For decades now, the national media have insisted in each presidential election cycle that voters should ignore the liberal wizards hiding behind the curtain of the Democratic Party. Each plausible Democratic presidential contender is a "moderate" or "centrist," be he Walter Mondale or Michael Dukakis or John Kerry. But now to describe Hillary Clinton as a "moral conservative" is so upside down and backwards it sounds like.... "This is your brain on drugs."
That’s what Time reporter Amy Sullivan announced on Tucker Carlson’s show on MSNBC. She suggested Hillary might be "fairly liberal" on economic issues, "but she’s a moral conservative." Sullivan was once an aide to Sen. Tom Daschle. In Hillary Clinton, Sullivan has allegedly found an authentic Christian conservative’s role model.
What makes Hillary a "moral conservative" in the eyes of a Time reporter? For starters, she’s a darling of gay-left groups like the Human Rights Campaign. Early in her Senate tenure, she voted against the Jesse Helms amendment to deny federal funds to public schools that would ban the Boy Scouts from their meeting rooms, and for the Barbara Boxer amendment to allow such punitive action against the Scouts with no threat to their money from Washington.
Like Al Gore, she campaigned in 2000 against the "don’t ask, don’t tell" policy for gays in the military, and accused her GOP opponent for being "out of the mainstream." In fact, on October 6, 2001, Hillary was the keynote speaker for the Human Rights Campaign’s big annual fundraising dinner. She pledged she would keep lobbying for "hate crimes" legislation and "domestic partner" benefits and declared that gays who lost lovers on 9/11 should get the same federal assistance as "other families."
Oh, she’s that kind of moral conservative.
The HRC was so pleased that they put a Hillary quote in big letters in their annual report where she stressed a royal "our" in her solidarity with the nation’s largest gay-left advocacy group: "What counts is our energy, our determination, our honesty, our integrity, our talent. That...is what is represented in this room tonight." In her first two years, Senator Clinton had a perfect 100-percent voting score from the gay "liberation" lobby. Since then, she and her fellow New York Senator, Chuck Schumer, have identical 88 percent pro-gay scores in each of the last two sessions of Congress.
In March, HRC posted video of Hillary at a fundraising lunch, praising them for attacking conservatives resisting leftist trends like so-called "gay marriage." In proposing a marriage amendment to the Constitution, the conservatives were being divisive, engaging in "wedge politics at its worst," and acting "against the entire forward movement of American history."
I wonder if, when viewed through the lenses of Time magazine, these are immoral conservatives?
That was nothing compared to Sen. Clinton’s fierce solidarity with the abortion lobby: routine 100 ratings from NARAL Pro-Choice America, routine zeroes from the National Right to Life Committee.
On the last Sunday morning in April of 2004, while many Americans were in church, the hard-left warriors of abortion advocacy gathered for a march on Washington which they called a "March for Women’s Lives." The star of this march was moral conservative Hillary Clinton, dressed in her trademark black pantsuit – this time, with a hot pink blouse to match the official Planned Parenthood T-shirts.
The abortion-on-demand crowd wailed for her, reserving for her the biggest applause of the day, according to an account in The Nation magazine. The major media, from ABC and CBS to NPR and The New York Times, presented Hillary to the nation with a brief soundbite, a bland declaration that everyone should register and vote for Kerry for President.
Only the AP offered a different soundbite of the day, in which she trashed Team Bush: "This administration is filled with people who disparage sexual harassment laws, who claim the pay gap between women and men is phony ... who consider Roe vs. Wade the worst abomination of constitutional law in our history." No one at AP was going to ask her which atrocious Bush official she was describing. It was especially odd to hear Hillary Clinton accuse some other White House of being lax on sexual harassment, considering her husband’s flagrant violations, and her failure to stop them. For the media it was another day, another whitewash.
Amy Sullivan is a typical liberal reporter/activist trying to close the "God gap" between the Democrats and the Republicans. She has a book coming out next year on "how and why" the Democrats will win over religious voters. I wonder if she believes Hillary is moving closer toward God, or if the news is that God is moving toward Hillary.



















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yeah right
November 20, 2007 - 22:57 ET by dboBubba's a moral conservative too. That's why he tries to mate anything that moves.
We should be grateful
November 21, 2007 - 01:34 ET by KC MulvilleAt least Sullivan admits that Hillary is a liberal on economic issues.
No one buys the idea that Hillary is a moral conservative, and it's a measure of their arrogance that Hillary supporters try to push this one. It shows that either they just don't understand what conservatives believe, or they don't care.
The Hillary campaign shows, over and over again, that they want the labels of success without earning them. Hillary is portrayed as experienced, but she's never been an executive. Hillary is portrayed as tough, but she avoids every confrontation. Hillary is portrayed as anything that will sound good at the moment, and almost always without any substance behind it.
It's the perception, stupid.
Given the so called
November 21, 2007 - 02:07 ET by wiwfGiven the so called "overwhelming" opposition to anything-conservatives, wouldn't calling Hillary a "moral conservative" be hazardous to her electability?
Not sure who Sullivan is trying to convince.
Also, Hillary was playing the sexism card recently. Applying some Michael Jackson rhetoric (?): Before playing the sexism card, Hillary should first pick a gender to be, because she looks an awful lot like a man!
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Did Sullivan give a single
November 21, 2007 - 06:27 ET by motherbeltDid Sullivan give a single example of anything that justifies calling Clinton a moral conservative?
Apparently Clinton is a moral conservative simply because Amy Sullivan says she is. You know, like some people say they're Catholic, even though they believe in abortion, divorce and adultery because "it's what's right for me."
Give me a break.
Abe Lincoln: How many legs does a dog have if you call the tail a leg?
Listener: 5.
Lincoln, No, 4. Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it one.
Say what you like
November 21, 2007 - 08:36 ET by NavyCDRJust because a cat has kittens in an oven, it doesn't make them biscuits.
Motherbelt, she said that
November 21, 2007 - 13:03 ET by lotrMotherbelt, she said that Hillary "stood up to" one of the prominent abortion lobby groups (I forget which) by saying something along the lines of "we have an abortion problem -- there are too many abortions" (I paraphrase), which is an indication that abortion is not necessarily a good thing. Apparently, there are radical abortion activists who proclaim abortion to be the best thing since sliced bread. Of course, Sullivan in her interview was not nearly as lucid as this (she sounded, quite frankly, like she didn't know what she was talking about), and given the current polling statistics on the issue, Hillary's voting record does not a "moral conservative" make.
Moral?? Leftists don't
November 21, 2007 - 08:23 ET by WolfremMoral?? Leftists don't know the meaning of the word....I take that back, they do know because they have been weeding it out of existence in our society for decades. Seperation of church and state sound familiar?
Now they are changing the meaning of morals and only touting it when it is convenient for them, just like they do with that piece of paper called the Constitution.
"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it." - George Santayana
Well, if the definition
November 21, 2007 - 08:57 ET by motherbeltWell, if the definition doesn't fit, you just change the definition.
Yes, Motherbelt, that is
November 21, 2007 - 09:53 ET by WolfremYes, Motherbelt, that is exactly right. And Political Correctness has been a very useful tool for them in this aspect.
BTW, if anything, I find the Clintons Ammoral more than anything else. IMO Hillary would have made an excellent director of the KGB.
"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it." - George Santayana
never
November 21, 2007 - 10:22 ET by CatherwoodEven if she wins, she'll never be my president. She's a politician without a soul; she doesn't deserve to even be considered as a presidential candidate. Only her deviousness makes it possible for her to run.
Pray that it doesn't happen.
November 21, 2007 - 13:06 ET by lotrPray that it doesn't happen.
This administration is
November 21, 2007 - 12:33 ET by misterbee241This administration is filled with people who disparage sexual harassment laws...
Unlike the Clinton administration I suppose. When I worked for the Department of the Navy, every year we'd have this big deal meeting called POSH - Prevention Of Sexual Harassment. It was a 2-3 hour deal and "all hands" were mandated to attend. In that meeting, which was focused toward the men, we were told the things we could say and could not say to a female co-worker. We even had to sign a paper saying we attended and were in compliance with the indoctriniation. One of those meetings we had to watch a instructional film on how to properly put on a condom. A lot of us got up and walked out including the female program manager. I refused to attend and wrote a letter up the chain of command explaining why, and I never heard another thing from it. I dont think I was the only one.
My point is, when Wild Bill got in that little unpleasantness with Monica, all that stuff went away. During the Starr investigations and the impeachment proceedings, there was absolutely NO mention of POSH by anybody. A year or so after he left office, POSH came back with a whimper. We now had to log onto a website and take the "training." Of course nobody did. This is your tax money at work, folks. I gave serious consideration of obtaining a copy of the condom tape and giving it to a local church and telling them this is what's going on at the Navy installation.
Every year we had to go to an ethics training session. This was also during the Clinton gig. When the moderator asked if there were any questions, one guy stood up and asked if this film would be played at the White House. The moderator ignored him. We assumed the answer was no.
There is none so blind as those who will not see - Jonathan Swift
Hillary's no moral conservative
November 22, 2007 - 14:52 ET by Happy PickBozell hits the nail squarely on its head yet again! Yet there seems something abnormal about Hillary Clinton in that regardless of the seemingly almost normal facial and bodily expressions humans exhibit, it has seemed to me in her case these expressions are totally contrived as though the human body of Hillary Clinton appears as other human beings but lacking a human being inside. There is a distinct nuance emmanating from this semblence of a physical human body named Hillary Clinton which one would experience upon seeing an empty shell of sorts, or a puppet which in reality has nothing human about it - rather as though an empty being were being directed by some outside force to the detriment of humanity at large. In some ways I am remined in some respects to associate this being known as Hillary Clinton with a "vacuumed out" being controlled by enimical outside forces.