Nets Champion Wisconsin Public Employees ‘Rising Up’ in ‘Mutiny’ Against ‘Extreme Cuts’
ABC on Thursday night championed a “mutiny in America” by public employees in Wisconsin whom NBC’s Brian Williams trumpeted for “rising up and saying no to some of the most extreme cuts in the nation.” ABC’s Diane Sawyer teased: “Tonight on World News, a mutiny in America. Public workers take to the streets as governors try to cut their pay and perks.” Sawyer framed coverage from the grievance of the unionized workers:
Today, we saw America's money trouble meet a reality, a human reality, as teachers, nurses, tens of thousands of state workers took to the streets in this country protesting cuts by the governors, saying to these governors, a promise is a promise. One lawmaker looked out at the crowds gathered in the Wisconsin capital today said it's like Cairo moved to Madison. [Audio available here]
NBC’s Williams also offered a comparison to “citizen uprisings” overseas: “Tonight after watching citizen uprisings now across the globe for weeks, how about a big one here in the United States.”
Though Governor Scott Walker is merely asking the coddled workers for a slight increase, from six to twelve percent, in the portion of the generous health coverage they must pay, ABC reporter Chris Bury painted it as a dire burden, citing how Walker is “demanding that public employees pay more for their pensions and health care, the equivalent of a seven percent pay cut,” adding that “what really upsets state workers is a budget that strips away nearly all of their union bargaining rights over health care, pensions, and work rules.”
Williams introduced the NBC Nightly News story by putting the workers into a heroic stance:
Tonight after watching citizen uprisings now across the globe for weeks, how about a big one here in the United States. In Wisconsin, where the state is broke and where the governor is proposing drastic cuts he says will save billions of dollars. NBC's Kerry Sanders reports tonight on the workers who are rising up and saying no to some of the most extreme cuts in the nation.
From the Thursday, February 17 ABC World News, transcript provided by the MRC’s Brad Wilmouth who corrected the closed-captioning against the video:
DIANE SAWYER: Good evening. Today, we saw America's money trouble meet a reality, a human reality, as teachers, nurses, tens of thousands of state workers took to the streets in this country protesting cuts by the governors, saying to these governors, a promise is a promise. One lawmaker looked out at the crowds gathered in the Wisconsin capital today said it's like Cairo moved to Madison. And Chris Bury was right in the middle of it all. Chris?
CHRIS BURY: Good evening, Diane. For the third straight day, thousands of state workers and their supporters have swarmed the state capital, some even picketing legislators at their homes, upset at state budget cuts and what they see as an assault on their union rights. Today, the capitol rotunda was packed top to bottom, thousands of teachers, nurses, state employees of all kinds, mostly peaceful, a handful of arrests, workers claiming the governor is balancing the budget on their backs. Is there a lot of anger here in Wisconsin?
UNIDENTIFIED MAN: Yes, we’re very upset.
UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN #1: I think it’s frustration more than anger that he’s not listening to our voices.
BURY: So many teachers are here that Madison's schools closed for the second straight day, the protesters raging at the governor’s plan to rein in a $3.6 billion budget deficit, demanding that public employees pay more for their pensions and health care, the equivalent of a seven percent pay cut. For an average worker making $48,000 a year, that's a $3,300 hit. Governor Scott Walker in office only six weeks told me he has no choice. Why is this so necessary?
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GOVERNOR SCOTT WALKER (R-WI): Well, for us, we're broke just like nearly every state across the country.
BURY: Just as Republicans prepared to pass the bill, key Democrats left the state to stall the vote. Capitol police were looking for them.
MARK MILLER, WISCONSIN STATE SENATE DEMOCRATIC LEADER: We hope that we’re in a place that's hard for them to find.
BURY: What really upsets state workers is a budget that strips away nearly all of their union bargaining rights over health care, pensions, and work rules. Any wage increase beyond cost of living would require a state referendum. They blame the governor. Do you think he's trying to bust the union?
UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN #2: Of course he’s going to.
UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN #1 By taking away our right to bargain as teachers I don’t think is solving the budget in any way.
BURY: Are you trying to bust the union?
WALKER: No. Bottom line, trying to balance the budget.
BURY: The governor says if the law doesn't pass, 10,000 public employees will be laid off. Tonight, the Democrats are still AWOL, and the governor is threatening to call out the National Guard if essential state employees walk off the job. Diane?
SAWYER: Well, Chris, as we can see behind you, no sign they're going home soon. Thank you.
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Useless UNIONS!!..
Submitted by gfrrman on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 3:33am.
......this just goes to show that, as usual with libs/unions/dems...they care not one wit FIRST and FOREMOST about the children's education....UNION/PARTY 1ST!!!!.....alllll others??????????? n'yeeet!!.
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Remember what they said about the tea party's?
Submitted by wedapeople on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 11:58am.
The free lunch is over.
If these bloodsucking maggots want to feed and The Messiah wants to host, let them suckle up to the teat of The Bama.
The taxpayer funded dinner party is over.
As someone once (kinda) said:
.... And three people do it, three, can you imagine, three people walking in
singin a bar of "I'm tired of paying my neighbors pension, while he sit in front of his TV",
They may think it's an organization. And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day,I said
fifty people a day walking in singin a bar of I'm tired of paying my neighbors pension, while he sit in front of his TV" and walking out. And friends they may thinks it's a movement.
And that's what it is , the I'm tired of paying my neighbors pension, while he sit in front of his TV" Anti-Massacre Movement, and all you got to do to join is sing it the next time it come's around on the guitar. With feeling.
ABC, NBC etc, Useful In Creation of Chaos
Submitted by Boil It Down on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 5:18am.
How proud of their "reporting" will they be when they successfully help turn America into Greece? It's absolutely shameless. Is there any conscience among them?
Yes there are many 'useful idiots' at the networks. It's maddening that there isn't a better balance of media on the side of the majority of people of the United States that don't live in the liberal bubble. 80% of the media in the hands of 20% of the opinion with no regard for objective and truthful reporting is extremely unbalanced and destructive.
As for the unions and politicians, I am appalled that we keep increasing the taxpayer money that is stuffed into this rat-hole they call public education. It isn't functional and the more money that goes in the worse the results. How does that make sense? The real solution for the students, the unions and the economy is to dismantle public education entirely. But, the MSM wants to force the issue against common sense.
ABC, NBC, CBS and CNN are doomed
Submitted by libBuster on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 8:38am.
The viewship of "Big Three" network evening news broadcasts consists almost entirely a 55+ (more likely 65+) residual audience from the glory days. Each year they lose viewers. The days of these propagandists are numbered. As they fall, they go back to first principles: leftism.
Until they fall, their biased product is a bit gut wrenching to watch.. The Pravada like view of romantic union protestors comes only 8 months after the same networks falsely excoriated tea partiers for alleged "Hitler" comments and threatening a civil right leader. . These propagandists see no need to repeat their mid January 2011 lectures about civility or even mention the surfeit of HItler signs carried at the "protests" Concerns about civility are reserved for Sarah Palin. The temerity of these networks is so staggering one can conclude they are nothing more than mere propgandists. Truth, a sense of perspective and fairness mean nothing to them.
More and more people see through the Pravdist networks and their influence continues to wane. Irrelevency and failure await.
I agree - DEFUND the Dept of Education!!
Submitted by Cape Conservative on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 10:30pm.
The Dems will NEVER go along with that - after all, the public school system is prime hunting ground for their devious brainwashing of our children! If I were raising my children today, I'd be home-schooling them or they would be in a private school!
Giving parents a voucher to educate each child would be FAR more cost-effective than paying for early retirements and 12-month pay for 9 months of work!
The federal government should keep its nose out of the education of our children!!!!!
Americans are out of work and
Submitted by rbosque on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 4:11am.
Americans are out of work and those who do pay through the nose in taxes to over-inflate already generous union pensions. It is mutany but it is the American taxpayer that is revolting.
this time there is NO
Submitted by TruthMonger on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 12:04pm.
this time there is NO SYMPATHY FROM GULLIBLE AMERICANS - they are out of work and demand to see fat government employees share the load
Congratulations Jimmy Carter!
Rising up against... the
Submitted by Cowboy on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 5:43am.
Rising up against... the people.
The people who pay the bills in America... like these people's pay and 'perks'... are tired of being taken for granted.
Who do they serve?
Submitted by Franksam on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 7:58am.
These protesters don't serve the people. Sack the teachers and hand out vouchers. Even the pinko surrender monkeys in Madision might pick their kid's future over the fat pensions of public sector thugs.
Franksam,
Submitted by Ashrak on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 9:01am.
There was a union member on MSNBC last night claiming that the governor is "trying to turn them into servants". I am left to wonder if he will ever realize the idiocy of his statement. He IS a public servant. That is what you are when you work for government. If you don;t want to be a servant, then seek employment, or your own business, in the private sector!
Well if they play their cards
Submitted by Miss_Me_Yet on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 6:46am.
Well if they play their cards right the left wing MSM can go extinct, in the hearts and minds of the American people, at the exact same time as their fellow dinosaurs, right along with the equally corrupt, archaic public employee unions.
One can only hope.
Liberals ... we can't live with them, they couldn't survive without us ...
There is an EASY solution
Submitted by TheHistorian on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 6:50am.
Put a public performance tax on every network broadcast in Wisconsin, and use the proceeds to pay the shortfall in pension and medical benefits. Make it like an income tax, where a "performer", such as Katie Couric, pays a state tax because she appears on the televisions in the state. Exempt intra-state broadcasts.
I am sure that these network personalities would stand in line to pay a tax so that these poor people were not savaged by the nasty state in their benefits. Until you gore THEIR ox, the network nabobs will never get the message.
Dennis Prager
Good idea!
Submitted by OldJoe on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 7:28am.
I'm shocked and surprised they are not setting the example and writing checks to the treasury. just kidding.
It's a Bizarro world
Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 7:10am.
So protesting for fiscal responsibility, like the TEA party, is bad, but protesting for fiscal irresponsibility, like these unions, is good. The 'rich' should pay their 'fair share' in taxes, but the unions can't pay their 'fair share' in their benefits. How much more backwards could these people be?
DFTT... Yes.
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 9:00am.
Your comment gets to the heart of the matter...thanks.
Allow me to add the thought: "Teachers paying an additional 6% into their own pension/benefit fund (which they will get back) is somehow 'LOST WAGES,' but the Bush tax-cuts were somehow a tax increase on the poor... 'muddled thinking' doesn't even begin to describe it!
So the nets give unions better coverage than the Tea Party.....
Submitted by merly1 on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 9:42am.
I am shocked! :o0 Shocked! ;o)
Face it: the MSM is simply one political arm of the Democrat Party.
"Boycot"??
Submitted by ThisnThat on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 7:30am.
The AP reported yesterday that the dim legislators who went to Illinois to avoid voting, are "boycotting" the vote.
Boycott? How about "fled, as in cowardly"? A boycott is a refusal to buy, a refusal to participate. Yet the AP uses that term rather than "fled" to make it appear as a patriotic act.
BTW -- didn't the Milwaukee teachers sue last year when Viagra was threatened to be dropped from their health plans? They complained that not offering the drug violated the Wisconsin Fair Employment Act. And this is the standard against which the dim legislator's fled the state -- so they could preserve the right of unions to demand that taxpayers pay the full bill ($22,000) so they could pay nothing? Unbelievable. A full house cleaning is definitely in order, here.
__________
“Didn't win the Medal of Honor? Didn't even serve? Then lie about it. We'll support you." — 9th Circuit Court
The msm (most of them) are
Submitted by gopsteve on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 7:33am.
The msm (most of them) are either arrogant or dumb. Either way, they further marginalize themselves.
Do they think people forget how they demonized the tea partiers, now suddenly they love mass protests?
No blatant bias here...
You left out "Liars"
Submitted by Diesel on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 9:03am.
They are lying when they say that the new governor want's to "cut their pay", when all he want's is for the leaches to simply "contribute" to their OWN health insurance......you know.....LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE DOES.
I'm glad Brent watched and gave us a synopsis...
Submitted by OldJoe on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 7:30am.
I gave up on MSM TV a long time ago. Remember, the simple act of not watching Katie et. al. is to diminish them.
Again, I have to say I do not
Submitted by gopsteve on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 7:35am.
Again, I have to say I do not know how you NB folks keep yourselves sane having to watch all this msm liberal drivel day after day...I couldn't take it.
Not Surprising
Submitted by RobAtAmPre on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 7:37am.
that they ignore the fact that the Dem senators are committing a felony.
Someone refresh my memory...
Submitted by motherbelt on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 7:47am.
Wasn't some Democrat lawmaker(federal, not state) calling for exactly this kind of protest a few weeks ago?
What are the options? Raise
Submitted by nicksmith112 on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 8:20am.
What are the options? Raise taxes, everyone give back a little, or layoff 5,000 workers?
How does the left get away with blaming the wealthy and corporations for everything??
I'm a refugee from the Democratic Party.
they play their cards right -
Submitted by TruthMonger on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 12:09pm.
they play their cards right - like the class envy card - i wish conservatives power brokers could do the same or God forbid - a better job
Congratulations Jimmy Carter!
Just Wondering...
Submitted by Ashrak on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 8:56am.
Increased taxation is a "cut in pay". TEA partiers were clearly gathering to was clearly standing up to say "NO!".
So why the difference in coverage on the networks between the contesting participants?
Do none of these anchors, their producers ot the suits in the offices have enough sense to see that the coverage they are applying to this Wisconsin situation is going to be directly compared to the coverage of everything from the town hall meetings to TEA parties? Or how about the 9-12 gathering in Washington D.C.?
Are they so isolated in a protected bubble that they are totally oblivious to the hypocrisy being displayed here? Has their political ideology so blinded them that they do not see their own foolishness?
I guess they are trying to remove all doubt about the proposition that progressive ideology rules all television "news" presentation. It must be quite embarrassing to be a television "JournOlist" with such an obvious display of hypocrisy playing out.
Ash… No, I don’t believe they do!
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 9:16am.
I think the folks in the MSM only look at the moment and project the next few hours until ‘broadcast time.’ I seriously believe they could care less about history (even so far as yesterday) unless it serves the purpose of the story they are currently trying to pass-off on us. Now, don’t even get me started on their ‘long-term analysis’… it’s too frustrating to contemplate!
Increases
Submitted by Doktor Riktor V... on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 9:20am.
I am a former USPS worker who is on a pension. I paid into my pension, and also my health care via APWU. I still do and in fact recieved a nice letter from OPM at the end of last year that my contributions would now be higher. So be it. My union, of which I must maintain membership in order to qualify for health plan (which btw I like, can't complain as it works for me and is rather inexpensive compared to other plans), also sent me a letter saying it needed more in dues money thereby reducing my pension some more. I suspect it is to fill their coffers.
The late President Reagan fired FAA workers, back in the 80s, and we managed to survive. I guess they thought being federal workers they couldn't be replaced, bad move, and one that should not be lost on current AFL-CIO union bosses.However they seem to live in this "gimmie and share the wealth" world, yet refuse to share in the sacrifice.
Most of the protesters were with organizing against America
Submitted by Funbowhunter on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 9:21am.
And were bused in from out of state. As a Wisconsinite, I demand law enforcement arrest the lady teacher who brought her students without their parents permission. She kidnapped them, she needs to do the time.
Fire 'em all, I say.
Submitted by ThisnThat on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 10:12am.
I suspect this same teacher -- who is now showing all sorts of tolerance for breaking the law (i.e., skipping class), vulgar language, hatefilled rhetoric and displays (e.g., Hitler signs), and supporting harassment (i.e., a march to protest at the private homes of Republicans) -- this same teacher will go back to class one day and suspend a 7-year old student for pointing his finger at another student on the playground and saying "bang" as they play cowboys and indians. Or suspend a student for 1/2 year for throwing a spitball. Or for some other "violent and hatefull" act.
Hypocritcal doesn't even begin to describe these people. They all need to be fired, and replaced with common, everyday folk that are currently doing a great job at home schooling.
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“Didn't win the Medal of Honor? Didn't even serve? Then lie about it. We'll support you." — 9th Circuit Court
Did she really take her students there without parents'
Submitted by Lipton on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 11:48am.
position?
Was there an abortion clinic nearby? I am sure she can get out of any legal issues if she can just explain she was bringing them there to keep from punsihing them with a baby.
it was just a field trip you
Submitted by TruthMonger on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 12:16pm.
it was just a field trip you see
Congratulations Jimmy Carter!
'Now what?'
Submitted by Slyrr on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 9:31am.
This has Obama's fingerprints all over it. Obama is a community organizer. A professional mobster and rabble-rouser. I bet he couldn't wait to get his grubby mitts on some of this action. And with Obama commanding his vassals to 'argue and get in their face', and to 'bring a gun', I bet he'd be delighted if fights and voilence broke out.
Democrats have become ghouls who feast on human flesh and drink human blood in the form of media/politically crafted hysteria and mayhem.
My question to those who are involved in these protests: What is YOUR plan? At the end of the day, your states are still in the hole. You are OUT OF MONEY. You can't pay the bills for these people. You have to cut spending somewhere - either that or you're going to have to go full communist and take 100% of everything that everyone has. News flash: Even if you do, it won't be enough. If Communists ran the Sahara, they'd run out of sand.
I hope the GOP drags the Wisc. Dems back to the state kicking and screaming.
Then I hope the Dems get sent to a corner to sit on a stool wearing the DUNCE cap.
Special report on FOX News---
Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 8:08pm.
today stated the DNC has been involved for more than a few weeks now in setting up for the demonstrations in Madison. Which part, not surprisingly, the DNC is heavily downplaying. You damn right Obama is the wizard behind the curtain on this.And he will lose
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 8:20pm.
There are still more private sector taxpayers than there are government leeches.
The private sector recognizes that they're paying for a lot more benefits than they get themselves.
A few tidbits to enhance the conversation:
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 9:50am.
“In Wisconsin, teaching salaries averaged $52,644 in 2009-10, according to the National Education Association, with most school districts offering benefits that range from health insurance to retirement plans.” Source: http://www.teacher-world.com/teacher-salary/wisconsin.html
And here are some Wisconsin pay rates for other occupations:
Retail Store Manager - $37,711
General / Operations Manager - $55,617
Registered Nurse (RN) - $50,316
Project Manager, Information Technology (IT) - $70,194
Mechanical Engineer - $58,190
Human Resources (HR) Manager - $53,941
Source: http://www.payscale.com/research/US/State=Wisconsin/Salary
GiA,
Submitted by Dave. on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 1:15pm.
I sense the next bunch to riot will be the retail store managers.
:-^)
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Grumpy: Those are salaries
Submitted by stratman on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 11:39pm.
Grumpy:
Those are salaries only and do not include benefits and extended vacations (in which some will have summer part-time jobs to supplement income).
If we value education for our children, who will one day be taking care of us, then we need to value their teachers. Good teachers are worth good money. Its the rest that the unions unfortunately prop up to the detriment of the profession and the educational system.
At some point, taxpayers will only pony up so much for everything they are asked to hand over, especially when the public employee receives more in total compensation than the mirror private business worker. The days of the Liberal policy of "smoke 'em if ya got 'em and smoke someone else's if ya don't" are increasingly growing short. Eventually no one will have smokes and there won't be enough income to redistribute to pay off our debt.
The days of hard choices are upon us.
what these Idiot Unions fail
Submitted by dirtydan64 on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 9:56am.
To understand is the State is their employer and and their not taking a pay cut by any stretch of the imagination, their simp,y paying for their HC they receive not use thenTax Payers, and when it comes to their Pensions it's their money going into their Pension fund, therefore why should we as Tax Payers continue to pay for theirs when we can't all continue to pay for ours with our own money because we've had to make the cuts and not have this or that when they've enjoyed years & decades of not Aging anything into anyone of what they receive and now to pay a total of 18% into what they receive big F#%^ ^ing whop !!!! as far as their collective bargaining goes, there not losing anything but the right to dictate to the state as to what Tax Payers are going to give these selfish employees and will have only bargaining power on wages and those will be limited to and. Extent of what the cost of living might be. If I was the Governor Walker from my home state I'd probably have fired every teacher at the Capitol and would have fired the entire City of Milwaukee Teachers today for shutting down schools so we can pay teachers to go to Madison to protest when the parents of these students have to either take off work or find alternative daycare, sitters for those kids whose teacher is in Madison today. No different than Kalifornia firing 5,000 Teachers this year and they should get what they have coming a good old fashioned firing !!!!! but the one issue that is really burning the Asses of Union Leaders is the fact Governor Walker is not allowing Union Dues to be deducted from Union Employees once this budget is passed and will at their own beheast will in the future have to write a check out to their Union's to pay their dues if that is they wish to continue to still be a member. But if a employee decides not to still be a card carrying member they still of course receive all the same benefits as paying embers and that my friends is going to put the big hurt on the Wisconsin Union as will every other State looking to do the something, Thank Goodness this will spread like wild fire, as it rightfully should !!!!If these greedy fools ....
Submitted by NL207 on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 10:01am.
truly believe they are being abused, they are free to seek employment elsewhere, like the private sector.
Whta is that? You mean these ample salaries and cushy benefits are noty available to private sector workers with similar skills? Say it isn't so!
→ It is so!
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 10:04am.
Them that can't . . . teach.
they're all for shared
Submitted by astonrickenbach on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 10:11am.
they're all for shared sacrifice as long as it is the tax payers doing the sacrifice. Can't really blame them though who wants to see there income decreased?
That being said I guess they'll just have to get a part-time job over that 3 months of summer.
What needs to be done
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 10:06am.
is the teachers that called in sick and then went to a protest should be fired or at the very least docked every day's pay that they pull this (I prefer that they be fired).
And as to the democratic senators that ran out of state to avoid voting, they need to be docked for the days missed and fined.
Additionally the governor should impose some emergency change measures to allow the vote to take place with as many voters as their senate has.
Unfortunately
Submitted by astonrickenbach on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 10:08am.
Unfortunately they probably can't do that since they are contractually entitled to the sick days. The state would be violating the contract and who knows what the repercussions would be.
They are entitled to the sick
Submitted by bassndude on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 10:51am.
They are entitled to the sick day, but calling in sick when you are not, the case can be made for fraud. There is also an abuse clause in the contract some where, I am sure.
If the Governer just fired all the teachers that called in, then he would be on fairly solid ground. He needs to hire a few non union goons to go find the minority leader and march him back to the house, tied and gaged if thats what it takes. Tie him to his chair, and the republicans can hold the vote.
This is just a case of Democrats and Unions trying to over turn the election results. Stinking cowards, everyone of them.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal/troll!!
The "sick days" are more than
Submitted by IgnatzJFahrquar on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 12:09pm.
The "sick days" are more than likely actually named "personal days". The Unions took care of that litlle "loop hole" a while back. Heck, at my current private sector job they are called personal days, too.
Well, the way I figure it, every day off now eats into the Summer. State laws require X amount of days for a school year to count.
College bound students plus those hoping for a nice Summer job are going to love those extra days.
Although the schools have a
Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 11:49pm.
Although the schools have a required number of days, they can also suspend those requirements. Usually this is done in cases of natural disasters, but I have a feeling in this case the unions will make such a stink they won't be making up these days.
I think you will see alot more of this....
Submitted by astonrickenbach on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 10:06am.
as the reality of decades of living high on the hog and now tough choices need to be made. Everyone is for cutting fat and trimming the budget until it is something that affects them.
Kind of like the jet engine the DOD didn't want. Dems and Republicans were united along geographical lines. If they built part of the engine in your state you wanted the program to continue. If they didn't build any of it in your state you wanted to cut it.
You're going to see alot more of this in the next few years, especially on the local level as all states deal with the massive pension/union issue.
we have the upper hand -
Submitted by TruthMonger on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 12:20pm.
we have the upper hand - there is no money - even borrowed from our kids
Congratulations Jimmy Carter!
It's kind of hard to believe
Submitted by Free Thinker on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 10:14am.
It's kind of hard to believe the msm is totally missing the boat, I mean for their own survival. These protesters that suddenly find themselves out of other people's money are the minority. The leftist media is either so blinded by their ideaology that they fail to see the real revolt occuring from society's productive members or they are willfully spinning the story to protect leftist interests. Neither bodes well for the msm that is quickly becoming less and less relevant by the day.
I asked this question yesterday, but it's worth asking again...
Submitted by Dave. on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 10:39am.
Why would any parent who truly loves their children pack them off day after day to these idiot teacher's goonion members to be "educated?"
Seriously, I just don't get it.
These morons only care about early retirement and padding their already bloated pensions, and apparently are of the belief that we taxpayers exist solely to support them in every area.
Screw them.
Fire them all.
Then find some people who haven't been indoctrinated and actually care about educating children.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
→ Well, Dave
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 10:43am.
The plain and simple answer is that most people cannot afford paying both public and private education costs.
If vouchers are ever freed up, I imagine a serious exodus from Cripple Creek Public School System.
Parents are in denial.
Submitted by motherbelt on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 12:07pm.
Cool and Dave....most parents think the state of public schools is deplorable, but think that their own kids' school is OK.
They are in denial.
They have to be; they wouldn't be able to live with themselves otherwise.
As for the costs: yes that's true for some. But some have put the house they buy and the cars they drive before where they send their kids to school.
If your first consideration is where you send your kids to school, you make your other decisions accordingly, in order to meet that expense.
It's that simple.
We did without a lot of things when my daughter was young, in order to keep her in a parochial school.
in large cities (where libs
Submitted by TruthMonger on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 12:23pm.
in large cities (where libs cluster for their own survival) the parents actually do want these kids indoctrinated this way
Congratulations Jimmy Carter!
mb,
Submitted by Dave. on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 1:13pm.
Yeah, it's just like people view their congress critter - theirs is okay.
It's everyone else's that is screwing up the country.
And we, too, went without a lot of things in order for me and my two siblings to attend private school.
It's hard to do, but it's not impossible.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Cool Arrow,
Submitted by Ashrak on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 12:16pm.
The economics you mention is a huge part of it. Another part of it rests in exposing our children to the garbage and then explaining why this, that and the other are garbage. I find it quite useful in teaching my kids how to think - as the attempt to teach them what to think transpires.
My eight grader is Constitution class right now (with his trusty pocket Constitution in hand) and a bunch of his friends have said that my boy is among only three who even talks, participates, in class. It pains me to hear that, but it makes me proud at the same time. My kids knows the score and others are learning it because of him. That is a good thing. One thing is for sure, his teacher knows he had better keep it real. Which leads into the other part of it.
Keeping the schoolteachers honest can only be done from within by parents of children attending. It is the only way to know what is going on. Luckily for me, I live rural so my kids schools are relatively good on most issues. I feel for "urban" parents subjected to a great deal of idiocy I am able to avert. But then, that is exactly why I moved out of the "urban" jungle to raise my kids.
However, we did have a go around when the principle instituted PBIS. They actually had the kids walking down the halls with theirhands behind their backs like criminals! Interestingly, that when my kids simply refused, after discussions at home of course, they went unpunished. All but a few walk with their hands at their sides today. Imagine that.
I tried an experiement this year. I refused to sign their handbook over objections to what it contains. No consequences for it and they decided that forcing the issue wasn;t such a good idea. Schools, because of teachers' unions are getting away with what they are because people think they just cannot stand up to them. And that is where the ttrouble brews. I respect those who homeschool and have contemplated deeply along the same lines as what Dave is alking about. For now, partly because of the fact I do pay property tax but also for the thinking aspect and keeping them honest, (and I cannot forget my kids in sports) My kids remain in public school for now. I have the super on speeddial and the boardmembers know exactly who I am.
I submit that this - standing up to them- is the path to resolving many of the problems in the public schools system
Ashrak
Submitted by stratman on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 11:42pm.
Consider yourself fortunate your children's school has a Constitution class. Not every school does.
Ashrak
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 02/20/2011 - 1:11am.
There's a nifty thing called the Tim Tebow Law (woot!).
Home schooled children must be allowed to participate in public school sports.
I don't know where you live, this legislation was originally passed in Florida, but it has, more or less, swept the land.
Check it out, you may be pleasantly surprised. And a hug to your young constitutional scholar. May he instruct his friends well.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
USEFUL IDIOTS
Submitted by notinstl on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 10:43am.
Only a liberal would dare to compare requiring an individual to step up to the responsibility of their own welfare to suffering under the thumb of a dictator. The liberals, and especially the teachers in WI., do a tremendous disservice to those in Egypt that actually had their lives and freedom on the line. Those some two groups also show their contempt for their neighbors/taxpayers.
this is the severely
Submitted by TruthMonger on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 12:25pm.
this is the severely entrenched entitlement mentality and its going to be a bitch to deal with for a long long time...
Congratulations Jimmy Carter!
Helping the President and
Submitted by jdawg2009 on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 12:27pm.
Helping the President and Organizing for America foment progressive revolution in America. Wonderful.
http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-spokane/is-the-president-responsible-for-threats-and-violence-wisconsin
The Unbearable Lightness of Being... (a liberal)
Submitted by motherbelt on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 12:46pm.
Sister Toldja has an article up :
Wisconsin New Tone Watch: The Beat Goes On
with links to pictures (including the de rigueur Hitler shots) @ Doug Ross and Ann Althouse.
She nails it:
Where’s the media outrage? Where are Bill Maher and Jon Stewart issuing strong denunciations?
How about Where are the Democrats issuing strong denunciations???
Even the president ignores the hateful rhetoric
The Great Uniter (not)
Submitted by stratman on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 11:50pm.
Obama ignoring it? No. Obama's up to his eyeballs in flamethrowing per usual - "... an assault on unions..."
You should had heard Levin tonight
Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 11:58pm.
Close,
Levin's My Fav Radio Guy
Submitted by stratman on Sat, 02/19/2011 - 5:34am.
Thanks for the compliment, Boudin.
I usually download his mp3's from his website and listen to them within a day or two after broadcast.
The past couple of weeks I have surprised myself in how close some of my NB comments have been to what I heard later on Levin's show.
Great minds think alike. Thank me for your post! ;-)
(that's something Levin might say.)
strat...Did you catch this quote from your favorite potential
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 02/20/2011 - 12:26am.
prez candidate:
http://We pay the bills!" tea party favorite Herman Cain yelled to cheers from the pro-Walker crowd. "This is why you elected Scott Walker, and he's doing his job. ... Wisconsin is broke. My question for the other side is, `What part of broke don't you understand?'"
Ran across it in a HuffPo piece. Thought you might enjoy it.
Jer
Thanks, Jer. I hadn't seen
Submitted by stratman on Sun, 02/20/2011 - 12:49am.
Thanks, Jer. I hadn't seen that yet.
You know I love Herman Cain. I have a lot to learn about his political positions and see him perform under the duress of debates and an arduous campaign, but I do wish him to succeed and exceed. He seems like an excellent man and leader so far.
That said, and you might be surprised, I hope Cain didn't interlope himself over to Madison on his own for a little Media face time like that jackass Jesse Jackson. If Cain was alerady scheduled to be in the area, OK. If the Tea Party specifically invited him, or some other group, OK.
Other than this potential criticism, and I doubt it will be true, Herman is THE MAN!!
Fire Them All
Submitted by Harley2002 on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 1:41pm.
Fire them ALL. I know teachers looking for work. I am looking for work. Do a Reagan on them out the door you ungrateful lazy union bums. See what it is like to lose your savings and your house. We pay YOU work or get fired.
As Governor Walker has said repeatedly - he IS doing
Submitted by Cape Conservative on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 10:46pm.
what the millions of Wisconsin voters elected him to do!!!! So, either they get back to work or they find the school locks changed and someone new sitting at their desks!
In these tough economic times, it is their EXTREME selfishness that offends the hard-working taxpayers and those who would like to be hard-working once again!!!
FIRE THEM ALL - and as we used to say as children, "GOOD RIDDANCE TO BAD RUBBISH!"
The Teachers are using sick time
Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 11:00pm.
If they call it a strike, then they may well be fired. Yea, I know it's against Union rules, but what ya gonna do?