Krauthammer Slams Media’s ‘Appalling Double Standard’ on Teenage Romney v Obama’s Wright
Reacting to Mitt Romney’s discomfort toward proposed independent expenditure ads reminding Americans of President Obama’s connections to Reverend Jeremiah Wright, on FNC Thursday night Charles Krauthammer delivered a rebuke to the media’s presumption raising Wright would be illegitimate. Krauthammer sure didn’t hold back:
I think there is an appalling double standard here. It’s okay for the Washington Post to run a five thousand word front page story on a prank that Romney, at the age of 15, committed. And yet it’s somehow illegitimate, the low road or whatever, for people to bring up the fact that the adult Obama had a 20-year relationship with a racist anti-American preacher whom he considered, spoke about, wrote about as his mentor and spiritual advisor.
“That,” Krauthammer emphasized, “is a double standard unlike any I’ve ever seen.”
On FNC’s Special Report, the syndicated conservative columnist advised that bringing up Wright now would be a tactical “mistake” since “we know who Obama is. He isn’t the unknown of ‘08. He’s got a record,” but, he maintained, “in principle, if you want to do it, it would be completely legitimate and I think the double standard ought to be denounced rather than accepted as everybody, including Romney, does.”
Earlier, from Clay Waters: “GOP's Anti-Jeremiah Wright Strategy ‘Incendiary, Racially Tinged’....But Wright Himself Isn’t?”
Krauthammer, during the panel segment on the May 17 Special Report with Bret Baier on FNC:
I think there is an appalling double standard here. It’s okay for the Washington Post to run a five thousand word front page story on a prank that Romney, at the age of 15, committed. And yet it’s somehow illegitimate, the low road or whatever, for people to bring up the fact that the adult Obama had a 20-year relationship with a racist anti-American preacher whom he considered, spoke about, wrote about as his mentor and spiritual advisor. That is a double standard unlike any I’ve ever seen.
Now John McCain accepted it in his campaign. I think it was mistake and I think it’s legitimate in a case of a man as unknown as Obama to ask, of whom there was no history, there was no legislative achievements or signature intellectual achievements. He wrote two books that were both about himself incidentally – which might have been a clue. But other than that, we didn't know him and illegitimate to ask about his associates? How else would you know him, him and William Ayers? But McCain accepted it. I thought it was a tactical error, but I understand the noble intent that was behind it.
But today, I would say, tactically it’s a mistake because we know who Obama is. He isn’t the unknown of ‘08. He’s got a record and you don’t have to bring it up. But in principle, if you want to do it, it would be completely legitimate and I think the double standard ought to be denounced rather than accepted as everybody, including Romney, does.
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and after three and a half years
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Thu, 05/17/2012 - 8:34pm.
how much of his past do we now know?
➚ What we know
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Thu, 05/17/2012 - 8:37pm.
We know he had his literary agent present him as being "born in Kenya"
Kenya?
Submitted by almostacowboy on Thu, 05/17/2012 - 9:30pm.
Did I say Kenya? I meant, er, um, Kentucky! Yeah! That's the ticket! Obama was born in Kentucky! Nairobi, Kentucky!
➚ Firesign Theater
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Thu, 05/17/2012 - 9:45pm.
In one of their Albums, "I think We're All Bozos On this Bus" (I think), a woman asks
"where are you from, boy" "Nairobi, Ma'am, isn't everybody?"
Who says Life doesn't imitate art?
Correction: The album was How Can You Be In Two Places At Once, When You’re Not Anywhere At All
Gosh, when will the Left stop bringing up the 'birther' issue...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 05/18/2012 - 9:50am.
/sarc off
Actually, we DON'T know that Obama had his literary agent do any such thing, any more than we know Bush was aware his campaign brochure represented he was still flying jet fighters long after he had been grounded.
Even Andrew Breitbart on whose site this latest revelation was published, to his credit, rejected the Kenyan birth nonsense and believed Obama was born in Hawaii.
Jer
Proof
Submitted by stratman on Fri, 05/18/2012 - 2:33pm.
Really, strat...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 05/18/2012 - 4:56pm.
You want me to spend an hour or so tracking it down, maybe buy another subscription, only to have you dismiss it as irrelevant because it's vastly different and trivial?
Why don't you just take my word for it? And reject it anyway.
Jer
Jer
Submitted by stratman on Fri, 05/18/2012 - 5:20pm.
I did not ask you then or now to spend your money. That was your calculation, so don't try to pin that albatross about my neck.
I have never heard this allegation concerning Bush, AFAIK. I was not outright rejecting your tendentious comment. You made it and I asked for proof. If you don't care to provide proof, with or without an explanation, then so be it. Don't insult me by trying to divert from your responsibility in such a manner.
If you had posted you couldn't find it then I would have accepted your excuse. Our recollections and the ability to find a needle in a haystack on the internet can be challenging at times. Instead, you decided to go the aggrieved way, so link or slink.
A positive note - congratulations on your years on the wagon. That takes fortitude that deserve commendation.
Sorry, strat...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 05/18/2012 - 5:52pm.
But it gets to be a little frustrating due to the fact that maybe 90% of my link requests are simply ignored, while I at least attempt to comply with every link request tendered to me--although many times after searching, locating and sourcing, the person who had demanded it doesn't even acknowledge my effort. [Btw, none of the foregoing applies to you.]
In this case, it's not the money issue, but the fact that it appears you would be inclined to disregard any pertinent source I may be able to produce. But, God forbid that I should appear aggrieved. Therefore, i shall cheerfully and enthusiastically undertake my assignment.
And thanks for the kind and congratulatory words re my continuing wagon ride.
Jer
strat...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 05/18/2012 - 7:11pm.
It was reportedly included in bio on Bush campaign web site:
Belatedly, [Democrats] are calling attention to misleading claims Bush and his campaign have made about his Vietnam-era service as a fighter pilot with the Texas Air National Guard, and to documents that contradict Bush's insistence that he attended required drills in Alabama and Texas in 1972 and 1973. Five months after the Globe first reported those discrepancies, Bush's biography on his presidential campaign Web site remains unchanged, stating that he served as a pilot in the Texas Guard from 1968 to 1973.
In fact, Bush only flew with the 111th Fighter-Interceptor Squadron at Ellington Field in Houston from June 1970 until April 1972. That month he ceased flying altogether, two years before his military commitment ended, an unusual step that has left some veteran fighter pilots puzzled. [my emphasis in bold]
scroll down to source: Walter V Robinson Boston Globe
Jer
Bush did the same thing Kerry
Submitted by Zippy on Fri, 05/18/2012 - 10:10pm.
Bush did the same thing Kerry did.
Except Bush, had all of his National Guard hours logged in. Bush had completed his commitment.
Kerry deserted his post(Resigned his Commission. Or he was out of the family allotment).
And got a deferral from Jimmy Carter. That is why JF Kerry does not have a DD214.
What did they both do??????
They helped their respective "Family" friends get elected. Door to door campaign.
John Kerry does not remember this. It was below his station. To campaign for family friends. Door to door.
George Bush can fly Jets.
What can billgore or barryandtheidiot do?????? Bankrupt the world.............
Good grief,
Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 05/18/2012 - 10:22pm.
This is pathetic! Sounds like leftist drivel from the gitgo.
Then you snap at Strat, but your excuse doesnt apply to him?
Oh, goody. A Lefty Wingnut's
Submitted by stratman on Fri, 05/18/2012 - 10:49pm.
Oh, goody. A Lefty Wingnut's web site who doesn't provide a link to the source either.
As I recall, this turned out to be all sizzle and no steak. None of this went beyond the Leftist conspiro types and, obviously, goofballs like you.
Nice try Jer.
The facts we do know, ie confirmed facts, are John Kerry lied about throwing away HIS OWN medals, he received at least one Purple Heart for essentially scratches that required no hospital time, he carried around a camera to chronicle his "achievements" for use to promote himself politically, and his GPA was essentially the same as GWB, although we didn't know the last one until well after the election for some strange reason. Maybe we'll learn about Obama's records one day too.
Because you've been slightly less douchey than usual, and I'm in a giving mood, this might help you out.
Kinda odd
Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 05/18/2012 - 11:02pm.
How the leftist media missed it eh. Do they have more scruples then Jer now?
Boudin
Submitted by stratman on Sat, 05/19/2012 - 12:00am.
Is it Rhetorical Friday again? ;-)
Good evening Strat
Submitted by cocodrie on Sat, 05/19/2012 - 12:25am.
For me as a catholic it was Fry-day. I just got home from a shrimp dinner.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
LOL
Submitted by stratman on Sat, 05/19/2012 - 10:22am.
Fresh From the Louisiana Gulf? Yum!
Were they, as Blonde is fond of saying, as big as kittens?
Another sad shameful chapter of American Journalism.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 05/19/2012 - 12:07am.
A sad chapter Uncle Jer feels compelled to relive for some reason. The media continued to push the Bush was AWOL meme long after it was shown conclusively they had no proof.
Uncle Jer: ...more than we know Bush was aware his campaign brochure represented he was still flying jet fighters long after he had been grounded.
Your point, other than adding to the media lies by saying he was grounded.
36. ( tr ) to confine (an aircraft, pilot, etc) to the ground
A pilot that is grounded is forbidden to fly. So which is it? Was he forbidden to fly or was he AWOL?
From Uncle Jer's link --- Democrats] are calling attention...to documents that contradict Bush's insistence that he attended required drills in Alabama and Texas in 1972 and 1973. ~ .In fact, Bush only flew with the 111th Fighter-Interceptor Squadron at Ellington Field in Houston from June 1970 until April 1972. That month he ceased flying altogether.
In fact, Uncle Jer's own link shows this is a media lie ---
Once Again
Submitted by stratman on Sat, 05/19/2012 - 10:35am.
The Vet does the hard work in the clean-up position. Thank you.
If you ever need another user name I think The Cleaner would be fitting. Not only do you take out the troll trash but you clean the clocks of us mere mortals on a regular basis.
One minor point related to the "sad chapter" was raised
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 12:29am.
by me, Vet. Others have insisted on enlarging the issue to a full-blown rehash of Bush v. Kerry.
This began with Cool Arrow's claim that "We know that he [Obama] had his literary agent present him as being "born in Kenya".
[Note: In fact, the "agent" says it was a "mistake" and it was his (own)]
So, I responded as follows:
Actually, we DON'T know that Obama had his literary agent do any such thing, any more than we know Bush was aware his campaign brochure represented he was still flying jet fighters long after he had been grounded.
Even Andrew Breitbart on whose site this latest revelation was published, to his credit, rejected the Kenyan birth nonsense and believed Obama was born in Hawaii.
Jer
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2012/05/17/krauthammer-slams-me...
strat demanded proof (while, for reasons unknown, adding a gratuitous shot that I was "untrustworthy")
I had recalled references to embellished representations of military service during prior campaigns but I doubted the actual material could be easily produced, so I posted what I DID find, i.e. an excerpted article which directly alluded to the subject and linked it, describing it as "reportedly" etc. [Here is another similar report from a lib website which mentioned the same issue]:
In the presidential campaign's waning hours, Democrats focused their bare-knuckle attacks on Republican George W. Bush's military record and judgment, as backers came to the defense of the Texas governor. Two prominent Democratic senators accused Mr. Bush of embellishing his military service, citing campaign material that says he flew fighter jets until he left the Air National Guard in September 1973. They said Guard records indicate that the governor made his last flight in April 1972 before going to work on a political campaign in Alabama. [My emphasis in bold]
Now, my claim was limited, not particularly inflammatory and intended only to show that candidates may not be completely and continuously aware of what their campaigns or associates may be saying or writing about them.
Also, my previous criticism of Bush's Guard service has been relatively muted and balanced, as reflected by this comment posted last month:
Not in my neck of the woods.
Submitted by Jer 04/17/2012 2:52pm.
I don't know of a single member of the Army Reserves who was granted an early release during that same period. And, by the way, Bush had already lost his flight status by failing to take the required physical well before his early discharge.
Jer
edited to add: "I think Bush did game the system a bit. Transferring to Alabama so he could help run a buddy's political campaign and then not showing up for meetings for months would very likely have resulted in some guy not named Bush being put on the next flight to Da Nang. That said, he had already put in a hell of a lot of hours piloting F-102A's which in and of itself is no mean feat and places him in an elite category. He served his country." [my emphasis in bold]
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2012/04/17/nbc-and-cbs-battled-b...
The record indicates that Bush was indeed grounded--or at least his flying status was suspended--because of his failure to take the required physical in May of 1972. He never flew again. To my knowledge those assertions have never been disputed. Do my link[s] to the partisan "lefty" sites irrefutably prove campaign embellishments? No. Do they tend to support the argument made in my initial reply to Cool? Yes. And linking one or both certainly doesn't warrant accusations of goofballery, douchery, lying, lacking scruples, etc.
Jer
You are gone,
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 2:49am.
Aint ya?
Sure enough is, ain't he?
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 3:07am.
Done went on and on about George Bush.
I don't think Jer likes it that O'birther went and got himself misrepresented for 11 years.
OK.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 7:26pm.
Uncle Jer: ...any more than we know Bush was aware his campaign brochure represented he was still flying jet fighters.
But did they claim he was flying jets right up to the end? Or did they claim he was a pilot in the TANG?
Cuz I can't find any brochures from the 2000 or the 2004 campaign.
➚ VET
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 7:37pm.
I can find a release from Barack O'birther's literary agency that claimed (for 16 years) he was born in Kenya.
Update.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 7:45pm.
I found the 2004 campaign brochure.
...a bachelor's degree from Yale University in 1968, then served as an F-102 fighter pilot in the Texas Air National Guard. President Bush received a Master of Business Administration from Harvard Business School in 1975.
Said he was a pilot. And did not give any dates. I was a sailor for 20 years. Does not mean I was stationed on ships every day of that 20 years. You can be a pilot and not fly every minute and still retain the pilot title.
Update number two.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 7:55pm.
This campaign brochure from 2000 did not give his history.
Vet...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 8:14pm.
The errors could very well have been corrected. I think it's unlikely I would recall the issue being raised and be able to find a couple of specific references to it if it weren't true or at least a credible challenge. Maybe there is a counter source along the lines of Bush Campaign Refutes Allegations of Exaggerating Flying Record in TANG.
Jer
Vet...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 8:02pm.
I can't either. I recalled hearing or reading several years ago about the campaign misstating or exaggerating his stint as a pilot in the Guard. I've posted all that I've been able to locate, which are a couple of references to the issue but not primary sources. One refers to a claim Bush was a "pilot" from '68 to '73, the other to a representation he was flying jet fighters until September of '73. And strat came up with the item from his '78 campaign which had him serving in the Air Force and TANG after receiving his MBA--which is not exactly accurate either.
None of these are egregious errors but illustrate how erroneous details can be disseminated about or on behalf of a candidate which the latter may not even be aware of.
Jer
I am going to say the stuff your were hearing or reading...
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 8:27pm.
...was bull. Not that you are being dishonest here. But whatever you read or heard likely was being dishonest.
Campaign stuff is collectable. I was in a museum in Chicago that had a whole bunch of stuff from presidential campaigns of lore. I myself still have the signs and campaign buttons from the McCain campaign and some very expensive looking brochures the Kinzinger campaign put out a few months back. So the 2 brochures on that site selling campaing stuff is probably the real stuff.
So you're saying, for example, that when
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 9:01pm.
Walter Robinson of the Boston Globe explicitly mentioned misleading bio information about Bush's Guard service on his 2000 campaign website, he is simply making it up out of thin air--since the Bush.org brochure you located contains no biographical information whatsoever?
If that's the case, there should be dozens/hundreds/thousands of google hits regarding a demand for Robinson's firing for journalistic fraud.
Jer
Dude. Do your research. Please.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 9:30pm.
Walter Robinson, Boston Globe, May 23rd, 2000. "1-year gap in Bush's Guard duty"
Entire article here. Nothing in there about his brochures or campaign site and the only bit about his bio in the article says this - And Bush himself, in his 1999 autobiography, ''A Charge to Keep,'' recounts the thrills of his pilot training, which he completed in June 1970. ''I continued flying with my unit for the next several years,'' the governor wrote.
Um, even giving that he never flew again after April or May of '72. That kinda counts as several, almost. Close enough not to make a big deal. Still not close to your campaign brochure stuff. Dude. The Cisco. It is frying your brain.
Dude. Recheck the previously linked sources. Please.
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 10:06pm.
The relevant Walter Robinson Globe article which refers to the allegedly misleading campaign bio is dated October 31, 2000, an excerpt of which is linked in my original reply to strat [provoking his "lefty" source derision].
Dude, we're investing far more time into this than is warranted, don't you think?
Jer
Yes.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 10:54pm.
.
Wait. No.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 11:11pm.
Bush's biography on his presidential campaign Web site remains unchanged, stating that he served as a pilot in the Texas Guard from 1968 to 1973.
That? That is what article you are referring to? Dude, he WAS a pilot for TANG from 1968 to 1973. Again, you don't have to fly a plane every single day to claim to be a pilot. If they are quoting directly from the website, it is uber ultra lame.
Yeah, stratman was had. Sorry buddy. Love ya.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 9:10pm.
President Bush's campaign brochure says he "served in the U.S Air Force". The DU claims this is a lie. Hmmmmm. Really? If it is a lie, why did President Bush get a DD-214 that shows he was released from active duty? Active duty in, gasp, the United States Air Force.
Newspaper article from way back when concerning that very controversy that was not really all that controversial The Air Force says that Air National Guard members are considered "guardsmen on active duty" while receiving pilot training. They are not, however, counted as members of the overall active-duty Air Force.
E Tu, The Vet?
Submitted by stratman on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 5:21am.
Not had. However, your customary due diligence has burned a meticulously crafted honeypot and you jumped the shark on me.
I provided the link to Jer out of civility. He previously had spent money running down a source and I felt bad for him. He was having trouble making his case and I found that brochure that lent some credibility to his recollection. It was a way for him to more gracefully exit the topic, especially without further expense. I have no desire to call Jer on every mistake or ask him to provide proof for every unreferenced comment he makes. I don't read every post he makes either. With Jer, less is more and anymore is too much. However, in this instance, if he continued on his path of misinformation I would refer him back to my link from DU with particular attention to the comment section which details what you just posted.
OK. There was no meticulously crafting, but you did jump the shark on me. C'est la vie, The Vet. I still love ya too.
I know. It was weak.
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 2:23pm.
Training ain't active duty. The brochure should not have said it. Sorry about the jump-sharky-um-ing-thing or suntin' like that.
Thanks
Submitted by stratman on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 8:57pm.
Still lovin' ya. :-)
Also this -----
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 8:11pm.
From your link ---
Two prominent Democratic senators accused Mr. Bush of embellishing his military service, citing campaign material that says he flew fighter jets until he left the Air National Guard in September 1973.
Is that a lie? Hmmmmm.
Here is the lovingly saved transcript from those 2 senators and one more. Odd. I woulda called it 3 senators but whatever. Also odd as hell, not a damn word about the campaign brochure or material.
The problem, Vet...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 8:45pm.
is that we don't know whether that is a complete transcript or even the relevant transcript. The phone conference by Bob Kerrey and Inouye with the Nashville audience was on 11/02/2000 and there were associated newspaper articles on 11/03. But the Dallas Morning News piece which specifically mentioned the campaign materials was published 11/06. It's not clear that it was reporting on the Nashville phone conference, and, as is frequently the case, the article is no longer available except presumably by email request to the Dallas Morning News [I haven't checked its website to see if there is free archive accessibility.]
Jer
➚ So
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 8:57pm.
So . . . Obama's literary blurb is not an issue, but you're still trying to exonerate Dan Rather and Ben Barnes over the military record of a former President?
Now that's funny, I don't care who y'are.
Yet another of Cool's ludicrous logic leaps...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 9:06pm.
They stopped moving my 'concern' needle off absolute zero a long time ago.
Jer
➚ Well, let me see
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 9:18pm.
Yep, I'm right.
This thread goes all the way to the top to comments about Obama the Birther.
Actually, we DON'T know that Obama had his literary agent do any such thing, any more than we know Bush was aware his campaign brochure represented he was still flying jet fighters long after he had been grounded. - Jer
Looks like you're the one who made the logic leap. Carry on . . . hijacker!
The other problem, Uncle Jer...
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 9:37pm.
...is I quit caring. I can find no evidence or anything wrong in the Bush materials related to TANG and the two presidential elections. And frankly, I am tired of googling around on the entire subject.
Yet another problem...
...is I thought we used a corresponding set of ellipsis to show where we were carrying on.*
*No smiley. Just me being a grammar snot. And really not caring if I am correct on the subject or not.
How about it don't pass the smell test.
Submitted by The Vet on Fri, 05/18/2012 - 9:30pm.
You are qualified to fly a certain make/model of plane. The President flew jets from the late 60's / early 70's. A long retired model. So how could his campaign be saying he was still qualified to fly jets the country no longer even has.
Vet...the F-102 was indeed being phased out of front-line
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 7:43pm.
USAF service, but it remained a staple of the ANG--including Ellington where Bush was predominantly stationed--well into the 70's (eventually phased out at Ellington in 1974 or 1975. The last flight physical taken by Bush was in April, 1971, and thus one year later became ineligible to fly [as a pilot] period.
Jer
Good evening Jer
Submitted by cocodrie on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 8:00pm.
Bush was still eligible to fly as a pilot. All he had to do was put in a few hours flight time.to be current. All he needed to be certified in another type aircraft was to be familiarized by an instructor probably in a two seater. His being grounded was because of his lack of air time and had nothing to do with his eligibility or capability as a pilot.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
Good evening, cocodrie...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 8:58pm.
Are you saying an ANG pilot's failure to take the required annual physical has no bearing on his flying status? That's not my understanding.
Jer
.Hello Jer
Submitted by cocodrie on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 9:11pm.
The liberal twist on this was and is that Bush was unqualified to be a pilot. What I'm saying is that he lacked flight time to remain current so there was no reason to have the physical. Anytime prior to his discharge he could have regained current status simply by taking his physical and putting in some flight time. The dates of his last flight has no bearing on his classification as a pilot. He was a qualified pilot until the day of his discharge regardless of whether he was current or not.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
So what,
Submitted by Boudin on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 9:23pm.
If Bush missed a physical, how is that going to create jobs or enough wealth to pay for Gov spending,,,, hmmm?
Yea, I know, thats not important.
All I wanna know is how leftist fiscal policy works, like capitalism, can it work with the very same quantity of currency?
Then why use it?
I thought we were done.
Submitted by The Vet on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 9:49pm.
The post you responded to was a misreading of your original post. But just ignore that and go on about the grounding blah blah blah blah.
Except help me out here. Kindly point to one document that says he was grounded because he missed a physical. Because I lose track of all the conspiracies. I thought everyone on the left was mad because he missed some weekend duties due to a campaign.
Never mind. I went to the straight dope. Yeah, he was grounded. Wow. He shoulda been more careful. That kind of stuff can stop you from being President. I........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Poor work, strat...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 05/18/2012 - 7:48pm.
"Breitbart is to be distrusted or trusted whenever it suits your needs? That makes you untrustworthy."
A massive fallacy. Straw man argumentation. Weak logic. Unsupported conclusion. A non sequitur...as well as ad hominem. All of which makes you an ass.
Jer
jer the LIAR is pretty
Submitted by Zippy on Fri, 05/18/2012 - 10:12pm.
jer the LIAR is pretty simple.
Pretty simple to make the accusation, Zippy...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 12:35am.
How simple will it be to prove it? Show me one or more examples of my lying, please.
Jer
Jer
Submitted by stratman on Fri, 05/18/2012 - 10:32pm.
Did you or did you not believe Breitbart's explanation in the Shirley Sherrod kerfluffle?
strat...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 1:06am.
Which explanation was that? His explanation for completely misstating the time period of Sherrod's interaction with the white farmer doesn't even qualify as an explanation. And a two-minute google search prior to posting the video excerpts would have prevented the mischaracterization in the first place. The eventual 'clarification' was very brief, lacking in detail, and failed to completely resolve the confusion.
Andrew's more general explanation about his motivations--that the video clips were only designed to discredit the NAACP and not Sherrod---was disingenuous as well. They portrayed both the NAACP and Sherrod in a very negative light, as a reading of accompanying video chyrons and the reactions posted in the comment sections of Breitbart and FoxNation will attest.
But, the fact that I thought his conduct in the Sherrod matter was unprofessional doesn't mean I believe his conduct was unprofessional in all cases or in most cases. I try to let the facts speak for themselves in each case.
Jer
Flip Flop Flounder
Submitted by stratman on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 2:18am.
You were against Breitbart before you were for Breitbart.
Road trip in your car.
You'll need to be more specific, strat...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 2:45am.
I answered your question about the Sherrod matter which I don't regard as one of Andrew's finer moments. But I'll also commend anyone who doesn't buy into the "Birther" or "Born in Kenya" nonsense. If you consider that to be evidence of flip-flopping or untrustworthiness, then so be it.
Jer
Maybe if you were less dense
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 2:46am.
No-one would need to be more specific?
Unfortunately, Boudin...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 2:54am.
All of us are not blessed with your razor intellect.
Jer
flip flopping
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 2:50am.
Certainly, he can have himself portrayed in his bio for 11 years as being Kenyan born if he wishes. He wouldn't be the first Harvard Alum who used specific untruths to further a career.
I'm not saying he's born in Kenya, just making note he allowed himself to be presented as such for (I don't know if I've mentioned it) 11 years.
But that still makes him the Original Birther.
Do you really think literary agents don't get a fee for representing their clients?
I wonder if O'commie
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 2:52am.
Knows where he was born?
Cool...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 3:19am.
You can keep typing that Obama "had his literary agent
portraypresent him..." and "he can have himself portrayed..." until your fingers are numb, but that doesn't necessarily mean he authorized the misinformation or was ever aware of it:Miriam Goderich edited the text of the bio; she is now a partner at the Dystel & Goderich agency, which lists Obama as one of its current clients.
"This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me--an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote in an emailed statement to Yahoo News. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."
source.
BTW, it apparently remained in the bio for 16 years.
Jer
updated for slight editing
16 years of deception is better than 11?
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 3:22am.
Still makes him the Original Birther. And judging from your voluminous refutations, it's obviously bugging the heck out of you.
Judging from the fact you have made Obama the
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 4:05am.
Birther your tag line, it obviously has become some sort of obsession with you. Soon it will be rivaling your consuming
"Democrats Determined to Exterminate the Black Race" fixation.
Did I say "exterminate"
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 2:48pm.
It's clear from your spokeswoman the intent of Roe v. Wade was to "Limit populations that we (progressives) don't want to have too many of" -
RaceRuth Bader Ginsberg. Probably have to go all the way back to Hillary Clinton's hero, Margaret Sanger, to find anything that approaches "extermination"I don't think Democrats see "extermination" of African Americans as being in their best interest.
I'm still not going to congratulate you or your fellow progressives on your success. I'm sure you understand, you have the same problem with those who hope the President fails with his plan to morph us into a Weimer Republic.
And I know it's tough for you to stomach that now, two members of that august body of Harvard Alumni have taken liberty within diversity to embellish their resume's. Those phony claims have now come back to haunt them.
Maybe "slaughter" and "genocide" were your
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 5:49pm.
preferred terms as opposed to "exterminate", but I'm still not going to congratulate you for it.
Jer
➚ Best of intentions, huh?
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 6:38pm.
But the results are the same.
Progressives expect little from human beings, but they've realize the effectiveness of applied psychology.
Better go extend some unemployment benefits. Some of your voters might get off the couch. You know what that leads to.
Saw an article the other day about an Octodad. 30 kids by 11 women. He might be 30. Wants the government to help him with his child support.
You're a lawyer, and you can't admit such behavior is predictable when progressives encourage fathers to walk away?
Building a constituency one layoff at a time.
Jer
Submitted by stratman on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 3:37am.
Good grief.
Even if you do not believe Obama has narcissistic tendencies, let alone overt narcissism, by what pretzel logic do you dismiss Obama, or any new writer, not wanting to read and keep a copy of his big announcement?
The big ego of Obama's needs frequent feedings. The literary announcement made a tasty meal. Obama was ready at the table, napkin tucked neatly into his shirt, fork in one hand, knife in the other. Bank on it.
Let's just say
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 3:46am.
Let's just say Jer takes a "wide stance" when it comes to reasonable doubt.
Jer likely relies---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 6:05am.
on 'preponderance of evidence' rather than shooting for 'beyond a reasonable doubt'.
It is far easier for a lefty on a conservative site to claim that the preponderance of evidence is on his side of the argument, than to get his head around why conservatives reasonably doubt the veracity of his leftward slanted presentations. :o)
MD
AKA...
Submitted by stratman on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:42pm.
Jer believes what he wants to believe, including disregarding human nature to maintain his porous construct.
I think we are all saying the same thing.
Correction...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 12:28am.
Jer believes in the application of logic and common sense which leads him to consider and accept the possibility and even the probability that Obama was unaware of the literary agent's admitted mistaken biographical entry notwithstanding the length of time the error remained unaddressed.
That said, I'm certainly not excluding the possibility he had knowledge of the Kenyan birth reference and remained silent about it for whatever reason, but I don't believe that to be the most likely explanation.
And you are free, of course, to believe whatever you wish.
Jer
But But But...
Submitted by The Vet on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 12:38am.
You do believe he wrote the creepy poem about looking at the amber stains in his dad's underwear? Wait, no, his DAD, shows him the dad's underwear, side by side with his own, and compares the amber stains. And then makes him smell them.
Pop takes another shot, neat,
Points out the same amber
Stain on his shorts that I’ve got on mine, and
Makes me smell his smell, coming
From me;....
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/18/us/politics/18poems.html?_r=1
Jer: OK. The Vet:
Submitted by stratman on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 1:06am.
Jer:
OK.
The Vet:
I thought this was about Frank Martian Davis.
Sick! I need brain bleach after reading that. Not good, dude.
OMG
Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 8:52am.
Yet another reason to be amazed and disgusted that he is our president.
Look in the Wayback Machine ...
Submitted by NL207 on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 12:52am.
The Dystel website went through several revisions. All of them referred to an Obama Kenyan birth until Obama announced he was a candidate for President. Then suddenly, the Dystel site reports Obama born in Hawaii.
http://web.archive.org/web/20070403190001/http://www.dystel.com/clientli...
If you think this was the product of clerical error by Dystel, then I have a great deal on a toll bridge for you ....
Toll bridge? No thanks...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 1:27am.
But, any leads on a new troll bridge? The one I'm under never received its infrastructure repair stimulus money.
Jer
Superb Find, NL207
Submitted by stratman on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 1:41am.
Obama announced his candidacy for the 2008 Presidential election on Saturday, February 10th, 2007.
The Dystel website changed the location of Obama's birth from Kenya to Hawaii by the April 21st, 2007 revision. This was the 15th revision of the Dystel site since the original Obama listing on November 3rd, 2006 according to the Wayback Machine, so it's not like the web site lay fallow without attention to additions, deletions or corrections.
The bio listed Obama as growing up in Indonesia, Hawaii, and Chicago. Yet, Obama didn't go to Chicago until 1985 - two years after graduating from Columbia and 3 years before enrolling in Harvard Law School. The Dystel website finally corrects this "error" in the May 17th, 2007 revision, more than three weeks after correcting his place of birth and over three months after announcing his candidacy for the Presidency.
The Dystel website corrects it when he runs for Presdident.
Submitted by The Vet on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 6:59am.
When he had a campaign staff who sole job was to promote and protect the guy running for office. Their first action (if they are any good at all). Google the hell out of this guy and make sure there ain't no surprises. I am betting it was the campaign people that caught the error and had it corrected.
That is why a guy was able to fill an entire book, BHO is an Amateur. And not very smart either. It would not surprise me in the slightest that BHO did not know there was a bio of him running around the planet saying he was born in Kenya.
Don't get me wrong.
Submitted by The Vet on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 12:13pm.
This stinks to high heaven from start to finish. That bio on the website and their brochures, it looks an awful lot like the one that goes on the dust covers. The Vet used to read books prior to Al Gore inventing the internet and the dust covers always had a little bio-blurby thing about the author on either the inside fold of the back of the dustcover or right on the back of the dustcover itself. I would be very interested to see the dustcovers of his books prior to the correction when he started to run for President. It would be awful hard to claim he missed the bio on the dustcovers. Authors almost surely get multiple copies of their books when they come out. And what will he look at when that box of books that he wrote arrives? Read the whole book he just finished writing? Read the publisher info at the beginning? Or look at his picture and bio on the dust jacket?
It is very possible he gave the publisher that very bio. He wanted to seem exotic. But if he knew, it makes the whole birth certificate episode all the more strange. Why waffle about releasing the 2nd birth certificate? After all, the first one is also a birth certificate you can get from registering a birth. That is, a mother gives birth outside the state for whatever reason, then returns and registers the birth later. Why play the birth certificate game he played knowing this thing was floating out there to be found?
And if he did not deliberately give the Kenyan birth info, how in the hell does someone just get the Kenyan birth thing out of the blue? Lots of people have one or both foreign born parents. No one just assumes their children were born in the same country as the parent(s).
And if it was a mistake on the publisher, and he missed it through all the brochures, and websites, and whatever other mailings went out then, that says a lot about this self-involved narcissistic amateur.
Something happened here.
Submitted by stratman on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 3:55pm.
Something happened here. Obama gave initial approval, later on learned of it and let it slide, the agent or people in charge of the brochure/web site were slow to change the data, or Obama was completely out of the loop.
We know the brochure/web site people made numerous changes to the bios, so the latency on correcting Obama's information was not due to neglect from webmaster inaction.
We know Obama's bio was revised more than once before either his location of birth and locations of growing up were corrected. It is also true that there were revisions performed on the brochure/web site between the corrections in his place of birth and locations for growing up. The timing of these revisions compared to when his first book was published is unknown to me, but the bio reflects his first book before the change was made to Chicago as a place he grew up in. Maybe the person responsible for changes to Obama's bio finally read Obama's book and figured out to delete the Chicago reference.
Human nature as it is, even if not a narcissist, it is more probable than not that a first time writer, especially one who hasn't even been published yet, would eagerly read a published bio. New writer looking for recognition and some positive strokes, informed at some point that they are being promoted in a bio blurb on a web site and/or brochure, and wouldn't want to read it? Highly unlikely. And if that new writer has narcissistic tendencies -- virtually certain they will seek out and read that bio.
The question I have is why did it take two revisions, separated by several other webs site/brochure changes, to revise obviously incorrect information? You would think Obama would have everything revised "properly" the first time.
My thought is Obama knew of the incorrect information early on if not from the first publishing. He then forgot about the incorrect information and the revisions were eventually delegated to someone else to shore up once he declared his campaign for the Presidency in 2007. That person or persons instructed to proof and correct Obama's public data required more than one go around due to inadequate or incorrect information on Obama which eventually was supplemented/correct as well. Otherwise, the two aforementioned corrections would have been done simultaneously, barring outright incompetence or carelessness.
Unless Obama actually was born in Kenya, I believe the false Kenya and Chicago references were a polishing of Obama's credentials for publicity sake, ie to sell his book. Some call it literary license. Others call it lying.
Vet...regarding dust covers and other matters related to
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 6:35pm.
Obama literary bio:
4) When Dreams From My Father was published in 1995, the original dust jacket states "his father's departure from Hawaii when Barack was only two", a clear insinuation that Obama was born in Hawaii. Nowhere in any material, either in the book or jacket copy, does it state that Obama was born in Kenya. The reason this is important is because if, as Breitbart posits, Obama wanted to appear more worldly, it would be of far greater significance to write that on a dust jacket, which would be seen by the general populace and the media, rather than simply on a pamphlet going to a few hundred publishing industry insiders....
7) Sometime after the publication of Dreams From My Father, Obama changed literary agents, switching from Acton & Dystsel (which became Dystel & Goderich) to Washington D.C. lawyer and agent Robert Barnett (who represents many politicians, including Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and Sarah Palin). It stands to reason that, if Obama left the Dystel umbrella, they would have no need to revise his biography, as their only title with him was out of print and they would not be representing any future works.
8) Dreams From My Father was republished following Obama's 2004 speech at the Democratic National Convention, widely seen as the first time he achieved national prominence. Dreams From My Father then became a massive No. 1 bestseller, nearly a decade after its original publication. Crown, which originally published Dreams in 1995, still retained the rights to the book, which meant it was not necessary to renegotiate a contract with the Dystel agency.
9) In 2007, according to Breitbart, the Dystel website finally updated Obama's biography to state his correct birthplace of Hawaii. It was in 2007 that Obama announced his candidacy for President, and began to more heavily scrutinized. Hence the Dystel website finally updating the biography of Obama, who had not been an active client of theirs since the mid-1990s...
The above and more found here.
Jer
Pinter does not mention the
Submitted by stratman on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 9:16pm.
Pinter does not mention the Chicago mistake nor the fact that there were several revisions of the web site before both the birth and upbringing locations were corrected. Why weren't all corrections made at the same time? Who made the corrections. Why did they make the corrections (motivated by what/whom?)?
Rumors of Obama's "Muslim" religions and radicalization in Madrassas go back to 2004. The emergence of the Birther rumors was in April 2008 and created by Hilary Clinton supporters during the Primaries.
What I would like to know
Submitted by Boudin on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 9:41pm.
Is why the leftist think birthers are nut's, considering the constant bs that keeps popping up. And I predict it's going to continue. Can you say Courage!
Ha!
Submitted by stratman on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 10:00pm.
Watch the Left have seizures over this.
Popping plenty of popcorn for the show.
Rest assured, as long as Dr. Corsi, Dr. Orly Taitz and
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 10:24pm.
Sheriff Arpaio are leading the "Birther" charge, the popcorn business will be booming.
Jer
Obama bio...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 10:01pm.
Not to excuse the Chicago reference, but I believe it was a comparatively minor gaffe. There are clearly loose ends to this latest chapter of the ongoing saga which hopefully someone will directly ask Obama to tie up at some point. I still doubt the Kenya item was submitted by Obama--and I can envision a careless editor confusing Obama with his father of the same name and who was in fact Kenyan--but I will concede the 'he noticed the mistake but acquiesced to promote an air of international panache' angle may be more plausible than I was originally willing to grant. On the other hand, there were newspaper articles which had already been published and widely circulated in 1990 listing Hawaii as Obama's birthplace. That argues against a deliberate intent to disseminate flatly contradictory biographical details.
Pinter's explanation below regarding the motivation and timing of the corrections seems reasonable, although it doesn't completely resolve the "Chicago" issue:
"It was in 2007 that Obama announced his candidacy for President, and began to more heavily scrutinized. Hence the Dystel website finally updating the biography of Obama, who had not been an active client of theirs since the mid-1990s..."
Jer
I, for one,
Submitted by Boudin on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 10:14pm.
Am stunned you believe this way Jer.
I thought for sure you this might make you might acknowledge, Obama aint the Saint you think he is. Sure fooled me, guess that ol Obama is just a victim of circumstance,,, again, eh?
What in particular, Boudin...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 10:26pm.
did you find stunning about my post?
Jer
Not Sure Asking Obama Will Help
Submitted by stratman on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 10:25pm.
I don't think we will ever know the full story. This will become part of the lore of Obama - a footnote to a footnote. While it may add to the character assessments of the involved individuals, it is inconsequenstial compared to the breadth and depth of known history and stated future plans of Obama.
You don't think it would possibly fill in some gaps
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 10:34pm.
left open by the lack of vetting during the earlier campaign? I'm talking about a series of specific, pointed questions with follow-ups, not just one random request for a comment.
Jer
Jer
Submitted by stratman on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 11:25pm.
What specific pointed questions do you have in mind?
strat...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 11:43pm.
Well, for starters, how about the ones you have raised in connection with the discrepancies in his literary bio?
Jer
That's All?
Submitted by stratman on Wed, 05/23/2012 - 12:09am.
Here I was ready for:
(translation)
Barack Hussein Barry Soetero Obama ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 05/23/2012 - 12:17am.
is a discrepancy.
A very serious one.
MD
Even Andrew Breitbart on
Submitted by ckc1227 on Fri, 05/18/2012 - 6:35pm.
Even Andrew Breitbart on whose site this latest revelation was published, to his credit, rejected the Kenyan birth nonsense and believed Obama was born in Hawaii.
Jer
Which has zero bearing on whether he actually was born in Kenya.
Well, if you believe Breitbart never researched the issue and
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 05/18/2012 - 7:15pm.
that his opinion was meaningless, then I guess not.
Jer
And that's your point?
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Fri, 05/18/2012 - 7:25pm.
Your point is that it's Breitbart's fault that the curtain is pulled back and Barack Obama is exposed as the Original Birther?
I'm fine with Obama having been born in America, but he paid money to be the very first Birther.
I'm as ready as you to celebrate President Barack Hussein (Birther) Obama.
Of course, he won't be answering to all his constituents who impugn and demean Birthers (like Barack Hussein Birther Obama), it turns out the President must be one of them there idiot hayseeds too.
He is absolutely right.
Submitted by NeoKong on Thu, 05/17/2012 - 9:37pm.
To go back fifty years on Romney with blanket coverage of his childhood and then completely censor everything from before Obama's Senate career is the height of collusion. Their slogan should be "The Washington Post. All Obama. All the time."
Not to get into it too much but the ahhhh....interesting story on the front page of the Drudge Report today is absolutely,completely and totally off limits to almost every single news outlet unless they are discrediting it.
I'm not saying it is accurate but now it has been blurbed out by his publisher, his own wife, an aunt, and several people from that far away exotic land that a certain right-wing blogger/cable news pundit (ahem) made a very determined effort to shut down discussion of on Twitter today. I don't think we need to say who but for a moment there it was like David Axelrod talking.
My point is I guess that we have been fed many narratives in the last few years that extricate Obama from certain acquaintances only to find out later that the exact opposite was true.
For example. That guy from Obama's neighborhood that he "barely knew" turned out later to be the guy who launched his state senate career from inside his home.Their wives worked together and Obama and he also worked in the same building.
What I am getting at is the more we find out about him the more all his little narratives unravel just like the composite girlfriend story.
If there has been one consistent theme to Obama's past is that it is almost alway never what he claims it was and if to this day people are still suspicious of him it is...because of him.
Dr K has been on fire lately.
Submitted by Texndoc on Thu, 05/17/2012 - 10:40pm.
I saw his critique of our national Attorney General as a "political hack" on O'Reilly.
Appalling Double Standard
Submitted by Samaritan01 on Thu, 05/17/2012 - 10:50pm.
The worst double-standard I see here is network media news pretending to be superior than "reporting" from the National Enquirer.
Rev Wright vs Joseph Smith
Submitted by alvin on Fri, 05/18/2012 - 12:15am.
The equivalent to Rev Wright is not Romney's bullying, but Romney's religion.. To quote - " If the Romney people want to start talking about Rev. Wright then the candidates religions are on the table. And Rev.Wright is going to look sane compared to Joseph Smith" Romney doesn't want to be asked about magic underwear.
HIs comment could be:
“I’m not familiar precisely with exactly what I believe, but I stand by what I believe whatever it was.”
You do know, Alveen, that Smith died in 1844?
Submitted by UpNorth on Fri, 05/18/2012 - 12:33am.
So, Romney never sat in Joseph Smith's church for 20 years, and never heard anything that passed his lips, unlike Baracka and Rev. Wright? Did Joseph Smith baptize Romney's children?
Nice try, Slick. .
Actually, UpNorth...Romney has been sitting in Smith's
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 05/18/2012 - 12:58am.
church for over 60 years, and I am confident Mitt is very familiar with most if not all of the writings and prophesies of the Mormon founder.
I only hope that neither Obama's nor Romney's campaign--nor the potential voters--will suffer the distractions of inappropriate assaults on the religious beliefs of the candidates.
Jer
➚ Couldn't happen
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Fri, 05/18/2012 - 1:10am.
The Obama Campaign will be absolutely respectful, as will the Romney camp.
But I've been wrong before.
I have a feeling you will be again.
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 05/18/2012 - 1:36am.
Jer
Come on, Jer. Take your wake-up pill.
Submitted by UpNorth on Fri, 05/18/2012 - 11:43am.
You know what I meant. Perhaps my thought wasn't "nuanced" enough? How's about this? Obama sat and listened to Rev. Wright spit out his hate for 20 years and never heard a word. Romney sat in Smith's church, but never heard Smith speak a word. And Joseph Smith still didn't baptize Romney's kids.
Seriously Alvin? You don't
Submitted by G L on Fri, 05/18/2012 - 11:57am.
Seriously Alvin? You don't see a difference between religious ritual - all of which is peculiar, even in what we consider main-stream religions - and black liberation theology?
Black liberation theology is, by definition, based on Communism and populist racism.
So, nice try, but it would be hard for reasonable people to find the equivalence you've proffered here.
Romney's Strategy for Losing the Election
Submitted by berlet98 on Fri, 05/18/2012 - 2:37am.
Romney's Strategy for Losing the Election
With Barack Hussein Obama’s candidacy on the ropes thanks mainly to his ineptness and far-out ideology, Mitt Romney could very well be America’s next president if he really wanted to be.
Apparently, he doesn’t.
Our economy is stuck in the doldrums, the unemployment rate stands at 8.1%, Obama’s “evolution” on homosexuals marrying other homosexuals alienated what remained of his support among Christians and other traditionalists, and now it’s been reported that his former literary agent said he was “born in Kenya” and his old spiritual adviser has ratted him out.
Had Mitt Romney written the script for his becoming the 45th president of the United States, he couldn’t have done any better.
Yet, Romney is on the verge of blowing it by taking the high road, the same road to ignominious defeat travelled by Sen. John McCain in 2008.
Four years ago, McCain opted against winning the presidency by telling it like it is about the character of his Democrat opponent and instead ran an ultra-principled race devoid of any references to Obama’s character or his toxic past.
He thereby removed the most potent evidence that the junior senator from Illinois was an extremist who would cause great harm to the country. That evidence, combined with Obama’s lack of experience, qualifications, and moral rectitude, could have resulted in an implosion of the presumptuous Obama campaign and given the U.S. a war hero and seasoned statesman as president in lieu of a “neighborhood organizer.”
McCain chose to ignore Obama’s tainted background, his close associations with extremist domestic terrorists such as Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, and his 20 years in sitting in the pews of black racist Rev. Jeremiah “God Damn America” Wright’s Trinity United Church while Wright spewed his hateful venom against white people and our country.
McCain lost, America lost, and the United States was saddled with the most left wing, most divisive, most incompetent, most pro-abortion, and the most disastrous leader in our history, Jimmy Carter not excepted.
2012 is shaping up to be what Yogi would have called déjà vu all over again. . .
(Read more at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=24134.)
Please. Read my blog. Read it. Go there. Now.
Submitted by The Vet on Fri, 05/18/2012 - 7:10am.
No. Read it. Read my blog. Please. Why won't no one go read my blog? Please. I beg you. Do it.
What do you mean you won't go and read my blog? Fine. I will post this boring schtick FIVE FRIGGIN TIMES IN FIVE DIFFERENT NB BLOG POSTS! Screeeeeeeeeeew you all.
Born in Kenya
Submitted by kiwikit on Fri, 05/18/2012 - 5:30am.
was used in the bio from 1991 through 2007 and now they say it was a TYPO! It
took 16 years to notice it! Now please tell us whether BO got tuition in his elite schools based on his being born on foregn soil! As shown in this 2012 campaign, BO says whatever is convenient to make him look good; truth is disposable. Best
campaign should show his promises in '08 and how well he's fulfilled them. Anyone who believes anything he says is either out of touch or a fool.
Of course none of this matters...
Submitted by MacWell on Fri, 05/18/2012 - 5:37am.
because we the people have remained the silent majority. We've allowed America to be taken over by the leftists/Marxists. We the people sat back and allowed one woman to throw G_d out of our children's classrooms, and so began the decline. Americans have allowed these haters of this great country to advance their causes-De-Jour out of a misplaced (feeling) of fairness. Do any of you now think that being fair was a good enough reason to allow the destruction of America? We the people are the ones to blame, not the Marxists.
Until we get our collective butts out of our easy chairs, turn off American Idol and rush to the polling places in November, America will continue to go the way of all other countries that refuse to see facts and instead depend on (feelings) to dictate our decisions.
just sayin
If the Left wants to play the game
Submitted by katiejane on Fri, 05/18/2012 - 7:22am.
and say that the history of the LDS is equivalent to Rev Wright's bigotry they perhaps need to accept that the whole black theology, black separatism, Nation of Islam, Black Panthers racisist bigotry would fit nicely into that discussion.
The right isn't allowed use of those things
Submitted by ohio granny on Fri, 05/18/2012 - 11:21am.
The right can't use any of those things because the double standard is alive and well. Why does any of the independent PAC's listen to the Romney people? Isn't it illegal to coordinate?
McCain lost mostly because he tried to be too nice so as not to be called a racist. Does Romney want to lose the same way? He will be accused of being a racist, homophobic, misogynistic rich man anyway.
Get with it, Mitt!
Submitted by SaguaroJack on Fri, 05/18/2012 - 9:05am.
Our guys keep playing in kid gloves while the other side brings knives, chains and guns to the fight. Surely Mitt knows that we're up against a vicious, America hating machine that merits no such approach?
Good grief.
Race War and the P.C. Media
Submitted by berlet98 on Sat, 05/19/2012 - 5:54pm.
Race War and the P.C. Media
DrudgeReport.com’s Friday headline, “Race Related Hate Crimes Up, Coincide with Obama Presidency”, seemed to confirm what most people who follow the news already knew, that since the election of Barack Hussein Obama, incidents of blacks attacking whites had increased wildly, maybe exponentially.
Not so.
First of all, it’s difficult to determine numbers since the MSM rarely notes the race of the alleged criminals, a description that could aid in their apprehension. Secondly, much of the media don’t bother to report black racist crimes at all.
In any event, the linked article from ABCNews referred to the reaction of “white supremacist groups” to Obama’s presidency, not to the proliferation of black violence.
Indeed, ABC never saw fit to mention that proliferation, instead focusing exclusively on the increase in the number of white militias–from 150 to 1,274 over three years–who are incensed over “changes in demographics” and resort to violence, while never citing a single instance of that violence. (http://abcn.ws/LjAC3H)
Correction: “what most people who follow the news already knew” should read, “what most people are oblivious of” since the mainstream media, often with the complicity of law enforcement, has long been engaged in a concerted effort to conceal the extent of black hate crimes.
There are various reasons for the MSM’s failure to fulfill their fundamental journalistic responsibilities to the public of reporting news objectively and honestly.
Some in the media claim they are striving to avoid stirring up dissension, although they had no problem distorting facts related to the George Zimmerman-Trayvon Martin case and causing nationwide upheavals with their proven misrepresentations.
Others claim black on white crime isn’t inspired by hatred of Caucasians but by poverty and discrimination which, in turn, somehow inspires blacks to attack whites in droves even though worse poverty and discrimination existed years ago and didn’t effect the mayhem we see today.
What most of the lamestreamers won’t admit is that they tailor much of the news to benefit Democrats and, especially, Barack Obama.
Featuring story after story involving black people assaulting, robbing, maiming, and murdering white people might awaken Americans to the reality that there is a one-sided race war in progress in America which could negatively impact Obama’s re-election chances.
Of course, First Lady Michelle Obama is on record as saying that every negative critique of her husband must incorporate a racist component, an odd opinion in light of Obama’s proclamation of a “post-racial America”, and an opinion that puts a damper on any implied criticism and automatically labels the critic a racist.
Lady O’s tactic is a variation on the theory that a great offense trumps any defense.
Noted African-American economist/philosopher/professor/prolific author Thomas Sowell is a keen observer of social trends in the United States. He is also fully cognizant of our race war and often goes on the offensive to illustrate the perils of that ongoing conflict. . .
(Read more at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=24164.)
Hey, berlet98
Submitted by Timothy H on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 4:30am.
If I wanted to read your blog, I'd go to your blog. Do you have to post it here too? I'm all for self promotion, but damn......just shoot us a "I wrote about this the other day on my blog, here's a link!" and move on.
I'm a blogger and a featured columnist for a Top 5 sports website, but I don't drop half of my article and a link into every somewhat related stories comment thread.
Dear God, man! This is not the way to get regular readers. It's the way to piss off potential readers.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. -Albert Einstein
And for blonde:Some days it just doesn't pay to chew through the restraint. -Timothy H
Timothy ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 05/20/2012 - 6:12am.
Though berlet often has interesting posts, I agree completely with what you say.
Whatever you do, don't tell Jer that I have come around to his way of thinking on this issue. :o)
MD
Matthew...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 9:22pm.
If not for several conservatives getting wise to and calling out berlet's flagrant spamming lately, what are the odds you would have 'come around to my way of thinking'? I'm guessing about the same as your voting for Obama this November.
:-)
Jer
Used to follow Jer around
Submitted by creekrat on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 10:15pm.
After being chastized early on by Jer, and rightfully so at the time, added him to my buddy list and followed him for some time. Rarely ever now, Jer and the others will never see it any way but the way they do, any more than he could change any of our right winger beliefs, or minds.
I'm no longer a newbie but Jer still has double the time posting and has not once that I can remember fully agreed with any one of us or changed his mindset in any significate way.
Often wonder why Jer, Jason, Balboa, Vandamage and the like hang around here, I'm convinced they love the argument. One thay will not find so challenging on lib forums.
I have several aquaintenences similar....love the argument, but will never see things any other way.
You can count on them taking the road to the left nearly every time, ignore the indefensible, and jump on any post or news that involves Bush or Palin, just as the trolls do on this site.
I place it in the category of ignoring the forrest for the trees.
Well, creekrat...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 10:54pm.
All too often when I mention areas of agreement with conservatives or post criticisms of libs/Dems, I get jumped on for "trying to curry favor with the NB majority" and for portraying myself as "the good/reasonable lib"--or else those posts are completely ignored. So, I'm damned if I do and damned If I don't. Maybe I'll just summarize the points in a forum some time, and folks can choose to believe or disbelieve me.
But I'll tell you this: I think I could post several pages of right-leaning sentiments followed by one brief remark slightly sympathetic to Obama and that would be enough to get me hammered as a far-left troll.
Jer