, and it wouldn't have occurred to us to pass it on.)

So, reporters heard the comment from people who were offended by it, which instantly colored the story against Limbaugh. But then again, why would those first people report it to the second? Because they thought the second group would also be offended by it also.

The people who accelerated this comment and its negative interpretation were all links in a chain - a liberal media chain.

Worshiping The Kennedys

Wow, Rush did it again. Now let me get this outrageous remark straight before I go off half cocked. Is the 'Kennedy' that we are referring to, with worshipful admiration, the same one that was responsible for the death of a young woman and never paid for his crime, but still when on to legislate laws to abuse us by? Is it that Kennedy? I wouldn't want to speak out of school you know.

It's all dirty politics so we may as well dress for it.

"If Mary Jo Kopechne were

"If Mary Jo Kopechne were alive today, surely she'd want it named after the man who killed her. Right?"

 Kind of  hard to make sense of your wording, (If she were "alive," she wouldn't be thinking about the man who "killed" her!) but good point.

Oh my heart!

Oh my heart, my heart! This constant laughing is killing me. Everytime the national media attack Rush, it bites them in the butt.  And the news services are the gang that can't shoot straight!

But the good news is that most newspapers are too poor now to subscribe to the wire services, which are near to failure themselves. Has anyone looked at what AP, UPI or Reuters stock is worth these days?

This is getting tiresome

This is getting tiresome quickly.

NOTE to Obamaiacs:  Rush is a private, taxpaying citizen.  As such, he is covered by any dadgummed amendment he cares to use, anytime he cares to use it, in the United States of America.

Furthermore you microcephlic media,  Rush was parroting everything which had already been said by many democrats in the house and senate. As Conservatives, we are not going to do your job for you. 

If you are too lazy to even use a search engine to find the exact quotes that Rush used, you need to get in line with everyone else looking for work. You are making yourselves look like even bigger fools than you normally are.

Liberal Losers

Has anyone else noticed how these liberal losers all attack Rush but never point out the major flaws of their idols. This blog mentions Dingy Harry and the phoney soldier attacks on Rush. Let me know if you have heard a single comment from these clowns about the $4,000,000 plus Rush donated to the families of fallen Marines and police officers derived from Dingy Harry's Senatorial attack letter. What has any liberal ever done that was good for someone other than themselves?

bkn... Shhh...why don't

bkn...

Shhh...why don't you know that is a big, big secret...at least it is when it comes to the enemy within...the deaf, dumb and blind when it suits their agenda with their biased hypocrisy.

It is never-ending...big mistake they made though...they took on the wrong man.

bt - Indeed they did take on the 'wrong man' and he'll whup

their behinds with half his brain tied behind his back ;-)  They just can't seem to learn - more fun for Rush!

It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue. ~ Sam Adams

bknownst, Not only do

bknownst,

Not only do they attack Rush. They only attack Rush the messenger, but they never attack his message.

In all the things that I have read that the media has attacks Rush on, that Matthews and the rest of Obama's butt-boys have said about Rush is about Rush's big ego, big persona, how he dresses, that he is fat.

You never hear Liberals attack Rush Limbaugh's Conservative message. They grab on to a sentence or two and they play that over and over again.

It is a very old socialist and actually very Clintonesque thing to do. Destroy the messenger, even if his message is correct. No one will listen to a person who supposedly has no character.

Look how the Obama administration has not dare attack Rush's Conservative message. instead they grabbed unto to the alleged, "Rush wants Obama to fail!" lie in order to destroy his character.

Do you know why they do this? because they know that every time Conservatives win the debate on ideas. Liberals can only win if they destroy the character of Conservatives.

Mr. Bozell... You ask

Mr. Bozell...

You ask when will the press stop parroting these liberal attacks, and instead start exposing these vicious and utterly false accusations against Rush...

The 12th of Never is when they will stop.

bt - my first thought, too ;-) The 12th of NEVER!!!!

Can you believe the msm still can't figure out that we 'frankly don't give a damn' what they write or say!! 

It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue. ~ Sam Adams

CC... What infuriates me

CC...

What infuriates me is they know darn good and well why their sales are going belly-up, or in the msm case in point networks like msnbc ratings are lousy....

They are biased, they know it...but dang it all the refuse to admit it...after-all, they have an agenda 24/7...come hell or high water.

Even if they drown under that water...they keep on ticking with the same biased bullshite.

Guess they are going to be waiting in line for a bail-out too as they go under.

I think Rush tried to say it in a bombastic way

 I think Rush tried to say it in a bombastic way. If Rush wanted to say it will probably be named after Kennedy, he would have said it probably will be named after Kennedy. Putting a person into the dead category before they are dead is in poor taste, and that was exactly the intention of the remark. I wonder how Jay Nordlinger would defend that remark or spin it into good taste?

You're irrational if you don't want the new president to succeed - Gingrich

 

~Leaving a woman to drown

Is in poor taste.

 

Hope and Change= Despair and Socialism

Oh so Rush is avenging Chappaquiddick?

Do you think the Republican party might find a person with no skeletons in their closet to avenge Chappaquiddick? And can we do this quickly. I would really hate to see "avenging Chappaquiddick" on the party's platform in 2010.

You're irrational if you don't want the new president to succeed - Gingrich

 

~The avenging will occur shortly after

Dirtball gasps his last.

As for Rush, I've only caught his show a few times; I can't speak for his views or purposes. I am pretty sure he's never driven into the water and left a woman to drown in his car while he swam away to Mommy and Daddy. You really can't compare his skeletons to Rush's.

And that's all I have to say abowt thayat. *she said Gumpily*

Hope and Change= Despair and Socialism

I doubt if "Daddy" was much

I doubt if "Daddy" was much help in this case, since Daddy was completely disabled from a massive stroke suffered years earlier.  He was dead within four months of Chappaquiddick.

Jer

It took four months

It took four months to die from the shame brought on by his son?

Jesus Loves You

No Coco.  Joe lived an

No Coco. 

Joe lived an extra four months from the pride he felt now that Teddyboy had made his bones.

(/sarc off)

I do not like one bit a man, Joeseph Kennedy, who would purposefully have his daughter's brains scrambled because she, Rosemary, was an embarassment to him.

strat...

I do not like one bit a man, Joeseph Kennedy, who would purposefully have his daughter's brains scrambled because she, Rosemary, was an embarassment to him.

That it was done for that reason was strongly suggested in the PBS special aired recently about the doctor who pioneered sub-orbital pre-frontal lobotomies.  It was a surprising revelation and I question its authenticity.  Clearly there could and should have been more benign and laudable motivations.  But I haven't attempted any further research of the issue, so I'm in no position to refute the claim.

Jer

My Opinions Only

Jer:

I believe I saw that same PBS show a while back.

Joseph Kennedy was a ruthless controlling man.  It was his way or the highway. 

Daughter Rosemary was by all reports a pleasant child who's behaviour changed sometime around/after puberty.  I think the PBS show posited a theory that Rosemary was not as bright or quick or athletic as the rest of the Kennedy's and subsequently began acting out from feeling separate and not equal.  I can see father Joe ridiculing her often and in public.  The humiliation she (and Joe) felt must have been quite burdensome. 

The final straw for Joe was when Rosemary began sneaking out at night from the convent he placed her in as a desparate attempt to get her under control.  Fearing she would become pregnant or some other shame of the day, and failing other treatments, Joe unilaterally decided Rosemary would undergo a relatively new procedure, lobotomy, to domesticate her.  

The lobotomy procedure was a blind procedure - you stuck the instrument in and wiggled it about, all without knowing precisely what all is being destroyed.  Too much wiggling and you get Rosemary.

Joe wanted Rosemary pacified so that custodial care would be simplified.  He could not have a wanton/pregnant, unruly, "slow" daughter embarrasing him.  Joe didn't want his daughter to end up so incapacitated, but she did. 

One thing that struck me as a critical insight was the entries from Rosemary's diary (or personal letters?) before the lobotomy.  Her command of the English language and use of allegory demonstrated her intellect as definitely not below average.  Maybe she was not as smart/sharp as her brothers, but she was not mentally retarded by any stretch. 

Joe had to have the counsel of physicians prior to ordering the lobotomy.  Not much could be done back then for mental retardation, mental illness, violent behaviour, etc.  The first antipsychotic Thorazine was not invented until the 1950's, and it replaced lobotomy as treatment of choice for aggressive, violent, or psychotic behaviour.  So, with physicians and scientists cooing about the results of lobotomy, and there were some desirable (for whom?) results, where else would a man at the end of his rope trying to control his daughter go?

My theory is that Joe thought her "slow" when contrasted to her siblings/family members.  This false conclusion combined with her behavioural issues led to the controlling Joe's shame and desperation, resulting in the disasterously botched lobotomy of daughter Rosemary.

strat...

Just noticed your response and only have a moment, but...

The final straw for Joe was when Rosemary began sneaking out at night from the convent he placed her in as a desparate attempt to get her under control.  Fearing she would become pregnant or some other shame of the day, and failing other treatments, Joe unilaterally decided Rosemary would undergo a relatively new procedure, lobotomy, to domesticate her.  

This was precisely--virtually verbatim--the theory posited(?)... the fact revealed (?) during the PBS documentary.  Very troubling.  The doctor [Johnson?] was an evil genius.  He was wielding the "surgical instruments"--a term of art--(more like hammers and ice picks) with the speed, but not quite the dexterity, of a Kobe Steak House chef.  Patients were literally lined up for the procedure, and if he happened to kill one in the process, the unfortunate soul was hastily wheeled out, and the good doctor barely missed a beat, hammering ice picks up through the eyeballs and into the brain of the next "victim". 

I actually had to avert my gaze during parts of the telecast.  Too squeamish I guess.  Would never make it in an operating room unless unconscious.

Jer

Modern Day

( The doctor [Johnson?] was an evil genius. He was wielding the "surgical instruments"--a term of art--(more like hammers and ice picks) with the speed, but not quite the dexterity, of a Kobe Steak House chef. Patients were literally lined up for the procedure, and if he happened to kill one in the process, the unfortunate soul was hastily wheeled out, and the good doctor barely missed a beat, hammering ice picks up through the eyeballs and into the brain of the next "victim". )

Sounds like your modern day abortionist or stem cell researcher.

   kilrod

Remember, only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier

Jer: I saw the PBS show a

Jer:

I saw the PBS show a few years ago, I believe.  The written words of Rosemary pre-lobotomy were so well formed that the theory posited by PBS seemed quite plausible.

Like any other human being, Joe Kennedy had his good and bad points.  I think his demons won out and he ordered his daughter lobotomized.

Lobotomy was an accepted procedure during that time.  There was a belief that lobotomy was the last best hope to "cure" or passify those suffering patients unhelped by traditional treatments.  I don't know if the surgeon Watts was "evil" or a genius.  Maybe more a detached egoist looking to make his mark on the world with a procedure he truly felt was useful and appropriate. 

Watts ended up dissolving his relationship with neurologist and psychiatrist Freeman, after he found out Freeman was performing lobotomies on his own (Watts thought only surgeons should do the procedure).  Eventually Watts became Chief of Neurosurgery, so he must have been talented and maybe a bit good persuading people. 

Freeman seemed the obsessed one, continuing to push the procedure even after it had fallen out of favor and/or discredited, traveling around the country in his "lobotomobile" performing demonstrations and visiting former patients.

BTW, I too would not care to watch or perform a lobotomy, so don't feel too bad about squeamishness.  I never saw electroconvulsive therapy either, but I've had patients that received it.  ECT is still an accepted and useful treatment for severe depression.  The Mayo Clinic has info and a video for laypeople.

Looking at how we treat illness and disease in the context of what was done in the past, I reflect from time to time that even as advanced as we are today, that we are still rather crude in our knowledge and barbaric in treatments. 

As silly as this may seem, I believe we can advance to Star Trek-like medicine one day.  In the meantime, just be grateful physicians no longer bleed you to rid you of bad humours (except if you have hemachromatosis, polycythemia vera orporphyria cutanea tarda), or use leeches and maggots anymore (except they are still used too!). 

Like I said, this is just my opinion.  I have no firsthand knowledge.

Appreciate the info, strat.

Appreciate the info, strat.  Very interesting and entertaining, as are your posts generally.  [I don't know where I came up with the name "Johnson".  Not even close, and it wasn't that long ago I watched the program.]

By the way, doc, what would you recommend for my "bad humours"?

Jer

Jer: Didn't you know us

Jer:

Didn't you know us Yankees get the PBS before you Southerners???

Growing up in the 70's, who didn't hear about Doc Johnson "products".  I remember Johnny Carson talking about "him".

That reminds me, a friend's father had a client that owned one of the largest "products" stores in LA.  I believe the store, like my friend's father, is gone now.  Don't miss the store (never visited) but I do miss my friend's father. 

 "...what would you recommend for my "bad humours"?"

Do you have any vices?  If not, find one!  ;-)

strat...Excellent!

Do you have any vices?  If not, find one! 

Excellent!  I'll just tell the judge and my minister I was acting on doctor's orders.

Jer

Maybe this prescription

Maybe this prescription will work better for you:

Nap i pc prn & ad lib

Refills: ∞

DAW

Signature:  Stratman, MD

If this doesn't work then I'm referring you to a specialist! 

§ Shawn...What makes Teddy so Special???

He is the only member of Congress that got away with MANSLAUGHTER because of his DADDY!!!

<waits for Shawn's "Outrage"...>

Ster.

My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.

nw.... I'm not going to

nw....

I'm not going to go 'round and 'round with you and your obession about Rush today...

I just wanted to tell you I like your new tag-line. I haven't been able to stand Gingrich for years and years now and have posted as such here over time along with my various reasons...so if you think you are bothering all of us with that line...you aren't. ;-)

Thank you

 No obsession.

But the topic is about what Rush said on Kennedy.If I discussed water skiing I'd be off topic.

Of course you hate Gingrich. He's unclean - he's an outsider, a threat.

You're irrational if you don't want the new president to succeed - Gingrich

 

nw... I'm starting to

nw...

I'm starting to wonder if you are insane.

What do you mean by unclean? HUH?!

He's not an outsider...never has been, for me he has been part of the problems with the picks/support/backing for centrists, moderates, RINOs whatever you want to call them, and he has done so over the years in the past....along with his BS about global warming and such..I'm not going into it all. 

A threat...he's no threat anymore...he wishes he was though.

And what type of insanity would that be?

 Individualism?

I think dittoheads have cultist qualities about them and will attack and destroy ( or try to) anyone who differs with their doctrine. Make no mistake, I don't believe they are a bona fide cult, trying to seduce new membership. But I think they use cult tactics with threats of scarlet letters to keep people in line. Its not normal to have 200 people discuss something and there is no dissent. Its absolutely weird.

Even though Gingrich lead the contract with America in 1994, he is now "suspect"  or not a "conservative as defined by [Rush]." Oh he's a threat. He's one of those factions Rush warned about in his CPAC speech. Anyway, there is ONE dissenting view in this topic right now. And the name calling has started.

But I expect it.

You're irrational if you don't want the new president to succeed - Gingrich

 

 "I think dittoheads have

 "I think dittoheads have cultist qualities about them and will attack
and destroy ( or try to) anyone who differs with their doctrine."

Bzzzzt....wrong.....you don't think at all.

 

"Libs never let you down. You don't have to talk to one very long before the stupid comes out."

Good evening nwahs

You would take offense at any atatement by Rush.

 Would Uncle Teddy have saved Mary Jo if she had health insurance?

You are the only one that ever mentions hate.

Jesus Loves You

nwah, were you one of. . .

the 51% of Dems who wanted Bush to fail?

btw, Rush was very clear that he didn't want America to fail; he wants the person who is trying to reform the USA in the image of the Argentina and Venezuela to fail.  In other words, he wants the person who is sabotaging America to fail.

You're irrational if you

You're irrational if you don't want the new president to succeed - Gingrich

Except Gingrich also said the same damn thing that Rush said - that he wants Obama's policies to fail, since they will hurt the country more than help it. Only an idiot would support policies that were detrimental to the success of the country.

Do Rush and all conservatives want Obama to succeed? Of course, but we're intelligent enough to know that he won't become a conservative for that to happen.

Nice try, nwahs. Save your lies for somewhere else.

“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)

I heard that clip, and he

I heard that clip, and he himself said that wanting Obama's policies to fail is OK,  (and he in fact said that himself) but only an irrational person would want the President, the country, to fail. And that's what Rush said he meant.  Of course, no explanation from a conservative is ever believed.

But Jack Murtha said explained that when he said "they killed civilians in cold blood"  what he really meant was that the Bush strategy for the war was a failure; and that was accepted at face value.

And Rush has said  that he supports the President, but not his policies.

Sound familiar?

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson

I have no doubt he meant that

I have no doubt Rush meant that.I also have no doubt Rush worded it in the most antagonistic, and hateful way possible. I have no doubt it is factually correct that more young black males die in drowning accidents than white males. But Rush said it in the most antagonistic and hateful way possible. I have no doubt many Mexicans have crossed our borders, and have been put in the back of trucks with no ventilation or water, and some actually survived the trip across the desert, but Rush said this in the most antagonistic and hateful way possible.

The only thing new about this Kennedy thing, is all the whining by Rush and his dittoheads, when he is called on it. They used to not whine so much.

 

You're irrational if you don't want the new president to succeed - Gingrich

 

nw... You are really

nw...

You are really grasping at straws now.

you want most hateful?

Here is a compilation of most hateful.

http://www.semiskimmed.net/bushhitler.html

It is a compilation of every person or group who compared Bush or the Bush Administration to Hitler. 

Nwahs, when you can successfully take the plank out of the eye of the people on your side, we will gladly take the sliver out of the eye of the people on our side.  Mmmkay?

Why do you think I agree

Why do you think I agree with the appalling names Bush was called, or the derogatory remarks made about our service men and women? Because I call Rush on using bombastic and hateful language? One does not precipitate the other. Two months or more ago I was blasting Letterman for his hateful Bush jokes, and more recently for the fact he was still doing Palin jokes and refused to do Obama jokes.I pleaded with NewsBusters to give it the same type of coverage as they were giving The View. I'll search for the posts.

I think the response was, "no one stays up that late."

I'm not an enemy of conservatism or Bush. That's dittohead mind games.

 

You're irrational if you don't want the new president to succeed - Gingrich

 

timothe...

Thanks for that link you posted.  I have always laughed at the absurdity of liberals calling Conservatives, "Nazis".  Seriously.  Hitler was a liberal, not a Conservative.  Do your homework, liberal puppets.

Thanks, again, timothe! 

 

F**K Socialism.

 

Hitler a liberal?

Hitler a liberal?  Now that's funny.  Seriously.  At least in the quintessential absurdity sense.

Jer

 

Here's my "liberal" bona fides

http://newsbusters.o...

All you have to do is track me and go back a few months ( been here for 2 years). When you get to the thread use your browser search "nwahs" and see how much of a "liberal" I am. 

The problems started when I got upset with a writer for making up a story after he was fooled by a hoaxer. In my mind its unethical.

If you don't see it by now, dissent is a long hard road here.

You're irrational if you don't want the new president to succeed - Gingrich

 

EVERY person or group comparing Bush to Hitler?

Frankly, I was surprised at the relative brevity of the list.  The only one I had the time now to check at your linked site was Soros, and it was noteworthy that the Nazi reference was not part of the excerpted statement placed in quotation marks.  To its credit, an interview of Soros was linked during which he completely debunked the Nazi/Bush comparison accusations.

If Obama were to serve eight years, I wonder how many comparisons of him to Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Marx, Castro, Chavez, Bin Laden, communist, Nazi, Hitler, terrorist, etc. will have been made by the beneficent "Right".

Jer

Spare me your self-righteous

Spare me your self-righteous bile.

Self-righteous bile?

 No, self-righteous is when slanted stories are bad for the "other" side but quite alright for you. Self-righteous is when hateful language like "Uncle Tom"and

"During another period, in the not too distant past, there was a
governor of the state of Alabama named George Wallace who also became a
presidential candidate."

are bad for the other side but hateful language like 

Limbaugh added that Hispanics have
"probably shown the most survival tactics," that they "have shown a remarkable
ability to cross borders," and that they can "do it without water for a long
time, they don't get apprehended, and they will do things other people won't
do." 

is ok for YOUR side.

Don't even infer self-righteous bile to me, dittohead. I'm waste deep in it, and its not mine.

You're irrational if you don't want the new president to succeed - Gingrich

 

Your answer proves my

Your answer proves my point.  Your obsession with Mr. Limbaugh simply provides an intoxicating distraction for you as the wheels come off the Obama Marxist Express.  Kind of early for a president to be sinking so fast, don't you think?  Poor Nwahs.  When you're done using mom's computer, go ask her for some cookies and warm milk.  I hear that helps.

When I want to get intoxicated

I drink Canadian Club, not Rush. I had no doubt Obama would sink quickly. All he was providing during the campaign were air sandwiches. It comes as no surprise he has no good ideas. I'll have to look for a post I made after his parting of the red sea speech.

You're irrational if you don't want the new president to succeed - Gingrich

 

That's it?

This guy need a teleprompter to provide a reasoned response?

Mary Jo Kopechne

had no comment on the story.

Mr. Fournier, did we miss something?

"Saying that a bill should be named after Sen. Kennedy is different from saying the bill will be named after the late Sen. Kennedy. (As Rush Limbaugh put it, "Before it’s over, it’ll be called the Ted Kennedy Memorial Health Care Bill.")" - Fournier

Mr. Fournier implies that Rush Limbaugh said the bill "should" be named after Kennedy.  He then goes on to quote Limbaugh as saying that it "will" be named after him.  Maybe Mr. Fournier should invest in a dictionary (that's a big book of words for any aspiring journalists out there).

WD - now we all know that journalists are born with

their superior knowledge (you know, like Helen Thomas was 'born' a liberal ;-) 

To lower themselves to refer to Webster's is NOT a consideration!! 

It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue. ~ Sam Adams

Brent Bozell... You have

Brent Bozell...

You have got to be kidding...that is the updated response from the AP that they insist be put on the record!?!

Talk about sit and spin...and spin...and spin.

How typical of the leftists.

This would be rip-roaring funny if it wasn't so infuriating.

That loud noise you heard...

...was the sound of a hair being split.  I wonder how long it took them to cook up that rationalization.

"Liberals have many tails, and chase them all."  H.L. Mencken

Saying that a bill should

Saying that a bill should be named after Sen. Kennedy is different
from saying the bill will be named after the late Sen. Kennedy.
[emphasis mine] (As
Rush Limbaugh put it, "Before it’s over, it’ll be called the Ted
Kennedy Memorial Health Care Bill.")
-AP response

As was mentioned in another thread, most of West Virginia is called the Robert Byrd Memorial Something or Other, and Byrd isn't dead yet.

As I said there, liberals can use the term "memorial" as an honorific, but when Rush uses it, they claim it's the equivalent of yelling "Ted Kennedy's going to die, and soon!"

And Limbaugh never said it will be named after the LATE Ted Kennedy.

This is just more of the media's putting their own spin on their own manufactured "facts."

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson

I'm trying to fact check this

 I found a few joke sites or truck stops call Robert Byrd memorial, but I can't actually find a government building or structure called that. Can you be a bit more specific, or is this not true? Memorial implies the person is dead. So if thats part of your argument, I'd like to see if its true. Can you link to something that will show a government object or structure with that name? Or is that really not true?

You're irrational if you don't want the new president to succeed - Gingrich

 

Did I say government object

Did I say government object or structure?

The discussion was about "Memorial" meaning "dead."

Ann Coulter once wrote an entire article listing all the things in WV
named after Byrd.  I'm pretty sure a few of them have "Memorial" in
them.  But I'm not going to waste an evening looking for them.

However, there is at least one "Robert C. Byrd Memorial Highway" in West Virginia.

This guy lives near the sign.

And there is a Robert C. Byrd Memorial Scholarship

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson

I'm not going to argue idiocy

 Memorial means dead. Believe it, don't believe it, I don't care.

You're irrational if you don't want the new president to succeed - Gingrich

 

Memorial:

Memorial adjetive:

1- serving to preserve remembrance : commerative.

2- of or relating memory.

No mention of DEAD. 

 brain still constipated eh nwahs?

Jesus Loves You

lol

 Cocodrie, you're not 60 miles from me. I hope you're playing a part. Sometimes I think not, but times like these I think so. God help us if you aren't.

You're irrational if you don't want the new president to succeed - Gingrich

 

nwahs

That definition says nothing about DEAD. Read it if you can.

At least I didn't call you a damned liar.

Jesus Loves You

My bad...

My bad...

Now let's be exact, coco....

He didn't call me a liar; he implied that I am an idiot.

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson

Good evening MB

On Feb 17 in the Homosexuals and pedophilia thread he called me an idiot, a liar,  a damned idiot and a court jester.

I was just reminding him of his shortcomings.

 Jesus Loves You

Oh, struck a nerve, did

Oh, struck a nerve, did I???

You might want to contact the State of West Virginia with your complaints.

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson

No, its just no win here

 I kinda hope you go out into the world and tell people you're a graduate of the Rush Limbaugh school of conservatism and you know they name memorials after peope who are alive. Maybe do a hooked on phonics pitch?

:D good night.

You're irrational if you don't want the new president to succeed - Gingrich

 

Backwards Shawn,

As it has been pointed out to your obvious blindness, there is the Bill Clinton Memorial Library in Arkansas. Pretty sure Bill's still out there sniffing around.

You're right, no win here for you tonight. Try logic and reason next time.

Clinton Library??

Do you reference the Clinton Bait shop and sex toy sales store in Ark where a BJ (from a man) comes free with every sale?

 

 

Old, Retired and glad of it.

APedant

Well it appears that with this statement the AP wishes to be APedant.

Saying that a bill should be named after Sen. Kennedy is different from saying the bill will be named after the late Sen. Kennedy. (As Rush Limbaugh put it, "Before it’s over, it’ll be called the Ted Kennedy Memorial Health Care Bill.")

Well being A Pedant myself wehen I want to,  one can also say that while "memorial" is obviously used to commemorate or remember the dead, it is ALSO used as a term serving to remember a "past event" such as: The passage of a Health Care Bill into legislation.

In other words it is a legitimate usage to use it about a piece of legislation in which the person associated is very much alive.

Got that Mr Fournier? If that is your real name.

Obama Amends The Constitution
Check out the poster @ Hollycrud checker-outers

Besides which, Jack, as I

Besides which, Jack, as I mentioned above, Limbaugh never said it would be named after the late Ted Kennedy.  That was Fournier's fabrication.

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson

from wash Post Former

from wash Post

Former Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean said "enough is enough" when it comes Democrats delighting in the hullabaloo over Rush Limbaugh.

 

 even Howard dean says enough of the Rush bashing from the MSM.  maybe Howard realizes that this is going to backfire, the constant attack on Rush every week. 

In the Dilbert cartoon, when Dogbert was testifying....

...before congress and accused his questioner of being a "wool-coated glob of fat," the person I first thought of was the useless Ted Kennedy.

Ted Kennedy is nothing but a drunken, lying fool of a politician, who not only left a young woman to die in his car because of his drunk driving (and got out of it because of his money), but has the blood on his hands of several million southeast Asians, who were killed shortly after Sen. Fat-ass forced us to up and quit in Vietnam.

This worthless waste of oxygen should have been thrown under the jail many years ago, and left to rot.

With the exception of Joe Jr., the entire dysfunctional Kennedy family has been nothing but an ongoing embarrassment to this nation for nearly six decades.

It is long past time for them all to just go the hell away.

-Dave

This coup has gone on long enough. The time to put it down is NOW.

 It is long past time for

 It is long past time for them all to just go the hell away.

I agree, Dave.  I don't even care if they go away mad.

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson

With all due respect to Mr. Bozell, calling the Associated Press

a "venerable news institution", is like calling Keith Olbermann a venerable journalist. Venerable is defined as worthy of reverence or commanding respect.

The Associated Press has published news with a leftist agenda for quite a long time. NewsBusters has documented this liberal agenda for many years. Any respect the AP may have had they threw away years ago.

----------------------------------------------------------

“The media is a disgrace.  You have forfeited any notion that you once had of respect” ~ Rush Limbaugh

Asociated (with terrorists) Press...

Did you really expect the AP to get one right. They haven't for years and aren't very good at producing staged photo's either. I discount everything with an AP tag attached by 99 44/100%. Sometimes the actually get the date correct.

 

 Old, Retired and glad of it.

First of all, Rush can take

First of all, Rush can take care of himself no matter who the rock thrower may be.  As for the that drunken slob, kennedy, the sooner he drops dead the better.

More importantly, or better, to the point, the health care bill, as now proposed, will be a disaster to health care in the United States.  For example, let's take its impact on the drug industry.  The drug industry in the US is the innovative engine to the rest of the world.  That is because anywhere else on the planet that the wherewithall of talent, money, and technology is available, there is mandatory pricing of drugs by the government as part of government run health care. 

If we move to socialize health care and with it government mandated controls on the drugs that drug companies produce, capital will look elsewhere to find profitable enterprises.  What that means to the American people is the slowing of wonder drugs to a trickle, if that.  

It just stands to reason that if you can't make money at something that takes north of a billion dollars and ten years to produce it will hardly be worth trying.

Here at NB and elsewhere you can continue to avoid highlighting and discussing the real issues of the day and banter about who called who a name, but do so at your own peril.  And, I mean that literally.  

Think I am wrong about the above.  Recently, the first stupid liberal, bambi, stated that he would allow drugs from countries that have strict price controls to enter the US.  This alone undercuts the profitability of our drug companies.  The result has been an across the board loss in share price of the drug companies of about 13%.  That has happened in a mere two weeks!   

US drug companies for some time have not been profitable enough to generate internally the capital to embark on the lengthly process to bring a new drug to market.  They have had to rely on the capital markets in the form of a secondary stock issue to generate that capital.  With just the above being put in place that source of funding will surely dry up.  No money; no new drugs. 

What this bill ought to be called is the "death of news drugs memorial bill" or just "your death bill" if the drug that would have saved your life never comes to market.  

 

jdh... Oh lord how right

jdh...

Oh lord how right you are...people aren't going to wake up in time at all in my opinion before the decades of destruction that is being swiftly implemented and crammed down our throats at break-neck speed by this administration and various crews...and they have four years to do far more damage.

Just the very importance of what you are saying that will affect all of us with time one way or the other is another segment of our very being that is being choked off from us...and we will suffer for this....millions and millions will.

JD you ever hit the nail on

JD you ever hit the nail on the head......

Also the drug company import thing is so true.  Looks like the US based drug companies can pay the lawsuit while the importers are free and clear....  Good way to create jobs ??

I also heard that the Obama Health care plan will require/mandate everyone join,?  How is that going to happen?  In whose fantasy?

No Representation in NorCal

The Senator Kennedy Memorial Communist Healthcare Plan

Sooner or later, Senator Kennedy WILL die.  I echo the sentiments that some have said - 'good riddance'.  The man was, and is an onion.  He's lived a life of successful villainy and my only fear is that whoever replaces him is going to be even worse.

As a christian and god-fearing man who believes that judgement rests with God alone, I have no wish to speak ill of anyone.  But it's hard when you see these vile politicians and newspeople condemning the righteous because of their righteousness - letting the guilty and the wicked go free because of their money - and upholding secret combinations to get power and gain - they make it tough to be charitable sometimes.

So how about this Mr. "AP" man?  'Saying 'the Ted Kennedy Memorial Health Care Bill' is different
from saying 'the late Sen. Kennedy.' (As YOU put it, "that's outrageous and reprehensible.")

That better - Mr. ASSociated Press guy?

Do you not consider

Do you not consider describing the eventual death of a gravely ill person as "good riddance" to be sort of "speaking ill" of someone?

Jer

Speaking Ill

As I said in my own post Jer, If you can't take it don't dish it out! The days of turning the other cheek are over for us! You libs have set the terms for this fight and you're going to get more than you bargained for. We are not going to allow you Communists to have America! We will fight you to our last breath! Furthermore, if you answer me with an insult, "Sticks and stones will brake my bones but names will never hurt me!"

General, I would invite you

General, I would invite you to track my posts, and if you can find a single one where I have initiated a personal attack, I will "apologize hugely" [to quote Rush].  Contrariwise, there have been scores launched against me.  In those cases, I do have a difficult time turning the other cheek.  I saw it done all too often in the 90's when Democrats and liberals were used for daily punching bags by the Right.

Jer

 

Yes.... Yes I would. As I

Yes.... Yes I would.

As I said, I have no wish to speak ill of anyone.  But again, as I have said, when wicked and corrupt men like Kennedy use their own deaths to pimp communist health care for their own power and gain, I don't have to keep my mouth shut about it.  And hark how many liberal communists are jumping at the chance to pimp communist health care along with him...

 I'll take it a step further - because liberal communists LOVE setting up victims to pimp their agenda.  I think now that Rush has let the cat out of the bag - now that he's exposed the liberal plot to use Kennedy's death to pimp communist health care - these liberals are going to feel they need to up the ante a little by adding yet more victims to the mix.  

I think now, they're going to call it: "The Ted Kennedy/Paul Wellstone Memorial Communist Health Care Plan For the Children, the Disabled and the Elderly/Republicans are Nazis and We Hate Rush Limbaugh Bill".

The real point here is that

The real point here is that the AP is no longer a journalistic organization as they now are no more than an arm of the propaganda machine.

Yes, Rush should be more

Yes, Rush should be more respectful...kind of like the way the Communists were when Tony Snow was ill.

Honestly, I've grown up believing Ted Kennedy to be a pain in the ass for this country and a crook.  He only got elected...and elected, and elected because of his brother's name...oh, and probably tons of pork brought by him to Taxachussetts.  I also think that the Kennedy's are generally idiots and something just ain't right with that gene pool.

What exactly has this man done for this country?  Nothing.  Just been a strong mouthpiece for the Communist movement.

One of the 24% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 89% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.

Thanks for all the

Thanks for all the reminders about Chappaquiddick.  I went back and re-lived Ted’s immortal words…  

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/tedkennedychappaquiddick.htm

I’m willing to allow a man to die without piling on… but if the Congress chooses to create a monument in the name of this man… rub our noses in the mess... well, let’s pile on in Mary Jo’s memory.    The way I see it, it may not even be possible to say something beyond the bounds of good taste about Edward Kennedy.  He lied about his role in the death of another human being.

Rush is just anticipating what we will be hearing from the members of Congress.

Dems and kool aid MSM

are mad at Rush and others for spoiling their ability to use Kennedy in the bills name.....

Its a pride thing..

No Representation in NorCal

The AP response is deceitful too

"Saying that a bill should be named after Sen. Kennedy is different
from saying the bill will be named after the late Sen. Kennedy."

This distinction was not made in the article.  

 

The AP [Almost Puke!]

Oh how wonderful it is to see how the libs want precise terms when anything is referenced to their liberal icons! The insertion of the word late turns the whole context of the monologue into demonizing "Poor Old Ted!" Do any of these "Poor Little Babies" remember all the below gutter level crap their side said about the Gipper when diagnosed with Althseimers? How about the classic "He was just about dead while president" and "Whats any different about him now?"  Heres a little tidbit for you liberal infants out there! If you can't take it, don't dish it out! In the terminology of Sean Connery in the "Untouchables", "If you send one of ours to the hospital, we'll send three of yours to the morgue!"