MSNBC and ABC Eager to Herald ‘Vindication’ for Obama in Qadhafi’s Death
It’s no surprise MSNBC hosts were quick to see “vindication” for President Barack Obama in the death of Moammar Qadhafi, but ABC’s George Stephanopoulos and Jake Tapper were just as eager Thursday night to make sure viewers knew the White House was gloating.
“The President was careful not to take too much credit in the Rose Garden,” fill-in World News anchor George Stephanopoulos noted before presuming that “behind the scenes White House officials have to be feeling some sense of vindication.”
Tapper confirmed “they do. They see this as a vindication for Obama's foreign policy....which is more international cooperation, smaller footprint, more focused applications of U.S. power.” This played out in Libya, “using the unique capabilities of the U.S. and then stepping back and letting NATO take control. All of this part of the Obama foreign policy and they do feel vindicated.”
Neither the CBS Evening News nor NBC Nightly News characterized Qaddafi’s death as “vindication” for Obama’s policies.
Thursday afternoon, in the 3 PM EDT hour, MSNBC’s Martin Bashir basked in Obama’s triumph over conservative criticism: “After putting up with months of criticism, the accusation was that he led from behind, he didn’t know what he was doing. Isn’t this the complete vindication of his strategy?” Washington Post editorial writer Jonathan Capehart unhesitatingly agreed: “I would think so.”
Opposite Stephanopoulos and Tapper in the 6 PM EDT hour, MSNBC’s left-wing activist/Obama-phile Al Sharpton fretted during his PoliticsNation program:
Whether you applaud this brutal end or not, today’s events are clearly a vindication of the President’s policy in Libya. The dictator’s gone and no Americans was killed. But today in a statement after statement, Republicans barely made mention of President Obama...
From the Thursday, October 20 World News with Diane Sawyer on ABC:
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: With Qadhafi’s death today, three men responsible for thousands of American deaths have been killed in almost as many months: Osama bin Laden in May, Anwar al-Awlaki in September and now Qadhafi, all by or backed by American force. I want to bring in Jake Tapper from the White House now. And Jake, the President was careful not to take too much credit in the Rose Garden, but behind the scenes White House officials have to be feeling some sense of vindication.
JAKE TAPPER: They do. They see this as a vindication for Obama’s foreign policy. One senior White House official telling me this evening, bin Laden, Awlaki, Qadhafi, all met their demise in some fashion because of decisions President Obama made. It's part of the larger Obama foreign policy which is more international cooperation, smaller footprint, more focused applications of U.S. power. They said that, al-Qaeda, it’s been very, very targeted, the attacks the U.S. has made on al-Qaeda. And Libya, using the unique capabilities of the U.S. and then stepping back and letting NATO take control. All of this part of the Obama foreign policy and they do feel vindicated, George.
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pro summery execution!
Submitted by Injest on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 4:01am.
Who woulda thought the left would be pro summery execution!
Credid for what?
Submitted by TBAR on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 4:07am.
I fail to see how a military coup in an African country translates to kudos for an American pResident.
“The President was careful
Submitted by kg on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 10:16am.
“The President was careful not to take too much credit"
Did you notice it took almost 30 seconds for the WH to announce a drone strike right before they captured him.
LOL, Now NATO says they didn't know Qaddafi was there.
"DumbAssity of Dope"
I'm gonna go out on a limb
Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 4:19am.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that Boy Barry didn't have a friggin' clue about this until somebody either told him, or made him sit down and agree to whatever the hell was going on.....................but that's NOT going to stop this abject and totally sophmoric poser from strutting out there - in his faggy psuedo-macho stride - and try and act like he was sitting there in Command Central One - orchestrating the action.
Kinda like what he did during the hurricane............................
Good morning Killa
Submitted by cocodrie on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 4:43am.
You got him pegged right. Right down to his weak little bones.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
only thing this sordid affair exposed...
Submitted by Kuso Jiji on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 4:44am.
was the hypocracy of the left. didn't hear so much as a single peep from the code pinkos or any of the other claptraps on the left when obama entered us into what can only be described as another country's civil war. and now they are all giddy about it. well with the except of Nation of Islam's wacked out leader, the Minister Louie Farracon.
Way to go BOB
Submitted by scottyusmc on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 6:01am.
You are becoming an even more efficient killer than GW could have ever hoped to be. Guess with all the support in the media, its easy to send those drones over to lay waste to other human beings simply by pushing a button...
Already know that unarmed drones are spying on the OWS folks; so when do you arm them and take them out???
Don't bet on it
Submitted by jon_torlin on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 6:37am.
Don't bet on it, the OWS are his unformed army, he's pledge his support behind them already. If things don't go his way, you can be sure they'll be utilized for something.
What's funny is how the LSM keep praising this manchild when all he's done was enact a dictatorship in this country basically by saying "screw the rules, I can do whatever I want" and has done so. The troubling part is that Congress is letting him do it, even if we have a Republican controlled House. Boehner has already shown us that he's been afflicted with Spinus Pastalitus, so no help from him. Cantor's apparently got his own designs, no help there either.
I'm even more troubled that even Rubio was praising this.
The ends do not justify the means that were taken, and I would never thank this petulant farce for it.
-Jon
congress did try
Submitted by dmacleo on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 8:06am.
the lawsuit over war powers act and libya was dismissed by judge yesterday saying congress had no standing or something.
same stuff every judge says when any court action is brought against obama.
Interesting timing
Submitted by jon_torlin on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 8:56am.
I hadn't heard about this, but this would be a real convenient time to make a judgment like that, just after the news of the big nosed wonder's death, all to defend the big eared wonder's actions.
I know Congress did try, but they didn't try hard enough, what was it, condemning the action, but still voted to fund it?
-Jon
ABC on Bush's "vindication" with Saddam?
Submitted by Tim Graham on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 6:28am.
“There’s not a good deal for Iraqis to be happy about at the moment. Life is still very chaotic, beset by violence in many cases, huge shortages. In some respects, Iraqis keep telling us life is not as stable for them as it was when Saddam Hussein was in power.”
– ABC’s Peter Jennings during a prime-time special on December 14, the day Saddam’s capture by American forces was announced.
“What happens to Saddam Hussein now becomes an international political problem for this administration in two ways: First, Saddam Hussein was at the heart of Iraqi politics for 30 years really. He was President since 1979, but really in power before then. And for about 15 of those years the United States had an interesting relationship, to say the least, with the Iraqi government. Secretary Rumsfeld was over in Baghdad meeting with Saddam Hussein years ago. There are allegations that the United States provided weapons to Saddam Hussein’s regime during the Iran-Iraq war. And all that could spill out in a big show trial.”
– White House correspondent Terry Moran during ABC’s live coverage at about 8:10 a.m. EST on December 14, about an hour after Saddam’s arrest was announced.
“Could this trial be very embarrassing to the United States? We supported him for so long. We gave him some of the instruments that he used to terrorize his own people. Could it be embarrassing for the United States?”
– ABC’s Charles Gibson to NYU law professor Noah Feldman on Good Morning America, December 15.
Chris Bury: “Saddam Hussein has not always been America’s enemy, and as Nightline correspondent Deborah Amos reports, that might prove embarrassing in any trial.”
Deborah Amos: “The trial of Saddam Hussein will not be cheap – more than $100 million for the investigation and prosecution in an Iraqi court. Saddam’s capture is a tremendous success, but a tribunal has certain risks....A public hand shake in 1983 by President Reagan’s special envoy, Donald Rumsfeld, led to secret supplies to Iraq’s military and a tilt toward Iraq against the Islamic fundamentalists of Iran. Saddam could use the trial to turn the tables on his former allies.”
– ABC’s Nightline, December 16.
And don't forget where ABC was on Saddam earlier that year: On the March 7 "Good Morning America," co-host Diane Sawyer passed along that "I read this morning that he’s [Saddam’s] also said the love that the Iraqis have for him is so much greater than Americans feel for their president because he’s been loved for 35 years, he says, the whole 35 years."
The barackster sure likes
Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 6:29am.
The barackster sure likes assassinations, death squads and domestic as well as foreign spying.
I can see him now prancing around and preening himself and singing 'I'm too sexy".
obama's death squad
Submitted by MidAmerica on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 6:49am.
What chance was there for military failure in Libya with the United States combined with Europeans determined to take out a third world dictator?
For a man who ranted against Bush's cowboy image obama is turning our military into a worldwide roaming death squad. No attempt at capture and justice before a court. One of obama's favorite diplomatic tools is a bullet to the head.
But to be fair, at least obama doesn't pour water on their faces.
That old saying
Submitted by jon_torlin on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 7:15am.
As the old saying goes, "Dead men tell no tales."
-Jon
Mission Accomplished!
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 7:48am.
The MSM is Obama's banner. I'm sure everything in Libya will go just peachy.
On a side note, I couldn't believe that ABC is running with this story today: Car Company Gets U.S. Loan, Builds Cars In Finland
Here's the link:
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/car-company-us-loan-builds-cars-finland/st...
I would normally use Rich Text Editor and make this post look spiffy, but I get a malware warning when I try to use that feature.
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
This Was the Hildabeast's Gambit
Submitted by JustAl on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 8:13am.
No doubt at the insistence of her "ass istant" Huma with such strong ties to the muslim brotherhood. Had it been a week long blitzkrieg resulting in the capture of the "Q" she'd have made it the center piece of her campaign to replace the boy blunder.
Now she will just have to resort to plan "B". If Hussein has half a brain he'll step aside peacefully, and quickly. Nobody crosses the Clinton machine twice and gets away with it.
waterboarding
Submitted by ron on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 8:28am.
will not be tolerated by this administration. that is torture. we just kill'em and get it over with.
Again, does anybody doubt Obama makes Cheney look like
Submitted by merly1 on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 8:29am.
Mother Teresa? The brutal killing of a country's leader, apparently made possible after a US drone
stopped his convoy. I am amazed that Obama would be a leader who could kill with such extreme
prejudice, but perhaps we just needed a Chicago politician for this type of war ;o) As others point out, I am
more amazed at the tolerance of the left for this aggressive killing of our citizens and enemies alike--no arrest, no trials, simply justice thru brutal killings. The left's hypocrisy is truly as wide as the Grand Canyon, remembering the days of concern over warrantless wiretapping or waterboarding...........
OK Gadhfi's gone but...
Submitted by okiehawk44 on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 8:41am.
please no "nation building" -- if we start hearing that again I'm gonna bust.
Let the Libyans rebuild their own country in their own way and on their own schedule -- butt out America you're a financial basket case anyway.
Are they really so sure?
Submitted by c5then on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 9:01am.
Is the summery execution of a dictator the way to begin a democratically elected government?
We know what happened when they tried it in France. It didn't go so well.
What message does this send to the factions that are vying for power in the newley created vacuum? The most powerful wins? Those with the guns can do whatever they want?
I don't know who is playing the roll of Robspeirre in Lybia, but I do see that the Muslim Brotherhood is ready to step in and play the roll of Napoleon when things start to settle down.
Madison and Jefferson and Franklin built a Republic - Roberts killed it!
How they are acting
Submitted by jon_torlin on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 9:22am.
I'm not a little surprised about how these "rebels" are acting, which is amounting to little more than animals, jackals even, going after a prime target. He even surrendered, and yet they just killed him outright. Not buying the idea that it was an accident or anything but I agree, it was a summary execution.
It just goes to show those people acting like animals, well, hell, call them what they are, nothing more than animals with guns and explosives.
And speaking of summary executions, which are by definition illegal, I think it's safe to say that DuhOne has been ordering them regardless of the legality of it with the others like bin Laden, al Alwaki, and etc.
-Jon
I think Lybia will fall into
Submitted by ForeverOnTheRight on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 9:24am.
I think Lybia will fall into chaos and civil war and obama's "vindication" will disappear like mist in the noon day sun. MSNBC is foolish to "count the chickens before they are hatched." Obama is not "vindicated" until Lybia is established with a stable government, whatever form that is. He is also not vindicated if the new Lybia is hostile to the United States and is another terrorist hot bed.
NATO is alreday trying to
Submitted by NC Cop on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 9:32am.
NATO is alreday trying to backtrack from their role in this assassination:
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/10/21/libyans-qaddafi-to-be-buried-in-...
"NATO acknowledged Friday that its aircraft struck pro-Qaddafi military vehicles but were unaware that the ousted Libyan leader was in the convoy.
NATO said that the 11 military vehicles targeted were among a heavily-armed convoy of 75 vehicles transporting Muammar Qaddafi away from Sirte "at high speed" at around 8:30 a.m. local time Thursday."
"At the time of the strike, NATO did not know that Qaddafi was in the convoy," the statement said. "NATO's intervention was conducted solely to reduce the threat towards the civilian population, as required to do under our UN mandate. As a matter of policy, NATO does not target individuals."
So they were protecting the civilian population by attacking a military convoy speeding AWAY from Sirte?
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
To put it simply
Submitted by jon_torlin on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 9:40am.
Let's use an analogy to describe this. NATO did this in the same way that you take a guy with a gun, have him wear a blindfold, spin him around a couple of times, and then tell him to fire once in a crowd of 100 people, one of them being Kadaffi, and he gets it right without killing the wrong person.
That's how I see this.
The idea that they would order a strike like this on the hopes of being real lucky......no way.
-Jon
Let the MSM dream
Submitted by Marsh on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 9:33am.
that Obama's foreign policy will matter come election time.
As Georgie S. knows so well, ''It's the economy stupid".
The only area Obama has had
Submitted by celator on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 9:46am.
The only area Obama has had any success whatsoever is where he has continued the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld policies, strategies and practices on the WOT--use of Predators, Special Ops. (though his ROE have been a scandal costing US lives). Every other area--domestic policies, international relations, the economy, relations with Congress, etc., has been an unmitigated catastrophe.
Gee it's too bad Obama
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 10:31am.
didn't have an opportunity to take some of the blood pouring out of Kadafi's head and smear it on his own face in triumph. What a joke. So he wants to own that they accidently hit vehicles taking him out of town and even further that they caught him shot him in both legs, bet the crap out of him and then shot him in the head.
His foreign policy: apologize to our enemies, disrespect our allies, and bomb everyone else. Now there's change we can believe in, right?!
Yup that swagger is in full swing now. What a man! What a leader!
ODS
Submitted by PaleHorse on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 10:35am.
The ODS runs thick in this thread. Granted Obama's failed in many ways as our president, but are people really so anti-Obama that they can't even give him credit for killing Qaddafi, Osama, stopping numerous terrorist attacks on our soil, and systematically wiping out an entire generation of Al Qaeda?
Hate him all you want, but he's been on point when it comes to fighting terror.
Lord of the Fly is coasting off technology that President Bush
Submitted by upcountrywater on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 10:56am.
had the vision to, integrate into the US Military.
So Libya, Syria and Egypt are going to magically become Democracies and become peaceful and loving places.
Dream on Pale, kill 3 bad guys and let 3 countries fall into barbarism.
You Didn't Build That.
upcountry, I don't disagree
Submitted by PaleHorse on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 3:12pm.
upcountry, I don't disagree that Bush laid the groundwork. However, I fail to see how that diminishes Obama's accomplishments. Please keep in mind that Bush also got us mired in two unnecessary wars while spending boatloads of cash that we could really use now.
Good evening PaleHorse
Submitted by cocodrie on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 4:06pm.
It is fitting that you selected DEATH as your name. Present Obabble that you defend is intentionally bringing death to America by his policies.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
Behold, a Palehorse . . .
Submitted by Free Stinker on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 10:57am.
. . . and the one that useth that name was dense . . .
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
The ODS runs thick in PaleHorse aka Leon.
Submitted by The Vet on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 12:16pm.
You strain PaleKnuckles, strain hard.
Please tell us, PaleHourse,
Submitted by NC Cop on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 12:30pm.
Please tell us, PaleHourse, how OBAMA killed Qaddafi. It was a NATO operation, not a U.S. one. The French and British were basically the ones who led this charge, so how does Obama get credit?
Osama is the same thing. The intelligence agency told Obama that they knew where Osama was. Obama didn't uncover his whereabouts. U.S. Intelligence personnel did. Sending in the SEAL's was pretty much a given, considering what Osama was and what he did.
On point when fighting terror? Are you kidding me? By wiping out, instead of capturing, these idiots we are losing boatloads of valuable intelligence that I pray to God does not come back and bite us.
Stick to what you know........which apparently isn't much.
NC Cop, with regard to giving
Submitted by PaleHorse on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 3:11pm.
NC Cop, with regard to giving credit to Obama for victories abroad, he is the sitting President. Please don't pretend the same wouldn't have happened for Bush had he caught Osama.
I am not an Obama fan. Please allow me to clear that up. I think he has blown several clear opportunities to create jobs in this country which is all I really care about at this point. I don't care who the President is so long as I can make money. He hasn't helped me in that regard one bit.
That being said, I will say that the perception of Obama on Newsbusters is a clear sign of ODS. The regulars here literally treat him the same way shrieking liberals treated Bush during his term. It's fine to find flaws with his presidency, but the hate here is totally out of whack with reality.
My original point came about from an email that I read today on The Daily Dish. Not a huge fan of Sullivan, but his site is a great aggregater of news. Light years from Drudge in level of usefulness, but he still fits into my daily rotation. For those who hate Obama, dispute any of these points brought up by the reader. Give it a shot.:
"Personally, I am praying that Obama's messaging improves drastically. (It has failed on multiple occasions - not the least of which was during August/September of 2008.)
The truth is that this President has done a good job in what has been one of the most difficult periods of modern history. He saved the economy from ruin (until the Tea Party took over Congress) with a stimulus that was as large as possible given the political realities, presided over a stock market that fairly quickly recouped many of its losses, presided over almost consecutive monthly increases in private sector job growth (unfortunately balanced by monthly decreases in public sector jobs which I attribute to the GOP further starving government), enacted the only meaningful healthcare reform ever in our history, passed financial reform (no matter what the Left says, he did this), saved the auto industry (which Romney is on record opposing), fired the first salvo of the Arab Spring with his address in Cairo no less, drawn down our footprint in Iraq in a responsible way (and headed toward almost total withdrawal), stopped numerous terrorist attacks in this country, stopped torture as policy, repealed DADT, joined the international community in a measured and responsible way to bring down an odious tyrant in Qaddafi, and killed a whole generation of al Qaeda leaders. And taking out Osama bin Laden the way he did will go down as one of the bravest military actions in American history.
I know this President is not popular, and it is very unpopular to defend him in such a way. I don't care. For this country to dump him for anyone on the other side would be a terrible thing. Progress is slow and painful, but we are doing it. Is that fashionable to say? No. Again, I don't care."
http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/10/the-untold-story-of-the-...
I don't think you can challenge these points. No amount of ODS can change the reality.
Not ODS, REALITY!
Submitted by jon_torlin on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 3:56pm.
I'll let others take this on as they see fit, but one of the things I take exception to is your false statement of him stopping numerous terrorist attacks in this country.
HE DID NO SUCH THING! Some examples:
Ft. Hood: terrorist attack by Muslim Major.
Christmas Bomber: Terrorist attack on plane en route to Detroit by Muslim
NY Times Square bombing: terrorist attack in NY in an SUV
Seattle Christmas Tree Lighting Bombing: terrorist attack by Muslim teenager.
They were all successful, just that the tree lighting was allowed to happen by letting the guy think he got working parts to a bomb and tried to detonate it. The attack on the plane to detroit was a failure, but it was still attempted. The Times Square was a failure due to a clock setting and alert people, but it was still attemped.
Don't you DARE lie and say he stopped numerous attacks. And how did the gov't respond about these? "Oh the system works!"(in the case of the plane)
-Jon
PaleHorse:
Submitted by NC Cop on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 4:08pm.
"NC Cop, with regard to giving credit to Obama for victories abroad, he is the sitting President. Please don't pretend the same wouldn't have happened for Bush had he caught Osama."
I'm aware of who is president, my question to you was how does Obama get credit for a NATO English/French led operation?
"I am not an Obama fan."
Walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, know what I mean?
"That being said, I will say that the perception of Obama on Newsbusters is a clear sign of ODS."
Hardly. Holding the president responsible for his decisions, or lack therof, is not ODS, it's called accountability. Learn the difference.
"For those who hate Obama, dispute any of these points brought up by the reader. Give it a shot.:"
Gladly.
"He saved the economy from ruin (until the Tea Party took over Congress) with a stimulus that was as large as possible given the political realities"
Absolutely ridiculous. We spent almost $1 trillion and got NOTHING for it. A stimulus is not designed to keep things from getting worse, it's designed to STIMULATE or GROW. The stimulus was the biggest waste of money in U.S. history.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/09/23/the_failure_of_obam...
http://www.mrc.org/bmi/biasbythenumbers/2011/Stimulus_Two_Years_Later_Ne...
"Just a few years ago, double-digit unemployment seemed like a crazy idea. But when the economy began to stumble, it was fear of high unemployment and a promise to prevent it that the Obama administration used to usher in the $787 billion stimulus package. As The New York Times reported on Oct. 22, 2009, "The Obama administration's forecast at the start of the year, which predicted that unemployment would not climb much above 8 percent. Unemployment still exceeds the Obama-guaranteed 8 percent unemployment rate two years after the bill's passage. "
Pretty straightforward there. FAIL.
"presided over a stock market that fairly quickly recouped many of its losses,"
Wasn't that due to the bailouts that Bush started that so many on the left are cursing?? That stock market?? FAIL.
"presided over almost consecutive monthly increases in private sector job growth (unfortunately balanced by monthly decreases in public sector jobs which I attribute to the GOP further starving government"
You're SERIOUSLY going to use this guy as a source after this statement and THEN claim you're not an Obama fan?!?!?! LOL!!!!! FAIL.
"enacted the only meaningful healthcare reform ever in our history"
The health care reform that the majority of Americans didn't want, is illegal, and is likely to get shredded due to it's legal implications? That one? FAIL.
"saved the auto industry "
Laughable: http://blacksheepreport.com/barack-obama-boasts-about-auto-bailouts-desp...
"The idea of a saved job is a myth (especially a subsidized job). Even if it wasn’t the one million jobs would only be part of the story. The other part is about the incredible job losses. The other part is about the poor performance of GM. The other part would be about the success of Ford, who refused bailout money." FAIL.
"fired the first salvo of the Arab Spring with his address in Cairo no less"
So, Obama was responsible for the Arab Spring??? LOL!!!! Glad to hear Sullivan say that, though, so we know who is responsible for the Muslim Brotherhood taking over in Egypt. Priceless!!! FAIL.
"drawn down our footprint in Iraq in a responsible way (and headed toward almost total withdrawal),"
Responisbly remains to be seen, however, it is much easier to do when you were handed a gift wrapped victory that he INHERITED. Let's not forget who opposed the troop surge that gave him that victory, Obama himself. FAIL.
"stopped torture as policy"
We never did torture, so I don't know how he's giving him a victory for that. Obama colored glasses, I guess...... FAIL.
"repealed DADT"
Pure window dressing. Repealing DADT hasn't helped the economy, hasn't stopped Iran's march toward nuclear weapons, but it does give people like Sullivan a reason to claim a "victory" for Obama. FAIL.
"joined the international community in a measured and responsible way to bring down an odious tyrant in Qaddafi"
Ah, I see. So a coalition of over 30 countries doesn't count, but NATO does. Got it. Overthrowing a tyrant when Bush is in power. Bad. Overthrowing a tyrant when Obama is in power. Good. Your logic is flawless!!! FAIL.
"And taking out Osama bin Laden the way he did will go down as one of the bravest military actions in American history."
No, the SEAL's who took out Osama will go down in history as one of the bravest military actions, not Obama. Obama didn't have much of a choice, did he? If the people had learned that he had a shot at him and did not take it, what would they think? Obama was purely thinking about Obama when he made that decision, that's why it took him 16 hours. FAIL.
Your arguments are weak, flawed, biased and easily refuted.
Andrew Sullivan? Really?
Excellent NC Cop. You are not
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 4:15pm.
Excellent NC Cop. You are not beating a PaleHorse in this comment, you were FLOGGING him. :-)
Odumbo's time in office is an absolute failure and this jackass is using a leftist rag to defend him and then goes to say he's not an Obama fan? You can scream and shout and deny it all you want PH, but this posting classifies you as a libturd troll.
NC Cop---
Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 8:19pm.
You absolutely devastated the Pale Horse line of bullsh*t relating to Obama and his accomplishments.
You flat kicked that liberal horse's ass's ASS.
And you did so without cursing.
Exceptional job, indeed.
MD